East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Cooler Wolf2; 1310985]No mamasans that I am aware of for the Viet girls.

Sounds like she just wanted to leave the bar early, shoot quickly and get back to the bar for a second customer. Manhattans can stay busy until late morning.

By normal fee, what she means is that most girls will HOPE for 1, 500 LT. Many will go for 1, 000 LT depending on the time of night. 1,000 ST is probably a pretty standard offer but only on the basis that she can get back to the bar in the hope of picking up second client. It's just the nature of the business.[/QUOTE]I picked up a very cute 24year old viet girl about 4 months ago. It was early in the night ( 11pm, I know really early for Manhattans). She gladly took 800 for short time. By 1am, I was done with her and slept like a log, She on other hand grabbed a second one I am sure. A win win, I suppose.

Another report from me. Just moved to this town so have been trying to stay busy and stopped by a MP near People's Square. It's a on the southeast corner of Huanghe road and Beijing road. One look at the exterior of this place and it screams dodgy. Large posters of scantily clad caucasian women where the menu is listed, a tout sitting behind a small podium out front and a KTV just above. You go up an elevator into the main lobby where you are greeted by what turned out to be the actual masseuse. She was was slim and had a cute face but bad skin. A 6 at best. The individual rooms are actually quite decent, perhaps the quality of a 3-star hotel and equipped with a large shower room. After showering, you lie down in a large double bed and she gives you a standard back massage with your choice of massage oil or baby power. She then goes through a simulated cat bath where instead of using her tongue, she uses the tip of her nose. Not bad, but obviously not as good. After about 20 mins of this, she turns you around and does more of the nose thing, working your nipples and roaming all the way up to your earlobes. The actual HJ was uninspired and felt rather mechanical. Total damage was 358 RMB, which is pretty expensive for this type of place but if you're in the area and desperate, it's at least a nice facility.

Does anyone know of any extremely well-endowed providers in Shanghai? I don't mean busty in the Asian sense but someone who was a set of disproportionately oversized natural hangers or melons. Doesn't need to be Chinese either.

Just moved here recently so any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you SamCan, CoolerWolf2 and Bionicman for your advice and feedback. China is getting a little bit less mysterious every time thanks to this forum, and as I am getting ready to leave Shanghai, probably after one last Sauna, I realize I still have a long way to go but I do enjoy the voyage. Take care.

Well, yesterday I tried the popular #18 on Shanxi Lu massage parlor. Quite a good massage, followed by the fake tongue thing and I even go for some DATY. Then she put a lot of oil on my didi, so after some 'brushing', when I asked for a BBJ, she told me there was no time for clean up and action! My fault, she is not really attractive, but the service, I confirm, is super.

For 2night I have a dilemma: considering that I have to wake up tomorrow morning at 6, should I go for a Sauna or a more enjoyable Judy's / Manhattan, in the view of a possible ST in a nearby hotel room? No way to bring her at home.

Do you guys know which is the safer and closer hotel, that should cost a reasonable amount, considering that it will be used only for a couple of hours?

Thanks for advise!

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1310981]Because this sounded just too much like the scam described in Toolkit's excellent report I decided against calling Selina, whom I met on Nanjing road (did I mention that the night I met her at 1AM she said she was hungry and was going to eat?). Went bar hopping instead, first checked out Maloney's, nice band but not much action there, then Judy's which seemed very nice with 3 singers but I did not stay because I wanted to go to Manhattan first, got there around 10:30PM. Nice bar. 50 RMB mixed drinks, the place only really gets going later starting around 11:30PM and there are many girls there, some of them pretty. A nice Vietnamese girl (Moon) stroke a conversation when I arrived and pretty much stayed with me until 1:30AM. She looked OK but not the best in the bar, as I had more drinks she started looking better. I admired her patience for we did not talk about money until about 1AM, after 2:30 hours of stroking and light kissing. When I was ready I asked her for a price, she said 1500, I said that is too much and she quickly accepted 1000 RMB.

Unfortunately back at the hotel she was no longer the same patient and sexy girl she was all evening, fake moaning, repeated requests for me to come quickly, were a real turnoff. Finally she explained to me, and I don't know if it is true, that all girls in the bar have a Chinese mamasan who takes 500 RMB, if the girls don't pay the mamasan they are not allowed back. She said the normal charge is 1500 but she accepted 1000, which means 500 for her because she needs the money badly and was eager to return to the bar to get another customer. According to her there are no freelancers in Manhattan, they are all WG who charge foreigners between 1500 and 3000 depending on what they agree to pay. I still paid 1000, I did enjoy the time at the bar but the sex part was very disappointing.

