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RK, please don't discourage them. I've had some wild an inexpensive adventures with women who weren't quite happy with the dalliances of their main man.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1269325]I am bemused why guys who have already embraced a "mongering lifestyle" are contemplating getting married whilst, I presume, they will still wish to continue their dalliances on the side.
T.[/QUOTE]
Hi RK,
Are you married? Well, I have never been and perhaps never will but if I do 1) she might make an honest man out of me and 2) we might have a baby or two. Mongering is great but there is something to be said for companionship and domesticity. Then again perhaps it will be an "open" marriage if / when it happens. All my married friends say don't do it because it is never what you think it will be. Maybe they are right. Maybe I will just live with her but I want to buy property in Valencia and build a custom-designed dreamhouse there so maybe it will be a marriage of convenience. I figure I have another ten years of fooling around before I settle down and retire.
Regards
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1269325]I am bemused why guys who have already embraced a "mongering lifestyle" are contemplating getting married whilst, I presume, they will still wish to continue their dalliances on the side.
I am including D Cups and Tally W here, both of whom seem to be searching for a woman to marry.
If the intention is to find the sweet, wholesome, tall, well-educated, intelligent woman to marry but then to still continue playing behind her back without her knowing, then I have to ask why you plan to marry? If either or both of TW or DC plans to "settle down" with this "ideal woman" and give up their current lifestyle, then that's another story.
If the woman accepts you fooling around, then why get married? Just live with her (I assume you will see it as OK for her to go out alone too?)
If she is NOT accepting of you fooling around and you make fake promises to her, then that seems like two-timing and dishonest activity to me and a deliberate plan of deception.
There are 1000s of married mongers who would relish having the freedom that unmarried guys have, and yet here we have a few of these single guys looking to marry but, it seems, not to settle down.
As I said earlier, I am bemused by it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1268624]I'm looking for girls that have regular jobs, college degree a plus, not a large poor family to support, speaks english fairly well, very pretty, tall would be nice and has a good combination of naughty and nice.[/QUOTE]These ladies exist. But I'm not sure they exist for you (or me). They are rare. She will either have a regular job, or she's middle-class or above and from a family that provides what she needs. She will not be looking for kano, and she is not looking to relocate away from her family. She will have younger / gwapo / wealthy pinoy suitors. The only reason a pinay chooses the wealthier kano is for financial support for herself and her family. The girl you mention is already in demand from the local wealth.
TW, look at the odds of finding:
Regular job: 30% (maybe). Add in:
College degree: down to 8 percent. Add in:
Not a large family to support: down to 1 percent. Add in:
Speaks good english: down to 0.2 percent. Add in:
Tall: down to 0.02 percent. Add in:
Nawty / Nice: well, you get the picture.
The dating site is not where to find this girl.
Gents?
Hi WC, factor in big boobs and it is probably. 002.
In view of this, I am not opposed to buying her some nice big bolt-ons. There are good plastic surgeons in Cebu. Man, would I like to see the before and after pictures in his office hahahahahahaha.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1269424]These ladies exist. But I'm not sure they exist for you (or me). They are rare. She will either have a regular job, or she's middle-class or above and from a family that provides what she needs. She will not be looking for kano, and she is not looking to relocate away from her family. She will have younger / gwapo / wealthy pinoy suitors. The only reason a pinay chooses the wealthier kano is for financial support for herself and her family. The girl you mention is already in demand from the local wealth.
TW, look at the odds of finding:
Regular job: 30% (maybe). Add in:
College degree: down to 8 percent. Add in:
Not a large family to support: down to 1 percent. Add in:
Speaks good english: down to 0. 2 percent. Add in:
Tall: down to 0. 02 percent. Add in:
Nawty / Nice: well, you get the picture.
The dating site is not where to find this girl.
