Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=Villainy;2794979]If you have common sense (or call it street smarts) you improve your chances exponentially.[/QUOTE]The two aren't the same, not even close. If someone thinks they are it pretty much proves they don't have street smarts. Research it.

Keep in mind this is the same guy that thinks kidnappers are sure to let you go if your bank account shows empty at the ATM receipt. That's without considering that the criminals may be well aware that many Americans have replenish accounts. This also ignores the fact that many kidnappers may want to make a witness disappear. Thus many professionals suggest that at the beginning of such a situation it's best that you fight for your life as it likely will be your last chance to.

And it's the same guy that assumes that when when a girl posts pics of themselves at nice hotels that they've found "wealthy clients. " That's even though in the Colombian or Mexican economies any American working stiff can afford to take girls to such places. Thus we have a guy without "street smarts" that probably should have his passport seized for his own safety.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2796920]Hey jjbe there's this Asian guy on YouTube goes by the name of 420 jon69, he thinks we are idiots for going all the way to Colombia instead of just going to Tijuana.

For the longest time he lived in Asia and people kept telling him to visit Tijuana and he kept blowing it off because he believed nothing would beat where he was currently at until he finally went and now he lives in Tijuana and loves it.

But what's funny is that he says Colombia isn't worth checking out because he knows it doesn't compare to Tijuana LOL.

I just think that's hilarious. Maybe he reads this. I would be surprised if he's not on ISG.[/QUOTE]Sounds like he's a slow learner.

There is no "better" or "best" when it comes to cities or parts of cities, although there are bad and worse. It's all a matter of what appeals to each person.

If I'm going to write an opinion about something, then I'm going to experience it first, really experience it, and not just take a quick look around and pass judgment. I get annoyed at "experts" who've never experienced the things they are putting down. I also get annoyed at people who put others down over things which don't involve them and are none of their business.

Add to my "things that annoy me" list, people who insist their way is best for everyone. Everyone has to find their own way. I've spent a lot of time looking at and trying just about every way. I've found what works for me, depending on my current mood. If someone asks for advice, I ask questions. There's no sense in steering them towards something which doesn't appeal to them.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2797060]Sounds like he's a slow learner.

There is no "better" or "best" when it comes to cities or parts of cities, although there are bad and worse. It's all a matter of what appeals to each person.

If I'm going to write an opinion about something, then I'm going to experience it first, really experience it, and not just take a quick look around and pass judgment. I get annoyed at "experts" who've never experienced the things they are putting down. I also get annoyed at people who put others down over things which don't involve them and are none of their business.

Add to my "things that annoy me" list, people who insist their way is best for everyone. Everyone has to find their own way. I've spent a lot of time looking at and trying just about every way. I've found what works for me, depending on my current mood. If someone asks for advice, I ask questions. There's no sense in steering them towards something which doesn't appeal to them.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Well than the same can be said for those who put down others who don't mind paying higher prices. They get so worked up about it. Like you said let them be. Would be better if people would instead just give each other advice instead of just going straight to attacking each other. I guess people get bored sometimes. It's fine, I welcome anyone who wants the smoke too LOL. "Smoke" meaning drama, beef, fighting for you old heads.

Anyone feel the earthquake in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2796886]You need to keep my fucking name out of your mouth bro! And for the record I don't do drugs, I don't even smoke weed anymore. I go to Centro for many reasons, cheap putas I'll admit is one of those reasons but not drugs.

I've been coming to Colombia since 2018 and living on and off in Medellin since 2021. I got my cheap apartment in my "shitty barrio" as you call it last summer and I love it here.

Centro for me, besides when I'm looking for sex, is like the heart of the city, bustling with people going on about their daily lives. Whether I'm just sitting down at Parque San Antonio drinking a coffee watching people walk by, whether I need to go to a ferreteria to pick up a shower head or a saw to cut wood for shelving in my apartment, it can all be done in Centro. Not to mention my favorite fried chicken place at the bottom of the coultejer tower or the taco place on la playa. I also go shopping there for kitchen ware at this store called hogar why decor; they have great deals there. So no thr allure of Centro is not just cheap putas or drugs.

Maybe you should know what your talking about before you open you mouth Boy. Also I've been in many other "centros" all over Colombia, Bogota, Cucuta, Cali, Santa Marta, Bucaramanga, Melgar, Villavicencio, so I think I know alot more about "el centro" than you ever will.[/QUOTE]Whatever you said in your post has nothing to do with an average gringo monger. Visitors do not go to El Centro to pick up a shower head, kitchen ware or a saw to cut wood. Other parts of town have their own taco places, burger joints, fruit stands, and fried chicken places, and I doubt those you find in El Centro are any better (cheaper, yes) and worth spending time in traffic. Any major city, not only in Colombia, has downtown where you see people of all walks of life. No need to leave NY, Chicago or San Francisco to see people hustling and bustling.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2797055]The two aren't the same, not even close. If someone thinks they are it pretty much proves they don't have street smarts. Research it.

