Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]
I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious.[/QUOTE]What, Thais class conscious? Hard to believe. They certainly don't seem that way up on the stage in the gogo bars, or the beer bars. But then I never venture outside of the Nana go-go's, except to take a tuk-tuk to Soi Cowboy. And Pattaya beer bars, all seem equal. (AKA tongue-in-cheek).

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good![/QUOTE]Yes indeed, along with the [I]high-so's[/I] (want to tease a friend? Call her a [I]high-so[/I]). But they can't be all that High-Class, given they're associating with you (that's the [B]2nd person PLURAL[/B] falang, not the FIRST person specific). But I DO know what you mean.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.[/QUOTE]Actually, a big problem in Thai education, the non-questioning of teachers, not risking mistakes. I appreciate their sense of personal pride and how they're always decked out when out-and-about. One of the biggest complements you can give is tell her she smells nice. And all that growing up training is how they know how to wai.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.[/QUOTE]And never colonized (ceded land, but never occupied. Well, there was WWII). If you've never been and get the chance, visit Myanmar, Thai hospitality on steroids.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873305]Nonsense. Of course you can complain, you just do it extra nice and respectful. Also making sure you are complaining to the culprit only and nobody else is listening then there isn't even a risk for anybody to loose face.[/QUOTE]YOU can complain, but a Thai would not necessarily complain depending on the [I]status[/I] of the neighbor and if they were family. Spend some time in Thailand, associating with the people, and you'll see this time and time again. Standard response is "My pen Lai". Because the neighbor would be hearing you speak, and would lose face, which would risk causing resentment with your neighbor. TIT.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2873125]Thank god. Tissue box holders. My life is complete.[/QUOTE]You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873375]

You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.[/QUOTE]I try to bring back something a bit more meaningful, probably why I don't need to buy anyhting at Chatuchak.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873375]What, Thais class conscious? Hard to believe. They certainly don't seem that way up on the stage in the gogo bars, or the beer bars. But then I never venture outside of the Nana go-go's, except to take a tuk-tuk to Soi Cowboy. And Pattaya beer bars, all seem equal. (AKA tongue-in-cheek).

Yes indeed, along with the [I]high-so's[/I] (want to tease a friend? Call her a [I]high-so[/I]). But they can't be all that High-Class, given they're associating with you (that's the [B]2nd person PLURAL[/B] falang, not the FIRST person specific). But I DO know what you mean.

Actually, a big problem in Thai education, the non-questioning of teachers, not risking mistakes. I appreciate their sense of personal pride and how they're always decked out when out-and-about. One of the biggest complements you can give is tell her she smells nice. And all that growing up training is how they know how to wai.

And never colonized (ceded land, but never occupied. Well, there was WWII). If you've never been and get the chance, visit Myanmar, Thai hospitality on steroids.

YOU can complain, but a Thai would not necessarily complain depending on the [I]status[/I] of the neighbor and if they were family. Spend some time in Thailand, associating with the people, and you'll see this time and time again. Standard response is "My pen Lai". Because the neighbor would be hearing you speak, and would lose face, which would risk causing resentment with your neighbor. TIT.

You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.[/QUOTE]Class ratings.