Gents?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1269424]These ladies exist. But I'm not sure they exist for you (or me). They are rare. She will either have a regular job, or she's middle-class or above and from a family that provides what she needs. She will not be looking for kano, and she is not looking to relocate away from her family. She will have younger / gwapo / wealthy pinoy suitors. The only reason a pinay chooses the wealthier kano is for financial support for herself and her family. The girl you mention is already in demand from the local wealth.
TW, look at the odds of finding:
Regular job: 30% (maybe). Add in:
College degree: down to 8 percent. Add in:
Not a large family to support: down to 1 percent. Add in:
Speaks good english: down to 0. 2 percent. Add in:
Tall: down to 0. 02 percent. Add in:
Nawty / Nice: well, you get the picture.
The dating site is not where to find this girl.
Gents?[/QUOTE]Seriously there are quite a few girls who wish to go to western countries specifically USA. Even the rich girls.
Question is are they willing to marry and go with anybody over 50 years of age?
1. Regular job- Jobs in Phi are on contract basis only. Why? Because there are too many unemployed and practically many are real lazy.
If they are given permanent jobs they will be more lazy.
If you are going to marry a girl and take her to your countery, you do not care if she has a job. If you live in Phi after getting married she will not even bother looking for a job and expect you to support her-Rich cano.
2. College degree- Good percentage have college degrees. Does not really mean they know the subject.
But if you are marrying and taking her to your country she definitely have to have some employable college degree.
Otherwise only jobs they will get is low paying fast food joints or restaurents and such.
If you are going to live in Phi- follow no. 1.
3. Everybody in Phi has a large family. Usually around 7-12 children.
I was lucky to get a gf from Baybay whose family only two girls. My current gf from ormoc also only two girls. Current gf works very hard holding two jobs. Since small family needs are small, so no real demands.
Poor or middle class, the fact that daughter married to a real or percieved rich kano means all hands are out for donation.
Family bonds are very strong and consequently it hard for the girl to ignore the requests.
If she works she can do whatever she wants with her money. However I know Phi people living here in USA who are calculative in sending money to their family.
4. Nowadays most speak fairly good english even from the remote provinces. I have dated quite a few. Only girls who has limited knowledge are the ones who never went to school.
5. Generally Phi girls are short. Very few are tall in the range of 5, 4 to 5, 7.
6. Every girl is different. Only after you meet the girl will know if she is right for you. Even then nothing is guaranteed. Statistics say 50% divorce rate. So be what may down the road.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1269424]These ladies exist. But I'm not sure they exist for you (or me). They are rare.
Gents?[/QUOTE]On a free dating site, they are about 1 in 1000. In civilian life however there plenty of these ladies if you are willing to look for them.
I had a regular gf who was everything TW is describing. College educated, well paid job, young, tall, very intelligent, outgoing, naughty and nice.
I considered marrying, but ultimately realised my mongering addiction will not lead to a happy marriage. She wasnt the sharing type.
Hiding a womanising habit from an intelligent wife is first of all dishonest and second, very stressful. So many things to hide. You need a second phone, another apartment, you have to constantly be wary of scheduling clashes, be wary of rogue tagged photos ending up on facebook, be wary of friends of friends of your mistresses who might know your wife, constantly careful not to leave evidence around, and girls have an amazing ability to drop their stuff everywhere. Hairpins in your car, earrings on your sofa, girly shampoo satchels in your bathroom, bras in your closet, and HAIR, the everpresent long black hair everywhere, they shed kilograms of the stuff and never go bald! Its on your clothes, its on your car seat, its on your armchair, its in your bathroom, I mean, who has time to do all the cleanup and scheduling and shuffling, I got a full time job to do.
Its not worth it!
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1269424]These ladies exist. But I'm not sure they exist for you (or me). They are rare. She will either have a regular job, or she's middle-class or above and from a family that provides what she needs. She will not be looking for kano, and she is not looking to relocate away from her family. She will have younger / gwapo / wealthy pinoy suitors. The only reason a pinay chooses the wealthier kano is for financial support for herself and her family. The girl you mention is already in demand from the local wealth.
