Carnival & New Year in Rio. Off season carrnaval
[QUOTE=Potemkin]I asked this question on the Carnival Forum, but nobody replied there (that Forum seems dead, at least at this time). And than again, I admit, it is a silly question...
Well, my question was about Rio, so let me ask it here as well. I have a chance of visiting Rio during the Carnival; yet I do not have to go during that time, can find some other time to visit. I would like someone who is familiar with Rio and its Carnival tell me: is it worth trying to visit during the Carnival? I would like to meet the girls, of course. Will it be more difficult at that time? Is everything much more expensive and more difficult? Is the Carnival REALLY special, or just a lot of niusance?[/QUOTE]
During carnival everything is much more expensive. Hotels, apartments, etc.
Availability of paid girls outside tourist trap termas is very low (escort agencies, and many cheap brothels, massage parlors etc close for almost a week, I believe).
If you have great game, good portuguese, look great, dance good, know people you can group up with and know how to avoid trouble with drunk and jealous guys: you have a better chance then usual at scoring with normal girls.
Otherwise (I am talking against my self interest in renting rooms during peak season for twice the price), for a monger there is no reason to come during carnival or New Year's. It is just if you want to see the parades and events, not good for mongering.
If you want great carnival without the disadvantes, google "off season carnival" "micareta", carnaval fora de epoca, carnatal, carnabelem, fortal, micareta, etc.
Copacabana cheaper termas
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]I am just updating my guide. Just wondering if anyone has been to the following places. I intend to visit them all but would like some input before going. Anyone been and can say it is decent or a train wreck?
Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana nº 583 (street number)
Sala 203 Price - ?
Sale 204 Price - ?
Sala 209 Price - ?
Rua Tonelero, nº 169. Copacabana. (Copa Massagem). 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price R$ ?
Rua Toneleros nº 171 (near Siquiera Campos). Copacabana. 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price – ?
Rua Toneleros nº 173 (near Siquiera Campos). Copacabana. 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price – ?[/QUOTE]
Am I so uninformed: half of these places in my own back yard I have never heard of? 583/209? there is another place at 209? tell me more! There is a huge hooter girl at 11 floor (she has a photo ad somewhere and needs prior appointment), but a third place at 2nd floor?
583/204, 22, and the only place I know at Toneleiros belong all to the same family (brothers) and have the same pricing, except for 22 charging R$ 12 for admission for 3 drinks (R$ 20more for gringos). Brazilian prices are 20 min R$ 55 (girls are a little unhappy and they usually totally refuse such prices to gringos), 30 minuts R$ 75, 40 min R$ 95 and 1 hour R$ 125.
It is almost impossible to escape higher gringo pricing (R$ 100 and up for half hour). I keep arguing and fighting for my friends and usually get R$ 75 for half hour for them. If all fails, negotiate a longer time, but for the correct price. Like 40 minutes for R$ 100 which is just R$ 5 above regular pricing.
Never, never ever allow a tout to take you or to even accompany you to these places, or your pricing is doomed!!
583/203 has prices posted on the wall, nowadays they are covered but anyone can ask to get them uncovered. A very quiet, cleaner place with very few girls and a bit higher pricing (minimum should be a little ofer R$ 100)
Personally I never found anything really good at Toneleiros. Now there are 3 bars one next to each other? Really? how do I recgnize them? I never knew about this!