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[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1268701]The subject here is paying for pussy not dating.

This is a mongers forum, if you're not a monger why are you here?

Just for the pleasure you seem to get from insulting and antagonizing perhaps?

If you're not a monger then you're a civilian, and we don't need civilians telling mongers how much we should pay for pussy.

I don't dispute that your not cheap, but the 'bastard' part, well that's very disputable![/QUOTE]Thank you for enlightening some of us regarding what you purport to be the sole purpose of this board. If Jackson wanted to limit it to the purpose that purpose, there would not be a couple of dozen topics ranging from hotels to restaurants, living in the Phils, opinions and advice, politics, etc. Apologies about the "cheap bastard" remark. Cheap Charlie may have been better put.

Probably best to leave the 500 php pissing match alone now.

[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1268701]The subject here is paying for pussy not dating.

This is a mongers forum, if you're not a monger why are you here?

Just for the pleasure you seem to get from insulting and antagonizing perhaps?

If you're not a monger then you're a civilian, and we don't need civilians telling mongers how much we should pay for pussy.

I don't dispute that your not cheap, but the 'bastard' part, well that's very disputable![/QUOTE]I've heard about speculators driving up prices in the oil and housing markets but this is the first time I've heard about non-mongers driving up prices on the pussy market by speculating on how much mongers should pay for pussy. LOL

Do I have to be a monger or a civilian? I'm not even sure what that means Punter. When I hear monger, I only think "fish monger".

I'm not really sure what you guys are disagreeing about. 1.5k is low ball in Mnl (depending on the venue) , but quite a hefty tip just an hour north in AC. Hell, you can find a pretty big range from one end of Fields in Ac to the other end of the same street with the differnet name. Perimeter.

I'm a regular visitor and I get some damn good lovin. And I envy you guys who live in P. Nevertheless, if someone is on a biz trip and has a few free hours on Burgos. 5k might seem like a bargain. It's all relative.

If anyone would like to bare their souls, what is the most you paid, or the least? (free?). Or more interesting is what is the least you piad (cheap charlie or just absent minded) and REGRETTED it. Conversly, what is the most you paid and realized it was poor value or you were duped. X.

[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1268701]The subject here is paying for pussy not dating.

This is a mongers forum, if you're not a monger why are you here?

Just for the pleasure you seem to get from insulting and antagonizing perhaps?

If you're not a monger then you're a civilian, and we don't need civilians telling mongers how much we should pay for pussy.

I don't dispute that your not cheap, but the 'bastard' part, well that's very disputable![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slippery;1268768]Thank you for enlightening some of us regarding what you purport to be the sole purpose of this board. If Jackson wanted to limit it to the purpose that purpose, there would not be a couple of dozen topics ranging from hotels to restaurants, living in the Phils, opinions and advice, politics, etc.[/quote]I didn't say it was the 'sole purpose' and I would never claim to speak for Jackson but I think it's safe to say that those threads are spin-offs and not part of the primary purpose of the forum. Perhaps you should RTFF starting with 'The Purpose of the Forum'.

Ever seen this?

[Quote]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You!

[url]http://www.internatonalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_postingadvisories#100[/url][/quote]I don't think he's talking about the dating.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1268768]Apologies about the "cheap bastard" remark. Cheap Charlie may have been better put.[/quote]I would like to accept your apology and move on but it comes across rather faint hearted, and it's to little to late. I find 'Cheap Charlie' just as offensive as 'Cheap Bastard, ' especially coming from a guy that admits he has no mongering experience!

[QUOTE=Slippery;1268768]Probably best to leave the 500 php pissing match alone now.[/QUOTE]You should have left it alone to begin with considering you have NO experience. It's rude, crass Americans like you that give the rest of us a bad name. I hate rude people, and it's really a shame that even with all your higher education you didn't learn about manners.

In the future I hope you will offer something of substance and refrain from attacking other members.

Nuff said.

[QUOTE=X Man;1268995]Do I have to be a monger or a civilian? I'm not even sure what that means Punter. When I hear monger, I only think "fish monger". [snip][/quote]Monger can be found in the 'Forum Abbreviations' list.

