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[QUOTE=SladeWilson;2844742]Where is the best place to get European freelancer? Any recommended app or bar or road? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Can't answer your question I go to Germany when I want Euro white meat.
On a similar topic, I know there are many Arab restaurant and bars near Sukhumvit. Do any of them have cute young Persian girls, even if they're only a waitress?
BB, they go there as they are more comfortable in the ambiance of Indian songs, Indian snacks / food; they can be themselves and let loose there with their shitty dance moves. The staff is all either nepali, Indian, pakistani, Burmese, Bangaldeshi and they all speak in Hindi language with their customers. So the overall package works for the Indian men. They do not play western music at all. Thai girls all of them in huge numbers there do not discrimnate and like to go with Indian men at decent Thai Baht. One girl my regular is right now sleeping in bed while I type this told me last night that she doesn't like to go with Koreans, chinese or japanese because they all look like Thai men. Trust me, for once go to Kama and Jannat club in Pattaya to experience it for yourself and see the number of beuatiful chicks there. Indians will not be able to enjoy in ago go bars or clubs like lucifer or Insomania. I went there too last night. Insomania had 50% occupancy at 11.30 PM and lucifer hardly 20%. I made my way to Kama to pick up my chick and on the way saw droves of people lining up to enter Tony club, oh my god reached Kama and not an inch to move and I literally had to jostle to reach to my babe's table.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844817]Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
Never been to one so never knew this. If the girls and drinks aren't cheap why do Indian men all flock to these clubs? Is it because there's much less fear of rejection by the girls?
Maybe I'll drag MP to one in a couple of weeks![/QUOTE]
Firstly allow me to state in advance that I am not blaming, pin pointing or accusing any religion or community in my below FR. It is just my experience what I notice on the ground, My humble apologies in advance if anyone finds it offensive. Please do excuse me and forgive.
I can relate to each and every word that you shared here as I put forth my point in advance to my revert to Nyezhov of Indian men behaviour and I am not defending one bit of what you seen as I have seen worst in the last 12 years. I wrote there number of factors. Some of them you mentioned like dealer sales conference. Now, Thailand in India is promoted like crazy shit by both Govt's due to the sheer numbers of travellors from India. Cheap package of 3 nights including accomodation with 2 meals at 10500/- THB are promoted by travel agents as I am aware of the Travel companies MNC's of blocking by buying bulk seats in advance for full year; I have some links in Travel Industry and know how things work there. It is a lucrative sector for Travel Industry and even the smallest of centres in India have flights for Bangkok. The worst one example is that a Thai chick hit a empty beer bottle on Indian head as he thought she was a pick up girl in Pattaya in 2015 on Beach Road. You think I am not ashamed. I wrote earlier my stomach churnes with anger and hatred when I see this. My guess is 90% of Brown skin people are from India. If I am not wrong, I do not have the numbers but from the ground either it could be koreans or Indians leading the pack of highest number of travellors. I guess it's Indians, I could be wrong too. She was a civilian chick just doing her job by selling something on her cart. I guess your base is South India so you know that the Chappal lads mostly come from that part of the country or from Gujrat. I come from New Delhi. The people from North India, primarily Punjabis or from other states like to drink, party hard, eat like crazy. Yes, they are a bit loud too. It's not about money of either regions but it's the lifestyle that they lead even in their own country. I know rich Chennai business men who are millonarires and still wear chappals to their office. It is part of his lifestyle. Likewise, in north India, even if they have empty pockets they like to be shown otherwise. I am sure you must have seen this with your own eyes. I like to converse with Indian men when I see them. 3 guys got on to tuk tuk from soi 6 last evening and all 3 had good diamond rings and necklaces on them. I asked them their hometown. They were diamond merchants from Surat and were staying in Jomtein. They spent 2 hours in soi 6 drinking and partying and all 3 were in shorts and chappals. I wasn't surprised as I have been there as well for my work. Even the richest of gujratis are simple and move around like this. Likewise, 3 Arabic guys too got into the same tuk tuk and were likewise dressed in shorts and slippers but they wouldn't be judged as Indians are. I know our behaviour and actions on the ground has not been good, no defence there.
