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Why
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2845055]Can any boots on the ground speak to the TF / Online situation right now in BKK?
I'll be there in a week so I started TF to line up some prospects and it seems like there are more civvies than last year. I didn't have any luck with civvies in BKK last year and even the FLers on TF in BKK were pretty meh. Conversely thus far I'm getting a lot of good feedback and a good amount of civvies lined up.
I think tourism numbers perhaps are down from this time last year and the economic situation must be worse for Thais in general.
Anyways, curious what those that are there have to say.
I'll report once I'm there.[/QUOTE]Why do you think the tourist numbers are down from last year? I haven't counted the tourists but the city is heaving. A 5 km taxi ride last night took 55 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2845208]But what is there to do in Bad Homburg? I always stay in Frankfurt, close to the main train station. The hotels are not outrageously priced. [/QUOTE]Yes, Bad Homburg more specifically Friedrichsdorf. Also used to stay in Butzbach but now that World has gone to shit I no longer do that. When I go to Germany it's to unwind in small towns and FKK clubs. I never set foot in Frankfurt only to go to Palace and 12 Apostle. I find Frankfurt a very boring city.
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Hotels in europe
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2845151]I have no idea why but IRL I really seem to click with young cutesy Persian girls under 30, or are Persian civvies friendly to everyone? So was curious to see if I could meet some less Westernized ones in Thailand. Zero plans to go to Middle East any time soon.
Jealous of you going to FRA. Was just checking out hotel prices in FRA for next Spring and they're ridiculously higher than I remember. I usually stay near Oase cause I prefer the old Euro town feel. At least NRW isn't sky high. Need to be out of Japan for the chaos known as Sakura season and Golden Week.[/QUOTE]I feel like orices for hotels in europe went up after covid and they have to come back down. It's not just a small amount either. I used to find hotels in Berlin for under $50 a night, but now they're hard to find under $100 unless you book way in advance.
Also, I hate frankfurt. Worst german city by far in terms of finding things to do, and the red light district there is just horrific -- the smell of urine, people doing meth all over the place in plain site, filthy streets and sidewalks. It's all very un-german. I don't know what's happened. I generally avoided FKKs while I was there for reasons I won't go into.
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Help wife have fun
[QUOTE=SamSam2;2845160]Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.[/QUOTE]If you want BKK to be a regular thing, make sure the wife has a good time. I'd recommend a spa for her. There are some cheaper options and the time she spends there will probably be about the time you need to do your thing. Plus, less danger of her calling you in an hour because she's tired shopping.
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Fiwi
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2845216]Yes, Bad Homburg more specifically Friedrichsdorf. Also used to stay in Butzbach but now that World has gone to shit I no longer do that. When I go to Germany it's to unwind in small towns and FKK clubs. I never set foot in Frankfurt only to go to Palace and 12 Apostle. I find Frankfurt a very boring city.[/QUOTE]Bad homburg is a cool little place with very nice parks and some baths and some cheap hotels I really enjoyed it. Hang out and relax during the day then hit Oase at night.
I think I'm going to go to darmstadt and do sharks.
But back on topic I was bored yesterday and finally up and running after coming back from Cambodia and about 2 weeks of wanking since Siem Reap is not a mongers heaven. So I played with Fiwfans and ended up schlepping around near Suttisan MRT to bang some girl that didn't look like her picture. I was so deep into the back sois during rush hour that I just did it anyway, and it was a girl I never would have picked out in person. But it was something to do, and later on that night I smashed one of my regulars just to do a twofer. That takes care of my needs until I leave Bangkok next week.
If you are a visitor here, I would pay no attention to Fiwfans at all. Firstly, you're never going to get a guarantee that what you see is what you get. The girl I did had reviews, and still didn't look like her pictures. But by the time you figure that out, you're going to be in an area that will probably scare the shit out of you if you've never been to Thailand before, ie poor lighting, insane drivers, busted sidewalks, etc.
And it's no bargain besides, my cab ride after the deed down to Asoke was 280 baht. And that's on the meter, with my resident's ability to grab a cab for a trip like that on the meter from the back soi when you're the only white dude around. If you're a rookie, you're going to get murdered.
I'm sure I'll use Fiwfans in the future, but I will confess to my mistake which was doing it around rush hour. I'll also try to pick a girl in and more accessible area. But quite frankly, for me, it's easier just to pick my fat ass up off the couch, put the bong down, and roll down to the circus.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2845240]If you are a visitor here, I would pay no attention to Fiwfans at all. Firstly, you're never going to get a guarantee that what you see is what you get. The girl I did had reviews, and still didn't look like her pictures. But by the time you figure that out, you're going to be in an area that will probably scare the shit out of you if you've never been to Thailand before, ie poor lighting, insane drivers, busted sidewalks, etc.
And it's no bargain besides, my cab ride after the deed down to Asoke was 280 baht. And that's on the meter, with my resident's ability to grab a cab for a trip like that on the meter from the back soi when you're the only white dude around. If you're a rookie, you're going to get murdered.
