Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2844499]Next thing you know some of the girls will be referring to it as "Real Sex. " In which case I am happy to offer a humble "You're welcome, gentlemen. " LOL.

Actually, the strange way it is mentioned on some girls' profiles is one of the reasons I qualified and tempered my praise of those mentions with "True or not at crunch time. " Why not use the more conventional terms for it? Is there a translation issue such that they don't really mean what we think they mean? Was it written by someone else who gains from a booking and whatever hassle or confrontation the girl has about it in the room "at crunch time" is her problem?

Well anyway I do understand the part about, as TConor added, "With a 2 k extra charge. " Is that from first-hand personal experience, TConor? I assumed there would be an extra charge for it.

I want girls who agree upfront to BBFS+CIP even in writing to make more money. I want their co-workers to know they are making more money. And an extra charge for it helps to confirm that it means what we think it means and not something else. However, if there is a mention of how much the extra charge for that is on all their profiles or elsewhere on the website I guess I missed it.[/QUOTE]As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.

[QUOTE=TConor;2844557]As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.[/QUOTE]Look at the phrasing. "anal sucking?" = rimming," mouth finish " = CIM. "finish at face" = COF, etc.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2844299]Pointing out the not so obvious.

This 1,500 price isn't negotiating per SE. Highly likely they are not that desirable.

The only customers they get come in at Closing and don't give a BLEELP about how they Look. For them they get to tell Thier Billion East Asian pals they got a 50 % discount.[/QUOTE]I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.

I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.

Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".

That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.

[QUOTE=Kadaklaunda;2844174]Flight got delayed and postponed due to a massive typhoon approaching from Japan side. Since I got the message in time got a golden opportunity to enjoy Bangkok for some more time. This time I was very focused and wanted to do an African girl. Just to strike it off my wishlist. Saw many at Soi Cowboy (group of 5) and then many more (atleast 15) near Nana Plaza in small groups of 4-5. None were attractive or close to decent but then found one named 'Jamira'. She was bigger than most petitte girls and had a great skin texture and shiny face. Even African girls / ladies show no interest in Indians could be because they look down upon us or maybe they also had bad experience due to Indian bald uncle's. Anyways, I found her standing in one corner and spoke to her. She agreed for 1000 baht and room charges which was additional 250 baht. I went down on her for 30 minutes and she kept requesting me to continue as she was surprisingly always there. After doing all the efforts she finally came and then let me fuck her. It was ok but worth the money I paid and the fantasy I had to bang an African chick.

Since I had some more time in hand I went to Spankey's again but this time it wasn't a good experience. There was a lady named 'don't' who was a phenomenal dancer, had a great body and curvy boobs. Before me an American bought her a drink and she danced in his lap and let him feel her for 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]Shit like this happens all the time. Not a reason to fuss about it. One drink isn't going to break you.

[QUOTE=TConor;2844557]As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.[/QUOTE]Ah nice. Thanks.

But still, not that I doubt the word of an online mamasan or question exactly how she can be sure what actually happens in the room "at crunch time" with any of the girls, are you also saying it was proven true to you in first-hand experience with those girls that their odd phrasing of it means what we think it means?

[QUOTE=TConor;2844557]As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.[/QUOTE]How did mamasan confirm it?

And why not confirmed for the other two?

Did mamasan advise an expected price to be paid, or is it to be negotiated with the girl?

[QUOTE=TConor;2844559]Look at the phrasing. "anal sucking?" = rimming," mouth finish " = CIM. "finish at face" = COF, etc.[/QUOTE]You are right about that.

They just got the translation wrong.

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2844294]Sorry mate, I tend to disagree with you on the Thermae view point or Thai Chicks behaviour towards people of a particular country. This is my 3rd trip in 9 months, twice for work and once for total pleasure. So, I know what I am talking about with being on the ground and experiencing it myself. Firstly, allow me to share that it is the brown skinned people that they are wary off as some of them are but not all, not particularly Indians. I have been coming to Thailand since more than 12 years and never ever faced any kind of racisms during all my pleasure and business trips. Allow me to clarify that I am right now in Bangkok typing this report and I am an proud Indian. Yes, I have twice gone to Thermae Bar on 13th and 15th August night. Never did I felt discriminated or ignored or not preferred or given a cold treatment by chicks or they did not wish to go. I am not challenging your view point or your financial strategy of countering a chick with a 50% discount on her ask, its your wallet and decision. That is one reason if I may be allowed to pin point one reason for those chicks to respectful say no to a guys as they hold a viewpoint as the next brown skin man will offer her the same. These chicks have seen it all and understand it better than men.

