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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2840910]What did he say that was wrong, The girls aren't independent, and they as a whole aren't superstars. I like Fiw when I'm lazy, even though the bulk of the babes are a schlep away. Nothanburi is close to me and their cheaper up there. But let's not pretend their supermodels and I'm sure not going out to Min buri or out to Laksi.
To find out.[/QUOTE]Compared to what you see in the GoGos and most of the oilies, they might as well be supermodels.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840994]Unreliable photos is a Drawback? In my world it's a Deal Killer. Carry on gentle Man's.[/QUOTE]Gals don't want their identity known. Totally understandable to Photoshop. Usually the body is spot on though. Rest assured the majority looks better than what you see in Nana or Cowboy.
[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2840835]For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.
After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?[/QUOTE]This was an excellent post. Disappointed nobody answered as I think a lot of us would love the answer. If there is a similar bar to this where is it in BKK?
[QUOTE=VikPunter;2841151]Trying to bump up this question as I am also interested in this response from local experts and people familiar with the BKK mongering scene. I RTFF the first 20-25 pages and couldn't find any recent information so appreciate guidance.
I am interested in high-end pick up clubs, and credible escort agencies (I saw mention of Absolute Angels, Bangkok Golden. Any others?[/QUOTE]We agree. I too would like the answer and to find out about high end pick up clubs. Pimp, Sherberts, M club, Play, all fit that bill but don't have recent reports on them.
[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2840835]For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.
After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?[/QUOTE]For many years I have known that good old things disappear and nothing equivalent comes in their place.
About 10 years ago I was a big fan of the disco at the Novotel Siam (CM-2); that disappeared while nothing equivalent took its place.
A few weeks ago I walked by the Hyatt before midnight, Spasso restaurant was already closed.
I sat outside down wistfully on the railing and I remembered that somewhere around (2015-2018) you had from there a perfect when a woman / groups of women walked down the stairs to the garage. I remembered that I had good pick ups (or I was approached and could get a lift when she drove by past a few minutes later). An ideal place for smokers, but also as a non-smoker you could score well there. I have experienced that quite a few ladies visited Spassos that were not really in the business by default.
A lot is changed after Covid; nowadays I try to find my luck again in shopping malls.
It costs a lot more time but I'm usually over for 4 till 6 weeks so there's no reason if things don't move quickly.
[QUOTE=SiamMan;2840894]I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.
The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.[/QUOTE]Aren't Kapoo clubs another option where, yes, you can hire young good looking girls but their typical "no sex" policy limits the sexual activity to Hand Jobs?
Yes, that sounds very similar to the only skin-on-skin contact one can reliably count on with those Fiwfans supermodels. Perhaps an unreliable BBBJ+CIM if you're a long shot bettor. From what I've read and heard from punters who partake in Kapoo clubs and Fiwfans anyway.
For those of us who are in this hobby primarily or almost exclusively for BBFS+CIP and are simply not willing to consider a HJ or masturbating onto a girl's stomach or boobs to be anything remotely like Real Sex, that limitation is too high a price to pay for bragging rights that you paid less and got naked with a better looking girl than the ones actually delivering Real Sex in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.
Just sayin'.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840880]Common knowledge certain people from certain parts of the world have to go that extra step to impress Bargirls.
Whereas a good Asian may be required to buy one drink. Bad Asians may be required to buy 5. It's real folks.
My friend Raj always has to be Surcharged when going out with his Good Asian Buddies. He is fine with it, he is embarrassed when he sees a fellow kinship buy one drink with 5 straws.[/QUOTE]You certainly have the right perspective based on populous views in Thailand and there may be several behavioral or other reasons to cite to backup this generalized perceived mindset. We humans, we base our quick decisions based on generalization, usually, that would seem convenient for us obviously. Generalization in decision making may work some of the time but there may be an element of success / failure probability. Some people may feel victimized for no reason at all.
