East China - Shanghai

I am/we are sure that police accessed the Beijing forum before the Olympics and acted/raided upon information gained there. There were also several strange posters with a history of only 2-3 posts asking blunt questions about tel numbers of certain girls. As a result 'senior' members didn't send specific information to posters without history or only, if they sent their mobile number via PM first. UOTE=Drainaps]I just wonder if we're giving too much away to LE by posting here? They're wise to block normal access to the site, why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence?

Especially for places such as B2 that had become a staple of resident and visiting Lao Wais, and probably because of that less indispensable to local mongers?

Please get me right, I'm not advocating to stop posting altogether, but I have a feeling that we, B2 customers & posters, might have precipitated things (linked to poor or deteriorated connections to LE by B2 owners)....[/QUOTE]

I am/we are sure that police accessed the Beijing forum before the Olympics and acted/raided upon information gained there. There were also several strange posters with a history of only 2-3 posts asking blunt questions about tel numbers of certain girls. As a result 'senior' members didn't send specific information to posters without history or only, if they sent their mobile number via PM first. UOTE=Drainaps]I just wonder if we're giving too much away to LE by posting here? They're wise to block normal access to the site, why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence?

Especially for places such as B2 that had become a staple of resident and visiting Lao Wais, and probably because of that less indispensable to local mongers?

Please get me right, I'm not advocating to stop posting altogether, but I have a feeling that we, B2 customers & posters, might have precipitated things (linked to poor or deteriorated connections to LE by B2 owners)....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]Thought I would give CL another try. Picked one at random, L**g L**g in her ad. Made the call, knock on the door 40 minutes later. Of course the girl wasn’t the girl in the ad. Started the usual RMB300 massage, followed by up sell to RMB2000. I laughed and said to keep rubbing, massage only is ok. 2000 became 1000, too lazy to go through it all again, I countered with 1500 for two hours. What transpired was the best GFE I have had in a long time. CBJ, multiple positions, multiple pops. She had one of the tightest I’ve ever had. She came 4-5 times, and wasn’t faking. Great sense of humor, fantastic attitude. This is a girl who loves her job. After two and a half hours, exhausted, we went to the shower together and she got junior standing at attention once again, but alas, he wasn’t up for the task. Face 6, Body 8, Service and Attitude 9+. Repeat? You bet. If you can’t figure out the **, PM me and I’ll give you her phone no. Be nice to her boys.[/QUOTE]

GS, maybe good for you but you PAID too much for her IMHO but hey your happy, thats all that counts.

PC out

Dear Sogetthis,

2 years ago I stayed in the Holiday Inn Downtown (near Shanghai Station) and.being innocent- went to the hotel sauna booking a massage. To be honest: the main reason for deciding this was the very short skirt and the fantastic body of the lady being offered for the massage. I remember she really gave me a very good massage (price was 200 RMB), but as usual started trying to convince me to give me a HJ (additional 200) which I couldn't resist. After finishing she offered to visit me in my room after her work at 2am. I was very tempted. But as it was my first evening in Shanghai I had other plans.

So I think also in the Holiday Inn Pudong everything is possible.

Shamuc

Yesterday by accident passed the BBS area in Wuzhong Lu and caught the eye of a beauty. Couldn't resist, very charming, fantastic face and body (tits perhaps a little bit small but still ok). I'm not so experienced with BBS so negotiated something for 300 RMB. To understand later that I "only" got a "tit job" (didn't find an abbreviation for that), first time experience for me and fine. I could finger her as I wanted.

It's in Wuzhong Lu no. 382 the right window (there are several), she's number 23. Really sweet.

"why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence? "

Incredibly strange question to propose if you ask me. Why on earth waste the manpower of an employee with such incredibly sophisticated English that he could understand these forums, when you can already find prostitute info a magnitude of 100 times more numerous and detailed in Chinese. But anyway, ... why would that even be necessary? As if they don't know the addresses of the places paying protection money to them as-is?

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]GS, maybe good for you but you PAID too much for her IMHO but hey your happy, thats all that counts.

PC out[/QUOTE]You're right, my friend, but my time is money too.

Parasitius,
I'm sorry to say you don't know them well enough if you doubt what Beijing Fox or I are saying. They're obsessed with intelligence from / on Lao Wai, and will go to extremes to get it. Makes them look much better with their superiors. You would also be surprised at their language skills. Your underestimating them, I'm sorry to say, is only linked to your not having enough flight hours on knowing them. Sorry to sound preposterous, but you should know better.....

