Seoul

[QUOTE=Rick Rock]Should have been 130,000 won. Missed the 1 key.

I cannot be 100% sure since I didn't partake, but he's a fairly trust worthy guy and I believe what he says. He said he got the HJ from her, not self applied.

Heard from another Gyeonsangnam-do native Korean guy that he received HJ in a kiss bang a year back in Seoul too.[/QUOTE]

W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?

An hour of basically GFE, kissing, roaming with HJ finish. I could see how it would be worth it if you're into that. Especially when you consider that people blow much more than that in strip clubs in a few minutes in the states, or spend around the same for decent massage with HJ finish in places like NYC.

If you're not interested that's fine. Just passing on the info.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?[/QUOTE]Perhaps that appeals to some people, not everyone enjoys the crap on the hill.

[QUOTE=Kimchikid]Perhaps that appeals to some people, not everyone enjoys the crap on the hill.[/QUOTE]

By all means to each his own; but there's crap everywhere; the gift is finding the pearls in the muddy water.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?[/QUOTE]Indeed, why bother for that price when you can get essentially the same thing at almost half the price at hand job/sports massage places.

I doubt this list is up to date but anyway if you can figure out the Korean here's a start to find hand job places (not the older twin barber pole places) in your neighborhood:

[url]http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=08Fmp&articleno=11961785#ajax_history_home[/url]

Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP’s and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).

Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play “challenge” games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable (“losing face”), and won’t return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e.g. watch out for foreigners, he’s a player, etc. etc.). She doesn’t respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).

Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e.g. take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing “cute” games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn’t wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).

Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]So, now the forum has become little more than a soapbox from which to wave your dick and pound your chest in post-coital triumphalism. No genuinely useful info, given not only the lack of names but even exact locations. No blame to RR, though. Instead, congrats to the no game losers who told the girls about the forum; they are the real losers, anyway, since some of us already have the knowledge.[/QUOTE]It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.

[QUOTE=Lunchmeat]It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.[/QUOTE]

Said the single post wonder. LOL

And, for the record, I have contributed re other venues, notably the Seollung corridor anmas, which (as I've noted) I also pretty much avoid because of the inconvenience and the low likely of getting admitted as a foreigner. I make no apology for trying to give informative info about various Hill providers. Of course, even an apparent donkey like you can get laid there by taping a couple of hundred to its forehead, but many of us would prefer to know who the providers are that have higher standards, better looks and superior service. It's clear from your (non) contributions that you don't have a clue.

Oh, and by all means feel free to simply ignore my posts if they aren't up to your non-existent standards; they really aren't intended for leeches like you anyway.

Holy Shit.

I can't believe that that stuff happens.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).

Example A:

Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play "challenge" games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ("losing face"), and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).

Example B:

Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing "cute" games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).

Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target "lose face". In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can't figure out to counteract this one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).

Example A:

Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play "challenge" games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ("losing face"), and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).

Example B:

Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing "cute" games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).

Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target "lose face". In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can't figure out to counteract this one.[/QUOTE]I fight back by giving them equally as intimidating looks, ask them what they hell they are looking at and usually they are so embarrassed they leave me alone and I am free to continue with my conversations, although, in bars isa completely different story.

Went to yongsan rld the other day. Had a good time with one of the girls in the A row. After we finished she gave me her number. Just want to ask, do girls at rld's usually give their phone numbers out?

BTW she told me starting next week yongsan rld will be no more.

[QUOTE=Eric Mun]Went to yongsan rld the other day. Had a good time with one of the girls in the A row. After we finished she gave me her number. Just want to ask, do girls at rld's usually give their phone numbers out?

BTW she told me starting next week yongsan rld will be no more.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do. They would probably rather do it with a repeat customer than a complete stranger. The number makes it easier for that to happen. I've text before going to the RLD to make sure that a girl was working that day. It's useful in that way but don't expect this is going to something more. Hard to get a reply on time and often they don't pick up the phone if they're not working on that day.

Personally i think the number they give you is just their "working" number maybe lent to them by the mamasan.

[QUOTE=Lunchmeat]It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.[/QUOTE]
Everyone, listen to the non-contributing zero here.

[QUOTE=Coitus68]Everyone, listen to the non-contributing zero here.[/QUOTE]

Maybe we shouldn't forget the silent chorus of his imagwinawy fwiends, either.
;)

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP’s and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).

Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play “challenge” games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable (“losing face”), and won’t return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e.g. watch out for foreigners, he’s a player, etc. etc.). She doesn’t respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).

Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e.g. take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing “cute” games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn’t wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).

Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.[/QUOTE]

Bunch of insecure punk asses. Oh the constant fear of the big bad westerner!.