Monger
[i]"Short for W h o r e monger. One who frequents prostitutes."[/i]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_abbreviations[/url]

Civilian can also be found in the Abbreviations list, however in this case the following definition would apply.

Civilian.

[i]'Anyone regarded by members of a profession, interest group, society, etc, as not belonging; nonprofessional; outsider:' [/i]

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/civilian[/url]

[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1269025]Monger can be found in the 'Forum Abbreviations' list.

Monger.

[i]"Short for W h o are e monger. One who frequents prostitutes."[/i]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_abbreviations[/url]

Civilian can also be found in the Abbreviations list, however in this case the following definition would apply.

Civilian.

[i]'Anyone regarded by members of a profession, interest group, society, etc, as not belonging; nonprofessional; outsider:' [/i]

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/civilian[/url][/QUOTE]The bottom line? If you've got to ask in which category you belong, you're a civilian.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1268400]Yeah, that's about $11. 00 more. I don't know how long I could hang around at that price. If I had to worry about $11.00 a night, I wouldn't even frigg'n go there. WTF??[/QUOTE]It is 50% so $11 counts here, I can feed 8 girls for $2 that is 6 meals, I pay 500 peso for girls so to me 1500 is 300% what I pay.

[QUOTE=Slippery; 1268676]There is a distinction between between respecting money and being a wastrel as there also is between respecting money and being a Cheap Charlie. You live on a fixed income. I don't. I financed and paid for my universtity and post-grad education. You don't think I sacrificed for that and don't know the value of money? That was 8 frigg'and years of my life and 8 frigg'and years of sacrifice and then another 10 years after that to pay it all off. Other than dinner and drinks, I don't pay for pussy, period. The last time I did that was so long ago that the statute of limitations on it has already run. Apparently you are too cheap to do dinner and drinks. Perhaps you don't even have the social skills to do that. If a date is going to cost 1, 500 php for dinner and drinks and then back to my place, I don't really care. A good time was had by all. If a cabbie tries to clip me for 500 php on the way home, I certainly do care. I travel and pay for lodging and incidentals on my own dime and not somebody else's. No company pays for those and I have no expense account.

I am either regretfully or fortunately still working. My income is not fixed. It fluctuates. It can go anywhere from zero to thousands a week. I don't know anything about managing money after nearly 30 years of that? I certainly do, however, unlike you, I am not a cheap bastard.[/QUOTE]WOW you really get worked up. BTW any day you are making more than zero, you are getting over paid.

I did not bother to read the history but why spend 1500 on dinner when the girls want money, unless you are going to marry them do not date them for sex, even old fat men like me can get free pussy here lying to girls with dinner dates. But you will get more sex and better looking girls if you just hand over the cash and P4P.

Bellow are my paid sex girls

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1269079]I can feed 8 girls for $2 that is 6 meals[/QUOTE]OK I am not going to ask what are you feeding them haha

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1269303]OK I am not going to ask what are you feeding them haha[/QUOTE]Ginaling, mongoes, bambe are some of the cebu dishes, I pay $2 and rice and it feeds 8, I can also buy a whole chicken for $3. I admit my girls do not each much that's why I like skinny

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1269084]WOW you really get worked up. BTW any day you are making more than zero, you are getting over paid.

I did not bother to read the history but why spend 1500 on dinner when the girls want money, unless you are going to marry them do not date them for sex, even old fat men like me can get free pussy here lying to girls with dinner dates. But you will get more sex and better looking girls if you just hand over the cash and P4P.

Bellow are my paid sex girls[/QUOTE]Nice pics, Frenzy. Thanks. Sometimes it's nice to treat the girls to a dinner but in general I agree.

Hi All,

First, I wanted to send a shout out to GE. Thank you, GE, for your wisdom and guidance on these boards. I, for one, look forward to your posts, and I do appreciate your prior responses to my questions.

