FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1483398]I slightly disagree. I thought the line-up was poor from opening untill around 3 pm. Then it improved substantially.

If I recall correctly you need to arrive prior to 2 pm to benefit from the 40E entry.

Cheers,

S16.

Still Helenized.[/QUOTE]I arrived at 12. Already some pretty girls or girls with good body like Jana, Mara, Anisha, Vera, etc. Roxanne arrived at about 12. 30 and I went after her promptly. Leona showed at 2 or shortly after. I believe Dina was around. Okay Which vital girls caused the improvement at 3? I did not notice. I don't recall when Michaela (Helen) started but fairly early. We're any very important girls missing?

Did not see Vivienne, Denisa, Daisy, Ingrid.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1483502]I arrived at 12. Already some pretty girls or girls with good body like Jana, Mara, Anisha, Vera, etc. Roxanne arrived at about 12. 30 and I went after her promptly. Leona showed at 2 or shortly after. I believe Dina was around. Okay Which vital girls caused the improvement at 3? I did not notice. I don't recall when Michaela (Helen) started but fairly early. We're any very important girls missing?[/QUOTE]I do not know the line-up that well to be so detailed. Just saying that based on observations the line-up was not impressive early on in the day. Few girls and difficult to find optical quality. In the starting hours this Sunday I was wondering why I wasted 40E to get in there, and I think this is a small yet important detail for the feinschmeckers out there. Again, it then slowly improved and by around 3 pm things were decent. Just remember to arrive prior to 2 pm to benefit from the 25E discount on the entry fee.

I think Kempis hit the nail on the head with his description a few reports below and pretty much tells my sentiments on why Sharks never will be my #1 club. You really, really need to fill this big wearhouse up with guys and girls to get things rocking. When things are slow it's downright boring. Much easier to create a nicer/electric atmosphere/buzz on small spaces at Oase, World or Mainhattan at slower times.

But eventually things turned out ok, and the line-up is not bad at all.

[QUOTE=Shark16;1483695]I do not know the line-up that well to be so detailed. Just saying that based on observations the line-up was not impressive early on in the day. Few girls and difficult to find optical quality. In the starting hours I was wondering why I wasted 40E to get in there, and I think this is a small yet important detail for the feinschmeckers out there. Again, it then slowly improved and by around 3 pm things were decent. Just remember to arrive prior to 2 pm to benefit from the 25E discount on the entry fee.[/QUOTE]Perhaps Tamea, the tall blonde imposing looking woman like a Penthouse / Playboy model (as described by another guy very aptly) turned up at about 3PM or so. Her name sounded like "Darm-air" to me, but I just learned now that it is Tamea. She had a dominant presence scaring me a little, with me preferring sweeter more shy types. LOL.

I thought the early line up was very good compared to other FKKs on a Sunday. Still, I must allow for others having a completely different spec. The girls I listed were all natural gazelles with great bodies, and very pretty faces in a few cases. A shortage of very pretty brunettes early on I guess. Most of the good ones seemed to be blonde.

I never negotiate with the girl about her service before hand. I also hate this. On the other hands, I try to approach intensive kiss let's say between LTK and DFK in the public area. If there is a chemistry between us, she goes with flow.

If the girl says,"Baby, I cannot kiss here. Everybody is watching us and I don't like this, it's house rule here. But, of course I can kiss in the room you know", you will get just LTK or even worse in the room from my experience.

Just my 2 cents.

Since I've exhausted Oase line-up(mostly the same girls that's been working there for years), I stopped by Sharks on Saturday night, and wasn't impressed with the line-up. It was quite a sausage fest. The ratio of men to girls got really bad around evening time. I think they need more girls working there. Two sessions I've had were average, and I can get better service at the NRW. I don't like to compare with Palace because the line-up weren't that high in the looks department, but it could quite well become like Place with average looking girls and overcrowded with men with girls providing crap service at busy times. Service wise, it's like all the FRA clubs, over run with less than stellar body type Romanians (I think Romanians at NRW look way better) with services being really basic and chances of memorable sessions being very low compared to NRW IMO. FRA services seams to be lacking, I will stick with NRW for now. I can see why, the chances of girls meeting tourists and newbies is very high at FRA clubs.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1483842]Since I've exhausted Oase line-up(mostly the same girls that's been working there for years), I stopped by Sharks on Saturday night, and wasn't impressed with the line-up. It was quite a sausage fest. The ratio of men to girls got really bad around evening time. I think they need more girls working there. Two sessions I've had were average, and I can get better service at the NRW. I don't like to compare with Palace because the line-up weren't that high in the looks department, but it could quite well become like Place with average looking girls and overcrowded with men with girls providing crap service at busy times.[/QUOTE]Oase has seen a significant contingent of new girls this year and at least a dozen new girls in the last 3 months. Others have been complaining more about the service from the newer girls not been up to the standard of the old girls. New girls I had this year Sylvia, Amalia, Elizabeth, Aida, were all pretty good, and Bella so-so.

