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[QUOTE=WhatsUrName; 1272280]Unfortunaltely, this is what I was afraid of. My attempt at a meaningful contribution to these boards would simply result in flaming by senior members. Actually, it was a post from you, SA, from a couple of months ago that made me paranoid about posting my travel details on this board.

While I appreciate your prior posts, I would ask that you kindly put me on your ignore list.

Thanks and good luck.[/QUOTE]I will take that as a "NO".

Your attempt at a MEANINGFUL contribution would only be valid if you visited the Philippines. Hmm my advice made you paranoid? Nothing to be paranoid about if you have never visited.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1272288]I will take that as a "NO".

Your attempt at a MEANINGFUL contribution would only be valid if you visited the Philippines. Hmm my advice made you paranoid? Nothing to be paranoid about if you have never visited.[/QUOTE]Again, it is unfortunate that senior members choose to flame people who are trying to post something meaningful. The most cursory review of my posting history would answer his questions. SA really has no idea of anything about me, yet he chooses to flame rather than share his experience with us.

SA, does it make you feel important to be mean and hurtful? Is that why you are bashing me? I just wanted to say that I had respect for your thinking and your prior posts, until now. I still thank you for your prior posts. I regret that it is one of my prior favorite posters who turns to out to be my flamer in chief.

I can take some negative criticism. But SA, with all due respect, You are being jack-arse. Again, I would ask that you simply put me on your ignore list. Lets keep this going. I don't mind. I will be a senior member too once I hit 45 posts. Wooohooo.

SA,

I apologize if I did something wrong. I do not want to be in a flame war with you. If I did something wrong, I am sorry. Can we call a cease fire and move on? Thank you in advance.

R

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1270664]At about the same time, I thought that it would be worthwhile to make a small flyer for guys over 50 which outlined the potential problems with the prostate, and a set of strategies to reduce, or minimise the risk of contracting prostate cancer. I formed a small consulting group, including the doc and a urologist, to put the information together.

Well, getting information about preventive strategies was like pulling teeth from a crocodile. Almost impossible. What I did get was pretty sound, but it showed that the entire medical system is not geared up for, or interested, in prevention.

G[/QUOTE]Medicine is a business and like all businesses it involves maximizing profits. Why in the world would the doctors and biomedical research companies invest in low profit preventive strategies? Preventing prostate enlargement and malignancy would be a far more effective strategy. But then would mean the loss of profits otherwise made by ordering diagnostic tests, snipping or burning out your prostate, and outfitting you with an inflatable penile implant.

[QUOTE=WhatsUrName;1272268]My question is: Do the Bar women profile men based on country of origin, and if so, does anyone have a "roster" that kinda spells out the percieved desirability\reputation of various nationalities from their viewpoint?[/QUOTE]Some do and some does not. No there are no such "rosters". We are all Americans. You will have to talk about yourself rather than nationalities.

Good luck with the bar girls. I am sure it will be quite simple to score, if this is your intention. They are working these, so the pickup abilities is more related to the mobility of your hand digging up cash from your deep pockets, rather than responding in a way that takes them by storm.

Keep it simple. Keep it real.

B.

Interesting link and read the comments.

[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/congress-pushes-bill-against-sexual-infidelity-131042933.html[/url]

With all the other things the country needs to fix, this is likely the most impoortant and will give the most economic benefit.

At least it stops all the FR on prostates

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1272400]Interesting link and read the comments.

[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/congress-pushes-bill-against-sexual-infidelity-131042933.html[/url]

With all the other things the country needs to fix, this is likely the most impoortant and will give the most economic benefit.

At least it stops all the FR on prostates[/QUOTE]I guess married mongers better look out. If they get caught all of their property will be going to their Filipina wife followed by deportation.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1272400]Interesting link and read the comments.

[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/congress-pushes-bill-against-sexual-infidelity-131042933.html[/url]

With all the other things the country needs to fix, this is likely the most impoortant and will give the most economic benefit.