TW, look at the odds of finding:
Regular job: 30% (maybe). Add in:
College degree: down to 8 percent. Add in:
Not a large family to support: down to 1 percent. Add in:
Speaks good english: down to 0. 2 percent. Add in:
Tall: down to 0. 02 percent. Add in:
Nawty / Nice: well, you get the picture.
The dating site is not where to find this girl.
Gents?[/QUOTE]Anyone thinking of importing a pinay wife should ask himself if he can find and marry a pretty younger woman with all the desired qualities in his homeland. If he cannot then he would be unable to keep an imported version of the same woman around once her paperwork is finalized. Her perception of the relationship will change once she arrives in America where lonely middle aged men are a dime a dozen and big age differences are not the norm.
Absolutely brilliant summary FBA,
You nailed it beautifully.
Great summary. I am totally supporting your post.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1269447]Hiding a womanising habit from an intelligent wife is first of all dishonest and second, very stressful. So many things to hide. You need a second phone, another apartment, you have to constantly be wary of scheduling clashes, be wary of rogue tagged photos ending up on facebook, be wary of friends of friends of your mistresses who might know your wife, constantly careful not to leave evidence around, and girls have an amazing ability to drop their stuff everywhere. Hairpins in your car, earrings on your sofa, girly shampoo satchels in your bathroom, bras in your closet, and HAIR, the everpresent long black hair everywhere, they shed kilograms of the stuff and never go bald! Its on your clothes, its on your car seat, its on your armchair, its in your bathroom, I mean, who has time to do all the cleanup and scheduling and shuffling, I got a full time job to do.
Its not worth it![/QUOTE]
TW, these women are available. I think that most of the posters here are missing the whole middle class in their comments, and are not thinking clearly.
I had one such woman as gf for 2 years.
Parents owned a good rice farm, so self sufficient.
She was college educated, smart, intelligent, well spoken.
Tall, about 5'6", maybe 5'7", very slim, hard body.
Good job in middle management in an IT wholesale business. She was the warehouse manager.
Not sexually experienced when we met, but she was keen to learn.
Did not cost me a cent in maintenance, she paid her way, and the family needed nothing from me.
Lovely people to stay with.
So they are there.
I am currently courting a similar woman, family owns a large rice and vegetable farm, she is farm manager. 5'7", not as skinny as I prefer, but OK.
So these women are available.
But both are / were near to 30 yo, and no family would let their son marry a woman as old as that. So these women basically have only foreigners available to them for permanent / long term relationship.
G.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker; 1268624]Well I know how to find pussy, thats easier than finding a good restaurant. LOL.
I'm ultimately looking for a potential wife.
I'm well aware there are scammers and bitches on all the dating sites. And there are even good girls on dia. You just need to weed them out and of course go to Phil and spend as much time as possible with them. I do not have the ability to live in Phil. I will bring them to the USA to live.
I am also well aware of the pitfalls of bringing a girl to the USA but I'm willing to take those chances.
I'm looking for girls that have regular jobs, college degree a plus, not a large poor family to support, speaks english fairly well, very pretty, tall would be nice and has a good combination of naughty and nice.
I scanned over profiles in Cherryblossoms but have not signed up yet. It looks like a higher quality of girls than dia on there. Does anyone have expierience with Cherryblossoms or Filipinocupid?
Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]
fba, all animal species have their way of marking their territory.
dogs mark their boundary with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], which others can smell.
a woman marks her territory by dropping hair.
for those guys using st or lt p4p, this is not so much of a problem, because the female does not see his space as being part of her territory, so she does not drop hair.
but if you have a woman into your space who sees you as a potential mate, then she will begin to mark your space as her territory. she will drop hair all over your place, not intentionally, but subconsciously. so if you are running a couple of gf, overlapping day-by-day, or within hours, then you have a problem.
every woman's hair is different. colour, thickness, curl, cross section, length. a woman can recognise her hair, or that of another woman, from some distance away. and you have a hard time explaining how the foreign hair got to be there.
when i am switching women, i get on my hands and knees, glasses on, with a big pin. and i go over the floor in detail, bath, bed, sheets, pillows. and i get a remarkable amount of hair dropped in a short periiod of time.
i dispose of it outside the window, or flush down the toilet. get rid of it so that it cannot be found.
always a hassle.
g.
