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Well, we all know who in USA politically benefited from the Covid virus. So just follow the trail and you can easily find why half of the US politicians were against going after China all of last year. Funny that same half is now trying to come clean LOL.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563334]Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional..[/QUOTE]JB Hunt insures each of their truckers for a million. Often that is not enough. It is one of the largest trucking companies in the country. I think the average award in a serious accident against jB Hunt is a bit more than half a million dollars, as I recall. Serious accident but not death. And that half a million is averaged over several dozens of accidents, probably hundreds. If I recall right, each year, JB Hunt drivers are involved in causing a couple of dozen fatal accidents and the awards in those cases are much higher. If a young 40 year old high earning dad or mom is killed by a reckless JBHT driver, it ruins their family forever. Awards could be in dozens of millions in such instances. Sometimes these amounts are big enough that it impacts their quarterly earnings result.
What shall be the reparation for intentional or even more benign, reckless death of several million people around the world. Could be dozens of millions if accounted properly. Let me do the math: even an award of a million per capita for 5 million people means 5 trillion dollars.
If indeed this was deliberate, how is that not a crime against humanity? We tried Nazis at Nuremberg and later some were hung.
And no, we are only accusing the regime of culpably obstructing investigations. It is not an irresponsible accusation nor is it war mongering. Biden and Fauci had shut down prior investigation but now evidence is too damning, so they reopened it.
Accusing Chinese regime is not the same as being racist against Asian Americans or any Asians. The latter is reprehensible, the former is absolutely warranted.
One of the reasons we have NPT nuclear nonproliferation treaties is that dirt bombs may not fall into the hands of terrorists. Accidentally having nuclear bombs leak into the hands of rogue elements makes the leaker just as responsible as someone who sells the bomb to a terrorist. To the people who die in the bombing, it is no comfort to know that the bomb that killed them was obtained through an accidental leak and not through a greedy sale.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2563398]Well, we all know who in USA politically benefited from the Covid virus. So just follow the trail and you can easily find why half of the US politicians were against going after China all of last year. Funny that same half is now trying to come clean LOL.[/QUOTE]What stopped Trump from really going after China in 2020? Other than coming up with Kung flu to appease his easily amused masses, he took zero action whatsoever. Too bad his thugs could not overturn the election for him on Jan 6.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563383]I have enormous respect for researchers, more so for the productive ones; and wish they would get paid more especially the ones doing truly fundamental research in academia. I have a couple of friends, extremely bright people, who spent years in lowly paid post doc roles. I did not insult you because you are a lowly researcher, I claimed you were a researcher and not a physician. That was a deduction. If I am wrong in my deduction, so be it.
I have no doubt I am a sleazeball myself for doing what I am doing, but I cover my tracks well and one can't be hurt by what they do not know. Not a rationalization, just a fact so far. And you would have more credibility with your insults if you demonstrated that you stayed loyal after 15+ years of marriage but you can't. From Gates and Bezos on, many men I respect have cheated; at least in my defense I am good in terms of my support and deeds otherwise.
Boomer. Whatever. In a year, you would have reached that status yourself and one of the things you pride most about yourself would be gone, forever. Poor baby.[/QUOTE]I have all the room to talk because I knew to not make that empty promise in the first place. Making promises you can't keep is nothing to be proud of dude.
If you can lie to the person you most love, your life partner, your teammate, you can lie to anyone. That is why you're the type that can't be trusted, ever. 15 years of marriage and a lifetime of infidelity. Yet here you are, calling someone else a slime ball. Your words have no meaning. You're just another cookie cutter, life by the recipe, color by numbers, corporate dork.
Nah man, the older I get, the better I get. Except that damn shoulder. Bugger's been giving me fits! Anyway, I'm getting some salt and pepper grays on the side. It looks great!
The thing I most pride myself are my personal relationships. Honest relationships. Mutually beneficial relationships. Entertaining relationships. Unique Relationships between people with interesting life experiences and worldviews. You on the other hand seem to be a generic slave of corporate institutions with a low "interesting human" factor. A blah human. In fact, that would be the best name for you, Blah. As in, no real personality. Certainly no character, no interesting hobbies, no interesting stories, no interesting experiences, no interesting points of views. Just a Blah human living a Blah life with Blah expectations. The movie American Beauty comes to mind when I imagine how boring your miserable life must be.
Have a good day Blah. Or a Blah day, whatever.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2563347]Video and transcript: [URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T[/URL].
Creating the backbone of a virulent virus from scratch is virtually impossible. So the only known way to produce a new deadly virus inside of a lab is to use an existing backbone. The recycled backbone approach allows for two options.
Existing backbone, option one: random additions, deletions:
Existing backbone, option two, mutating an existing virus:[/QUOTE]See my addendum that posted after your reply. The original just explained how China could feasibly have modified a more virulent virus if that was the intention. I agree that evolution in nature and circulation is the more likely course. Isolating the virus and causing a local lab leak in heavily populated Wuhan is also entirely plausible. Manipulation of a less virulent strain found in nature is also possible. Like your paper states, there are many adaptations in the virus that likely developed during normal circulation in a population. The spike protein however seemed inconsistent with expectations, hence the Shotgun Approach theory, I. E. Selective Kitchen Sink.
But again, refer to my reply for my actual suspicions.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2563386]There have however for years been a shift towards liberalizing and legalizing the p6 law. And even rewriting what constitutes a pimp. Mainly among the youth parties, as the divide between the young generation z and the boomers / get why seems to be a strong one in this case. That is how all the right wing parties shifted. And it seems to be the trend across the left side also, just that it takes longer there.