Based on the many positive reviews of Manhattan I suppose that is not the typical experience, I should probably have negotiated LT at the bar but anyway once she started with the fake moaning I really did not want this girl to stay all night. She also explained to me that the reason she had tried to refrain me from drinking at the bar was so as to come back to the hotel and to Manhattan quicker, maybe after many drinks I would not be able to come quickly. Such plain honesty suggests she may be telling the truth about the mamasan as well, maybe this has been reported on before, I confess I only read the last 14 pages of the Shanghai forum before going out. Cheers. Mahal.[/QUOTE]I don't find the viet girls that good anymore lately, they look fake and too much like hookers. Some of them ask for crazy prices.

Only had one realy nice viet girl last winter, that gave me outstanding GFE for 2 days. Besides that I have more luck with the PI girls.

BTW anyone had experiance with one of the african girls. I was tempted last time in July, but they always have a dude hanging around watching them, so my sixth sense made me decline

Her offer.

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1310981]Because this sounded just too much like the scam described in Toolkit's excellent report I decided against calling Selina, whom I met on Nanjing road (did I mention that the night I met her at 1AM she said she was hungry and was going to eat?). Went bar hopping instead, first checked out Maloney's, nice band but not much action there, then Judy's which seemed very nice with 3 singers but I did not stay because I wanted to go to Manhattan first, got there around 10:30PM. Nice bar. 50 RMB mixed drinks, the place only really gets going later starting around 11:30PM and there are many girls there, some of them pretty. A nice Vietnamese girl (Moon) stroke a conversation when I arrived and pretty much stayed with me until 1:30AM. She looked OK but not the best in the bar, as I had more drinks she started looking better. I admired her patience for we did not talk about money until about 1AM, after 2:30 hours of stroking and light kissing. When I was ready I asked her for a price, she said 1500, I said that is too much and she quickly accepted 1000 RMB.

Unfortunately back at the hotel she was no longer the same patient and sexy girl she was all evening, fake moaning, repeated requests for me to come quickly, were a real turnoff. Finally she explained to me, and I don't know if it is true, that all girls in the bar have a Chinese mamasan who takes 500 RMB, if the girls don't pay the mamasan they are not allowed back. She said the normal charge is 1500 but she accepted 1000, which means 500 for her because she needs the money badly and was eager to return to the bar to get another customer. According to her there are no freelancers in Manhattan, they are all WG who charge foreigners between 1500 and 3000 depending on what they agree to pay. I still paid 1000, I did enjoy the time at the bar but the sex part was very disappointing.

Based on the many positive reviews of Manhattan I suppose that is not the typical experience, I should probably have negotiated LT at the bar but anyway once she started with the fake moaning I really did not want this girl to stay all night. She also explained to me that the reason she had tried to refrain me from drinking at the bar was so as to come back to the hotel and to Manhattan quicker, maybe after many drinks I would not be able to come quickly. Such plain honesty suggests she may be telling the truth about the mamasan as well, maybe this has been reported on before, I confess I only read the last 14 pages of the Shanghai forum before going out. Cheers. Mahal.[/QUOTE]Mahal,

She told you was all BS to get more money. But good report and good to know better stay away from her. If she staid drinking with you for 2 hours means pickings for her must be slow. Also the things she said were a warning for things to come.

Some times you win, sometimes you loose, but no Mama in Manhattan I ever heard of they are all freelancers. Some have agents they need to pay off for visa transportation and lodging but they never show off in Manhattan.

FA

[QUOTE=Anakonda; 1311228]Well, yesterday I tried the popular #18 on Shanxi Lu massage parlor. Quite a good massage, followed by the fake tongue thing and I even go for some DATY. Then she put a lot of oil on my didi, so after some 'brushing', when I asked for a BBJ, she told me there was no time for clean up and action! My fault, she is not really attractive, but the service, I confirm, is super.

For 2night I have a dilemma: considering that I have to wake up tomorrow morning at 6, should I go for a Sauna or a more enjoyable Judy's / Manhattan, in the view of a possible ST in a nearby hotel room? No way to bring her at home.

Do you guys know which is the safer and closer hotel, that should cost a reasonable amount, considering that it will be used only for a couple of hours?

Thanks for advise![/QUOTE]Can you define "brushing"? Yes she is not beautiful. I gave her a 7 on looks, (maybe go a 6 depending on crowd). I do miss her now that I am back in the USA

First time at Sarcosa, as reported it is not easy to find because there is no sign. When facing the Next Age shopping mall enter the plaza to the left of the mall, look for the giraffe statues and turn left, count 3 doors then enter the building at 1085 Pudong Nan Lu on your right hand side through the main entrance, take one of the 3 elevators to the 5th floor.