I have a question about the "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]" laws in the Philippines. This entire conversation assumes we are talking about women over the age of 18. I wanted to post the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] laws for your review:

[url]http://www.chanrobles.com/republicactno9208.html[/url]

For the record, I am personally safe and sound in the US, and not currently in trouble with Filipino law. I want to educate myself and my fellow hobbyists on this board about the relevant laws of the Philipppines. I realize that you guys are not Filipino lawyers. Neither am I. However, we are mostly business persons and we do now how to read the law and share viewpoints in the spirit of keeping our brothers out of trouble.

My question is: How do I conduct my affairs with regard to ADULT filipinas and prostitution so as to minimize my criminal liablity with respect to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] laws? If I am simply a "John" (end user of an act of prostitution) at MBC, Edsa Entertainment Complex, P. Burgos, or of the other hundreds of bars in areas outside of Manila, I think I am pretty much OK, even though the law does call for a maximum fine of 2 million pesos. However, if I in am Frenzy3's situation, do the same laws apply? I will humbly admit that I do not know the details of Frenzy3's "arrangement", but I am concerned if Section 5 (a) applies (which carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years in prison). What if I fly a girl in from the provinces to spend time with me in Manila, is that trafficking?

I can appreciate the fact that there are people in the Philippines whose profession is taking advantage of young, poverty stricken women. I've read the horror stories about filipinas who have found themselves in some pretty dire straits, often in foreign countries, often as the result of promises that were untrue from the onset. One example is the "Come be a maid in Indonesia" scams, where they take their passport upon arrival and then force them into Prostitution, charging them a small fortune for their room and board.

I have asked qualified people who work in Law Enforcement and criminal defense in the Philippines on this matter, and the responses that I have received thus far is that the dividing line is whether or not you are trying to make money exploiting Filipinas. If you are simply the end user of an act of prostitution, then this is a lesser crime. However, if you are trying to make money from sex acts of a filipina, you are opening up a whole new world of stiffer criminal sanctions, some of which have minimum mandatory life prison sentences. There was a Swede who received a life sentence last year in CDO for engaging in a webcam syndicate. The law does inded require a life sentence. Section 10 (see) says "Shall receive a life sentence", not "may receive a life sentence". The difference between "Shall" and "may" is a very big difference.

Please keep in mind what my question is and IS NOT. I am NOT asking what I should do if I get hassled by a crooked cop on the way back from MBC with a girl in tow. I am asking specifically about the "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] laws" vs a normal action of prostitution.

Here is how Filipono law defines Trafficking:

(a) Trafficking in Persons. Refers to the recruitment, transportation, transfer or harboring, or receipt of persons with or without the victim's consent or knowledge, within or across national borders by means of threat or use of force, or other forms of coercion, abduction, fraud, deception, abuse of power or of position, taking advantage of the vulnerability of the person, or, the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person for the purpose of exploitation which includes at a minimum, the exploitation or the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labor or services, slavery, servitude or the removal or sale of organs.

Thank you,

Signed,

"What your name? Where you from?"

I'm leaving for Manila in a weeks time-I'm staying 3 nightsatNew World then flying to Cebu on Friday. I know the traffic is brutal in Manila and was wondering what flight departure time would be best to avoid long traffic delays. I'm a regular in Latin America and this will be my first time going to Asia-just want to try something different. Pm me if you like.

Thanks Guys

Sabalo, It's not the vehicle traffic to be concerned about. Check-in can, and has taken me longer on almost every occasion. Generally, give 4 hours from hotel to boarding your flight.

[QUOTE=Sabalo;1269678]I'm leaving for Manila in a weeks time-I'm staying 3 nightsatNew World then flying to Cebu on Friday. I know the traffic is brutal in Manila and was wondering what flight departure time would be best to avoid long traffic delays.[/QUOTE]Friday is the most brutal day of all for traffic in Manila, and especially after midday until around 10pm at night.

I suggest that you book the early morning flight in order to miss most traffic.

As Noddy says, beating the traffic is only half the problem. You then have to line up for security checks and ticket check in but if you have carry-on bags with Cebu Pacific you can go to an express check-in line.

I suggest that you should leave New World Hotel around 3 hours before your flight