My report of my 3 night Bangkok trip will be uploaded in a day or two as I am leaving for Pattaya for 7 nights where no business and all pleasure awaits me. Bangkok it was vice versa.

And yes, my report will be long enough. All brown skin people reading my report do not get discouraged and visit Thailand. It is a beautiful country with smiling people and follow the basic atticates and manners that are expected of any tourist be it of any country. That is the norm for all of us in our daily lives, isn't it guys?

All of these are my personal viewpoints.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Part of what he typed was true. I am fair skinned and I am a foreigner living in India, but I have Indian ancestry. I can understand what the other gentleman typed. I've seen how some Indian men behave towards Thai women. The problem is that you and I maybe educated and may use commonsense, but I have seen not just few, but tons of Indian men misbehave with thai women right from the airport itself. One of the biggest issue here from what I understand from conversations with some friends is that lots of companies give free tickets and package deals to Thailand to shop keepers or dealers for achieving sales targets or to take big orders. The owners of these establishments often send their staffs / shop keepers to Thailand and may prefer to elsewhere which are increasingly becoming a sex tourism destination for wealthier Indians, but raises fewer doubts among their family members. While the ones who do the bad things maybe less than 10% of the men visiting Thailand, These men ruin the reputation of good Indians. When I visited a famous Massage once, I overheard a group of Indian men threatening to walk out and take the business to the next establishment because they offer the same service for just half the price, and the mamasan and the girls themselves shouted back in Thai to get out and they continued swearing and took over a minute to calm down. I had an Indian colleague with me at that time and he was super ashamed. While the girls warmed up to me, they never gave any eye contact to my colleague and the one he chose literally walked away saying she has a stomach ache or something. I didn't want to leave him, I said sorry, maybe next time and I walked out with him. As we walked out, we saw this very group also leave the next establishment with a lot of swearing between them and the staffs of the MP.

The next day I did visit the same establishment as one girl caught my eye, and I was lucky she was free. She disclosed she recognized me when we were in the room and she was saying that she was so happy that none of them in that group selected her because some of her colleagues have been treated very roughly and some of them were even bitten.

News like these spread like a wild fire among the WG.

It's not with just WG they misbehave. When I took my flight from Chennai to BKK just after they re opened, I saw a lot of misbehaving. Many passengers were already drunk and families who boarded the plane had a terrified look in their faces. So many of them were refusing to wear masks. There were at least 5 men behind me who were very loud and were drinking alcohol despite the fight attendants begging them to stop doing that. Then one brawny fight attendant came to the rescue and shut them down by saying that he will make sure they get arrested when the flight lands.

I had a very similar experience from Kochi to BKK as well. Both of them were in AirAsia. I now take the XL seats, so I could avoid them.

Then once you land, we can witness the drama in the immigration counter as well. The less said, the better.

Back to my Indian colleague. He once took a grab to a famous shopping mall which was 10 kms away from where were lodging. The grab driver was so impressed by him that he did not believe he was an Indian because of how well he behaved and was groomed.

So like the other Gentleman reported, if we are groomed well, dressed well and more importantly smell good, Thai people do change their mind very fast and are very receptive.

The reason you maybe having a better time is simply because you look good, you present yourself very well and you take care of a lot more things than many Indian men do and you are enjoying the benefits.