Keep in mind this is the same guy that thinks kidnappers are sure to let you go if your bank account shows empty at the ATM receipt. That's without considering that the criminals may be well aware that many Americans have replenish accounts. This also ignores the fact that many kidnappers may want to make a witness disappear. Thus many professionals suggest that at the beginning of such a situation it's best that you fight for your life as it likely will be your last chance to.

And it's the same guy that assumes that when when a girl posts pics of themselves at nice hotels that they've found "wealthy clients. " That's even though in the Colombian or Mexican economies any American working stiff can afford to take girls to such places. Thus we have a guy without "street smarts" that probably should have his passport seized for his own safety.[/QUOTE]Look who's back, it's the King of the Bed Bugs.

I didn't realize you were such an expert on protecting yourself in Colombia. So tell me Paulie, instead of parsing phrases, how does one go about getting "scoped" in Colombia? You see, I have lived here for years and never had the experience and neither have any of the expats in my circle.

I've always thought that a person had to be careless or worse. But you're the expert, right? You been scopalomined, so educate us?

Were you devoid of 'common sense'? Or was it that you weren't 'street smart'? Maybe you just weren't 'situationally aware'? Which was it?

What all did the person take from you? Where were you staying? Was it another one of those hostels or cheap hotels without any security that you like so much? Did you file a police report? I've heard you can't speak Spanish at all. So, how did you report your experience to the police? Did you go to a clinic or hospital to get checked out? How long were you out? Did they get your PIN number and drain your bank account?

I'm curious how the thieves could put one over on the foremost authority on bed bugs and personal safety.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2797188]Well than the same can be said for those who put down others who don't mind paying higher prices.[/QUOTE]I do not see it starting out as people putting people down who don't mind paying higher prices. What I see is people trying to school those that pay higher prices that there is no need to pay that much. Then the people that pay higher prices get prideful and defensive and say things like it is their money and the girl is better and they get better service because they are paying more. Then they end up calling the person that is trying to school them cheap and broke.

A chick was coming over last night. She told me $43 for short time and $86 for all night. I told her fuck that and that I would pay $29 for short time. She said no at first, but then said she would only stay 1 hour in that case. I said okay. She got here at 9 pm and ended up not leaving until 7 am and trying to come back tonight when she finishes work. Sure I could have paid the $86 for long time she originally offered, but I know there is no reason to throw around that kind of money here. And what would the $86 have gotten me that the $29 did not get me from the same damn chick?

Maybe it just works out for me because I have never met any pussy that I had to have so I am able to hold out and to say no. You can't miss what you never had and I do not remember the chicks over the years that I had not been able to come to an agreement with.

I get happy when someone teaches me that I could be paying less for something. Why pay more when I do not have to. It confuses me when people would rather pay more for the same thing. Like the taxis at the airport for instance. A seasoned traveler knows that the people saying taxi taxi when you arrive at the airport are going to charge exorbitantly and you can go to where taxis are dropping people off to get one for normal price. Yet there are still people who refuse to walk a few steps in order to pay half the money for the same thing.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2797235].... Other parts of town have their own taco places, burger joints, fruit stands, and fried chicken places, and I doubt those you find in El Centro are any better (cheaper, yes) and worth spending time in traffic. ....[/QUOTE]In El Centro, you interact with people, in El Poblado, you interact with corporation. In El Centrol, it's the owner making the fried chicken, espresso. They recognize you after a few visits. They are more interested in you too. You can ask for custom order easily. You see it made in front of you. Sometimes I waited in the rain with flip flops waiting for up to an hour at night because I want the fresh batch or it was just sold out. People walking by would fist bump with me for no reason. LOL. It's different type of food. I asked the owner to make the popular sauce mixture on the fries so I can learn what it is supposed to be like. Try that in a random cooperate owned places. You can have as many empanadas as you like and pay after. You basically see it made right there when you eat them and different vendor may have different home made sauce which can make a big difference. There are many unique food items simply not easy to find elsewhere. If we are just talking about Colombian food, some of the best ones are not in El Poblado or even around the area, fine dinning maybe, but that's not really Colombian food IMO.