There is also a joke sentiment to everything related to Swedish politics sometimes. So being anti Swedish can even be an argument of itself when we see the swedes be naive.[/QUOTE]Why am I getting censored so heavily? This is ridiculous!
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563305]Point of contention and a personal one as it affects my daily life with PPE requirements.
It's not actually aerosol. It's mainly droplet. By happenstance, it may become aerosolized temporarily under high pressure such as sneezes or medical respiratory devices.
Main point, it being a droplet disease, simple face coverings prevent most transmission. Transient aerosolization (becoming airborne) happens buy that's not the actual mode of transmission. All that focus on sanitizing surfaces and wearing full hazmat suits is quite a waste of resources. That is unless people are sucking the air from other people's sneezes or licking surfaces after an infected person recently just coughed on it.
Get vaccinated or just plop on a simple face covering and transmission would be negligible.[/QUOTE]Clinical precision, as usual!
Kind of stuff which can happen when the anti vaxxers get totally freaking nuts:
[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/tennessee-woman-arrested-speeding-covid-19-vaccination-tent/story?id=77937352&cid=social_twitter_abcn[/URL]#CS1-6.
Amateurs always go by gut instinct. This is another fact.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563413]If indeed this was deliberate, how is that not a crime against humanity? We tried Nazis at Nuremberg and later some were hung.[/QUOTE]If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563413]And no, we are only accusing the regime of culpably obstructing investigations. It is not an irresponsible accusation nor is it war mongering.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you, but not the other.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563413]Accusing Chinese regime is not the same as being racist against Asian Americans or any Asians.[/QUOTE]Who said it was?
Do better Blah.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2563484]Why am I getting censored so heavily? This is ridiculous![/QUOTE]Baby needs his binkie. Must have missed his nap.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2563543]Amateurs always go by gut instinct. This is another fact.[/QUOTE]Not sure you know the meaning of the word fact.
Amateurs usually go by textbook protocol. That is a hallmark of novices. People not even on the field of play however often try to act like infallible experts. See "Armchair Quarterback".
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563565]If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?[/QUOTE]The person to whose butt you are so firmly attached claims the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Your own statements have been suspiciously supportive of the CCP regime in this thread. When a doofus claims no investigation is warranted because it could never have happened, then the claim "if it was indeed deliberate, we are supportive of holding them responsible" is useless. You will never establish the culpability w / o an investigation and McA's posts have not demanded any investigations but he has posted several comments justifying his view that the cuddly Xi regime could never have done that (and so have you).
It is fine if you guys feel some allegiance to some ancestral lands but that won't change the responsibility for the genocide perpetrated by those mass murderers if they had indeed leaked it deliberately. Even an accidental leak would mean they killed millions around the world through their sheer incompetence and negligence.
Anyway, it is useless to discuss these things with a street thug like you.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563565]If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?
Perhaps you, but not the other.
Who said it was?
Do better Blah.[/QUOTE]And as usual, you (and MCA. Just as I predicted0 are evasive. The question was about reparations. You made the claim that some reparations are warranted and in the past, your solution was that in return for the crime of murdering millions around the world, China should give a vaccine (that does not even work) for free. McA of course came up with his "they already suffered enough because Hua Wei was punished' theory. Unreal.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563422]I have all the room to talk because I knew to not make that empty promise in the first place. Making promises you can't keep is nothing to be proud of dude.
If you can lie to the person you most love, your life partner, your teammate, you can lie to anyone. That is why you're the type that can't be trusted, ever. 15 years of marriage and a lifetime of infidelity. Yet here you are, calling someone else a slime ball. Your words have no meaning. You're just another cookie cutter, life by the recipe, color by numbers, corporate dork.
Nah man, the older I get, the better I get. Except that damn shoulder. Bugger's been giving me fits! Anyway, I'm getting some salt and pepper grays on the side. It looks great!
The thing I most pride myself are my personal relationships. Honest relationships. Mutually beneficial relationships. Entertaining relationships. Unique Relationships between people with interesting life experiences and worldviews. You on the other hand seem to be a generic slave of corporate institutions with a low "interesting human" factor. A blah human. In fact, that would be the best name for you, Blah. As in, no real personality. Certainly no character, no interesting hobbies, no interesting stories, no interesting experiences, no interesting points of views. Just a Blah human living a Blah life with Blah expectations. The movie American Beauty comes to mind when I imagine how boring your miserable life must be.
Have a good day Blah. Or a Blah day, whatever.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. Well, you got one thing right, I am pretty happy to be boring. Most people have boring, normal lives. You appear to be one of those dysfunctional people who lives on the edge and thinks borderline kooky behavior makes you look interesting. You will only spiral down in life. And what fucking relationships do you have? With the hookers you bang for 50? I bet you get sentimental and have endless chats with the WGs in the clubs and thinks that implies they love you. Hint: they don't. It is just a pre-sales pitch for their next heist on you; I would not be surprised if you love all the Asian hunters too.
Considering you worship the CCP regime, it is certainly strange that you think corporations are slave owners. Well, in our case, we are a small sized firm in the scheme of things, but America runs on its corporations. By your definition, most Americans are slaves and some slave owners. And yet you love the CCP. Interesting.
Speaking of old movies, you remind me of the Anne Hathaway character in Rachel Getting Married: high on drugs (check), borderline psychotic (check, but more than borderline), and destroying everyone in their family (most likely, if you are being honest but you will not be), and thinks her / his life is interesting (if being a street thug is interesting).