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[QUOTE=Gangles; 1259713]. .

For some years, I have been sponsoring a young woman through her degree, and she is about to graduate with a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management.

. .[/QUOTE]Along with several thousand other graduates in HRM Gangles. I hope your investment is worth it for her, as there are very few jobs available in hospitality any more and many of the courses are "mickey mouse" too (with a curriculum that includes how to set cutlery up on tables and how to fold table napkins. The stuff of a 3-day Techvoc course).

A few years ago all the jobs were in "Graphic Arts", then it was "Nursing" and now they all want to do HRM.

I spoke to the sales manager in Waterfront in Cebu a few months back and she said they had to stop applicants coming in with resumes. They were getting 20 per day coming in looking for work and they had no jobs for them. She also said most of them needed retraining anyway after graduation, and she was disgusted at the low quality of these courses which seemed to be uncontrolled and non-accredited.

I think your motive is admirable but you need to do exceptional due diligence on both the reputation of the proposed College / University and, more importantly, the quality of the training. A quick check of the required reading for the program may well shock you.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1260047]stop applicants coming in with resumes. They were getting 20 per day coming in looking for work and they had no jobs for them.[/QUOTE]<<a sales manager in Waterfront in Cebu? A what?

Can't find a Starbucks in Bahrain / Kuwait / Qatar / UAE without a pinay behind the counter. Market sorts its way out, one way or another

[QUOTE=Slippery;1259991]Why don't you tell us where you're leaving from and perhaps we might be able to put your information in perspective. Geeeeeeeeesssssshhhhhh.[/QUOTE]To Slippery.

If you read careful he said US that is not a bad price most airline just raise price last week by 60 USD because of high fuel tax, Cathay Pacific is about 1040 USD SFO to Manila with stop over in HKG for end of May and June to end of Aug jump to 1350 high season.

Fast Eddie 48

Sometimes I wonder about the twisted mentality of guys like TW.

For my present student, I think that I might have sexed her 3 or 4 times over the past 3 years. And each time at her behest. I think that she had the notion that she should repay somehow or other. At each of our meetings, the first order of business was money. She provided receipts for every item of expenditure. Second order of business was grades. She produced reports for grades for each semester. She is a pretty good student. Third order of business was future intentions, eg summer school, choice of subjects etc.

Then occasionally, she would make it clear that she was looking for sex. Maybe I was her only guy, I never asked if she had a regular bf. Certainly, she did not get pregnant, so that is an indicator.

My concern recently has been exactly the point that RK raised, that is, huge numbers of students, and relatively trivial standard of skills of the graduates.

I managed a project some years ago to improve the quality of outcomes of degree courses in geodetic engineering (surveying) in the Phils. We found colleges offering the course which had zero books in their library, and effectively zero equipment. Failure rates at the PRC boards was high. Some schools, like UP and Ateneo, offered high quality courses, and the results at the boards was about 90% or more.

We rebuilt the curriculum, so that graduating surveyors had the necessary skills to be able to effectively input data into the national land titling system. Plus engineering and topographical surveying as well. The curriculum was based on competency standards, which the team developed jointly. Three universities in Leyte took up the new curriculum, and their pass rates at the boards are now 95% plus. A great result.

So I have some understanding of the effectiveness of the tertiary education system here. Fortunately, the pass rates for every course, and every college are public information, so it is not too hard to decide which colleges will provide good value for the money.

So much for TW's inane comment.

G.

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1259975]So I'm guessing your fucking these studious young women as well?[/QUOTE]

So Red Kilt, what would you suggest then as a course of study? Given the dearth of jobs would a girl to studying Business with an eye to starting a small business of her own be a worthwhile alternative?

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1259713]I have a policy of returning some of the money that I have earned in the Philippines. I do not do this by giving money away, but rather I invest in the country through education and training.

For some years, I have been sponsoring a young woman through her degree, and she is about to graduate with a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management.

So I am looking for another pinay to sponsor. However, this time I want to sponsor someone in a degree that adds to the expertise of the country, probably in science, engineering, architecture etc.

The last pinay I found by chance. The next one, I will have to find.

So I am asking for ideas on how I can connect with a pinay who wants to study these subjects, and who is looking for sponsorship.

Any Ideas?

G[/QUOTE]I have somewhat a simular policy although my aim is to help them get out. I actually push them to study a language as well as a course for which there is demand in Singapore or HK. I find it far more beneficial for both that way.

AS RK suggested HRM is a mickey mouse course and it will be hard to get a job as there is thousands of graduates. Simular to the waterfront, ABC in AC whenever they advertise on FB they get 1000s of CVs. I have seen some and I can tell you now the biggest difference you can make in that persons life is actually helping her do a proper CV.

As for how to go about finding a suitable student I guess you can always talk to a uni to set up a scholarship scheeme or if you prefer hunting then ask you current girl to get find someone already enrolled that might be interested.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1260096]Sometimes I wonder about the twisted mentality of guys like TW.

G.[/QUOTE]It was only a question not a comment. No need to be defensive.

[QUOTE=David_33;1260209]So Red Kilt, what would you suggest then as a course of study? Given the dearth of jobs would a girl to studying Business with an eye to starting a small business of her own be a worthwhile alternative?[/QUOTE]Isn't there a book about this. Everything I ever learned about making money. I learned [not at university]

I'm having one of those week sin which I have little faith in the Phils education system. If they can fix that, then the 1, 000s of unemployed applicants can start making a difference to the country.

For instance, if I had a Phils business graduate coming to me here in Australia, I'm not so excited. If I have a Malaysian or Singapore graduate, they are far more likely to be productive Day 1.