As far as I am concerned, girls tell me that I do not look like Indian. I look Arabic or from Canada as I have fair skin, thank my parents; I dress well, put in a lot of effort on my grooming on a weakly basis, smell well by putting on a good perfume and am always humble, down to earth, grounded and respect women. I exercise so I am fit for my age as I am 50 plus and do not have a round tummy as I am very careful as to what goes into my stomach. I'm a one meal man. But that's a part of my life and the way I lead it even in my hometown. I do not do it for travelling to Thalland. I also never shy away by telling them that I am from India.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Zam007;2844631]Part of what he typed was true. I am fair skinned and I am a foreigner living in India, but I have Indian ancestry. I can understand what the other gentleman typed. I've seen how some Indian men behave towards Thai women. The problem is that you and I maybe educated and may use commonsense, but I have seen not just few, but tons of Indian men misbehave with thai women right from the airport itself. One of the biggest issue here from what I understand from conversations with some friends is that lots of companies give free tickets and package deals to Thailand to shop keepers or dealers for achieving sales targets or to take big orders. The owners of these establishments often send their staffs / shop keepers to Thailand and may prefer to elsewhere which are increasingly becoming a sex tourism destination for wealthier Indians, but raises fewer doubts among their family members. While the ones who do the bad things maybe less than 10% of the men visiting Thailand, These men ruin the reputation of good Indians. When I visited a famous Massage once, I overheard a group of Indian men threatening to walk out and take the business to the next establishment because they offer the same service for just half the price, and the mamasan and the girls themselves shouted back in Thai to get out and they continued swearing and took over a minute to calm down. I had an Indian colleague with me at that time and he was super ashamed. While the girls warmed up to me, they never gave any eye contact to my colleague and the one he chose literally walked away saying she has a stomach ache or something. I didn't want to leave him, I said sorry, maybe next time and I walked out with him. As we walked out, we saw this very group also leave the next establishment with a lot of swearing between them and the staffs of the MP.
The next day I did visit the same establishment as one girl caught my eye, and I was lucky she was free. She disclosed she recognized me when we were in the room and she was saying that she was so happy that none of them in that group selected her because some of her colleagues have been treated very roughly and some of them were even bitten.
News like these spread like a wild fire among the WG.
It's not with just WG they misbehave. When I took my flight from Chennai to BKK just after they re opened, I saw a lot of misbehaving. Many passengers were already drunk and families who boarded the plane had a terrified look in their faces. So many of them were refusing to wear masks. There were at least 5 men behind me who were very loud and were drinking alcohol despite the fight attendants begging them to stop doing that. Then one brawny fight attendant came to the rescue and shut them down by saying that he will make sure they get arrested when the flight lands.
I had a very similar experience from Kochi to BKK as well. Both of them were in AirAsia. I now take the XL seats, so I could avoid them.
Then once you land, we can witness the drama in the immigration counter as well. The less said, the better.
Back to my Indian colleague. He once took a grab to a famous shopping mall which was 10 kms away from where were lodging. The grab driver was so impressed by him that he did not believe he was an Indian because of how well he behaved and was groomed.
So like the other Gentleman reported, if we are groomed well, dressed well and more importantly smell good, Thai people do change their mind very fast and are very receptive.
The reason you maybe having a better time is simply because you look good, you present yourself very well and you take care of a lot more things than many Indian men do and you are enjoying the benefits.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844819]Can't answer your question I go to Germany when I want Euro white meat.
On a similar topic, I know there are many Arab restaurant and bars near Sukhumvit. Do any of them have cute young Persian girls, even if they're only a waitress?[/QUOTE]No.
But cute Persian girls? Girls? Ya mean women like the Burkha Babes on Soi 4? Ewwww.