It is a place that fruits and vegetables are often sold by pile or bag, not by weight. Several times I gave the owner a choice of taking bills or taking a bunch of coins and bill I have. They would take the coins and didn't even count it while knowing it is less than what I should pay. I bought two bad melons one time without checking. I brought it back the next day to get an exchange without receipt because there is none.

It's also a place people go to socialize. You can see many people dancing under the metro even for today in the rain.

I don't know why you and Elvis seem to overreact and just fire your counterattack aimlessly like others when you both seem very experience and intelligent elsewhere. Even if you think people are attacking you but did you notice they actually spend time writing posts with substance trying to help you understand?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797418].... Why pay more when I do not have to. It confuses me when people would rather pay more for the same thing. ....[/QUOTE]I think for me, many things you said took me out of my comfort zone but that is where I learned. Same thing when posting Spanish conversation, I felt embarrassed at times but that is also because I learned from the mistakes pointed out by members.

This is with a girl who I think is very hot but she is kind of under the radar that is why I picked her. I knew she would be expensive that is why I started at a slightly higher price and she accepted it which is much lower than she usually gets without much problem after I told her my reason. I expect her to make effort to earn my business. I doubt one will get better service from her by paying her double the amount.

I know I represent a sample size of one, but I recently completed fifty years of mongering so within that sample size of one monger is an "and" of well over a thousand hookers. If I were to run a regression analysis to determine the correlation of the price I have paid for hookers to the quality of service I received, I'm quite confident the "are" would be statistically indistinguishable from zero. Oh and I never got robbed or scoped while mongering. One time I was getting a blow job in a doorway in Barrio Xine in Barcelona and a guy came up with a knife but I just ran with my dick hanging out. I have gone back and forth over the years, whether the hooker was involved, but my gut tells me no. So I don't know if I am street smart or have common sense or maybe my luck has not run out yet. I have mongered in El Centro, Santa Fe, Bocatorena, etc. But also higher end brothels in Europe. And when I was living in Argentina, I mongered at pretty much every possible level. The one thing I know is, you never know, and all these generalizations being made by some of the callow youths on this board just don't hold any water.

[QUOTE=SdesChain19;2797213]Anyone feel the earthquake in Medellin?[/QUOTE]It felt pretty smooth. And I thought I was dreaming. I don't know what time it was because I had two chicas with me until 4 in the morning.

The chica brought a non pro bisexual friend with her. But I think I turned her into a pro because I paid her while I did not pay the pro at the same time. LOL.

The non pro left her panty at my place and I left it on the table. They came again Saturday night but with her lesbian girlfriend which caught me by surprise and I had to rush to hide the panty as I wasn't sure how open are they.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797418]I do not see it starting out as people putting people down who don't mind paying higher prices. What I see is people trying to school those that pay higher prices that there is no need to pay that much. Then the people that pay higher prices get prideful and defensive and say things like it is their money and the girl is better and they get better service because they are paying more. Then they end up calling the person that is trying to school them cheap and broke.

A chick was coming over last night. She told me $43 for short time and $86 for all night. I told her fuck that and that I would pay $29 for short time. She said no at first, but then said she would only stay 1 hour in that case. I said okay. She got here at 9 pm and ended up not leaving until 7 am and trying to come back tonight when she finishes work. Sure I could have paid the $86 for long time she originally offered, but I know there is no reason to throw around that kind of money here. And what would the $86 have gotten me that the $29 did not get me from the same damn chick?

Maybe it just works out for me because I have never met any pussy that I had to have so I am able to hold out and to say no. You can't miss what you never had and I do not remember the chicks over the years that I had not been able to come to an agreement with..[/QUOTE]I've always said that whatever you're comfortable with paying, pay it. It's just the rationalization that is silly. "She charges more because she recognizes her value. " Nope. Chances are most of her customers pay 1/3 of the price she throws out to a gringo. She charges more to see if she can land a sucker.

It's just a game. When I lived in San Diego I wanted a chess set, so I went looking in Tijuana. First guy wanted $75. I walked away. 15 minutes later I paid $12 for the $75 chess set and the guy still made a good profit. I had budgeted $25, so everyone was happy.

In the end, once a price has been reached, 50% or more of her performance depends on you, not on the price.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2797438] it's the owner making the fried chicken, espresso. They recognize you after a few visits. They are more interested in you too. You can ask for custom order easily. You see it made in front of you. Sometimes I waited in the rain with flip flops waiting for up to an hour at night because I want the fresh batch or it was just sold out.

It's also a place people go to socialize. You can see many people dancing under the metro even for today in the rain.