For me the Palace line up on Friday night was significantly worse than Sharks on Sunday afternoon. Palace had a few really pretty girls Alice and Stella on Friday, and I don't like the service of either of them, also Chanel and Arisu, and Annabella okay Some very pretty girls seen at Sharks were: Roxanna, Jana, Vera, Dina, Leona, Tamea, Elena, and others I don't know every name (good gazelle bodies too). Sharks impressed me more as the pretty girls had better bodies than Palace pretty girls. After 3 visits its probably too early to assess the overall quality of service. It is noticeable that Sharks is frequented by many very experienced FKK customers, including many Germans, who obviously like it there. Sharks does have some known crap girls, as does any FKK. A few that have moved there after failing at other clubs. However there are definitely some brilliant girls too.

Perhaps you don't like anything that is really pretty to me? Are all the girls I mentioned, not good looking? Sharks is not at all similar to Palace. I do not have to negotiate sessions before we start. Far less silicone. Its really more similar to World, however superior line up on a Sunday day time to World.

[QUOTE=SharkEater; 1483787]I never negotiate with the girl about her service before hand. I also hate this. On the other hands, I try to approach intensive kiss let's say between LTK and DFK in the public area. If there is a chemistry between us, she goes with flow.

If the girl says,"Baby, I cannot kiss here. Everybody is watching us and I don't like this, it's house rule here. But, of course I can kiss in the room you know", you will get just LTK or even worse in the room from my experience.

Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I also like girls not so shy. Roxanna is giving me GF tongue kisses in the lounge. The only problem is it is causing a progressive rise in the flag pole. So then I have to walk through the lounge like that. LOL.

Tongue kissing in the lounge has to be a strong indicator of a good GFE session.

Roxanna also likes to show off her pretty pussy in the lounge. Tamea also opened her legs wide in my direction as if to say "You really need this pussy". Pussy exposure is something I like.

I was once ticked off at the Palace for kissing Daniella's pussy in the reception area. A kiss on the cheek was not enough.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1483959]I also like girls not so shy. Roxanna is giving me GF tongue kisses in the lounge. The only problem is it is causing a progressive rise in the flag pole. So then I have to walk through the lounge like that. LOL.

Tongue kissing in the lounge has to be a strong indicator of a good GFE session.[/QUOTE]This raises an interesting point about the general "club vibe" at Sharks: How prevalent is casual public DFK (pre-Zimmer couch action) at Sharks? Apart from Roxanna, did you see / experience other girls DFKing pre-Zimmer in the bar / lounge area? Very curious about this.

Thanks,

O

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1483946]After 3 visits its probably too early to assess the overall quality of service.[/QUOTE]3 visits are enough to categorize this club as top notch. I can easily point out the girls you've not met but close looking and room performance as Roxana. Franchesca, Denisa, Leni, Kim, Andrea, Allie and Cosmina.

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1484189]This raises an interesting point about the general "club vibe" at Sharks: How prevalent is casual public DFK (pre-Zimmer couch action) at Sharks? Apart from Roxanna, did you see / experience other girls DFKing pre-Zimmer in the bar / lounge area? Very curious about this.

Thanks,

O[/QUOTE]DFK. That's quite common in ALL the clubs. At Sharks it's no more or less than at World or Oase. Public action like BJ or sex are very rare at all the Hessen clubs apart from the cinemas and FKK Dietzenbach. The cinema at Sharks is too big, no atmosphere, almost no action in there. In the summer you can see some public action at the poolside at Sharks (outside). I've had sex in the pool upstairs. Girl's long gone.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1484220]I've had sex in the pool upstairs.[/QUOTE]In the pool or at pool side, HB? Just my curiosity.

SE

The Cane and HB have valid points. End of the day it's down to the girls you pick. If you feel the chemistry and want to further "clarify"

A few items on the list. Come out with a few complimentary lines."wow you have luscious lips, your DFK must be awesome in the room". Etc. Etc.

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1483385]I just think it's the best thing to do in order to avoid a misunderstanding later on. But, it's never a "hard" or "hurried" or "impatient" negotiation for me. And if a girl takes the discussion in that direction, then I'm not interested and the deal is off. I also like to use it as a way to judge a girl's character if I've never been with her before. For instance, I always know what the prices are and what should be included and so on. Does she tell the truth? Or, does she out and out lie or fudge the truth even a little bit?

