Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2872780]Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).[/QUOTE]Damn, I hate to self-quote, but just slow in my old age and missed the edit window.

To those who say Chat-u-chak has no place on a punting site, I say au contraire. It makes a GREAT excuse to escape [I] inquisitive[/I] eyes, for those that need to. "No, you don't want to go, it's HOT and CROWDED, I'll check it out first". Quick BTS or MRT ride, an hour truly shopping, a ride back to town, and you've got a couple of hours [I]free time[/I]. And if you've bought something, alibi confirmed. Just make sure it's the weekend.

Who in Thailand would want to watch a woman make rotis? I suspect most her viewers and 330 K subscribers are in the West, interested in the life of an attractive woman in Asia having to work so hard with her food cart.

Other coffee makers in Thailand and street food vendors in Asia are also on YouTube, but without revealing attire like Puy, and do not gather millions views. Whoever stages her 4 K videos did a good job dressing her up in fancy, revealing clothes showing lots of skin, big, happy smiles and fast, skillful hands. Got to admit she looks attractive in that sexy attire.

YouTube pay outs are high for Western views, so she may be making closer to $900 K a year, a big chunk of money in Thailand and a very good deal. With all that money she can quit the roti business and keep a couple farangs as sex slaves LOL.

Somebody took videos of her sleeping in bed in the morning before she woke up to get ready to work. Cameraman likely gets to sleep with her in the same bed.

She said it took a lot of time to do the videos in addition to her roti job and asked viewers for support, but never mentioned who does the videos. She also hung the phone on the cart to video herself working. Videos showed no computer or editing equipment in her apartment. There are no pictures of husband or BF in her Instagram account.

Roti is a common snack in Thailand. There must be hundreds other roti makers with the same or better skills, but none wears attractive, sexy attires showing lots of skin like her LOL.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2872864]Somebody took videos of her sleeping in bed in the morning before she woke up to get ready to work. Cameraman likely gets to sleep with her in the same bed. [b]There are no pictures of husband or BF in her Instagram account[/b][/QUOTE]There are pictures of her husband/boyfriend and young kids on her Instagram account ... September 2021 and prior.

There are always exceptions, but generally Asians tend to avoid conflicts, unlikely to complain or confront.

I heard comments from a few people in hotel management in Asia. Among various visitors, the frequency of problems they encounter from high to low: Africans, Indians, Chinese, Taiwanese, Koreans, Japanese. They did not mention Caucasians. I am not trying to denigrate any specific group, only relaying info from reliable sources.

Japanese are a very formal people. They are not used to haggling. Guys would act like perfect gentlemen, pay whatever the girls ask and accept whatever services they receive without complaining or causing scenes. If they are not happy, they would quietly take their business somewhere else.

Bar girls like Japanese because they are generous and unlikely to cause problems. One of my wingmen in Tijuana is a Japanese American guy, nice, cool, calm, collect, like a Buddha. By his demeanors people would feel he's honest, reasonable, unlikely to break out in emotional outbursts and would never hurt a fly. A well-known tough and difficult bar girl, pretty like Barbie doll, acts cold and rough to most guys and girls, but would drape herself over him and coo to him like he was a baby. Go figure.

I know a few difficult US civie women, went through multiple divorces with Asian and Caucasian spouses, settled down with Japanese American guys and are happy for life. Perhaps they feel these guys are nicer, more honest, reliable, trustworthy than others?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2872891]There are always exceptions, but generally Asians tend to avoid conflicts, unlikely to complain or confront.[/QUOTE]Definitely.

Asians in general, and Thais definitely, don't want to lose face in a given situation. In Thailand, there's [I]Krang Jai[/I]. Thailand is a very complicated hierarchical system, where your [I]power[/I] in society is determined by many things. Just the simple wai, notice how different it is depending on the situation: who does it first, how high on the face are the fingers, how long, etc. , etc. I learned a very long time ago I'd never figure out how to do it properly, so I reserve mine for monks and people older (few and far between) than myself. I like this description of Krang Jai: your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain. And just because a Thai is smiling and seemingly nodding in agreement, doesn't necessarily mean he's happy and agreeing with you. A facade to smooth society's interactions' [I]sandpaper[/I], and everyone just gets along with life. Certainly a lot better than other socienty's Glock [I]solutions[/I], so they just might be onto something.