22. Prostitute s.

23. Soi Dogs.

24. Customers of number 22.

End of Classes. Nana Schoolgirl would be in 22 while I'm in 24. Go figure. Stay in your lane People.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872381]I think we need to reframe the conversation less about what kind of chicks Asians or white guys want, and more about what kind of guys the Thai chicks want. The reality is that Asian chicks have very low standards when it comes to men. You only need to be one thing. White. That's it. If you're Asian of any kind, be it East or from the sub continent, then you'd better be good looking, or rich or have a 12 inch dick, cause even the ugliest asian chick won't even look at you. Doesn't matter if she's a Thai model, a Filipina domestic helper working in Hong Kong, or some washed up middle aged stewardess from Indonesia who worked for qatar airways for a few years, they all end up with white guys in the end. And yes, even if you look like American comedy legend Danny freakin Devito. Why don't they go with more white guys in Thermae you ask? DUH! Because there's less white guys there. Jeezes H mother effin christ. You'd think we'd all need phds to figure this out. I did a pretty thorough scouting of Thaniya in my time, and the main reason they go with Japanese dudes there is again, cause white guys aren't there, maybe most of them are too chicken shit scared or something, I sure wasn't. 9 out of 10 times, Asian chicks will go with a white guy, and the one time they don't is cause they're shit out of luck. So stop complaining, and use that superpower of being born with white skin. Jesus and mary. God sakes. So, it's not that Asian guys go to rebuild their ego or whatever, although white guys will fuck just about anything with a hole, it's more that the chicks will pick the white guys over anything else.[/QUOTE]I suppose I'll make a blanket statement of my own. Imo a lot of the Farang tend to pick dark skinned, tattooed, skinnier, taller girls. And a lot of the Japanese and Korean guys tend to pick more of the Kpop model looking girls.

I really do think it depends on which club you're at and which girl it is. Ie if you're at Billiards, it's equal opportunity for everyone.

There's a certain type of hot Asian girl that generally doesn't go with white guys. It's almost like a Venn diagram where one section is greyed out and white guys don't have access.

If you're at Baccara they much prefer Japanese / Korean clientele. Even if you get a lady drink as a white guy, she'll take the drink of course. But if another Asian guy asks for a lady drink, she's going home with him.

I think there's prejudice. But prejudice has truth.

There's a prejudice that white peoplee are just known to be cheap. "Gogo girls are too expensive, I can get this at the beerbars. This is a waste of money' -- so after hearing that a few times they immediately classify you as cheap and don't bother with that and go straight for the guys that DO like gogirls which happen to be Japanese and Korean guys.

So beer bar girls. They're fine with Farang.

Gogo girls in some bars. They view you as cheap.

While you can find hot girls in gogo bars and beerbars, the certain look, ie that Kpop girl look, they don't go to beerbars. And 'those' girls don't bother with white guys or they have prejudice that you're cheap.

So in essence // Farang don't like the look of those types of girls and much prefer the skinny, tattooed, dark skinned looks.

But on the flipside those Kpop looking dimes don't bother with white guys because they view them as cheap. So they go to Japanese and Korean guys.

[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2873444]I suppose I'll make a blanket statement of my own. Imo a lot of the Farang tend to pick dark skinned, tattooed, skinnier, taller girls. And a lot of the Japanese and Korean guys tend to pick more of the Kpop model looking girls.

I really do think it depends on which club you're at and which girl it is. Ie if you're at Billiards, it's equal opportunity for everyone.

There's a certain type of hot Asian girl that generally doesn't go with white guys. It's almost like a Venn diagram where one section is greyed out and white guys don't have access.

If you're at Baccara they much prefer Japanese / Korean clientele. Even if you get a lady drink as a white guy, she'll take the drink of course. But if another Asian guy asks for a lady drink, she's going home with him.

I think there's prejudice. But prejudice has truth.

There's a prejudice that white peoplee are just known to be cheap. "Gogo girls are too expensive, I can get this at the beerbars. This is a waste of money' -- so after hearing that a few times they immediately classify you as cheap and don't bother with that and go straight for the guys that DO like gogirls which happen to be Japanese and Korean guys.

So beer bar girls. They're fine with Farang.

Gogo girls in some bars. They view you as cheap.

While you can find hot girls in gogo bars and beerbars, the certain look, ie that Kpop girl look, they don't go to beerbars. And 'those' girls don't bother with white guys or they have prejudice that you're cheap.

So in essence // Farang don't like the look of those types of girls and much prefer the skinny, tattooed, dark skinned looks.