Friday the 11th my plan got confirmed to land in Bkk on 13th. Booked my ticket of Thai airways at 14000 THB /437 USD (approx figures after converting from local currency). Was getting cheaper airlines as well but nah, I love Thai Airways and their service apart from their big aircrafts, 380 or 340 airbus my guess. I was informed that aircraft changed to Airbus 320 as less number of passengers. Seat next to me was not occupied as well. Normal average service nothing great. Reached my hotel, showered and straight away reached Thermae at around 10.30 PM. Took a whiskey and my my some of the Thai chicks were damn good and pretty, real peaches. Real ones which you don't find in clubs or pick up joints. Honestly, I could bang many of them. Club was getting crowded by Koreans. They just kept coming in groups and drinking, making noise and picking chicks, not all of them as I could see them haggle too. I liked a chick in blue dress and she was approached by lot of men but no one took her. I went to her too; her quote was 4 k ST and 10 K LT. She was stuck to her price and till the time I was there, no one had picked her up. I stayed there for an hour as it was my first visit and asked the motorbike guy outside of Shock 39. It's closed post covid and he suggested Mixx. I hoped on to his bike in 100 THB. It was my first visit there and had no idea how things worked. It was empty around 12 with a few chicks and less punters around. I asked one chick and she quoted me 5 K and she'll make me happy. I asked another and her ask was 10 K LT, I said too high and she came down to 8 K, last offer. The 1st chick came back to me and sat next to me with her fruit juice. Her English was very poor and I used Google translate to convey to her that I looking for Long time. I offered her 3500 for 4 to 5 hours and she agreed. I clarified on translate of her DFK and BJ to which she agreed. Nia her name was very nice, cute and well behaved. She informed me of being from Chiang Mai and here in Bkk for 5/6 days to buy 2nd hand clothes for her shop in her hometown and making some side money as she needed it. She was truthful and shared her shop pics and selling. Sex with her was great and I really fucked her to my heart's content wherein she came thrice, twice by DATY and once when I fucked her. It took me a long time to come as I like hard beds and it was a soft bed of my hotel. I came out of the shower and I saw her waiting for me all dressed up to depart. That's where things went downhill. During the argument that we had, I was the one who was livid, lost my cool and a very argumentative. Never did once Nia raised her voice, was disrespectful or angry. I showed her my Google translate chat to her and she said that my message got converted to that I am looking for relationship, long time. She was very confident and told me not to pay anything and go and clarify from anyone in the reception or any Thai and she will wait. She said she is not lying and 3500 was ST as Mixx prices are like 5 k ST to 8 k 10 k LT. Honestly guys, it was a communication gap from my end as Google translate fucked my message as I clarified from my friend on Monday morning who is a resident in BKK as that's exactly my message to her which got converted to looking for long term relationship. In a fit of rage, I handed her my wallet which contained 25 K, took out the entire cash, told her of 25 K and handed her to take it all as I was not lying myself. She did not touch my notes and was not even livid. She had asked for advance and I told her to trust me as I will give it to her later. She said I trusted you; I gave her 3500 THB and said you have cheated me. Believe me guys, her eyes got wet and informed me she's a Buddha fearing girl and has never cheated anyone in her life. I did not take her number which I always do if I like a girl, but Monday morning realized my mistake as could have a ready date in Chiang Mia if I happen to go. Nevertheless, slept 4 hours to get ready for my Monday work meetings.

I was very tired due to my less sleep in the last 2/3 days and aching legs due to wrap things at my end before my departure. My meeting had to start at 12.30 noon. 10.30 am, Went to a 7 eleven close to my hotel and a massage shop just opened and girls coming in. I chose to go in lured by a girl who had not even changed. Told her of my back and leg pain and opted for dry Thai massage and did not change into spa clothes neither took off my Undies. Because I lose control. LOL. 50 minutes of excellent massage wherein she tried playing with Junior and I stopped her from doing so. She offered sex or a HJ, I said No. Wanted to save my juice for the evening and informed her that I don't have a condom. She said work is bad and I am her first customer as shop just opened. She offered FS at 800 THB and I gave in because her body was good with a decent face. Plus I had my balls filled up with half night session. It was a wonderful session of fucking and CBJ. Guys, it was my first time of CBJ as never felt any kind of rubber on shaft during her sucking; it was great skills and effort. I have never said yes to it but she herself changed the condom and gave me a CBJ as I was really short of time and told her to finish me up as couldn't come during intercourse. It was right decision from my side as I felt happy, satisfied and contended post the session. In the evening, went to Nana Plaza to get a hang of it and check out a few Ago go bars. 30 minutes, Had one whiskey in the middle of Plaza and saw all the bars from below. Twisters right in front of me, decent chicks coming in and out. I had terrible hip pain due to excessive walking during a plant visit and SOIs. Went in to check Rainbow 5, billboards and butterfly. Surprisingly, Rainbow 5 was empty on Monday night and other two with hardly any customers. Spent only 5 minutes in Rainbow 5 and spent 30 minutes each in other 2 clubs. Had a drink in both of them. They made me sit on the sofa in front of naked girls without bras and man o man I could spend hours there just looking at their bodies dancing with their boobs juggling around. Some girls had good bodies and all natural tits. Great sight. I am not a fan of ago go clubs as too pricey for me and add to it Mamasan fees. Full credit to Billboard and butterfly as no pushing around or heckling for drinks. I had excruciating hip pain and decided to call it a night and came back to my room by 2 PM. On the way, enjoyed my 2 chocolate ice creams. I was happy with my morning massage session.