The biggest pointer I can give you is to ignore the dipshits on here.

- Stay anywhere between Sukhumvit Soi 2 and the Asoke intersection.

- All reports indicate smooth immigration experience since visa-free was announced.

- Budgets: Depends where you go and what you want, but have a look at this for starters: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2825648[/URL]#post2825648.

- Indians not allowed: It all depends on the kind of Indian you want to be. So have a look at this thread for pointers: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand[/URL].

Have fun and report back your escapades.

Pulse.

[QUOTE=DicPussy;2872743]I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.

Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.

Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?

Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.

Thanks.

DP.[/QUOTE]

Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.

I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.

Worth a go.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2872780]Forget a cab, just take the BTS or MRT. Extensive coverage, growing by the day (though no idea where the Pink line would take you). But from Siam, it's a straight shot on the BTS to Asok, Phrom Phong, or Thong Lo. Plenty of what you're looking for at any of those stops.

Agreed. Check out Sakura Akasuri
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2871925&viewfull=1#post2871925[/url]
short walk on Soi 55 from Thong Lo.

Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).[/QUOTE]Thank god. Tissue box holders. My life is complete.

[QUOTE=Pulse0101;2873058]The biggest pointer I can give you is to ignore the dipshits on here.

- Stay anywhere between Sukhumvit Soi 2 and the Asoke intersection.

- All reports indicate smooth immigration experience since visa-free was announced.

- Budgets: Depends where you go and what you want, but have a look at this for starters: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2825648[/URL]#post2825648.

- Indians not allowed: It all depends on the kind of Indian you want to be. So have a look at this thread for pointers: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for advice. Appreciated. Was not aware of Indian thread on BKK.

Thanks.

DP.

11 Bravo,

Very insightful of Thais' nature.

I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious. They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good!

It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.

I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.

Actually Puy is not that pretty, only looks nice, clean, fit, healthy and happy with her big smiles. I have seen quite a few much prettier young girls toiling over hot stove on the streets of Bangkok, but none wear dressy, revealing and sexy attires like Puy. She has good taste in clothes that really improves her good looks.

She sure wears less clothes and shows more skin than all other street vendors, succeeds in drawing lots of attention to herself on the street and in Youtube with her unusual combination of good looks, sexy clothes and hard work.

She's running out of interesting subjects. Her videos with children, sisters, friends and family are boring, draw few viewers. Perhaps she can keep the interest momentum going with tours of Bangkok, pairing with other chefs to show Thai unique food, or for maximum viewers' interest, perhaps videos of her and cameraman with even less clothes in bed LOL.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873024]your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain.[/QUOTE]Nonsense. Of course you can complain, you just do it extra nice and respectful. Also making sure you are complaining to the culprit only and nobody else is listening then there isn't even a risk for anybody to loose face.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2872829]Damn, I hate to self-quote, but just slow in my old age and missed the edit window.

To those who say Chat-u-chak has no place on a punting site, I say au contraire. It makes a GREAT excuse to escape [I] inquisitive[/I] eyes, for those that need to. "No, you don't want to go, it's HOT and CROWDED, I'll check it out first". Quick BTS or MRT ride, an hour truly shopping, a ride back to town, and you've got a couple of hours [I]free time[/I]. And if you've bought something, alibi confirmed. Just make sure it's the weekend.[/QUOTE]Now as to the more sophisticated view: If you are a first timer, its a MUST just because its Chatuchak and is an experience. You arent going to spend just an hour there either, unless you have been there before and are lookin g for some crap that you think you can only find there. If you want to experience it, its all day. If you have been there before, there are others that are more fun and cheaper to boot. If you live here, you may NEED to go there, its another of those places, like Auto Parts Street, that are the only places that have what you need. But there are so many other markets that if you have a market fetish, your needs would be better served by going elsewhere. The expansion of the MRT makes it easier.