[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2840819]You are right about the knowledge on Wise, generally. Apparently, she works in finance remittance and ForEx dealings. I know her pretty well after all the time together. Her Bank where she works was on the other side of the Hotel I stayed. She would stay with me at the Hotel for the entire time I was there, she would walk over to the other side to work and she would come back during lunch time sometime and back after work. All that said, she absolutely may have a past.[/QUOTE]In that case I will withdraw my comment about her.
[QUOTE=MDave1981;2840530]Met a hot freelancer at nana; 1 k St; claimed to be 27 but was probably 32 . Total GFE. Surprisingly spoke decent English. She works in quality control during the day and drives a bmw. Which was surprising. Anyways we did our thing; while leaving I gave her an extra 200 baht as tip: she as happy. She also offered to show me around Bangkok all day tomorrow but I have plans so told her I will take her for dinner at a nice place. She was real sweet but should I be perturbed by the fact that she was ok to show me around? She also mentioned her younger brother is a cop so if am in any trouble I can call her. What do you say guys? Considering her younger bro is a cop, am.
I at risk of being scammed? I did take her out for dinner after I banged her and she was very sweet. No red flags. Also told her am in Bangkok for one night only.[/QUOTE]Red Flag for me would be she Charges only 1,000 baht.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2841177]Aren't Kapoo clubs another option where, yes, you can hire young good looking girls but their typical "no sex" policy limits the sexual activity to Hand Jobs?
Yes, that sounds very similar to the only skin-on-skin contact one can reliably count on with those Fiwfans supermodels. Perhaps an unreliable BBBJ+CIM if you're a long shot bettor. From what I've read and heard from punters who partake in Kapoo clubs and Fiwfans anyway.
For those of us who are in this hobby primarily or almost exclusively for BBFS+CIP and are simply not willing to consider a HJ or masturbating onto a girl's stomach or boobs to be anything remotely like Real Sex, that limitation is too high a price to pay for bragging rights that you paid less and got naked with a better looking girl than the ones actually delivering Real Sex in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.
Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Have no idea about Kapoo places but never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers. And if CIM is on the menu, it's clearly stated on the profile. I don't need BBFS to consider it "real sex. ".
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2841201]Red Flag for me would be she Charges only 1,000 baht.[/QUOTE]Maybe there's a reason you only get high prices quoted off hot women, no offence.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2840461]Here's full day one report out. Best day I suppose tho we had several good days.
Went to 7-Heaven, not too far a walk away, where again a board member recommended (thanks guys!) where it's tablet format. They show you available girls on the iPad and they are pretty close to pics it turns out. Pricing is 1300 for BBBJ w / CIM standard and they have a few options pretty sure Google maps pics shows price list but it's in Chinese! Funniest is there is small upcharge for COB and COF but CIM is free. Wtf? There is a note on the price list that says 40 minute time limit and one shot. Ok no problem.
I picked a real cutie who seemed in her twenties and was maybe just a bit thick but not problematically so. Beautiful face and lips and what great attentive service. Makes you feel like a king. The rooms are nice and clean and there is a mat bed on the floor. Doesn't seem at all dirty or dicey like say Kasalong. Nice place and worth the 500 baht premium over Lolita's or Kasalong for both facilities and girls, no contest.
Attentive dick wash in the sink and then the BJ was on. On my back for most of it and nice technique. She had nice firm tits I could access from time to time. When it took a long time to finish, we moved to me standing and her on her knees looking up submissively. Hands in her hair and a bit of direction (I like it slow) plenty of BLS and that did the trick. Rewarded her with some nice shots her mouth. Ahhhh, one down.
We spent quite some time marveling at this and just enjoying the vibe and drinking more. I will def say Billboard is very fair no extra drink charges and not continuously pushing girls and girl drinks on you. If it's your thing you can prob just have a drink or two and ogle hotties and go whack off. Damage would be however many 180 baht ($6) drinks you have. That's it. Of course we had other plans.