[quote=fast buck artist; 1269447]on a free dating site, they are about 1 in 1000. in civilian life however there plenty of these ladies if you are willing to look for them.
i had a regular gf who was everything tw is describing. college educated, well paid job, young, tall, very intelligent, outgoing, naughty and nice.
i considered marrying, but ultimately realised my mongering addiction will not lead to a happy marriage. she wasnt the sharing type.
hiding a womanising habit from an intelligent wife is first of all dishonest and second, very stressful. so many things to hide. you need a second phone, another apartment, you have to constantly be wary of scheduling clashes, be wary of rogue tagged photos ending up on facebook, be wary of friends of friends of your mistresses who might know your wife, constantly careful not to leave evidence around, and girls have an amazing ability to drop their stuff everywhere. hairpins in your car, earrings on your sofa, girly shampoo satchels in your bathroom, bras in your closet, and hair, the everpresent long black hair everywhere, they shed kilograms of the stuff and never go bald! its on your clothes, its on your car seat, its on your armchair, its in your bathroom, i mean, who has time to do all the cleanup and scheduling and shuffling, i got a full time job to do.
its not worth it![/quote]
I would say that the Philippines is probably any man's best bet for finding a wife. The problem is when your criteria is unrealistic. The chances of ANY man finding a woman that meets all his expectations is low. Now men will be men and looks are important to us, it's just the way it is. But what happens when you wife has that first kid and the body changes and trust me it will change, weight stretch marks you name it. So finding a smart attractive women is very possible in the Phils. Now on to an open relationship, all the things we love about the pinay women is counter intuitive to this practice. So one have to ask themselves why is one getting married? If its strictly for companionship and sex I think most reasonable men would advise against it. Marriage as an entity has been established since the dawn of civilization for the family. So bringing these practices to a general conservative culture (Filipino) and to a marriage is begging for disaster. You risk losing your wife's respect and at a minimum your wife to another man. If you do persist in this pursuit you would do much better with a western woman accustom to those practices. Again I would advise against it and would say that your not ready for marriage.
I feel your pain. They also leave toothbrushes, cosmetics, underwear, etc. I think this is what we call "nesting". You got to hide that until their next visit. The worst time I got busted was a thing you would never dream of forgetting to hide. A friggin photo. Duh. X.
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1269595]FBA, All animal species have their way of marking their territory.
A woman marks her territory by dropping hair.
SNIP.
I dispose of it outside the window, or flush down the toilet. Get rid of it so that it cannot be found.
Always a hassle.
G.[/QUOTE]
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I spend a lot of time in Asia but I'm just getting my feet wet in Phils. I'm slowly getting the idea that this is a strange world where no rules I know apply. This ain't China, or Japan, or Korea.
Story #1: I got to know a pretty girl on DIA. We talked a few times on cam with all her friends around, anxious to flirt and joke with the gringo. She pursues me actively, sending messages or video chats a couple of times a day. She promises to spend a couple of days and nights with me when I arrive. A few days pass and I don't hear from her. I discover that she unfriended me from FB and on her page there are prominent photos of a guy that obviously is her bf. I send her a note saying looks like you found a new bf, I understand, etc. She writes me a tearful message about how guilty she feels. Bf is away and she never told me about him. Np, I say, enjoy your life. A few hours later I receive another panicked message. No, you don't understand, just don't post on FB where bf can see. She will contact me through I'm and still wants to see me. Please, please, you are special to me! So. Despite absent bf, she takes out an ad in DIA, starts relationship with new guy, promises to see him, gets found out, and STILL wants to see him behind the BF's back. And I'm supposed to be ok with this. I don't quite get the motivation. Loneliness, thrills, money? Anyway, makes me feel sorry for the bf. And I wonder how many other guys are in her hopper besides me.
