Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Consizitai; 1238792]Dear list,

This is my first post. I registered today as I really need to hear your kind advice.

I know and have read many times that you should not really attach yourself with a girl from massage parlours. Reasons are various and the bottom line is you won't be happy in the end.

But when that day comes, then you feel confused.

I met a girl at the Amsterdam massage. Maybe because she was gentle, maybe because she was able to speak English, I now feel an attachment towards her. We exchanged phone numbers.

Now I really don't know. Should I call her for a dinner? What will I do afterwards? I would feel awkward if she begins to ask me to buy her something. But then I thought, maybe not, maybe she would do things differently.

What is your advice?[/QUOTE]Go find another girl, and another girl, and another if necessary, until the feeling subsides. Seriously DO NOT get involved with a girl you paid for sex, I have never, ever heard of anyone being even remotely successful with an endeavor like this in Thailand. I am sure she was gentle and sweet, but that's because you were paying her to be all those things. They are like a characters in the movies or TV shows, they are persona's for work, but the individual can often be a very different person.

[QUOTE=Consizitai; 1238792]Dear list,

This is my first post. I registered today as I really need to hear your kind advice.

I know and have read many times that you should not really attach yourself with a girl from massage parlours. Reasons are various and the bottom line is you won't be happy in the end.

But when that day comes, then you feel confused.

I met a girl at the Amsterdam massage. Maybe because she was gentle, maybe because she was able to speak English, I now feel an attachment towards her. We exchanged phone numbers.

Now I really don't know. Should I call her for a dinner? What will I do afterwards? I would feel awkward if she begins to ask me to buy her something. But then I thought, maybe not, maybe she would do things differently.

What is your advice?[/QUOTE]Working girls are sometimes lonely and looking for a boyfriend. Others are looking for one that will help support her so she doesn't have to work.

Some Soapy girls are not as hardened as bar-girls and porn-star oily girls, in my opinion. I have taken out Soapy girls on many occasions. Remember though that Soapy girls can have many guys interested in them and so you may be just one of a large bunch, as someone else pointed out.

The first soapy girl I was keen on, had several boyfriends, and ended up marrying an American. They have now split up, and I still talk to her occasionally as she isn't such a bad girl these days. I also once had a soapy girlfriend for about 3 years, but she was very jealous and had anger management issues. However, I wasn't supporting her, so she still had to work.

Don't get involved with selfish girls! You don't need to buy her expensive presents, but you still need to pay for sex or for overnight stays, until such time as she offers a freebie. If she wants expensive things, its a very bad sign.

Don't get carried away with girls that you haven't known for a long time.

In general, I believe soapy girls are better GF material than bar girls, after many years of experience. However neither are a great idea. Better to keep it to a very casual relationship, even if you like spending time together. Its best to have several favourite girls in my view.

I have phone number of several favourite Soapy girls, but I don't take them to dinner, as have a GF already.

[QUOTE=Daddy San;1238685]Furthermore, this discussion might prompt some mongers to visit Melody and report, before I have a chance to go there myself in 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, I like others to tell me its crap or HJ only or whatever, before I go waste my time.I have to admit that the pic of Ice is enticing, but I don't for a minute believe she will really look like that. ;)Can you believe that I was reluctant to visit Tulip, Mango, etc. Until faced with overwhelming positive reports? On the other hand I still try some new place occasionally, if the girl is unbelievably stunning, or I'm very desperate, but not adverse to walking out till I meet someone appealing. No time to waste on ordinary girls.

[QUOTE=Dveight;1238896]Seriously DO NOT get involved with a girl you paid for sex, I have never, ever heard of anyone being even remotely successful with an endeavor like this in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Older Thai men like to steal best soapy girls away to be their 2nd wife or even main one. Also a fair percentage of Farangs with Thai wives, got the girl from questionable backgrounds. Some of these were ex-soapy girls. Some were successful, but it could be a low percentage. I know of successful (to date) cases. Obviously I don't have any statistics. Soapy girls, outside of their workplace, are often able to act in a much more classy (or normal) way than bar girls, so that their background is not so obvious. Bar girls get spoiled by their work environment very quickly (just a few months). In Soapy places, they are not so used to playing up in public. The elements of shyness in public can remain, which is good.

A friend ended up marrying a shy Soapy girl, even though initially her English was poor. They remain very happy with kids and live in a foreign country. Both the friend and his girl are a very nice people. Some working girls in Thailand have very nice personalities, but worked in soapy places due to severe economic hardship. Absolute gems do exist.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1236532]I like Por too. I also like Bo, Cat and Luew. These girls may not be stunners, but they are real nice.[/QUOTE]Which shop you are talking about buddy?