This reminds me and I know all you pros know this but for the newbies. All the clubs bring a little wooden cup with your bill in it when you order. You don't need to pay right away. Each time you order they will add to it. But make SURE to check your bill esp after first drink and if you get ladies drinks. The less reputable clubs will try to tack shit on. So beware. Had this happen at Red Dragon but not Billboard, Butterflies, Crazy House, or Bunny.
OK. Back to the action. We really enjoyed Billboard. After a drink or two we moved to the revolving stage. I fucking love this. It's a round stage with slots for 12-15 girls at the perimeter. It rotates so you get to see every girl and about every 20 minutes they change out the lineup.
Night one they were wearing white and the camel toe was on point! You are looking up at all these pussies going by, plus make some eye contact if you want to, or just focus eye level and watch black stripper fuck-me heels of all kinds flood past. It's just epic. I could do this for hours. And did! Hahaha.
We eventually decided to check out Butterflies, as it came well recommended also. Very obvious same format, menu, and prices,
Both girls the chemistry was great. Chris's girl was twerking on him and simulating doggie fucking in front of a pile of old Chinese and white dudes just a few feet away. And my girl backs into me, puts my hands on her tits (nice firm be-see cups) and was reaching behind her back and stroking my now hard dick. Ok girls. We get the message you want to fuck. What a coincidence Us too!
We settle up with the mamasan (see other posts which advise against this just pay barfine and then pay girl directly after) and the girls go to change. Chris's pixie is dressed just like his old GF used to and he's a goner. Mine is also sexy AF and we are ready to rumble. We walk most of the way together but Chris grabs a cab for him and his girl since he's a bit farther.
Next up is Bunny where all my best intentions go to hell in a hand basket. The greeter seats me at the first table and before long I am getting the death stare from a very slim hottie in the closest position. Shortly I notice cat ears girl from earlier at the far end of the stage and get the serious doe eyes. Damn. She's hot and seductive. A dangerous combo!
Both girls come join me and I am in a nice Steve sandwich. I am not really in the market tho and particularly not for two. So when the Mamasan comes and asks if I will buy both a drink I think for a sec but then say "no thanks". You might think this is offputting but it's just the opposite. Instead both girls redouble their efforts!
The tiny pixie girl on my right starts massaging my shoulders and back and it's very nice. Not to be out done, cat girl starts massaging my dick! In full view of everyone. I'm not shy so I let her keep on and before long I have a full fledged boner. She's impressed and now with both hands she is pressing my shorts flat to show my full glory and showing her friend how long and thick my dick is. OMG! It's so naughty it's just great. King of the fucking world.
Ok. Fuck. How can I not take this minx! So with apologies to her friend, I bar fine cat girl and we are off (she says later her friend was really sad and wanted me to take her oh well. I've only got one dick. Sorry.).
In the never a dull moment category, as I give the mamasan the bar fine, she points out that this is not Thai currency! It's from another Asian country. LOL. Not to be deterred, they assign the stocky barmaid to escort me to the ATM. It's one of those life experiences when she marches me past security and then goes into the busy street and stops traffic both ways so I can get to the ATM across the street. Thai service rules!
Having settled up, we head to the room where we have a great time. Not quite the same college girl newness passion as the first girl but really quality BJ and sex. I'm prob 8 or so drinks in so can't remember fuck all at this point except that it's perilously hard to finish me.
At some point maybe 40 minutes in I take off the condom to maybe finish by mouth. She does some great BJ but she is determined to finish me so she mounts up bareback! Wow! Super nice in cowgirl and the Steve but no dice. Not even bareback. We try every trick in the book including her BLS and me jacking. Or me jacking and her mouth open and tongue tapping a bit and maybe I slide it in for a few pumps. I mean all amazing stuff but no dice.
Just goes to show these girls are not all hardcore because when I finally pack it in she is so disappointed. I owe her 3000 baht for her part and she is saying she doesn't deserve it all because I didn't cum! Fuck she worked hard. Not her fault, so I gave her the full amount and sent her on her way (not walking back a second time! What a nice girl. Two for two.
