Making my first trip to CTG Next week and.
I've been studying this map like its a final exam LOL. Thanks Hillbilly69 for the great insight.
[QUOTE=Leblon; 1348669]Isn't it time to put Hillbilly69 map to Reports of Distinction, so that all the Cartagena newcomers will see it?
How is it done?
I made two mongering trips to Cartagena and trips were mostly based on this map.
It is of great help to everybody who don't know anything about Cartagena, you get good general view of the city and see where all the important mongering places are.[/QUOTE]
Cartagena- Observations From a Recent Trip
I went to CTG from Nov 5-11. This was my 5th trip to CTG, but my first in over 2 years. This was during the Colombia National Beauty Pageant and Cartagena's "Independence" Day. I was in Cartagena during the same time period in 2009. Instead of doing an actual "trip report" in my previous fashion, I thought I would just give my observations.
First, IMO, CTG has changed for the worse. I remember when I was first reading the CTG forum 3 years ago, the true CTG vets at that time were lamenting how CTG had changed with increase in chica prices and poorer services than what they were accustomed to. However, my first time in CTG 2009, I loved it so much that I went there 3 times in that year. It was my favorite place to go. But, now it's my turn to remember the "good ole times" with my experience from this trip leading me to question if I would want to go back again any time soon, or ever. So, here goes:
- LDV; Girls much more hardcore, starting out asking for 250K and "negotiating' down to 200K, but very specific for 1 hour. Previous experience in 2009 was starting off at 150-200k, easily negotiating down to 120-130K for 2+ hours and with BBBJ included (a must for me). Also, drink prices in LDV significantly higher than what it was 3 years ago.
- ISIS: Still in Centro but a new location and now very upscale. Very hot girls. $250K for 1 hour (not on site, but nearby) , or 500K for TLN.
- ELECKTRA: Tried go in one night around 4am early in the week (closes at 5am) , but the door guy wanted to charge me 10K entrance fee. When the doors opened and I saw the place dead, I declined. Never went back.
- PLEYCLUB: 250K onsite, can negotiate to meet the girls next day for less. Too much plastic for my taste.
- Chicas Lindas (and several clubs in the same general area) : Ok girls, some gems seen if you look real hard. Can't remember all the 'in house" prices, but 80K multa to take out and then the price for the girl. If you go, be sure to check out the clubs around the corner (walk out of Chicas Lindas, turn left and walk through gas station parking lot; walk another 5 minutes or so and there are several more clubs on the left). Caters mostly to locals.
- Rosario House: First time in this place although it's been around for a long time and apparently caters to the sailors that come to CTG port. $75 USD onsite. Some gems, but high mileage kind of place.
- Centro (inside and outside of Tu Candela) : On the weekends, there were several girls hanging around just outside of Tu Candela, apparently not being allowed in. I recognized several from the above establishments hanging around on the benches. First girl I talked to wanted "200k for 1 hour" and I lost my interest. I'm not sure how the scene is during the week. There wasn't an entrance fee around 10pm when I entered, but I noticed that others were being charged an entrance fee around midnight, maybe earlier. (If you are a drinker and don't want to pay the 20K+/drink inside of Tu Candela, get the drinks for much less from the guy selling from the cart right outside of the club).
- Playa Hollywood: It used to be that I would see some girls on the beach I wouldn't see anywhere else in CTG, but this time, it was all girls that either worked at LDV or one of the other establishments, asking 200K."Tony Number 1" is still the same, but he got pissed at me because I wouldn't play is game anymore. Most of us that have been to Playa Hollywood in CTG have played into Tony's hand and eventually got smart. So here is what I've learned:
There is now a "bar' area in Playa Hollywood, with each vendor being their own business. There is a woman, an old guy, and a young guy that are setup on the right side of the bar. The old guy and the woman will charge you so that Tony gets his commission if they know he has served you before (and probably because of his pestering). The young guy (name is "Jugo") won't do that. Here are some examples of the price differences between getting your drinks from Jugo directly as opposed to Tony's mark ups: Aguila / Aguila Light- 2K vs 3k; Club Colombia- 3K vs 4K; Pina Coloda and Coco Loco (which the girls on the beach love and Tony "suggests").10K vs 15K. You can sit at the bar, or on the beach chairs with table and shade for free and not be harassed by people wanting you to buy things form them. Additionally, it is a better view IMO to scope the entire beach scene out. For food, if you buy from the lady directly behind this "bar', a plate is 10K vs 15K from Tony.
I was told by one of the beach girls, that if Tony "introduces" you to a girl, he will be expecting a commission of 30K (paid by the girl) so the chica has to factor this in to the price she agrees to. (If I remember correctly, in 2009 Tony's commission used to be 10-20K). As many others have already written, if you see a girl on the beach talk to her yourself. If Tony calls a girl for you, it's most likely just going to be a working girl that's not on the beach right then and if you don't like her, you will be asked to pay for the Taxi for her.
You can decide for yourselves if these price differences really matter, but as you can see, there are significant price differences in food, drinks, and chicas in Playa Hollywood if you use Tony.
-FABIO the Tour Guide: I met Fabio through a newbie that hired him and who I befriended in CTG. Fabio speaks excellent English and in his early 30's. He tries to have you hire him on a "per day" basis to be at your disposal. He will drive you around, introduce you to girls and can be your translator. Here are some facts to know about Fabio. First, he used to work for some marriage agency in CTG and has a list and pics of "girls" in his computer. However, he grossly exaggerated how hot the girls were. The girls were either of the type looking for a real relationship (and therefore would take some wining and dining to get laid) , or were just working girls from the casas that are frequented by the locals. In addition to whatever daily or hourly rate you agree upon, you may need to feed him (if you eat) , get him something to drink (if you drink, but mostly water) , pay any entrance fees, and most importantly, may have his commission tacked on to your final bill if he takes you to some strip clubs. In addition, I think he said he works as an English teacher during the day, so his availability may vary from day to day.
If you factor in all of the above, I think Fabio's true value would to be to someone who doesn't speak any Spanish and is a first time visitor to CTG and who would like someone to tour the outlying casas, going from one to the next without having to get a taxi. If you wanted to have him drive you the Barranquilla for a night, that can be negotiated with him.
So, in summary, Cartagena IMO has become much more expensive and hardcore than what I fondly remember from my past trips. Hopefully, the information I passed on above will be helpful to CTG newbies and subsequent trip reports from other CTG vets may give truer refection of CTG today.