[QUOTE=Parasitius]"why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence? "

Incredibly strange question to propose if you ask me. Why on earth waste the manpower of an employee with such incredibly sophisticated English that he could understand these forums, when you can already find prostitute info a magnitude of 100 times more numerous and detailed in Chinese. But anyway, ... why would that even be necessary? As if they don't know the addresses of the places paying protection money to them as-is?[/QUOTE]

Drainaps is 100% correct.

Wobudong

[QUOTE=Drainaps]Parasitius,

I'm sorry to say you don't know them well enough if you doubt what Beijing Fox or I are saying. They're obsessed with intelligence from / on Lao Wai, and will go to extremes to get it. Makes them look much better with their superiors. You would also be surprised at their language skills. Your underestimating them, I'm sorry to say, is only linked to your not having enough flight hours on knowing them. Sorry to sound preposterous, but you should know better.....[/QUOTE]

While I am suitably impressed with your friendships in high places claim, would it not be of use to others to actually post the names and locations of these rabies infested amazing line up KTV's?

Or is it just horn blowing bullshit?


[QUOTE=Wobudong]

Lastly, the reason why KTV's are immune to raids is that they are the favorite 'past time' and business playground of most Chinese business men and the majority of government officials. Almost every city in China has several 'secret' spots where these guys spend their 'hard earned money' (pun intended). In general they classify in 2 categories, the super high-end members only deal, or the skanky/shady joints that will repel most people except the ones in 'the know'. I have been to one of those a few times and my first impression was I might have caught rabies or a similar just by stepping inside. Until I saw the lineup

Wobudong[/QUOTE]

Hi there,

Has anyone ever been to Adeline international? Its on 888 Panyu lu.

If not, I will try this

Thanks

Well maybe you have access or experience I don't know about, but at least from a purely logical standpoint it makes no sense whatsoever and seems extremely self-important and arrogant of everyone thus paranoid (IMHO) that the authorities should be so concerned with this little hub of info and the maybe 200 foreigners in Shanghai who frequent these saunas and maybe 1000 more who partake much more occasionally. (Seriously -- for all my trips to the former village and various saunas over the years and never seeing other foreigners, it is preposterous to estimate the number being a lot bigger than my wild guess. )

Think about this realistically... if they didn't want foreigners to be able to get sex services and that was their goal, it wouldn't take a few days of threats being passed back through pay-off connections before most saunas (of the 1000s) in town would agree to reject the petty 1%(most)-5% of revenues they are seeing from foreign clientel. IF they were so sneaky and so in the know, they would have had a sting meet with Dragon and others by now. None of the things that logically should be happening if the (self important) paranoia were true are happening. All we see is a random unexpected event here and there, probably due to bad relations somewhere in the chain, and there is no way I'm going to believe it is anything more until I see better proof. Look at Tongrenlu, do you honestly think they couldn't close that up if they wanted to keep foreigners from having access to paid pussy?

Do you want to explain to me why this site remained unblocked for ALL of these years until just recently if it really had such amazing 'special' status to the authorities? The fact that it took so long to get blocked clearly shows to me it is in the category of any other RANDOM site on the internet -- eventually the filter folks run into it completely by accident and block it, but no sooner.

[QUOTE=Drainaps]Parasitius,
I'm sorry to say you don't know them well enough if you doubt what Beijing Fox or I are saying. They're obsessed with intelligence from / on Lao Wai, and will go to extremes to get it. Makes them look much better with their superiors. You would also be surprised at their language skills. Your underestimating them, I'm sorry to say, is only linked to your not having enough flight hours on knowing them. Sorry to sound preposterous, but you should know better.....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Parasitius]Well maybe you have access or experience I don't know about, but at least from a purely logical standpoint it makes no sense whatsoever and seems extremely self-important and arrogant of everyone thus paranoid (IMHO) that the authorities should be so concerned with this little hub of info and the maybe 200 foreigners in Shanghai who frequent these saunas and maybe 1000 more who partake much more occasionally. (Seriously -- for all my trips to the former village and various saunas over the years and never seeing other foreigners, it is preposterous to estimate the number being a lot bigger than my wild guess. )

Think about this realistically... if they didn't want foreigners to be able to get sex services and that was their goal, it wouldn't take a few days of threats being passed back through pay-off connections before most saunas (of the 1000s) in town would agree to reject the petty 1%(most)-5% of revenues they are seeing from foreign clientel. IF they were so sneaky and so in the know, they would have had a sting meet with Dragon and others by now. None of the things that logically should be happening if the (self important) paranoia were true are happening. All we see is a random unexpected event here and there, probably due to bad relations somewhere in the chain, and there is no way I'm going to believe it is anything more until I see better proof. Look at Tongrenlu, do you honestly think they couldn't close that up if they wanted to keep foreigners from having access to paid pussy?