Tuesday the 15th, worked all day and somehow reached my hotel on time. I was very keen and adamant to pick a chick from Thermae as a few were rubbed on to my brain. Reached at 10.30 PM, grabbed a drink and to my surprise a lot of new chicks and the old ones not to be found. Did the walk of shame as am not used to it and find it uncomfortable to actually look at them like that. Standing in front of them looking at their faces, checking out their bodies and especially the boobs. I zeroed in on 3 chicks. 1st one had big boobs, real good big ones but short height. 2nd one slim, white, very beautiful, true Thai beauty, graceful and elegant in her black dress, 3rd one had just entered and had a great body, nice tits, beautiful smiling face with dimple on both cheeks. She was standing in front of me and ever smiling. She Was being approached by a lot of guys and not being selected or turning them down. All of them quoted me 3 K short time. Man, I wish I was young; had the capacity to bang all of them in one night 10 years ago but not anymore. Junior doesn't cooperate. Finally, made up my mind for the 3rd one as everything ticked my boxes of requirement. Boobs, face, body, smiling personality and above all her willingness to go with me by constantly looking me with her beautiful smiling face. Her English was decent and clarified of her DFK and BJ to which she agreed. I went to her only on time to enquire her ask and she quoted me 3 K, I counter with 2. 5 K with exact words- 2. 5 K for one hour, humble request. She thought for 10 seconds and said yes. I would have taken her even for 3 K. We both walked hand in hand to my SOI 11 hotel and what a wonderful and great session I had with her. I really had a intense wonderful fuck session with her and in doggie again my hip pain got to me. Requested her for BJ without condom and she obliged me. Wow, simply Wow. 11.30 PM we reached and 12.30 exactly she departed. She is working in Thai Electric as told to me and once or twice a week is in Thermae. Was truthful to inform me that she is going back to the bar and will work one more time in the night. Hugged her and had a nice DFK from her as a parting bye bye present. I wanted to simply make the best of last night in BKK and literally dragged myself to Grace to check out the CIS scene. Sat on their sofas for half an hour to catch my breath and relax. Went to their disco to be informed of 500 THB entry and I turned back to my hotel as was sheer waste of money at 1. 30 am to slowly walk and enjoy my 2 chocolate ice creams. I know I will put on weight but I will get back in shape back in my hometown. I could have taken the cab or motorbike but chose to walk as wanted to experience it myself from the ground.

During my Bangkok trip, I was always racing against the time and trying to fit in time for my fun activity as it was more of a Business and less of pleasure whereas I go to Pattaya Wednesday where it would be vice versa. Plus, pain in my left hip is really bothering me now and making me difficult to walk around much but I am still doing my best. I was always landing in Bkk but never stayed here, did my work in day time to always reach Pattaya by late night to enjoy. I realize now I should have always broken my trip into 2 parts as I have done now.

Long FR but posting it.

Regards.

I hate to admit it mate but that's the sad truth. I cringe and really get upset when I see that kind of behaviour by some of my countrymen but I don't blame them as most of them are first time international travellors and have no idea as to how they are expected to behave. I am not defending them at all as that's no excuse to do what they do, a wrong is a wrong. Plus, it is their first time exposure to such openness and availability of pussy in such large numbers at various price levels. A lot of other factors too. Also, 15 USD is not a big amount for some of us but for a lot of guy's it is. I also agree to the part of 1500 THB for a Thermae chick is you get trash. I would anyday pay these kind of beautiful chicks 2. 5 k /3 k short time or 5/6 k long time, at the one I banged from Thermae was worth every penny.

As far as Indian clubs are concerned, please note that they are not cheap. Pussy and alcohol is expensive and it sells like hot cakes. The Indian clubs are full wheras the Ago go bars and some other clubs like Lucifer and Insomania in Pattaya I went yesterday were half empty. I walked out of all Indian clubs last night, my first one here as felt suffocated and hardly an inch to move. The chicks were quoting in the range of 4 k and were lapped up from 3. 5 K to 4 k. CIS good looking ones from 4 k to 5 k. Reporting from ground zero. It is just that Indians gel in those kind of clubs with their kind of songs and ambaiance.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2844563]I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.

I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.

Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".

That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2844563]I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.

I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.

Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".

That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]What do you think they charge for ST? I went there once just to see how it works. I did get the line of one girl.

Later when I texted her asking how much does she expect, she said it's up to me.

But, I didn't pursue her, as I met a French girl from OkCupid.

I am planning on returning once I visit Bangkok again at the end of September.

Where is the best place to get European freelancer? Any recommended app or bar or road? Thanks.

