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[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2295290]Damn reading some of this is kind of nuts. You guys are lumping everyone in a culture and country in one boat. True a lot of stereotypes here do often happen, but it's often because the foreigner lets it. I've been married to a Pinay for like 5 years, her family has sent us more money than we have sent them. I make great money, way up into six figures. She has specifically told her family they are not to ask me for money. My wife would also never leave our kid, she hasn't been to a baby sitter for even an hour ever. If you put the time in and research you will know who you are ending up with. If she's a hooker she will always be one, there's millions easily available not sure why anyone would grab a bar girl but to each their own.[/QUOTE]Well done on your good catch Sir. We mongers lump everyone in one boat because they all fit the stereotype perfectly. Mongers only mix with the lower echelons of society. The poor, the uneducated and one's with a million greedy relatives in the provinces. All of the hookers we meet are uniformly stupid, ungrateful, scheming and world class liars. I'm yet to meet one who doesn't fit the stereotype. If they were any better, they wouldn't be hookers. We don't get the opportunity to meet educated, middle class people so we will never know.
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True.
Thank you ED for the true and poetic reality presented of the mongering world.
Vic.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2295399]Well done on your good catch Sir. We mongers lump everyone in one boat because they all fit the stereotype perfectly. Mongers only mix with the lower echelons of society. The poor, the uneducated and one's with a million greedy relatives in the provinces. All of the hookers we meet are uniformly stupid, ungrateful, scheming and world class liars. I'm yet to meet one who doesn't fit the stereotype. If they were any better, they wouldn't be hookers. We don't get the opportunity to meet educated, middle class people so we will never know.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2295399]Mongers only mix with the lower echelons of society.[/QUOTE]I agree with your sentiment but would say Western Mongers occupy the middle of the market. Most would be shit scared in the true low end slum brothels and don't have the opportunity to join the invitation-only high end.
Enjoy. G.
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You might be surprised.
There is no need to take a bar girl as a girlfriend or wife.
Filipinas are generally living, caring, sexually giving women. They enjoy pleasing and taking care of their man and without any reluctance want to take care of you.
I lived in Thailand for many years. I had three long term girlfriends and thought it was nirvana. Then I discovered The Philippines. What a revelation.
I must admit I was looking for fun and excitement. I started going through Manila to Bangkok. I went on a well know website and within two weeks had chatted with and had names and numbers if over 25 for sure dates. I explained I was older could not make babies wanted bareback and would call when I arrived. I stayed. She knew I was fucking other girls but really wanted to go to a movie. Greenbe, t 3 6 days and fucked 9 girls. All bb all total GF experience and all educated with jobs. Only one asked for money but I gave each a little bit. Bought no presents and promised nothing.
One woman 50 insisted she would meet me at 1 am when I arrived at the hotel. I made clear if she came she needed to be gone by 7 am. I arrived at 2 am. She was waiting in the lobby. Came up and immediately took a shower. For 50 she had a great body and fucked me for hours. One by one the others showed up and did as promised.
One girl had a small store. 35. Tall the best tits I had personally experienced and came back for a few hours in the afternoon on the third day.
We went to Greenbelt cinema sat in the back and she blew me. Very horny and one great fuck. I was to meet her the next trip but was In Cebu and could not return quickly. Have to say she was incredible but not sure how stable so did not pursue her.
Am now living in Manila with a wonderful 30 year other mother of two boys and so wonderful.
More if interested.
The purpose of this diatribe is to advise those to pursue girls other than the hardened bar girls.
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[QUOTE=JohnaCarson;2295662]There is no need to take a bar girl as a girlfriend or wife.
Filipinas are generally living, caring, sexually giving women. They enjoy pleasing and taking care of their man and without any reluctance want to take care of you.
I lived in Thailand for many years. I had three long term girlfriends and thought it was nirvana. Then I discovered The Philippines. What a revelation.
I must admit I was looking for fun and excitement. I started going through Manila to Bangkok. I went on a well know website and within two weeks had chatted with and had names and numbers if over 25 for sure dates. I explained I was older could not make babies wanted bareback and would call when I arrived. I stayed. She knew I was fucking other girls but really wanted to go to a movie. Greenbe, t 3 6 days and fucked 9 girls. All bb all total GF experience and all educated with jobs. Only one asked for money but I gave each a little bit. Bought no presents and promised nothing.
One woman 50 insisted she would meet me at 1 am when I arrived at the hotel. I made clear if she came she needed to be gone by 7 am. I arrived at 2 am. She was waiting in the lobby. Came up and immediately took a shower. For 50 she had a great body and fucked me for hours. One by one the others showed up and did as promised.