I'm with you Boi I'm on my way to Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=NinjaGoku;2843928]Do girls working as Independents and massage parlors get regularly tested for STD like HIV and all?[/QUOTE]There is very little enforcement of regular testing. IMHO the rule should be at least once a month and the reality is probably closer to once or twice a year. Just don't go about unprotected. Use condoms, PREP, PEP, whatever, but the risk in Thailand is a lot higher than in Europe or US. The main vector being the Thai male who tends to be sexually ambivalent. The bar girl we have unprotected sex with, had sex with some BF, who had been shagged by his platoon leader during his military service, or his abbot while he was a monk.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844817]Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
Never been to one so never knew this. If the girls and drinks aren't cheap why do Indian men all flock to these clubs? Is it because there's much less fear of rejection by the girls?
Maybe I'll drag MP to one in a couple of weeks![/QUOTE]Well regardless Imwith you, I'm a reputation guy, especially when I have been going to the Thermae for years.
But now I'm thinking. Classy, albiet old and fat white American guy goes to Indian Club? Hmmmmm, seems like decent pricing. Although Indian guys like them a bit padded, no?
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2844649]
Long FR but posting it.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Excellent Reports.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844817]Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
Never been to one so never knew this. If the girls and drinks aren't cheap why do Indian men all flock to these clubs? Is it because there's much less fear of rejection by the girls?
Maybe I'll drag MP to one in a couple of weeks![/QUOTE]Indian clubs are often frequented by lesser educated Indians or Indian agents who bring groups of lesser educated Indians and confine them into these clubs so whatever BS they throw, it will all be contained within those walls.
It's a good thing for the more educated and well behaved Indians whose reputations are damaged by those men.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844817]Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
[/QUOTE]Thank you for the tip. Will keep in mind next time I get in.
[QUOTE=SladeWilson;2844742]Where is the best place to get European freelancer? Any recommended app or bar or road? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try seeking arrangement if you have the money.
Can any boots on the ground speak to the TF / Online situation right now in BKK?
I'll be there in a week so I started TF to line up some prospects and it seems like there are more civvies than last year. I didn't have any luck with civvies in BKK last year and even the FLers on TF in BKK were pretty meh. Conversely thus far I'm getting a lot of good feedback and a good amount of civvies lined up.
I think tourism numbers perhaps are down from this time last year and the economic situation must be worse for Thais in general.
Anyways, curious what those that are there have to say.
I'll report once I'm there.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2844871]No.
But cute Persian girls? Girls? Ya mean women like the Burkha Babes on Soi 4? Ewwww.
I'm with you Boi I'm on my way to Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]I have no idea why but IRL I really seem to click with young cutesy Persian girls under 30, or are Persian civvies friendly to everyone? So was curious to see if I could meet some less Westernized ones in Thailand. Zero plans to go to Middle East any time soon.
Jealous of you going to FRA. Was just checking out hotel prices in FRA for next Spring and they're ridiculously higher than I remember. I usually stay near Oase cause I prefer the old Euro town feel. At least NRW isn't sky high. Need to be out of Japan for the chaos known as Sakura season and Golden Week.
Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2845151]I have no idea why but IRL I really seem to click with young cutesy Persian girls under 30, or are Persian civvies friendly to everyone? So was curious to see if I could meet some less Westernized ones in Thailand. Zero plans to go to Middle East any time soon.
Jealous of you going to FRA. Was just checking out hotel prices in FRA for next Spring and they're ridiculously higher than I remember. I usually stay near Oase cause I prefer the old Euro town feel. At least NRW isn't sky high. Need to be out of Japan for the chaos known as Sakura season and Golden Week.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about Bad Homburg? I stayed there on my last trip to Oase /.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2845174]Are you talking about Bad Homburg? I stayed there on my last trip to Oase /.[/QUOTE]But what is there to do in Bad Homburg? I always stay in Frankfurt, close to the main train station. The hotels are not outrageously priced. They are rather reasonable.
Going there early September, and staying by the Haupt Bahnhoff..