At least it stops all the FR on prostates[/QUOTE]WR,

Interesting link. I think this proposed new bill will not get passed into law, but we shall have to wait and see. If it does pass into law the PI government will have to build 5627 new jails to house all the 'sexual offenders'. LOL.

Hmm, I wonder if 'Manny Many Prizes" will vote in favor of the new bill since he has "Manny Many GF's! *insert big grin smiley*

Some of your posts should be PM directed to members you think have an idea of the topic you are asking. As you can tell the cebu is a small group of regulars with a few visitors. So it easy to work who is who. Your posts also read like a guy who has never been to Cebu, so just get here and meet up, most advice you need first hand.

So try using PM first or reply via PM.

[QUOTE=WhatsUrName; 1272268]Guys,

I have a question about profiling foreigners by bar-women.

Just about every woman I have met in places like MBC have asked me the same introductory question about where I am from. I came to the conclusion that they are partly being friendly and socialable, and partly "profiling" me based on my country of origin. We do that here: we say that Japanese men display certain characteristics, Koreans display another set of charachteristics, etc.

My question is: Do the Bar women profile men based on country of origin, and if so, does anyone have a "roster" that kinda spells out the percieved desirability\reputation of various nationalities from their viewpoint? I am most interested in the difference between an American, an Aussie, a Brit, and a Kiwi. I already know about the Japanese\Koreans and their reputation.

Thanks in advance,

"What your name, Where your from"?[/QUOTE]If at all nothing, your post did make me smile.

Barwomen and profiling? You got to visit the Phil and see what goes in the bars. Oh, well, while I don't mean to demean Filipinas, the bar girls are a dozen mile away from being so intelligent. If so, they will be in call centers. Or working as Sales Ladies!

The questions are simply because they don't know what else to ask. And their intelligence stretches that much only.

And conversation with a majority of the filipina bar girl is as interesting as Talking to a tree. (apologies to Prince Charles.)

And sometimes it gets on your nerves if you expect a lot.

Example? Well, was trying to talk to a girl, she was giving one word answers, even though she had every intention of getting picked up by me. Until I was like "oh, you seem to be a girl of few words". And what does she say? A smart one she said."and you talk too much."

With a bit of Black Label in me, I was a bit annoyed, and I started ignoring her and she was still trying to talk to me, thinking that her words were actually meant to mean I talk a lot and not in an insulting way and then she got a friend of hers to add some reputation to her to make me take her out. It was still a no go. Until she asked me why I am snobbing her. Do I tell her? Or not. ?

And to this day, I am sure she is smart enough to not know that he words were freaking insulting if only she knew what she meant.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1272372]Medicine is a business and like all businesses it involves maximizing profits. Why in the world would the doctors and biomedical research companies invest in low profit preventive strategies? Preventing prostate enlargement and malignancy would be a far more effective strategy. But then would mean the loss of profits otherwise made by ordering diagnostic tests, snipping or burning out your prostate, and outfitting you with an inflatable penile implant.[/QUOTE]Also, they would love to prescribe a daily dose of some drug which will keep you on their income stream for the rest of your life.

Similar topics have come up on the chat thread.

It certainly hits with me in a few ways. One, I've experienced dull conversation or chat before. Also, Filipino like to tease. Sometimes fun, but sometimes raw. I've had a bar girl turn me down before too. Tough on the ego.

EC, what is missing. What were the questions? What time was it?

Have you been ever tired or exhausted at work and just wanted someone to shut up? Have you ever been bar hopping in AC and felt irritated by the exact same question over and over again?

Moving on, if anyone criticizes you, no matter how unreasonable, I suggest you look at the small speck of unreasonable criticism, and think about how you could have done better. THe other person's culture, education, mood, and of course your mood or interaction can make a lot of difference in the communication.

I've quoted EC here, but my post is not meant as any criticism of anyone. X.

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1272434]If at all nothing, your post did make me smile.

Barwomen and profiling? You got to visit the Phil and see what goes in the bars. Oh, well, while I don't mean to demean Filipinas, the bar girls are a dozen mile away from being so intelligent. If so, they will be in call centers. Or working as Sales Ladies!

The questions are simply because they don't know what else to ask. And their intelligence stretches that much only.