The place is gloomy, kind of old, and smells of cold cigarette smoke, facilities not as good as the other places I visited IMHO. Was there at 5:00PM, locker, shower, got into a small waiting room then I was shown 5 girls. 4 of whom carefully avoided even looking in my direction. Picked the taller one with the biggest breasts, #585, she brought me to a small room with a bed and a mirror then disappeared for 10 minutes. Quite cold at first but good cat tongue bath and AR. Nice body but would not allow me to touch her at all, she would always reposition herself to where her body would be out of reach. Finally she warmed up after 45 minutes or so and started smiling, which made the session nicer, finished with BBBJTC and then some cosy moments in which she actually tried to communicate with me, let me touch her and even smiled! Not a bad deal for 580 RMB but clearly YMMV.

My order of preference based on 1 experience at each place over the last 2 weeks: 1) Bodi 2) Hai Lang 3) 999 Jiu Yuan 4) Sacrosa 5) Heting Elite. Did not get to try Siyuan at Merrylin Hotel and Dream at Doubletree Hotel on this trip. Mahal.

Hi guys, this is my first post!

Just for say hello to everyone. I need apologize my english not perfect but I m from from uk or USA.

I m in shangahi already 7 yrs. And I ll never go back my country cause here is great!

Just want give a little subjection. Try to use we chat.

I find a paradise.

After 24 hours I was in a massage close here. Hong giao area.

I keeping touch this girl, skinny, tall and she invited me to try is shop.

Massage 200 rmb. Room really clean and cool. Shower really new. She dress hight hill and skirt. Massage (true one) 15 minutes, after she started to play with my ass.

Then she let me turn and (I was waiting a HJ) she started to kiss my body and after one of the best BJ of my life. By the way I was using my finger and tongue and. She was totally wet and squirting.

Totally time 1:30.

Extra 300 rmb.

Sometimes better than sauna.

Ps: I was there other 4 times. Once she was busy but hers subjection was same terrific.

And last time I bring one condom. Same price got a full service.

Now I ll try others 3 places around here. With hope have same faith and lucky!

Welcome to the club Nemo. If you want to share more details about the location and your favorite girls worker number we would really like that. Many of us are are on a small budget, so your girls sounds great and affordable to many of us. Tells us the street name in Pinyin and address. Maybe even the girls name. If you become a full member by paying $19. 95 we can contact you for these details and offer information to you and answer questions, but it appears that you do not need any help finding what is available all over this city and country. It truly is a paradise. It's is truly nice that your first post was about scoring, not asking "hey guys, where can I score" I had some naughty fun at #98 Ronhhua road in the Gubei area near Hongqiao. There a a few MP's on that street and more if one looks around.
Cheers mate!


]Hi guys, this is my first post!

Just for say hello to everyone. I need apologize my english not perfect but I m from from uk or USA.

I m in shangahi already 7 yrs. And I ll never go back my country cause here is great!

Just want give a little subjection. Try to use we chat.

I find a paradise.

After 24 hours I was in a massage close here. Hong giao area.

I keeping touch this girl, skinny, tall and she invited me to try is shop.

Massage 200 rmb. Room really clean and cool. Shower really new. She dress hight hill and skirt. Massage (true one) 15 minutes, after she started to play with my ass.

Then she let me turn and (I was waiting a HJ) she started to kiss my body and after one of the best BJ of my life. By the way I was using my finger and tongue and. She was totally wet and squirting.

Totally time 1:30.

Extra 300 rmb.

Sometimes better than sauna.

Ps: I was there other 4 times. Once she was busy but hers subjection was same terrific.

And last time I bring one condom. Same price got a full service.

Now I ll try others 3 places around here. With hope have same faith and lucky![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;1311297]Mahal, If she staid drinking with you for 2 hours means pickings for her must be slow. Also the things she said were a warning for things to come.FA[/QUOTE]In those two (drinking) hours she might have had a ST run (whether whe actually cold have scored is something else, of course). So probably she wanted to capitalise that time too. On the other hand fast moving girls do not invest too much time in trying to get a customer. Surely not two hours, not even half an hour. 15 minutes would already be a long negotiating / selling time. Just se what happens at Beach Club in KL or OT in Singapore, joints similar to these ones. Few minutes of talks trying to sells themselves. If you are kind enough to buy them a drink, the FL not getting much out of it, sometime do not even stay the time to drink all of it, as if they feel there is no business coming up and they move to the next target. At the end of the day one has to account for those two hours too. When I go to a bar and have a a girl "wasting" 30 minutes or more with me to keep me company I don't mind, in addition to a couple of LD, to tip her with a little money for her time. Maybe I am too soft or whatever, but at the end of the day "we are all in it only for the money" (F. Zappa). They are too.