I'm sure I'll use Fiwfans in the future, but I will confess to my mistake which was doing it around rush hour. I'll also try to pick a girl in and more accessible area. But quite frankly, for me, it's easier just to pick my fat ass up off the couch, put the bong down, and roll down to the circus.[/QUOTE]I tried fiwfans for the first time in my last trip. Think you just need to figure out which district are closest to you. If you're comfortable on a motobike, transport won't do much dmg. Around 40 bucks one way but might be a lot more if taking a cab. Places I went to didn't seem shady. Surprisingly most of my visits was to a family hotel, you know which one if you've been.
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Hello DXB friend
Been on this thread as I might swing by BKK early Sept. Bumped into your post and double checked your DXB posts.
Check DM in a while, will share some tips for BKK. Not easy with the lady in tow, but try your luck!!
[QUOTE=SamSam2;2845160]Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.[/QUOTE]
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For your first BKK visit
For your first visit, I would keep the visit very simple. I doubt you're spending more than a week in BBK with your wife. I would stick to the Nana plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Thermae Cafe. It might be.
More expensive, but it requires much less effort.
There's also massage shops on soi 23 (make a left out of Soi Cowboy, walk about 5 minutes and a bunch of massage shops on your right). These can also be cheap options. I usually pay 1500 total for the HR massage + CFS. But I personally don't think 2000 baht is bad for a newbie who's never negotiated in BKK before. These MP girls don't usually like to kiss, so it's usually not the most GFE session.
If you're set on FiwFans, just remember it requires quite a bit of planning and research. You'll need to check the profiles, see if they're nearby, check their reviews, check the reviewers' profiles to see if they're legit, etc. It pays off really well, as I've had some amazing GFE sessions. But it does require quite a bit of time initially. And as you can see, people like Nyezhov get turned off by it. I did initially, too. Until I gave it a second, more serious attempt.
[QUOTE=SamSam2;2845160]Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.[/QUOTE]
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I was just there in early June. I found a cutie (Duen) on TF. She quoted me 2500 for 12 hours, unlimited sex. I didn't negotiate any further and took her at her offer. I think the normal price is about 3000-5000 for LT in BKK on TF and 1500-2000 for ST (some of the younger ladies). This was my personal experience.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2845055]Can any boots on the ground speak to the TF / Online situation right now in BKK?
I'll be there in a week so I started TF to line up some prospects and it seems like there are more civvies than last year. I didn't have any luck with civvies in BKK last year and even the FLers on TF in BKK were pretty meh. Conversely thus far I'm getting a lot of good feedback and a good amount of civvies lined up.
I think tourism numbers perhaps are down from this time last year and the economic situation must be worse for Thais in general.
Anyways, curious what those that are there have to say.
I'll report once I'm there.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2845369]For your first visit, I would keep the visit very simple. I doubt you're spending more than a week in BBK with your wife. I would stick to the Nana plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Thermae Cafe. It might be.
More expensive, but it requires much less effort.
There's also massage shops on soi 23 (make a left out of Soi Cowboy, walk about 5 minutes and a bunch of massage shops on your right). These can also be cheap options. I usually pay 1500 total for the HR massage + CFS. But I personally don't think 2000 baht is bad for a newbie who's never negotiated in BKK before. These MP girls don't usually like to kiss, so it's usually not the most GFE session.
If you're set on FiwFans, just remember it requires quite a bit of planning and research. You'll need to check the profiles, see if they're nearby, check their reviews, check the reviewers' profiles to see if they're legit, etc. It pays off really well, as I've had some amazing GFE sessions. But it does require quite a bit of time initially. And as you can see, people like Nyezhov get turned off by it. I did initially, too. Until I gave it a second, more serious attempt.[/QUOTE]These massage shops outside Soi Cowboy it must be said. There are No attractive providers. You could find a cute one every now and then pre Cobbida but now NOTHING.
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[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2845319]I tried fiwfans for the first time in my last trip. Think you just need to figure out which district are closest to you. If you're comfortable on a motobike, transport won't do much dmg. Around 40 bucks one way but might be a lot more if taking a cab. Places I went to didn't seem shady. Surprisingly most of my visits was to a family hotel, you know which one if you've been.[/QUOTE]I've been cruising BKK since before the Skytrain was there. I know where I am going and how to get there. If you're a newbie, you're going to be deep into the Thai areas. And I never said the word shady, there are other hazards in Bangkok besides crime or shady areas. Nor do I care about saving money, and I don't ride motorbikes.
Despite with any fan boy it might say, it's a waste of time for a casual visitor or mongerer to use Fiw. You don't save that much money if you are freaked out about your budget, you'll end up in some God forsaken area where the hell off of the main road, and you're not necessarily going to get what the picture shows. That's after you spend a couple of hours flipping through photoshopped pictures. Add to that the fact that these girls generally Service Tire customers as opposed to westerners. I would use it again if necessary, but it's so easy just to leave my condo and just grab something that I can inspect in person first.