[QUOTE=Dveight;1238894]It was 2 days before New Years 2012, so it really wasn't that long ago, and if you read my post I say she came to my hotel room. If you check their Victoria's website you can see that Maggi is still available or you could call Nadia, I just got an e-mail from her last week that Maggi's is still at Victoria's. I don't really know what is going on with that new parlor, it does appear they have some of the same pictures of girls, but I also know that Victoria's is still operating their outcall service as well.[/QUOTE]Melody's phone number is the same as Victoria. But the name of the shop is now Melody. For sure! You wrote on emails and phone calls, but have you visited the parlor?

[QUOTE=Consizitai; 1238792]Dear list,

I met a girl at the Amsterdam massage. Maybe because she was gentle, maybe because she was able to speak English, I now feel an attachment towards her. We exchanged phone numbers.

Now I really don't know. Should I call her for a dinner? What will I do afterwards? I would feel awkward if she begins to ask me to buy her something. But then I thought, maybe not, maybe she would do things differently.

What is your advice?[/QUOTE]Limited experience with Thais, but the sideliner soapy girl I met had a regular job and was looking for some extra cash (for her family she said).

We got along well for a couple days, then I left and she ended up with another foreign guy.

Attachment towards her? Falling is love isn't a great idea, but hanging out with someone you like is fun as long as things are clear. Paying cash daily makes it more clear.

Some girls will say no to cash but expect you to spend much more for gifts. Those are dangerous, as others have mentioned.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1238423]It is on the gals pic page in the shop, not on the website. If it was in English as well, I would agree with you.[/QUOTE]Melody is targeting Japanese, who often have a hard time with English.

My guess / hope is that management or the girl (bit too late at that point though) will just tell you who does what, but the Japanese customers get shown a list for clarity.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1238974]Ah yes, I like others to tell me its crap or HJ only or whatever, before I go waste my time.I have to admit that the pic of Ice is enticing, but I don't for a minute believe she will really look like that. .Can you believe that I was reluctant to visit Tulip, Mango, etc. Until faced with overwhelming positive reports? On the other hand I still try some new place occasionally, if the girl is unbelievably stunning, or I'm very desperate, but not adverse to walking out till I meet someone appealing. No time to waste on ordinary girls.[/QUOTE]Today walked into Mango and found it hard to get excited about any of the girls, even though some of them looked good on the website. The reality was somewhat ordinary looking girls (Cat was away sick). Even if their performance is great, my problem is that its just a fuck to me, since my GF is prettier than all of them and has a quite good body also (just 31 years old). She is also very enjoyable to screw, perhaps lacking in stamina and BJ ability compared to Mango girls.On the way out of Mango, a stunning girl just arrived on motor-bike and went into Pink Massage. This certainly got me interested as she was probably better looking than my GF. Seeing the real girl is way better than seeing the web sites. http://www.pinkmassage2.com/girls.htm So my problem is I need very pretty girls, or at least super model bodies, otherwise I am not excited by them. I guess surveying many MPs is the only way to find them, reliably.

Sincere thanks to everyone who has taken time to answer me. I think at the moment, I will try to let the feeling subside, to see how it goes.Next time when I go to Amsterdam, I will see if she still remembers me.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1239125]Today walked into Mango and found it hard to get excited about any of the girls.[/QUOTE]Funnily enough I encountered the same problem today. And I was also looking for Cat and had contacted the shop the day before to make sure she was working. I wish I did but I just didn't fancy any of the ladies there so had to leave the shop with many mai bpen rai's. Tried my luck on the other side of Sukhumvit at 37. 2 Massage. Although the line-up wasn't great it was much better (and on average 10 years younger) than at Mango's. Not much resemblance with the photoshopped album though. Khun N. was pleasant enough and gave a superb oily body slide; body not perfect (a kid) but I've got the impression that it's very difficult nowadays to find that kind of perfection at any of the oilies. Maybe the big soapies are the only places where one can still find the real stunners? Alas, I won't have enough time for much further investigation on this trip.YY

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1239125]Today walked into Mango and found it hard to get excited about any of the girls, even though some of them looked good on the website. The reality was somewhat ordinary looking girls (Cat was away sick). Even if their performance is great, my problem is that its just a fuck to me, since my GF is prettier than all of them and has a quite good body also (just 31 years old). She is also very enjoyable to screw, perhaps lacking in stamina and BJ ability compared to Mango girls.

On the way out of Mango, a stunning girl just arrived on motor-bike and went into Pink Massage. This certainly got me interested as she was probably better looking than my GF. Seeing the real girl is way better than seeing the web sites. [url]http://www.pinkmassage2.com/girls.htm[/url]

So my problem is I need very pretty girls, or at least super model bodies, otherwise I am not excited by them. I guess surveying many MPs is the only way to find them, reliably.[/QUOTE]It is getting harder to find great looking oily gals who give you the PSE / GSE. I for one would pay well to have gals that look like high end soapy gals but perform like the nastiest Tulip or Mango girls. A shop like that would be a license to print money.

[QUOTE=Consizitai; 1238792]Dear list,

This is my first post. I registered today as I really need to hear your kind advice.