It depends on one's perspective sir! I never said there are quality girls available for 1500 baht but I did mention that the second best lot is available for 1500 baht at a certain time and how I managed my way through to score 3 chicks. Of course $15 is nothing for a American but for an Indian on a budget, it is alot. Hence the post is directed more towards SA brothers whose currency is weaker than baht and certainly dollar. I understand the thin line I was walking and the danger of being reputed as 'cheap' but through my post I just shared ways of finding a way around it without looking / being cheap. Of course there is no scope of negotiation in a MP or a Go-Go Bar, so the only way I could save some baht and enjoy more pussies was negotiating at Thermae. But I respect your viewpoint!

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2844563]I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.

I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.

Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".

That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]Every coin has two sides sir! I don't think I was given a cold treatment anywhere but just the fact that the obvious preference was for the Koreans and Japanese atleast at Thermae- I take this risk in saying even more over the Westeners. But I agree with you that these chicks have sen it all and understand the customers than any of us. I also agree with the fact that if one is presentable and shows good manners you are building that reputation again for your fellow countrymen / brown colour brothers.

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2844294]Sorry mate, I tend to disagree with you on the Thermae view point or Thai Chicks behaviour towards people of a particular country. This is my 3rd trip in 9 months, twice for work and once for total pleasure. So, I know what I am talking about with being on the ground and experiencing it myself. Firstly, allow me to share that it is the brown skinned people that they are wary off as some of them are but not all, not particularly Indians. I have been coming to Thailand since more than 12 years and never ever faced any kind of racisms during all my pleasure and business trips. Allow me to clarify that I am right now in Bangkok typing this report and I am an proud Indian. Yes, I have twice gone to Thermae Bar on 13th and 15th August night. Never did I felt discriminated or ignored or not preferred or given a cold treatment by chicks or they did not wish to go. I am not challenging your view point or your financial strategy of countering a chick with a 50% discount on her ask, its your wallet and decision. That is one reason if I may be allowed to pin point one reason for those chicks to respectful say no to a guys as they hold a viewpoint as the next brown skin man will offer her the same. These chicks have seen it all and understand it better than men.

My report of my 3 night Bangkok trip will be uploaded in a day or two as I am leaving for Pattaya for 7 nights where no business and all pleasure awaits me. Bangkok it was vice versa.

And yes, my report will be long enough. All brown skin people reading my report do not get discouraged and visit Thailand. It is a beautiful country with smiling people and follow the basic atticates and manners that are expected of any tourist be it of any country. That is the norm for all of us in our daily lives, isn't it guys?

All of these are my personal viewpoints.

Regards.[/QUOTE]There is no scope for negotiations in MPs and Go-Go Bars, so the best chance was in Thermae and that too at certain time and hour. Ofcourse 3000 baht is a normal price quoted in Thermae but the fact that decent girls (in my view atleast) agreed to come at that price is just something I am sharing. It could be that had no takers or maybe they already were with someone and this was like Round 2 for them. But it worked!

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2844283]Very interesting report and perspective from South Asian bros. I like that you included the exact amount you spent and I like to do the same. However IMO the fact you push for such steep discount is one of the reasons why South Asians are "looked down" on by the girls and potentially other guys at the establishments. 3000 b is a normal price to be quoted in thermae and girls refusing to go below this amount isn't an indication they're not interested, but it's just their price. They would likely have the same requirements for white or east Asians too. But it seems you were quite happy with the selection of girls you had in thermae so well done and glad you had a good time![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zam007;2844660]What do you think they charge for ST? I went there once just to see how it works. I did get the line of one girl.

Later when I texted her asking how much does she expect, she said it's up to me.

But, I didn't pursue her, as I met a French girl from OkCupid.

I am planning on returning once I visit Bangkok again at the end of September.[/QUOTE]The standard price quoted is 3 K, the girls are incentivized to "unionize" to keep this price floor. You can negotiate on an individual basis but more likely than not this will be the price asked of you.

[QUOTE=Zam007;2844660]What do you think they charge for ST? I went there once just to see how it works. I did get the line of one girl.

Later when I texted her asking how much does she expect, she said it's up to me.

But, I didn't pursue her, as I met a French girl from OkCupid.

I am planning on returning once I visit Bangkok again at the end of September.[/QUOTE]Just as a follow up. I personally do not think Thermae has that many girls that I would consider good looking. It's at most maybe 1-2 that I would be interested in and many times I have taken a loop and walked straight out. Their strategy of making it incredibly dim in there also does not help that much, women can look alright in there and just bad once they get outside.