I don't know why you and Elvis seem to overreact and just fire your counterattack aimlessly like others when you both seem very experience and intelligent elsewhere. Even if you think people are attacking you but did you notice they actually spend time writing posts with substance trying to help you understand?[/QUOTE]I guess you want my comments seeing as how you keep bringing me up, Nounce. Yeah, I agree with you that the Medellin morons are the problem then and not Miami Boy nor me if you look at other forums, but the issue is not that we are the problem but how the forums have been moderated and that the Medellin section is a fucking mess. It is an embarrassment to what ISG was supposed to be about.

The forum was founded on the philosophy that money was the greatest aphrodisiac. There was the notion that paying for sex was not something to be ashamed of, but here you guys go again with a mindset that is the virtue signaling I see in the Democratic party. All of sudden you Medellin morons are not pushing the other notion: that you are not paying for sex and are virtuous for not doing so. Or paying less for it. Or now there is the notion that you are going to El Centro for the culture and not the sex.

And while you morons are busy waiting for your medals that show you are more culturally aware that the crude mongers who go to El Centro for just sex, what losers! You seem to not have noticed that your efforts go totally against what the site was founded for to begin with.

Miami Boy's case that most guys go to El Centro for cheap sex should not be argued but greeted with a shrugging of the shoulders and a question, "Your point is what exactly?" Instead, it is seen as heresy by a bunch of virtue signaling morons who claim they are seeing the real Colombia and others are not. My point to MB, and one I should have made much sooner, is by now you know how fucking crazy these morons are, and what does it say about you that you are, and I was, arguing with them? Crazy is never going to admit they are crazy. By arguing with them, you are saying they are not crazy which gives them the ultimate compliment, and so they are going to come back at you again and again. Now do you get why these Medellin morons cannot shut up about me?

And Nounce, I really want to reward your triangulating bullshit so just let me know what color medal you want, and I will pin said medal on you in El Centro. The medal will be inscribed with the phrase "more virtuous than the average monger" seeing as how that is what you want.

MB, just put these fools on ignore like I did. You really are not missing anything in doing so. 99% of what these morons do is just beat their chests.

In the mean time, I was super impressed with a group I met and a tour guide in Colombia. Because of the guide, these guys had access to the best restaurants and best women, and it was a lesson on how to get by a country's road blocks. Leave the Medellin morons to the slums they think are so fucking great and do what these guys did and get the best food and finest women. The tour guides know 1000 x more than these morons ever will.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797418]I do not see it starting out as people putting people down who don't mind paying higher prices. What I see is people trying to school those that pay higher prices that there is no need to pay that much. Then the people that pay higher prices get prideful and defensive and say things like it is their money and the girl is better and they get better service because they are paying more. Then they end up calling the person that is trying to school them cheap and broke.

A chick was coming over last night. She told me $43 for short time and $86 for all night. I told her fuck that and that I would pay $29 for short time. She said no at first, but then said she would only stay 1 hour in that case. I said okay. She got here at 9 pm and ended up not leaving until 7 am and trying to come back tonight when she finishes work. Sure I could have paid the $86 for long time she originally offered, but I know there is no reason to throw around that kind of money here. And what would the $86 have gotten me that the $29 did not get me from the same damn chick?

Maybe it just works out for me because I have never met any pussy that I had to have so I am able to hold out and to say no. You can't miss what you never had and I do not remember the chicks over the years that I had not been able to come to an agreement with.

I get happy when someone teaches me that I could be paying less for something. Why pay more when I do not have to. It confuses me when people would rather pay more for the same thing. Like the taxis at the airport for instance. A seasoned traveler knows that the people saying taxi taxi when you arrive at the airport are going to charge exorbitantly and you can go to where taxis are dropping people off to get one for normal price. Yet there are still people who refuse to walk a few steps in order to pay half the money for the same thing.[/QUOTE]Let's take that same concept and apply it to everything else.

9 out of 10 times, no matter what it is you are paying for, you will most likely receive better service when you pay someone more money, for example that cab driver, will most likely get your bags for you vs the guy you negotiated with, you'll be lucky to even get a "have a nice day" when you step out. Another example if you go to a restaurant and leave a bad tip, the next time you step in there I doubt the same waitress will attend to you like she did before.

It's like saying why pay $1000 to fly United when you can pay $300 to fly spirit or avianca if you're still flying from a to be.

That's if you care about service. If you don't agree then you simply don't get it. Some people don't mind paying a little more to "expect" better service.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2797664]
It's like saying why pay $1000 to fly United when you can pay $300 to fly spirit or avianca if you're still flying from a to be.

[/QUOTE]This flight analogy was thoroughly debunked a few months ago. Not to mention, that the difference in flight price is most often a higher price for less service / flight time... Which seems to work in the opposite direction to what you intend.