I know and have read many times that you should not really attach yourself with a girl from massage parlours. Reasons are various and the bottom line is you won't be happy in the end.

But when that day comes, then you feel confused.

I met a girl at the Amsterdam massage. Maybe because she was gentle, maybe because she was able to speak English, I now feel an attachment towards her. We exchanged phone numbers.

Now I really don't know. Should I call her for a dinner? What will I do afterwards? I would feel awkward if she begins to ask me to buy her something. But then I thought, maybe not, maybe she would do things differently.

What is your advice?[/QUOTE]In Thailand many ladies from Isaan go to Pattaya or Bangkok to do sex-work with a goal of eventually finding a rich farang husband for themselves. And the word 'rich' is of course relative. You might be an average guy form a rich western country. But for them you are rich, because they are poor.

The working life of a massage lady is limited by her age. By mid-thirties, the woman might not be so popular among the guys anymore. And for this reason it makes sense for older massage ladies to find a permanent husband, who will support them as a consequence of their marriage. And such ladies are usually reasonable in the way they treat their men. If you do good for her, then very likely she will do good for you.

A lady who stays in the massage business for several years is usually pretty good with her men. Because she wouldn't last long in this line of work, if she doesn't learn to be good. And good means treating men good, and being reasonable in terms of expected tips and compensation.

I think a massage lady is more likely to be reasonable with you in terms of money and sex than some 'innocent' lady off the street who hasn't had much experience with horny men. But one thing is for sure, a massage lady would expect you to take care of her financially, during your romance and marriage with her. This is how she is used to dealing with men.

[QUOTE=Faith Leader; 1237905]I am a regular client to this small massage shop, she is the best. She have been giving me great massage for 10 days. Usually, she will give me the sexual massage by apply acupressure on my balls and groin area. After my cock hardened, I will usually undress her. She will obliged my caressing and perform good handjob to ejaculate me.She is a young divorcee. In the recent ocassions, I have become more daring by undressing her pants to finger her vagina. Sometimes she resisted or rejected, by the last few rounds, I was successful in fingering her and making her vagina totally wet. But she had always forcefully rejected any attempt for sex.This time, I was lucky that I visited her at 8pm and we ended pass midnite.I then undress her and complimented she is a beauty. She stroke my cock and even sucked my nipples. I managed to remove her bra and suck her shapely breasts.I attempted to remove her pants but she refused. Quite forcefully, I removed her pants but she crossed her legs to protect herself.I rest my full weight on her and use my finger to tease her vagina. She instantly became wet but still refuse to let me fuck her.I struggled a while with her resistance and continue to suck her nipples heavily until she was very aroused and confused. Then swiftly I push her legs wide apart and place my cock near the vagina. Continue to rub my cock until it entered the hole. She kept saying no in weak voice. I could sense while she say no she was still quite willing.So, I startedt to fuck harder and soon she relented and responded.All her objections and resistance disappear and soon there was total silence as she enjoy the fuck.I exploded inside and I don't know why that I continue to shoot many many times (much more than my usual shooting). The vagina was tight and the fucking was really satisfying.I let my cock remain inside even I was exhausted. When she finally asked me to pull out, I could see sperm dripping out.I gave her 500baht tip and 600baht for 2 hour oil massage, you have to visit her 2-3 times and be friend or make her remind you, some thai customer ask her for marry and not work, I hope not.[/QUOTE]You completely crossed the line mate! Let's hope the Thai man marries her so she doesn't have to continue to take abuse from w*s like you. And having done your dirty dead you only gave her 1, 100 baht. You should be ashamed because taking your money is the only enjoyment she would have had from that experience. There is a difference between massage girls that offer FS willingly and those that give in reluctantly. I've fucked hundreds of women but never once forced myself on one. You are a bad man.

I had the same problem when I visited SW, mango and victoria last year. Had to walk away except once. The reports on this forum lead you to raise your expectations quite a bit, in reality I won't let many of the girls touch me even if I am paidfor the same.Do visit some other MPs aroind, you may get lucky as it happened to me.[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1239125]Today walked into Mango and found it hard to get excited about any of the girls, even though some of them looked good on the website. The reality was somewhat ordinary looking girls (Cat was away sick). Even if their performance is great, my problem is that its just a fuck to me, since my GF is prettier than all of them and has a quite good body also (just 31 years old). She is also very enjoyable to screw, perhaps lacking in stamina and BJ ability compared to Mango girls.On the way out of Mango, a stunning girl just arrived on motor-bike and went into Pink Massage. This certainly got me interested as she was probably better looking than my GF. Seeing the real girl is way better than seeing the web sites. [url]http://www.pinkmassage2.com/girls.htm[/url] So my problem is I need very pretty girls, or at least super model bodies, otherwise I am not excited by them. I guess surveying many MPs is the only way to find them, reliably.[/QUOTE]