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[QUOTE=Americanthief]Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.[/QUOTE]
As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Coitus68]As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]


Aaah, the lies we tell ourselves... :)

[QUOTE=Coitus68]As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Apparently so do a lot of guys, judging from the number of providers I know who tell me about the significant number of customers who pay the price of a full trip (often bringing their own wine or whiskey to boot) for just talk.

But let's face it, 99% of the time GFE is, at best, simulated GFE, even when no sex is involved

The best of all possible worlds are:

(i) the real deal and sex (very rare w/ a provider, but not impossible)

(ii) good simlucram GFE and sex, and

(iii) pure PSE sport-fucking with a provider who's into it.

If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Apparently so do a lot of guys, judging from the number of providers I know who tell me about the significant number of customers who pay the price of a full trip (often bringing their own wine or whiskey to boot) for just talk.

But let's face it, 99% of the time GFE is, at best, simulated GFE, even when no sex is involved

The best of all possible worlds are:

(i) the real deal and sex (very rare w/ a provider, but not impossible)

(ii) good simlucram GFE and sex, and

(iii) pure PSE sport-fucking with a provider who's into it.

If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.[/QUOTE]But there is a difference in GFE and an actual GF. With a provider who gives you a GFE you get only the positive sides of a GF, an actual civilian GF demands alot more from you than your precious money. I haven't tried the Kiss Bang yet, but the concept is very appealing to me, more so than the red light district (588, Yongsan) mechanical sex.

I stayed at the Courtyard Marriott this week and took a stroll through the RLD around the back around 11pm. I did not receive even one call for action in two passes. Not even a smile.

OAH

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing. I *don't* want a girlfriend. The GFE is the next best thing, and I know when it's finished, she leaves. No downside of an actual GF.

I've never been to a Kiss Bang in Korea--I feel they're just too expensive for what is provided--however, I do see the attraction to such a place.

[QUOTE=Darren 33]Aaah, the lies we tell ourselves... :)[/QUOTE]
Whatever, Dr. Phil.

A word of advise to the fellas here: Capital Hotel is not any longer what used to be.

Three yrs ago you'd go there, be cleaned (tub and shower), would have a quick massage, then oil all over and body-to-body (i.e., soapy), and the final act. And would be very friendly (although no DFK).

Went there last week to revive good memories, and was disappointed: tub and shower was in the menu, followed by a regular back massage, then no soapy and direct to the final procedures (after the rubber being put on).

Quite mechanical, not good. Forget about this place in case you may be considering going back there.

Does this ever happen? Seriously though. Really?

I always thought girls needed the place b/c of security and that they don't want guys to know where they live.

[QUOTE=Darknight]Better yet, if she likes you and you visit her more than a few times she will give you her number and you can bypass the front desk and make reservation directly with her. This is the way to go and if dont want anymore hit or miss experiences.[/QUOTE]

Here are some tidbits:

Massage Place Near Seoul University Station (3rd Floor)
-Fully lockable doors. A lot older ladies but nice massage and thorough time with HJ. 80,000
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489685&wy=1105930&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=204.37882017145742&tilt=-17.463276130758224&zoom=3&panoid=4600983&screenMode=normal[/url]

"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90,000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489827&wy=1105933&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=43.48856467314806&tilt=-4.687510961414041&zoom=3&panoid=4103580&screenMode=normal[/url]

Hotel Massage.
-Basement. Lots of rooms with locked doors.
-Oddly had slippers and robes from "HERA" which is an Anma near Seoulleung station.
-Average massage with FS with an older lady.
-90,000. Nothing special except it looked clean and the location/entrance is discrete
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489983&wy=1105860&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=212.4394945123497&tilt=-0.7603627406215185&zoom=3&panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal[/url]

[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Does this ever happen? Seriously though. Really?

I always thought girls needed the place b/c of security and that they don't want guys to know where they live.[/QUOTE]Yes, it happened to me. I didn't ask for it though. She volunteered it without me asking. And my korean speaking abilty is at best high beginner. So our conversations don't get very far. It's all body language after that. I'm a kyopo by the way.

Secret of my success: "act" cute and treat her with the utmost respect.

Giving her orgasm without intercourse doesn't hurt her either. LOL

Actually she should be paying me now that I think about it. LOL

Turtle Power, it seems you tried many stuff.

Do you have any good adress around Sinchon, Hongdae, or anywhere in Mapo-Dong, even around. I wonder.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Here are some tidbits:

Massage Place Near Seoul University Station (3rd Floor)
-Fully lockable doors. A lot older ladies but nice massage and thorough time with HJ. 80,000
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489685&wy=1105930&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=204.37882017145742&tilt=-17.463276130758224&zoom=3&panoid=4600983&screenMode=normal[/url]

"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90,000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489827&wy=1105933&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=43.48856467314806&tilt=-4.687510961414041&zoom=3&panoid=4103580&screenMode=normal[/url]

Hotel Massage.
-Basement. Lots of rooms with locked doors.
-Oddly had slippers and robes from "HERA" which is an Anma near Seoulleung station.
-Average massage with FS with an older lady.
-90,000. Nothing special except it looked clean and the location/entrance is discrete
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489983&wy=1105860&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=212.4394945123497&tilt=-0.7603627406215185&zoom=3&panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Here are some tidbits:

"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)

-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.

-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.

-Blah massage but 90, 000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.

Panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal[/url][/QUOTE]Any detailed report on this Chinese girl? Was she old? Were her breasts natural? How's her performance? Etc.

[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Any detailed report on this Chinese girl? Was she old? Were her breasts natural? How's her performance? Etc.[/QUOTE]Yes, you'll find her face a bit older(40's) looking than her body which made me suspicious that she had a lot of work done. Body looked young and no stretch marks/sagging. Breasts did look and feel natural. She was very nice and smiley but a dead fish in bed. No eye contact. No kissing. Would not repeat.

[QUOTE=Georges Orwell]Turtle Power, it seems you tried many stuff.

Do you have any good adress around Sinchon, Hongdae, or anywhere in Mapo-Dong, even around. I wonder.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Actually I've never tried any places where you mentioned. I've gone clubbing in Hongdae which I recommend that all you do for a crazy time and lots of girls.

I did notice that there are lots and lots of Kiss Bangs in Hongdae and Sillim, in open view. Just walk out of the subway station at night and you'll lots of neon signs up.

Sometimes I go through that old(2006-2007) National DaeDalDang List, translate the directions, then try to find it on Daum Road View, and then go see if it's still there as even Daum Road View pics are out of date. The majority of the places on that old list are now Kiss Bangs. I guess b/c they still make crazy money with less police hassle due to that legal loop hole and they can put up shop right in direct public view. LMAO, saw some Kiss Bangs beside schools and churches.

This woman is possibly infected with HIV and may be a tranny. I have recieved a report about her from a friend.