As part of a much larger project here, we run an internship program that places recent college graduates into 3-6 month internships with reasonably large corporations, most of them in Manila. Most of the kids completing their internships are offered jobs by their hosting companies. Based on this experience, it appears to me that the most difficult requests from companies for us to fill are for engineering and accounting graduates. Relative to HRM, these are relatively expensive courses here, much more demanding than HRM, and with much lighter enrollment, despite the fact that it's much easier to find a job as a graduate of either course. The gap between labor market demand in certain sectors, and the courses taken by college students is wide, and it's led me to the conclusion that most entering college students fail to consider the relationship between the course they've selected and the eventuality of landing a job.

Many of the deans to whom I've spoken about this issue tell me that most of their students selected courses of study based on economics; often choosing the less expensive courses at the urging of their parents, because those are the courses that the parents can more easily afford. The problem is further exacerbated by the so-called licensing exams-for engineering, accounting, teaching, and so on-which only a small minority of graduates actually pass. Whether than phenomonon is a result of poor education or a desire of the professional communities to restrict entry to the sector I don't know.

Education is one of the most widely subscribed, and one of the cheapest curricula at the undergraduate level here. Yet less than 40% of graduates pass the teaching exams, and the government hires less than 30, 000 new teachers a year, so the odds on a fresh graduate obtaining a teaching job are minimal and in fact many try to get work in call centers. However, an estimate 90-95% of call center applicants fail the English tests administered by these centers, and the colleges apparently never think to offer mandatory courses in spoken English, so this avenue of potential employment turns out to be less an avenue than a narrow alley.

Given this situation, if you want to provide advice and support to college students, I'd suggest you advice them to take more technical degrees-in Engineering, the pure sciences, or Accounting-which will greatly enhance their likelihood of eventually finding employment.

GE

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1259713]I have a policy of returning some of the money that I have earned in the Philippines. I do not do this by giving money away, but rather I invest in the country through education and training.

For some years, I have been sponsoring a young woman through her degree, and she is about to graduate with a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management.

So I am looking for another pinay to sponsor. However, this time I want to sponsor someone in a degree that adds to the expertise of the country, probably in science, engineering, architecture etc.

The last pinay I found by chance. The next one, I will have to find.

So I am asking for ideas on how I can connect with a pinay who wants to study these subjects, and who is looking for sponsorship.

Any Ideas?

G[/QUOTE]I've been loaning to women from the Philippines on KIVA. Org who are starting or expanding business. My goal is to "lend" am much as I've paid in P2P.

[QUOTE=David_33;1260209]So Red Kilt, what would you suggest then as a course of study? Given the dearth of jobs would a girl to studying Business with an eye to starting a small business of her own be a worthwhile alternative?[/QUOTE]I still think a lot of these potential "small business" operators will be better served to undertake a shorter TESDA course which is more focused on the actual skills needed.

So many of the tertiary courses in Colleges and universities are taught by people without any practical experience in rooms that have little equipment anyway.

David. I suggest that teaching (degrees in Education) is now looking like a worthwhile career to follow if a student has good inter-personal skills and the right attitude. Notwithstanding what GE says, the job situation in Education will change as the system demands many more qualified teachers with the shift to a 12-year school curriculum and especially for teachers at Early Childhood (Kindergarten) levels, the sector which always appeals to younger women.

The salary level has just (in Feb. 2012) increased so that a beginning teacher is now close to the 20, 000 php per month level which is the salary of call center operators without the crazy hours, a more stimulating environment and a chance to live nearer to home.

Accounting and nursing are the two that I am mostly interested in. Accounting I can assist them as I have lots of friends / ex-colleagues in the banking world while with nursing qualifications and some experience they are able to get a job in some overseas countries. To make a difference in place like phils I think the first step is making sure they can feed their extended families and making sure once they are out that they still retain interest in what is happening at home. Change will come from outside, the overseas Filipino workers need to fight for that.

To me science and engineering degrees are more male dominated field. I remember girls doing engineering courses in aus were always dykes, LOL maybe its just me hahahaha

Gangles, there was nothing inane about TW's comment, it was entirely appropriate for a forum such as this. If not then please take your theme to a do-gooder's forum. You did at least have the decency to "sex" her 3 or 4 times. Good for you.

I once sponsored a girl to do nursing, mainly because she was such a good fuck and she managed to get to me so that I wanted to help her. She didn't have the good sense not to try and cheat me for more money though and I stopped after a year. It was her brother that was persuading her to scam me for more so he could go to college at the same time.

I last saw her in Hong Kong, five years older than when I first met her and looking like it as she was doing the work I'd tried to help her get out of. She said sorry but it was too late by then, she admitted that she had hit the jackpot with me but screwed up.

If I find another good candidate then I might try and sponsor again but fuck and forget is easier and less heart ache.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana;1260473]If I find another good candidate then I might try and sponsor again but fuck and forget is easier and less heart ache.[/QUOTE]But some of us want to experience the wholesome experience LOL

That includes me too. Haha

I am a selfless educationalist and philanthropist as well. Despite my busy schedule, I readily give freely of my time, effort and money in the training and education of young ladies at my CS School of Advanced Sexology where they are taught everything that they need to know about pleasing and satisfying a man, namely me.

I issue uniforms and training aids free of charge and even provide audio / visual tools so we can review progress and I can point out and correct mistakes.

When fully trained, the graduate student is able to immediately earn a good living practicing the physical skills that she has been taught on my short but effective course.

Do you think that I should seek accreditation and maybe issue diplomas?