One girl had a small store. 35. Tall the best tits I had personally experienced and came back for a few hours in the afternoon on the third day.
We went to Greenbelt cinema sat in the back and she blew me. Very horny and one great fuck. I was to meet her the next trip but was In Cebu and could not return quickly. Have to say she was incredible but not sure how stable so did not pursue her.
Am now living in Manila with a wonderful 30 year other mother of two boys and so wonderful.
More if interested.
The purpose of this diatribe is to advise those to pursue girls other than the hardened bar girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks to share your experience.
And I agree totally with you, even if my exp if very short compared to your, but for my last trip in Phil the horniest was the 30 one mother of 3 childs, working abroad, and back in Phil to find another abroad contract. I took very GFE time with her. No money asked, even if I gave some gifts. Another was 26, known on dating site since 3 years, working as caregiver in an expat house in Makati, beautiful one, and I want to share more time with her next time. And two others quite same, youg ones, but not WG at all, in fact I was in Durban hotel, crossing Burgos every day, but never entered in any club. Really not my taste, but I can understand those who like clubs.
And based on all contacts I get from 35 to 50 womens in DIA, yes, there is another bunch of women really ready to meet westerners. But in fact I try to target lower than 30 anyway.
And also no money asked by any of the girls I met in this trip.
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I do not think that anyone is disputing that the average Filipina is easy to fuck. To the contrary, most are saying that the average Filipina is extremely easy to fuck and tends to lie compulsively. Their sexual looseness is really the only thing that foreign men rave about.
Mongers get poor uneducated Filipinas, single mommies, low social status women, and other unmarriageable rejects. The attractive educated girls from wealthy families want nothing to do with foreign sex mongers and their geriatric penises. Sorry, but the Philippines is just not giving foreign mongers their best women. There is really no point in trying to elevate these little brown fuck monsters above their status as greedy little cum receptacles. LOL! Accept and enjoy them for what they are but do let them fool you into marriage for migration. They are great for fucking but after you cum please put them back where you found them so the other fella can have a go at that puss.
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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2295163]So there is this Pinay chick I am friends with on FB after having banged her a couple of years ago. She has landed a Norwegian gent and for the last few weeks she was posting non stop on FB announcing her upcoming trip to Oslo. (Yeah. I know what you are thinking now! You know, pics of passport, pics of embassy, pics of shopping done, a countdown, etc.[/QUOTE]It is those inspirational posts that motivate the at home girls to fuck all the foreigners in the hope of getting a ticket.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2295399] Mongers only mix with the lower echelons of society. The poor, the uneducated and one's with a million greedy relatives in the provinces. All of the hookers we meet are uniformly stupid, ungrateful, scheming and world class liars.
<SNIP> We don't get the opportunity to meet educated, middle class people so we will never know.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately your stereotype of filipina hookers is probably close to the mark except for your use of the word "uniformly". I have met some very sweet, polite and lovely women working in bars because they say they have no other options but of course that is debatable. They are mostly uneducated because life dealt them a bad hand, but uneducated doesn't necessarily equate with stupid, although many of them have very silly ideas.
In my work environment and after 20+ years living here in Phils I can honestly say that I have been able to meet a plethora of "educated, middle class people" (women and men) and I can categorically say that they are uniformly exceptional workers who would match it with any other professionals in any other part of the world. The IT geeks (men & women) are very talented. ED is correct in saying that 2-week tourists really don't get an opportunity to meet the genuine middle-class being pre-occupied with low rank service staff at a variety of levels, and hookers are a sub-set of that.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;2295750]....but uneducated doesn't necessarily equate with stupid....[/QUOTE]Amen to that.
I agree with your subsequent comments about Filipinos in the formal economy. In the informal economy, that we are all more familiar with, I'd challenge anyone to out smart or out maneuver a Mamasan.
Enjoy. G.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2295753]I'd challenge anyone to out smart or out maneuver a Mamasan.[/QUOTE]What does this mean? Are you challenging us to try to cheat them or something? What would it take for us to report back that we have successfully outsmarted them?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2295765]What does this mean? Are you challenging us to try to cheat them or something? What would it take for us to report back that we have successfully outsmarted them?[/QUOTE]Jeez, you do take everything very literally.
RK mentioned that many Filipinas are uneducated but this may not equate to stupidity. I agreed and made the comment you mentioned to point out that Mamasans may also be uneducated but are very heavy in street smarts. I doubt there are any BS excuses or tricks that mongers have tried that they have lot seen or heard of a million times before.
Again, I was not expecting anyone to (dis) prove the point but if you feel a need to, you are free to submit any "evidence" that makes you happy.
