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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2840585]I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.
[/QUOTE]Would you mind sharing, here or privately, those telegram groups?

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2840604]I recently had a quite of wait for my flight coming from outside Bangkok to BKK, so I dumped my bag in storage for 150 THB at the airport. After checking options close by I decided on Lovely Spa in Minburi. I knew how traffic is midday and toward school closure I would have taken a motorbike taxi. Not sure however where to find one in BKK but maybe head to Novotel or something and order them to pick there.

Fairly small place and six ladies with primarily 6-7 looks but overall young. It will definitely help if you speak some Thai since there wasn't much English. Think cost was around 2800 THB but had to check beforehand if sex was on the table. Not sure if this is common? Either way service level was good even if massage is a bit piano so will consider going again. The driver back decided to not take the paid express and despite heavy traffic it went smoothly. But I would like to ask is there any other options worthwhile exploring around Suvarnabhumi? I will have a few more rounds at the airport this year.[/QUOTE]Because traffic is so horrible, your best bet is to learn how to use the airport sky train (BTS). The simplest is to simply take the train from the airport to e.g. , Makkasan station (half an hour or so).

At Makkasan you're already very close to the lower Sukhumvit area where us tourists like to slum it. From there you can either take a motorbiketaxi to your final destination, or interchange to the mrt train and go to Sukhumvit station, which is just one station from Makkasan.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840436]Actually 2,500 for a car model does seem fair. Remember if she is a 5,000 girl at LAbelle or somewhere equivalent. Guess how much is her cut.

Voila. 2,500.[/QUOTE]Voila what? The fiwfans girl cut of 2500 is not 2500.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2840627]Would you mind sharing, here or privately, those telegram groups?[/QUOTE]I believe he's talking about the telegram groups from fiwfans. Each agency has one.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2840585]I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.[/QUOTE]Is there a reason why fiwfans caps out at 2500 baht? I wish the higher end soapies had their own tg or line. What telegram reviews sites are you using?

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2840643]I believe he's talking about the telegram groups from fiwfans. Each agency has one.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.

Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2840650]Is there a reason why fiwfans caps out at 2500 baht? I wish the higher end soapies had their own tg or line. What telegram reviews sites are you using?[/QUOTE]Actually it doesn't cap out at 2500. There are some that cost 20,000+ per hour. Why? I really have no idea, except the ones I looked at seem to all have in their info that they're ok about smoking and drinking.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2840654]Actually it doesn't cap out at 2500. There are some that cost 20,000+ per hour. Why? I really have no idea, except the ones I looked at seem to all have in their info that they're ok about smoking and drinking.[/QUOTE]The majority are 2000 baht.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2840653]I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.

Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.[/QUOTE]Well, when it comes to only "good" reviews you have to learn how to read between the lines. If a gal doesn't get 310's, then there is definitely something lacking. When you see a nine you can really read a seven or maybe even a six. There is a reason for that, and that reason is the agents read these reviews and if you are continually posting bad reviews then you will definitely get blacklisted by some of these agents. A better way of handling a bad experience is to deal with it directly with the agent who you booked through.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2840654]Actually it doesn't cap out at 2500. There are some that cost 20,000+ per hour. Why? I really have no idea, except the ones I looked at seem to all have in their info that they're ok about smoking and drinking.[/QUOTE]I think there's like one girl that's 20 k, and maybe a couple who are over five, but the vast majority for a 90-minute two-shot session are somewhere between 1800 and 2500. The top looking girls, I. E models are pretty, can be 2,500 to 3500 for an hour, which is still way less than you are paying for an average looking go go girl. But again, weeding through the chaff takes a lot of time.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2840653]I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.

Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.[/QUOTE]Most of the agents list their telegram on the gal's pages. Fiwfans also has their own telegram page which includes quite a few reviews.

Honestly, learning how to navigate this is taking a lot of time and patience, and I don't mind sharing some knowledge with people, but honestly, I kind of expect some good information in return. Learning which agents are good, which ones keep performance standards for their girls, which ones are really farang friendly, and which ones aren't, is a long slow process.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2840653]I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.

Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.[/QUOTE]After some time on the site you can spot the reviews that are not genuine, many times by looking at the reviewer's name clicking on them and seeing if they only review one agent's girls.

And when you talk about talent, please see the below Link in the first set of photos in the first review. I'm sorry but there's nothing in Nana plaza that approaches this.

[URL]https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae4tal4p1n2pc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2840632]Voila what? The fiwfans girl cut of 2500 is not 2500.[/QUOTE]I have no idea about social media. If these girls are as Hot as Goatscrit implies then the girls need a new Business Model. I thought they were independence contractors. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2839814]Are you Indian?

About this great professional job she has. Did you Verify? Odd she can just take off when she wants. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I am not sure why is that level of specificity relevant here (The reason I had mentioned about my appearance was to set a context that I don't appear as a rich white foreigner to a Thai women rather an average brown skinned guy.

Thai general society consider white is symbol of wealth, good luck and status.

Even you are rich with brown skin, the girl might accept you, but society still doesn't see her as accomplished.

An Indian friend of mine married Thai girl, she is happy with him, but her family doesn't really accept him as her sister who married to Czech guy.

The goal is to look white, having white kids.

Thai people also Believe word of mouth that Brown skin people are stingy, and she will not be able to take care of her sick Buffalo and entire family.

Ideal candidate is mid 50's rich white men, who will take care of her with regular remittances, maybe open a business for her sister and brother. And built a home and she will be well taken care of, historically brown men are not known for doing that so that's why they trend to avoid.

Back in US a friend of mine married Thai girl (white guy), few years later she open massage shop and does provide home visits. He is very chilled, laid back and let her make money peacefully vs brown men will sure have problem with this.

In Thailand, my goal is quality P4 P and enjoy great food and beer.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2840721]I am not sure why is that level of specificity relevant here (The reason I had mentioned about my appearance was to set a context that I don't appear as a rich white foreigner to a Thai women rather an average brown skinned guy.[/QUOTE]