First post. Several weeks ago saw all the flowers set up outside "Sunny Massage", near Shanghai TV station on Weihai Lu. Tried it, like it, going back ASAP. Young man at desk showed me the menu, oil massage 60 minute about 300 RMB. 90 minute 478 RMB. I chose 90. Cute little girl helped me remove my shoes and socks, gave me slippers. Led me to a nice, clean and new-looking room with a shower. I showered. She laid out a towel and a pair of those terrible disposable shorts. I debated, then slipped on the shorts. She came into the room started on my back, spent a good 20 minutes or more just on my back, felt pretty good. Then she worked my legs, then pulled down the shorts to work my butt. Wow, drizzled oil in the crack, slowly worked buns, crack, taint, then lots of ball-stroking from behind. Heavenly. She flipped me, pulled the shorts down a bit more so I helped by kicking the crappy things off completely. She went right to work on Junior, no pretense of anything else. Magic hands, lots of very slow and light stroking of the head, several variations on the shaft, no rush. I don't cum easily and many times have to help finish the HJ, but this girl had me going. I played with her tight, small ass, thought about going for the glory hole but instead used hand motion to show I wanted to massage her breasts. She repositioned herself to give me better access and off I went, enjoyed it thoroughly. A full handful, surprising for such a small girl. Only took two minutes or so for this to get me off. I tipped her 200 RMB, probably too much but I plan to return and see if I can progress this further. But I won't wear those blue shorts next time!

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1311833]First post. Several weeks ago saw all the flowers set up outside "Sunny Massage", near Shanghai TV station on Weihai Lu. Tried it, like it, going back ASAP. Young man at desk showed me the menu, oil massage 60 minute about 300 RMB. 90 minute 478 RMB. I chose 90. Cute little girl helped me remove my shoes and socks, gave me slippers. Led me to a nice, clean and new-looking room with a shower. I showered. She laid out a towel and a pair of those terrible disposable shorts. I debated, then slipped on the shorts. She came into the room started on my back, spent a good 20 minutes or more just on my back, felt pretty good. Then she worked my legs, then pulled down the shorts to work my butt. Wow, drizzled oil in the crack, slowly worked buns, crack, taint, then lots of ball-stroking from behind. Heavenly. She flipped me, pulled the shorts down a bit more so I helped by kicking the crappy things off completely. She went right to work on Junior, no pretense of anything else. Magic hands, lots of very slow and light stroking of the head, several variations on the shaft, no rush. I don't cum easily and many times have to help finish the HJ, but this girl had me going. I played with her tight, small ass, thought about going for the glory hole but instead used hand motion to show I wanted to massage her breasts. She repositioned herself to give me better access and off I went, enjoyed it thoroughly. A full handful, surprising for such a small girl. Only took two minutes or so for this to get me off. I tipped her 200 RMB, probably too much but I plan to return and see if I can progress this further. But I won't wear those blue shorts next time![/QUOTE]No offense but 678 RMB for a HJ, if this becomes standard I will retire or move to AC. Even in BJ this is 168 RMB and I tip sometimes also 200 RMB but for FS.

I love the shirts and actually they protect both of you in case some friends come visit, do not forget here pretending is everything.

FA

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1311795]In those two (drinking) hours she might have had a ST run (whether whe actually cold have scored is something else, of course). So probably she wanted to capitalise that time too. On the other hand fast moving girls do not invest too much time in trying to get a customer. Surely not two hours, not even half an hour. 15 minutes would already be a long negotiating / selling time. Just se what happens at Beach Club in KL or OT in Singapore, joints similar to these ones. Few minutes of talks trying to sells themselves. If you are kind enough to buy them a drink, the FL not getting much out of it, sometime do not even stay the time to drink all of it, as if they feel there is no business coming up and they move to the next target. At the end of the day one has to account for those two hours too. When I go to a bar and have a a girl "wasting" 30 minutes or more with me to keep me company I don't mind, in addition to a couple of LD, to tip her with a little money for her time. Maybe I am too soft or whatever, but at the end of the day "we are all in it only for the money" (F. Zappa). They are too.[/QUOTE]Bionicman,

You are mostly right but there are differences and what you completely accurate describe is the (multiple) ST situation. Not all girls and venues do support this at all times and some of the girls do sometimes like a chat (rarely 2 hours but still) if they like you but it is good to show validation in whatever form for this. My best GFE included dinners with they ladies upfront and the worst experiences are with the let us go fast sharks. This is what I meant with warning signal for things to come. I treat people how I want people treat me and how people treat me. Maybe I am too soft too.

FA