Hell, if you want to go to a Thai market and impress your brand new girlfriend who is now a name instead of a number, take the boat to Nothanburi Pier, wander around there, then taxi up to Koh Kret and have a romantic dinner on the river after a schmooze through the local Mon markets. Those Clay burners you see in Terminal 21 for $30 are only $5 up there. Weekends only. Dress nice and behave 'because you are real farang up there. '.

There are tons more, Google is your friend.

If you want to try to understand the Thai lifestyle better, and you only have one market to go to, go to Khlong Toey. After all, you really don't need cheap souveniers made in China that are sold all through SE Asia?

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873024]Definitely.

Asians in general, and Thais definitely, don't want to lose face in a given situation. In Thailand, there's [I]Krang Jai[/I]. Thailand is a very complicated hierarchical system, where your [I]power[/I] in society is determined by many things. Just the simple wai, notice how different it is depending on the situation: who does it first, how high on the face are the fingers, how long, etc. , etc. I learned a very long time ago I'd never figure out how to do it properly, so I reserve mine for monks and people older (few and far between) than myself. I like this description of Krang Jai: your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain. And just because a Thai is smiling and seemingly nodding in agreement, doesn't necessarily mean he's happy and agreeing with you. A facade to smooth society's interactions' [I]sandpaper[/I], and everyone just gets along with life. Certainly a lot better than other socienty's Glock [I]solutions[/I], so they just might be onto something.[/QUOTE]Until they snap and massacre a village. Your view of Thai culture is simplistic.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2873085]Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.

I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.

Worth a go.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Worth a go. Right. No name, date this happened, where you met her, where she hangs out. Hey guys, look, here's pics of a chick I shagged, go find her amoung 20 million other girls.

Priceless.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]11 Bravo,

Very insightful of Thais' nature.

I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious. They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good!

It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.

I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.[/QUOTE]Now, as one with real experience, you are getting it.

Personally I thnik Thai and Cambodian people are the nicest folks in the world, as long as you too are Jai Dee. That includes the Hi Sos in Thailand I have met, I find the Okhnas in Cambodia to be arrogant like their Chinese Masters.

Too many Westerners act like Westerners in Thailand. Don't.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]
I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious.[/QUOTE]What, Thais class conscious? Hard to believe. They certainly don't seem that way up on the stage in the gogo bars, or the beer bars. But then I never venture outside of the Nana go-go's, except to take a tuk-tuk to Soi Cowboy. And Pattaya beer bars, all seem equal. (AKA tongue-in-cheek).

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good![/QUOTE]Yes indeed, along with the [I]high-so's[/I] (want to tease a friend? Call her a [I]high-so[/I]). But they can't be all that High-Class, given they're associating with you (that's the [B]2nd person PLURAL[/B] falang, not the FIRST person specific). But I DO know what you mean.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.[/QUOTE]Actually, a big problem in Thai education, the non-questioning of teachers, not risking mistakes. I appreciate their sense of personal pride and how they're always decked out when out-and-about. One of the biggest complements you can give is tell her she smells nice. And all that growing up training is how they know how to wai.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.[/QUOTE]And never colonized (ceded land, but never occupied. Well, there was WWII). If you've never been and get the chance, visit Myanmar, Thai hospitality on steroids.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873305]Nonsense. Of course you can complain, you just do it extra nice and respectful. Also making sure you are complaining to the culprit only and nobody else is listening then there isn't even a risk for anybody to loose face.[/QUOTE]YOU can complain, but a Thai would not necessarily complain depending on the [I]status[/I] of the neighbor and if they were family. Spend some time in Thailand, associating with the people, and you'll see this time and time again. Standard response is "My pen Lai". Because the neighbor would be hearing you speak, and would lose face, which would risk causing resentment with your neighbor. TIT.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2873125]Thank god. Tissue box holders. My life is complete.[/QUOTE]You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.