Doing a little negotiation before going to the room can also allow a guy to make it clear what upsell services he's interested in and which ones he isn't, so that when you do get to the room all of that is behind you since its been thoroughly discussed. I haven't had the experience of girls going on and on with upsells after I've already made it crystal clear to them what I do and do not want. Another thing that drives me to negotiate prior is that I like a lot of anal. I would want that in virtually every session if I could get it. But I can't. I've found that only about 40 per cent of the girls in Germany will allow me to bugger them. So, if I'm in the mood for it then I really need to know if they butt fuck before going to the room.

"Negotiation" isn't a dirty word and doesn't have to be an unpleasant experience. And it's not about haggling either. In fact, it should be low-pressure and come with mutual smiles on the participants' faces in an easy-going and friendly exchange. I understand that some mongers may not like it because they want the full encounter to be more "natural". After all, you wouldn't negotiate if you were picking up a hot chick at the disco right? Well, I don't have a problem with calling it as it is. Candy coat it if you will, but this is P4P and that's the long and short of it. So if you're going to part with your money, do reasonable things to make sure you will get what you paid for. Negotiate! It's all a part of the game. But keep it fun and friendly.

I'll just close with saying that the less of a regular you are, the more important it is that you engage in a little negotiation. Guys like Hessen Bub and Syzgies are regulars who get to know lots and lots of girls, and the girls get to know them. This affords them the luxury of doing little or no negotiation. They have a very good idea already about what they will get. For example, I know Steffi at Oase well. Never any negotiation with her because I know EXACTLY what I will get, and it will be good too. But, there are always new girls, and I'm not around enough to develop experience with them. So, out of necessity I feel, I need to do some negotiating before I will pick them to help make sure the service I get is what I want. Imagine how much it would "suck" (pun intended) if you're in the mood for CIM and you want to blow and she says,"I don't do that." You would have known that had you "negotiated". If there's something you really want and you know it in advance, then talk to the girl about it to make sure you can get it from her. That's "negotiating".[/QUOTE]

Sharks is good. I always attend on Sunday and the place never disappoints in comparison to Sundays at Oase and World.

I'll be there in a few weeks time.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1483946]Oase has seen a significant contingent of new girls this year and at least a dozen new girls in the last 3 months. Others have been complaining more about the service from the newer girls not been up to the standard of the old girls. New girls I had this year Sylvia, Amalia, Elizabeth, Aida, were all pretty good, and Bella so-so.

For me the Palace line up on Friday night was significantly worse than Sharks on Sunday afternoon. Palace had a few really pretty girls Alice and Stella on Friday, and I don't like the service of either of them, also Chanel and Arisu, and Annabella okay Some very pretty girls seen at Sharks were: Roxanna, Jana, Vera, Dina, Leona, Tamea, Elena, and others I don't know every name (good gazelle bodies too). Sharks impressed me more as the pretty girls had better bodies than Palace pretty girls. After 3 visits its probably too early to assess the overall quality of service. It is noticeable that Sharks is frequented by many very experienced FKK customers, including many Germans, who obviously like it there. Sharks does have some known crap girls, as does any FKK. A few that have moved there after failing at other clubs. However there are definitely some brilliant girls too.

Perhaps you don't like anything that is really pretty to me? Are all the girls I mentioned, not good looking? Sharks is not at all similar to Palace. I do not have to negotiate sessions before we start. Far less silicone. Its really more similar to World, however superior line up on a Sunday day time to World.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Simex; 1484265]Sharks is good. I always attend on Sunday and the place never disappoints in comparison to Sundays at Oase and World.

I'll be there in a few weeks time.[/QUOTE]As long as they keep the Sunday cover at 40 euros. If they raise it then the guys will slowly quit showing on Sunday, then goes the girls.

[QUOTE=Simex; 1484263]The Cane and HB have valid points. End of the day it's down to the girls you pick. If you feel the chemistry and want to further "clarify"

A few items on the list. Come out with a few complimentary lines."wow you have luscious lips, your DFK must be awesome in the room". Etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]I don't know about complements as girls will not kiss if they don't want to kiss. Complementing prostitutes don't reap too much benefits. Not saying you should be rude to them. Also, there is not much to negotiate, either they kiss or not(or anal etc..). And don't believe that BS about they don't kiss everybody to make you feel special.

I thought sessions was average, not Oase level. At this point I had my share of memorable sessions(don't matter how many post counts I have, I can figure things out fairly quickly), I know I can get much better sessions with prettier girls for my 50, so I stopped spending after two average sessions. I guess I'm not really into the looks of Sharks girls, reminds me too much of World girls, thin straight figures with having no ass (not enough from my perspective) or awkward shapes (which seams to be prevalent with World and Oase Romanian girls) and the typical poneytailed Romanians.