Cheers. G.
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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2295163]So there is this Pinay chick I am friends with on FB after having banged her a couple of years ago. She has landed a Norwegian gent and for the last few weeks she was posting non stop on FB announcing her upcoming trip to Oslo. (Yeah. I know what you are thinking now! You know, pics of passport, pics of embassy, pics of shopping done, a countdown, etc.
And then today she has reached Oslo and guess what her first post is.
I am missing home and my friends and family.
Jeez! Strike me Lord with lightning.[/QUOTE]I think this happens a lot as it is a huge cultural change for a pinay who may never have been outside her home town let alone to a country that has temperatures less than 10 C LOL. Many take a long time to adjust and have difficulty is adapting to an environment where there is no family around all the time, no relatives around, no noise of chatter etc and no TFC to watch endless stupid TV shows. And for some it is not the USA that they believe is the source of everything good and wonderful LOL.
For many the realization that they are in the real world is daunting, terrifying and very lonely despite the presence of many pinay groups and clubs in the area. Some won't join though because of the chismis issues!
I know one pinay who moved to the USA all happy as Larry except one small thing after she arrived. When she got there she found her home was a trailer in Oregon in the middle of nowhere, was freezing cold, his parents lived in same trailer etc and was bored out of her skull, lonely, depressed, not happy and moaned to me a lot about it. So ended up shagging men from the local town that she met when she went there for shopping (she said most were a stupid but at least had some life in them and nice todger as well at times LOL). All in all very sad and depressing.
Others I know of got a job (any job) worked hard, integrated and then got the passport also.
But it takes time and for the guy lots of patience at times to understand what is happening to his honeyko.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2295967]I think this happens a lot as it is a huge cultural change for a pinay who may never have been outside her home town let alone to a country that has temperatures less than 10 C LOL. Many take a long time to adjust and have difficulty is adapting to an environment where there is no family around all the time, no relatives around, no noise of chatter etc and no TFC to watch endless stupid TV shows. And for some it is not the USA that they believe is the source of everything good and wonderful LOL.
For many the realization that they are in the real world is daunting, terrifying and very lonely despite the presence of many pinay groups and clubs in the area. Some won't join though because of the chismis issues!
I know one pinay who moved to the USA all happy as Larry except one small thing after she arrived. When she got there she found her home was a trailer in Oregon in the middle of nowhere, was freezing cold, his parents lived in same trailer etc and was bored out of her skull, lonely, depressed, not happy and moaned to me a lot about it. So ended up shagging men from the local town that she met when she went there for shopping (she said most were a stupid but at least had some life in them and nice todger as well at times LOL). All in all very sad and depressing.
Others I know of got a job (any job) worked hard, integrated and then got the passport also.
But it takes time and for the guy lots of patience at times to understand what is happening to his honeyko.[/QUOTE]It is typical behavior for Filipinas to go shopping for younger harder cocks once foreign husband imports her to his country. It does not matter whether the trailer is warm or cold, she will be out test-driving the unlimited selection of strange cocks in town. Filipinas feature heavy in Asian interracial porn and many men will avail of the opportunity to fuck a LBFM without the expense of international travel. Therefore, the fellas appreciate hubby importing honey-ko for them to root at the local motel.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2295967]
I know one pinay who moved to the USA all happy as Larry except one small thing after she arrived. When she got there she found her home was a trailer in Oregon in the middle of nowhere, was freezing cold, his parents lived in same trailer etc and was bored out of her skull, lonely, depressed, not happy and moaned to me a lot about it.
But it takes time and for the guy lots of patience at times to understand what is happening to his honeyko.[/QUOTE]I keep in touch with my previous non hooker girlfriends. I know few who got married to guys in different countries. Norway, Sweden, USA, Iceland.
None are happy. They say they thought their husbands are rich and they can have a happy life. Many live in isolated farms and hand to mouth existence. Husbands want wife to work. All have children from previous marriages. All expect frequent sex. And taken care of like a servant. Couple of girls just moved back because of totally depressed and did not get any money when they left.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2296235]I keep in touch with my previous non hooker girlfriends. I know few who got married to guys in different countries. Norway, Sweden, USA, Iceland.
None are happy. They say they thought their husbands are rich and they can have a happy life. Many live in isolated farms and hand to mouth existence. Husbands want wife to work. All have children from previous marriages. All expect frequent sex. And taken care of like a servant. Couple of girls just moved back because of totally depressed and did not get any money when they left.[/QUOTE]More Pinays are conned and taken advantage of than the other way around. A low life may elevate his status in Philippines but returns home the same.
Once a low life always a low life.