On a personal note, I love being lectured and how to find my way around Bangkok by people who are only on their first few trips with all the transport now available. You should have been here when the taxis didn't have electronic meters and their were no trains or subways.
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Guidance Needed
I am from India and travelling to Bangkok next month. I'the like some guidance from seniors from Thailand / Bangkok if there's an option like "rent a girlfriend concept" like in Japan for sightseeing and few extra service for a period of 2 days.
And is it good to explore MR to find chicks for FS or wander out in walking street and avoid inviting girls in hotel.
My stay will be short 2-3 days max and would like to explore Thai lifestyle and also explore the chicks around.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2845408]I've been cruising BKK since before the Skytrain was there. I know where I am going and how to get there. If you're a newbie, you're going to be deep into the Thai areas. And I never said the word shady, there are other hazards in Bangkok besides crime or shady areas. Nor do I care about saving money, and I don't ride motorbikes.
Despite with any fan boy it might say, it's a waste of time for a casual visitor or mongerer to use Fiw. You don't save that much money if you are freaked out about your budget, you'll end up in some God forsaken area where the hell off of the main road, and you're not necessarily going to get what the picture shows. That's after you spend a couple of hours flipping through photoshopped pictures. Add to that the fact that these girls generally Service Tire customers as opposed to westerners. I would use it again if necessary, but it's so easy just to leave my condo and just grab something that I can inspect in person first.
On a personal note, I love being lectured and how to find my way around Bangkok by people who are only on their first few trips with all the transport now available. You should have been here when the taxis didn't have electronic meters and their were no trains or subways.[/QUOTE]Whoa sorry didn't mean to offend you just giving a different opinion and experience.
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At MickeyDuck1208 Thanks buddy ill see you in the transit lounge.
At SinfullyKorean. Thanks for the advise, you are right its a trip of 5 days with my wife. Being a newbie in BKK I probably don't know the ways here but I have mongered in other parts of the world and its been good fun, hopefully I can get around what you pay. Just a question which sound a little stupid. I've seen places like Dream Massage which adverise I think 3000, does that include the girls tip? What is a general massage around and I assume you negociate with the girl in the shop?
I am after simlicity as my wife won't know what I am upto (I hope not) and being at the conrad, Nana plaza seems close and in honesty I am after simplicity so should that be on FiwFans or on the streets.
Thanks for your advise, any other advise for a first timer in BKK is always appreaicted.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2845369]For your first visit, I would keep the visit very simple. I doubt you're spending more than a week in BBK with your wife. I would stick to the Nana plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Thermae Cafe. It might be.
More expensive, but it requires much less effort.
There's also massage shops on soi 23 (make a left out of Soi Cowboy, walk about 5 minutes and a bunch of massage shops on your right). These can also be cheap options. I usually pay 1500 total for the HR massage + CFS. But I personally don't think 2000 baht is bad for a newbie who's never negotiated in BKK before. These MP girls don't usually like to kiss, so it's usually not the most GFE session.
If you're set on FiwFans, just remember it requires quite a bit of planning and research. You'll need to check the profiles, see if they're nearby, check their reviews, check the reviewers' profiles to see if they're legit, etc. It pays off really well, as I've had some amazing GFE sessions. But it does require quite a bit of time initially. And as you can see, people like Nyezhov get turned off by it. I did initially, too. Until I gave it a second, more serious attempt.[/QUOTE]
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Average massage will be 200-300 baht per HR in Bangkok. Oil massage will usually cost about 300-500. This is what they normally want you to get if you want full service (sex). If there is no written price above 2000, you will need to negotiate with the girl. If you had more time, I'd suggest negotiating down to 1000-1500 for the girl. Since you're only staying 5 days, with wife in tow, I think you'll have an easy time with 2000.
The massage shops with prices listed at above 2000 usually include full service and body to body massage. If you want, you can confirm with the receptionist. There's always a receptionist / mamasan to welcome you and ask you who you want. Make sure to tell her you want to see the ladies first. She'll bring them out and give you a lineup. Feel free to walk out if you don't see anything you like.
If you read through this forum, you should see a soi (street) with a bunch of full service massage shops. Maybe soi 26 near prom phong bts station.
[QUOTE=SamSam2;2845503]At MickeyDuck1208 Thanks buddy ill see you in the transit lounge.
At SinfullyKorean. Thanks for the advise, you are right its a trip of 5 days with my wife. Being a newbie in BKK I probably don't know the ways here but I have mongered in other parts of the world and its been good fun, hopefully I can get around what you pay. Just a question which sound a little stupid. I've seen places like Dream Massage which adverise I think 3000, does that include the girls tip? What is a general massage around and I assume you negociate with the girl in the shop?
I am after simlicity as my wife won't know what I am upto (I hope not) and being at the conrad, Nana plaza seems close and in honesty I am after simplicity so should that be on FiwFans or on the streets.
Thanks for your advise, any other advise for a first timer in BKK is always appreaicted.[/QUOTE]