Do you want to explain to me why this site remained unblocked for ALL of these years until just recently if it really had such amazing 'special' status to the authorities? The fact that it took so long to get blocked clearly shows to me it is in the category of any other RANDOM site on the internet -- eventually the filter folks run into it completely by accident and block it, but no sooner.[/QUOTE]
I somehow agree on your "numbers". The foreigners, in a town as Shangai, are a fraction of an appr 20 mill population. The locations are many and mainly cater for a chinese clientele. Certainly they do not know them from ISG. Maybe the authorities do not like certain news about mongering places are spreaded through the internet as put a "bad" light of the town. Thinking about the billions of internet users...all potentially coming to know about the great mongering places in Shangai.
The funny thing is that these places are so obvious for the locals but not for the foreigner. With the experience one can build a sense of identification of certain signs on buildings, but from there to close the stablishement on a road populated by foreigners.... it is quite weird.
There are tens of places - quite "respectable" openly advertising on the bulding, on the hotel front... The authorities do not like the establishments or they do not like the idea the foreign can see a "lot"of these forming an opinion?

A couple of weeks ago I have been in Shangai and went to a sauna, located above a KTV. At some point there were some noises, whilst I was cuddling with the girl in the room. She was alerted, all worried, trying to understand the reason of the noises and telling me "110...110" like the place was being raided (wasn't).
So, certainly something is going on!
Will it, can it last till the end of Expo 2010?
Quite a long time to the deadline, isn't it?
Can those establishments stay close for so long?
"State" reasons may suggest so, authorities do not care..until this action disturbs some other "authorities"....:)

PS does anybody know the starting and ending dates of the Expo?

Parasitius,

Without trying to make a dissertation (I'm not qualified anyway as I don't speak the language):

i) If you try to apply Western world logic to China on what's relevant or not, you'll often crash on takeoff. Statistics as you mention them are relevant to your (or my) western mind, but don't extrapolate much....

ii)Appearances (face) count more than facts (and not only in China.......) Acting on leads from here gives face. Anything Lao Wai-related gives double points, as I'm sure you know only too well.

iii) This site has a-grade intelligence. In my experience, it's not just "any site". Maybe the filter has come by by chance, but few chances after that. Sure you have roamed other sites and you have a Senior status here not by chance? Please think twice: if you keep coming here for sources, why they should not?

Besr.

[QUOTE=Parasitius]Well maybe you have access or experience I don't know about, but at least from a purely logical standpoint it makes no sense whatsoever and seems extremely self-important and arrogant of everyone thus paranoid (IMHO) that the authorities should be so concerned with this little hub of info and the maybe 200 foreigners in Shanghai who frequent these saunas and maybe 1000 more who partake much more occasionally. (Seriously -- for all my trips to the former village and various saunas over the years and never seeing other foreigners, it is preposterous to estimate the number being a lot bigger than my wild guess. )

Think about this realistically... if they didn't want foreigners to be able to get sex services and that was their goal, it wouldn't take a few days of threats being passed back through pay-off connections before most saunas (of the 1000s) in town would agree to reject the petty 1%(most)-5% of revenues they are seeing from foreign clientel. IF they were so sneaky and so in the know, they would have had a sting meet with Dragon and others by now. None of the things that logically should be happening if the (self important) paranoia were true are happening. All we see is a random unexpected event here and there, probably due to bad relations somewhere in the chain, and there is no way I'm going to believe it is anything more until I see better proof. Look at Tongrenlu, do you honestly think they couldn't close that up if they wanted to keep foreigners from having access to paid pussy?

Do you want to explain to me why this site remained unblocked for ALL of these years until just recently if it really had such amazing 'special' status to the authorities? The fact that it took so long to get blocked clearly shows to me it is in the category of any other RANDOM site on the internet -- eventually the filter folks run into it completely by accident and block it, but no sooner.[/QUOTE]

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