But on the flipside those Kpop looking dimes don't bother with white guys because they view them as cheap. So they go to Japanese and Korean guys.[/QUOTE]Take it from a long term farang resident. The longer you're here the less you're attracted to the dark skin Issan look. And you're leaving out one important factor. Most western dudes expected GFE or a PSE right off the bat. Many Asian guys are content to go with the flow and just get serviced. So herein lies the problem for all of us, the beautiful K-pop looking girl is not going to bang you like a pornstar.
The wonderful thing about covid times is there were unicorns online. One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. Had worked japan, taiwan, and Hong kong, and obviously had some wealthy donors at times, because we had a discussion about her favorite red wines in between rounds and she knew her stuff. In addition she was absolutely pure filth. While standing behind me in the shower with my unit in her hand askes me if I was going to a+ her. Skill set was unreal and had no problem getting that second pop orally in less than 5 min. Good times for residents as working gals from all over returned. I had quite a few experiences close to that but Iris was definitely tops.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2873512]the beautiful K-pop looking girl is not going to bang you like a pornstar.
The wonderful thing about covid times is there were unicorns online. One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. [/QUOTE]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2873360]Until they snap and massacre a village. Your view of Thai culture is simplistic.[/QUOTE]No, 30 years experience, and much more than just a BKK/Pattaya tourist visit. The societal pressures to confirm keep a lid on the pot in most cases, but there is the exception, as anywhere, where the pressure becomes too great on an individual. How often does a mass kill happen? Weekly, monthly, yearly? I don't keep abreast of the local news (damn, hated when BKK Post stopped publishing a NEWSPAPER), but walking down any street at any time, I'm never concerned that I'll wind up [i]collateral damage[/i]. Elsewhere...

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2873360]Personally I thnik Thai and Cambodian people are the nicest folks in the world, as long as you too are Jai Dee. That includes the Hi Sos in Thailand I have met, I find the Okhnas in Cambodia to be arrogant like their Chinese Masters.[/QUOTE]On the one hand, Cambodians are great, on the other, two words, khmer rouge. Now THAT was a massacre. A must visit: Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum. With Thailand's history and culture, that wouldn't happen here. One berserk soldier with an automatic weapon, yes. 70000 berserk soldiers with automatic weapons starting from Year Zero, no. And as I posted, Myanmar, Asian hospitality and friendliness on steroids. As in Cambodia, a real crime what's happening in Myanmar now. And with PRC opening up again, where's my ruck?

Compare Thailand Gun Killings vs USA.

You need to consider the one Demographic that does most of the Violence in America is basically non. Existent in Thailand. Sans those that Hang around Nana Area. I'm starting to think even our Lovely School had enough of them.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]Nah I believe him. COVID was a strange time. The girls were desperate. You could get a lot of the gogo girls on LINE. And it was a short period of time. But yeah, now things are just inflated prices and things are back in full swing.

The LBs give 2 major tells. 1st is they are super exaggerated with their movements. Real girls don't flaunt out in public. In fact, real girls from Baccara (as an exapmle) tend to wear more conservative clothing when they go home with you, almost like theyr'e trying to quickly hide into the crowd.

2nd tell is the voice. They can never fuking fake that. Thank god. But never ever can they sound like girls do. No matter what they do. You can just hear it just by the way they say the word 'Hello'.

Worst comes to worse, ask to see the ID.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2873512]Take it from a long term farang resident. ...One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]I don't know, does [B]Goatscrot[/B] need glasses, unable to detect post-op trans, or should [B]ChrisCross123[/B] refrain from pulling statistics out of his ass as if they were real? Hard to tell, but I know which way I'm leaning.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]100% female. Dude, I've lived her for a quarter of century. I know a ladyboy when. I encounter one.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873621]No, 30 years experience, and much more than just a BKK/Pattaya tourist visit. The societal pressures to confirm keep a lid on the pot in most cases, but there is the exception, as anywhere, where the pressure becomes too great on an individual. How often does a mass kill happen? Weekly, monthly, yearly? I don't keep abreast of the local news (damn, hated when BKK Post stopped publishing a NEWSPAPER), but walking down any street at any time, I'm never concerned that I'll wind up [i]collateral damage[/i]. Elsewhere...