And that is the end of day one. Yep. Just one day. Bangkok rules![/QUOTE]Thanks for the comprehensive report will give these bars / clubs a try later in the year.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2841228]Have no idea about Kapoo places but never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers. And if CIM is on the menu, it's clearly stated on the profile. I don't need BBFS to consider it "real sex. ".[/QUOTE]Really? Maybe that was just a mistype.
You never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers? And is that also enough for you to consider it to be "real sex"?
Actually, to be even more specific about it, I would not even consider BBFS rather than BBFS+CIP to be Real Sex if it means the customer complied with the girl's request that he pull out and finish on her stomach, butt or wherever. Or if he chose to pull out and finish that way on his own. More than likely it was masturbation. With convoluted or twisted exception, a sex act is ultimately defined by how it ends and not how it begins.
Yes, I have seen CIM listed on those Fiwfans profiles. Typically for an additional 300-500 baht surcharge.
My point about that was I suspect it is a long shot bet that any of those much better looking than Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or let's include Lolitas or Kasalong girls Fiwfans supermodels would actually provide a skilled CIM to the final drop without a last second cum dodge, head turn or bailout. Especially considering by then the cost of it with the supermodel's base rate and the CIM surcharge included it will likely be close to 2,000 baht.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2841296]Really? Maybe that was just a mistype.
You never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers? And is that also enough for you to consider it to be "real sex"?
Actually, to be even more specific about it, I would not even consider BBFS rather than BBFS+CIP to be Real Sex if it means the customer complied with the girl's request that he pull out and finish on her stomach, butt or wherever. Or if he chose to pull out and finish that way on his own. More than likely it was masturbation. With convoluted or twisted exception, a sex act is ultimately defined by how it ends and not how it begins.
Yes, I have seen CIM listed on those Fiwfans profiles. Typically for an additional 300-500 baht surcharge.
My point about that was I suspect it is a long shot bet that any of those much better looking than Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or let's include Lolitas or Kasalong girls Fiwfans supermodels would actually provide a skilled CIM to the final drop without a last second cum dodge, head turn or bailout. Especially considering by then the cost of it with the supermodel's base rate and the CIM surcharge included it will likely be close to 2,000 baht.[/QUOTE]I have no need to skin it or to squirt in a gal to consider it "real sex. " It's simply not important to me at all, in fact I don't skin it because getting any type of STD with the risk of getting a prostate infection at my age is not worth it. I'm in my late 50's and can still pop twice in an hour. And I attribute a lot of this to the fact that I take care of myself. I drink minimally, don't smoke, I'm in the gym 5 days a week, eat a fairly clean diet, and walk several miles a day. So I'm doing everything I can to maintain health and sensitivity. I have friends in their late 60's and early seventies in this country you are still doing one to two gals a day and have no problems using condoms.
And there are a lot of fiwfans gals that have worked overseas including in saunas in Macau, where skill sets must be good, and in Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. I have by far some of my best Bangkok experiences in my 23-year tenure with fiwfans gals. Definitely the top 3 best looking gals I've ever had were fiwfans gals and one was pure PSE filth, minus the BBFS. Also, many of these girls that have worked overseas can actually carry on a conversation and have a little bit of an ability to be erotic and seductive, unlike basically all the GoGo gals I've been with.
The gals at Kas and Lolita's I don't find least bit attractive, I wouldn't let any of them near me to tell you the truth.
As I've gotten older I've become significantly more discriminating when it comes to looks. Flat stomach, no baby (that's the important one), lighter skin, and no hard Isaan look, preferring northern and central gals. And I like a gal who can seduce and perhaps really understands a bit of kink. I've found it all online.
I'll never forget one go go girl who I tried to get to engage in some dirty talk, and she looked at me shocked and said, "I'm a nice girl. " Don't think I've ever laughed so hard at the ability to compartmentalize and disconnect.
Hi all,
I am heading your way next week. Still pretty new to the game, is anyone willing to show me the ropes in exchange for a drink or two in nana? At Steve are you still around at the end of next week?