Story #2: Strike up nice relationship with another pretty lady on DIA. Lives with extended family in an apartment. Really funny, smart lady. She writes me an email today that some robbers broke in and stole computer, camera, purse, money, all the food in the fridge, her makeup, etc. She is especially concerned that they thieves stole the camera. On this camera are sexy photos of her cousin and she's worried that they will show up on the internet I get the idea that these are nude shots. So, one cousin keeps sexy photos of another cousin on her camera? And the cousin's mother knows all about it. I just don't have anywhere in my head to put that.
I'm sure these stories are just old hat to you veterans. You probably have a thousand more.
[QUOTE=Wazoo; 1270114]I spend a lot of time in Asia but I'm just getting my feet wet in Phils. I'm slowly getting the idea that this is a strange world where no rules I know apply. This ain't China, or Japan, or Korea.
Story #1: I got to know a pretty girl on DIA. We talked a few times on cam with all her friends around, anxious to flirt and joke with the gringo. She pursues me actively, sending messages or video chats a couple of times a day. She promises to spend a couple of days and nights with me when I arrive. A few days pass and I don't hear from her. I discover that she unfriended me from FB and on her page there are prominent photos of a guy that obviously is her bf. I send her a note saying looks like you found a new bf, I understand, etc. She writes me a tearful message about how guilty she feels. Bf is away and she never told me about him. Np, I say, enjoy your life. A few hours later I receive another panicked message. No, you don't understand, just don't post on FB where bf can see. She will contact me through I'm and still wants to see me. Please, please, you are special to me! So. Despite absent bf, she takes out an ad in DIA, starts relationship with new guy, promises to see him, gets found out, and STILL wants to see him behind the BF's back. And I'm supposed to be ok with this. I don't quite get the motivation. Loneliness, thrills, money? Anyway, makes me feel sorry for the bf. And I wonder how many other guys are in her hopper besides me.
Story #2: Strike up nice relationship with another pretty lady on DIA. Lives with extended family in an apartment. Really funny, smart lady. She writes me an email today that some robbers broke in and stole computer, camera, purse, money, all the food in the fridge, her makeup, etc. She is especially concerned that they thieves stole the camera. On this camera are sexy photos of her cousin and she's worried that they will show up on the internet I get the idea that these are nude shots. So, one cousin keeps sexy photos of another cousin on her camera? And the cousin's mother knows all about it. I just don't have anywhere in my head to put that.
I'm sure these stories are just old hat to you veterans. You probably have a thousand more.[/QUOTE]EVERY women that you meet on DIA and the rest of these dating sites from the Philippines want something from you or us. All of them there is no exception, any women fat, skinny or ugly can get a man. So you have attractive 19 and above Pinay's, why would they be single? What they want is either someone to support them in exchange for their sex or time or their looking for a better deal, their not going to completely drop their pinoy boyfriends for a few dollars and promises. Even if you marry one it's quite possible that she'll be having sex with other men until you make good on your deal, which in most cases is to get her to your country of origin and to help support her family. The question I asked is should you care? I certainly don't. The problem is male naivete and lack of preparation. Understand your situation when your dealing with desperate people and prepare for the worst (lies, cheating, scams). If you ever had a pinay gf or wife you know they lie like a rug, doesn't mean their bad people but their going to do or say anything to save face. She probably likes you just fine, take her up on her offer and have a good time. I had a pinay tell me she didn't have a boyfriend and hadn't had sex in 3 years, I never for once believed her but I allowed her to keep up her masquerade and once she figured out she wasn't the only lady I came to see, her jealousy showed and she told me she had a boyfriend 25 years her senior that's a lawyer that's been taking care of her. We had some drinks laughed about our dual deception and had another great sex session that evening.