On the one hand, Cambodians are great, on the other, two words, khmer rouge. Now THAT was a massacre. A must visit: Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum. With Thailand's history and culture, that wouldn't happen here. One berserk soldier with an automatic weapon, yes. 70000 berserk soldiers with automatic weapons starting from Year Zero, no. And as I posted, Myanmar, Asian hospitality and friendliness on steroids. As in Cambodia, a real crime what's happening in Myanmar now. And with PRC opening up again, where's my ruck?[/QUOTE]Your view of the Khmer tragedy is as simplistic as your view of the Thais and the complicated history of this area.

[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2873658]Nah I believe him. COVID was a strange time. The girls were desperate. You could get a lot of the gogo girls on LINE. And it was a short period of time. But yeah, now things are just inflated prices and things are back in full swing.

The LBs give 2 major tells. 1st is they are super exaggerated with their movements. Real girls don't flaunt out in public. In fact, real girls from Baccara (as an exapmle) tend to wear more conservative clothing when they go home with you, almost like theyr'e trying to quickly hide into the crowd.

2nd tell is the voice. They can never fuking fake that. Thank god. But never ever can they sound like girls do. No matter what they do. You can just hear it just by the way they say the word 'Hello'.

Worst comes to worse, ask to see the ID.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've encountered a few post ops with lovely lady voices and gentle movements. But I agree. Generally, I find the LB are most aggressive (except the really clever ones). But if I'm walking down Cowboy and a young lady chases me (I'm in my 50's etc) it will almost always be a LB. Outside normal bars / clubs promotion girls will grab me but generally are doing so in a less demanding way. I did encounter many LB on TF pretending but I tell all the potentials that my hotel will check ID and no LB are allowed. They disappear quickly. Also the ones around Nana etc, I do the same trick if I am unsure. Despite all that I have had 3 get to my room or apt over the years and gone for the grope to find ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2873085]Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.

I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.

Worth a go.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]I don't know dude, she's kinda cute I guess, with the BBFS I suppose worth a boink. But we're paying hard earned cash money here. Maybe it's the photos. I kinda get it I suppose. If the chick's a real sweetheart, that'll more than compensate for the looks, God knows I've had more than my fair share of getting really attractive chicks only for them to be a really bad performer, and just to be bad personality wise. Why, one of the best fucks I ever had was in Geylang with this Thai chick, that while attractive, wouldn't be described as gorgeous. But boy, did she deliver in bed. So I thank you Belvaros for posting photos. Everybody talks a big game here, not me though, I just tell it like it is because my life truly sucks, but anyone who posts real photos, always greatly appreciated! But also, if you could add some information on how we might also partake in her. Is she on fiwfans?

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]I don't know dude, I've heard many a guy tell that they can spot a ladyboy cause they're just so good at this whole picking up chicks thing. But said same guy would come back with a story of how he had no idea that the lady was a dude.

Time for Aerosmith! Dude looks like a lady!

Oh my God! It's the crying game!

But like come on. If we were all studs so freaking good at getting chicks into bed, why are we in Thailand paying for sex? God knows I can't get it any other way not just cause I'm old, but cause I'm ugly as sin. I tell ya dudes, even in this anonymous forum I can be honest and don't have to resort to pretending to be anything I'm not. I say roll with the punches. If you go as far as bringing the ladyboy back to the room, and you find yourself staring at junk, don't freak out. Politely say no thanks and move on. Them Thai ladyboys, some of them are so good looking, you'd never know. You want guarantees, never pick the girls standing outside of Thermae, and when at Nana make sure the bar you're in does not have ladyboys. Thailand is a great country, it's our playground, let's be nice there. Even if I say that I'm 99% sure the chicks I banged from Nana and Cowboy were real chicks, but when you've had 10 beers, and some of them look so real, post op and all that, you never know.

The statistical odds of us having banged at least one post op while hobbying in Thailand, especially if you end up with dozens and dozens of chicks in a single weeks long trip, is pretty high. Some of them Nana bars, they won't necessarily tell you, even if they have the signs up. So I take it back, no guarantees in a Nana bar. Well, then again it depends. Man, There's so many conflicting reports on this and things change so fast there. Just go with your gut.