And conversation with a majority of the filipina bar girl is as interesting as Talking to a tree. (apologies to Prince Charles.)

And sometimes it gets on your nerves if you expect a lot.

Example? Well, was trying to talk to a girl, she was giving one word answers, even though she had every intention of getting picked up by me. Until I was like "oh, you seem to be a girl of few words". And what does she say? A smart one she said."and you talk too much."

With a bit of Black Label in me, I was a bit annoyed, and I started ignoring her and she was still trying to talk to me, thinking that her words were actually meant to mean I talk a lot and not in an insulting way and then she got a friend of hers to add some reputation to her to make me take her out. It was still a no go. Until she asked me why I am snobbing her. Do I tell her? Or not. ?

And to this day, I am sure she is smart enough to not know that he words were freaking insulting if only she knew what she meant.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man; 1272553]It certainly hits with me in a few ways. One, I've experienced dull conversation or chat before. Also, Filipino like to tease. Sometimes fun, but sometimes raw. I've had a bar girl turn me down before too. [B]Tough on the ego.

[B]Have you been ever tired or exhausted at work and just wanted someone to shut up? Have you ever been bar hopping in AC and felt irritated by the exact same question over and over again?

Moving on, if anyone criticizes you, no matter how unreasonable, I suggest you look at the small speck of unreasonable criticism, and think about how you could have done better. THe other person's culture, education, mood, and of course your mood or interaction can make a lot of difference in the communication.

I've quoted EC here, but my post is not meant as any criticism of anyone. X.[/QUOTE]Take it easy. You are missing the point

I was making the point that we are the buyer, but the seller forgets that and acts like they need to be won over . That's the fun of dealing with pinays.

I am not pouring my gripes here.

Oh, well, even if she was after a tiring day, if It was me looking for a punter, I would have to work hard. Not expect the punter to sweet talk me. Well, well, Welcome to Pinas!

I got the point EC. Most of us here have experienced something similar. Not just from gals, but from entire businesses. I've walked out of mostly empty bars and wondered,"do they even realize how badly they are doing their job / running their business?"

And I'm not referring only to the Philippines! Not too long ago, I walked into a japanese restaurant in Tokyo. It was a new place in a neighborhood I frequent. As I was perusing the lunch menu one waiter says in Japanese,"You serve the foreigner, I can't speak English." The other person replies,"no, you do it." I looked at the two of them to see that they and the cook were all having a good laugh. Other customers had obviously heard the conversation. It was a very small place.

I slammed down the menu and said,"nice place", and walked out. They are still in business, but they always have empty seats when I walk by. And I've never given them a second chance.

Restaurants and restaurant staff change. Maybe I should give them another try. Dancers have bad days, maybe we should give them another pass. I know a few moody Filipina who will get a second offer to share my bed. Assuming they haven't changed their phone number. Ha, ha. X.

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1273162]Take it easy. You are missing the point

I was making the point that we are the buyer, but the seller forgets that and acts like they need to be won over. That's the fun of dealing with pinays.

I am not pouring my gripes here.

Oh, well, even if she was after a tiring day, if It was me looking for a punter, I would have to work hard. Not expect the punter to sweet talk me. Well, well, Welcome to Pinas![/QUOTE]

My opinion on the debate is that the girls don't really care about you, in the same way that you don't really care about them. I have heard that Koreans are prefered 333. But for the one off customer I assume that it is just a job, in the same way as anyone remembers customers at any business. Maybe if you are handsome you can spark natural interest in the girl.

Now I agree that most of the girls given the opportunity would do any other job but I found the comments about simple conversation a little rude, and missing the point.

1. Go up to a complete stranger in a coffee shop and try starting an indepth conversation. It is socially awkward. That is why Brits, like myself talk to strangers about the weather and move on from there.

2. When you are on a first / second / third / date, with a girl that you are not paying for, do you find yourself having long intelligent conversations?

3. The girls work long hours most days. I found that if you can provide some comedy or other entertainment (distraction) they will follow you and stop the basic introductory questions. But as a man you have to lead.

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