FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1489164]That's interesting that you say that. I think of Artemis as more pro environment than some of the clubs I've been to. I've been to clubs in every region except Bavaria and Swiss. I've observed some of the behaviors of the girls in Artemis, which guys they target and how they do it. And I've had some experience with the sharks there. One time, I've approached a fine looking girl and she told me she doesn't do 60 sessions, and there was another that said the same. Both fine girls that I was interested in, but the upsell was a bad sign. The clubs that I frequent now, I have never run into that problem as the management is more involved in the girl's services. Matter a fact, I believe some girls got kicked out once they found out they were up selling the clients. That's not to say that there arn't gems to be found in Artemis (Gems can be found in the most Sharkiest clubs I would imagine) , I've found a few Germans that was of acceptable service levels. Matter a fact, don't recall running into too many Romanians there, the girls I approach do turn out to be Germans though. Given the rate of half hour and the pricing of extras being double what it is at the NRW, the girls will will want to make as much as they can there. Also, I've run into a girl I knew from the Palace, and she told me she has to offer a little more for the stand 60 there compared to the Palace. I believe the certain clubs has more abundance of girls that does extras, and other no so much so. In the NRW, ACA is full of young girls straight out of Romania, and none of them would do CIM for extra pay, which is not a dealbreaker for me. It's possible the club lets in some girls if the do the extras, and possibly Artemis is that club. From the line-up I've seen at Artemis, I believe you will find the more experienced girls there than the younger girls you see at the NRW.

I generally don't go by reports on which girls to go with as one punter may like a girl that I don't find all that fascinating. That's why reports are not all that useful to me, I've done ok without following the reports. I think reports are for punters that repeat with girls alot, and I generally do not repeat, I guess that's the reason why I move around from club to club alot looking for different girls. You should venture out, you don't know what you might be missing.[/QUOTE]I like reports, it is interesting because most of girls I see on reports I went with before and it is around the time I go to artemis I am glad to see that some girls are still at artemis. But there are only report on forum once or twice every few weeks and meanwhile the forum is dead, so it is nice to discuss about Artemis experience or thought and not just report, those who do not like can skip the thought or experience and Jackson can filter the forum, I think this is fair. Better lively forum than not lively forum.

I had upsell alot of time in Artemis, but I take it as not bad sign, but as offer. So I make sure to see what I get for how much before I say yes no problem for upsell. The best session I had in Artemis was with upsell girl actually and she is long gone now, but upsell session can be good. We can moan and complain about upsell, but all the club cannot regulate it, so I take it as it come, if the girl is not good for 60euro session I just do not go with them again, if she is good, I do repeat for longer time. I understand upsell is annoying, but we can do nothing about it and by complaining some of the good girls will goto other fkk that they can upsell more easily. Anyways I only get upsell by few girls and most girls provide satisfied level service for 60 euro. ANNNNND, I prefer that girl differ service level with 60 euro and 120 euro, I mean double the price longer time, so I like it more if the service differ a bit in quality not just time due to price difference.

We cannot expect good service from every girl, some are nice some are not, on this visit, I had good session with half black (brazil) and half german girl, I am sorry I forgot her artemis name and she was exotic and nice sex, I somehow felt Amazon during my session.)

Also I had good session with a friend of Coco from hamburg, I forgot her name I am sorry, she had black hair, small tits german girl. She does anal and she seemed to love it to do hard. I don't do hard anal on girls as I got big dick and it is not nice this hard anal sex on girl, its pain right? But with her she says she want me to do it very hard very very hard, so I did it prison style and it was nice. Crazy girl, she says she is not regular at artemis, but hope to see her again.

I want to fuck Loredana by anal, but I never asked her for it, I hope Loredana will be there next year and she offer this option, she did tits job. I liked it natural last year, but yeah she had flat tits before and almost noone want to go with flat tits girl in Artemis? It is hard choice, natural flat tits or big fake tits. It is hard to find non silicon big breast in Artemis nowadays. Well all the guys love big tits especially in FKK.

120 for an hour? Ouch. Huge risk for me there, if the girl wants an hour. That's 1. 5 hours at ACA(40 for every half, and happy hour entry is 30!!!), and close to 2 hours (150, some do it for 125) at other clubs in NRW (I'm talkin about a top club like GT). I would be even scared to do extras there for 50 CIM, and 100 anal. Those prices adds up real quick. I never do CIM or anal at FRA for such high prices since I can get much less at NRW. Like you, I have done anal many times, and only go for 50, 100 is way too much. Interestingly I have convinced some girls to do anal even if they don't do it. lol.

[QUOTE=West K;1489115]Also it is dangerous for the club too as just imagine if the older gents decide to take viagra or something like that. Some of these medicines are harsh on body and I mean it can be bad accident in the room due to side effect or over excitement at old age and I am certain that Artemis do not want to make headline for this viagra or related medicine incident of older gents.[/QUOTE]They may well have weak hearts, but a lot of those guys have fat wallets too, so I think their entry into Artemis will always be welcome.

[QUOTE=West K; 1489172]But there are only report on forum once or twice every few weeks and meanwhile the forum is dead, so it is nice to discuss about Artemis experience or thought and not just report. Better lively forum than not lively forum.

I don't do hard anal on girls as I got big dick and it is not nice this hard anal sex on girl, its pain right? But with her she says she want me to do it very hard very very hard, so I did it prison style and it was nice.

I want to fuck Loredana by anal, but I never asked her for it, I hope Loredana will be there next year and she offer this option, she did tits job. I liked it natural last year, but yeah she had flat tits before and almost noone want to go with flat tits girl in Artemis? It is hard choice, natural flat tits or big fake tits. It is hard to find non silicon big breast in Artemis nowadays. Well all the guys love big tits especially in FKK.[/QUOTE]WK-you can chat all you want about prison style (funny- my old inmates were such gentle souls) , how big your dick is and who you might like to bugger and guys and tits and death by viagra etc. But please do this in the Lounge thread.

None of this helps people learn how to manage or enjoy Artemis, which is the purpose of this thread. I find such comments more than a little wide of the mark here. It does not make the thread lively-only odd. Everyone should feel free to rant and rave; just not here unless it really pertains to the Love Bahnhoff. As I have said many times, I have nothing against (indeed just the opposite) colorful, interesting writing. But it has to at least be in line with the purpose intended here. This is not a diary. If there is nothing useful to report for a while, I have no problem waiting. If there are "deeper" more general thoughts about the FKK experience etc, fine - just put them in the Lounge.

The Arts thread IMHO is going downhill and has been on a slippery slide ever since Angus packed it in. I know many others feel this as well. Somewhat like anal sex, he is sorely missed.

RB was faster than me on this, anyways that's my take.

Personally, I would like the Arts area to contain mainly reports on girls, stuff happening at the club or questions by people that don't know the club and are looking for some info on how things work.

All other general matters should go either in the lounge or the in the general info area. For sure I'm one of the ones to blame for chatting a bit sometimes and things should not be too strict, we are here for fun, but I think there should be a limit.

Differently from RB, I don't care a lot about psychological / sentimental stuff or why people visit Art but I understand and respect this could be of interest to many, just I think this is not the right place.

Kimino

[QUOTE=West K;1489172]I like reports, it is interesting because most of girls I see on reports I went with before and it is around the time I go to artemis I am glad to see that some girls are still at artemis. But there are only report on forum once or twice every few weeks and meanwhile the forum is dead, so it is nice to discuss about Artemis experience or thought and not just report, those who do not like can skip the thought or experience and Jackson can filter the forum.[/QUOTE]I like reports too. This thread for the reports and information. Chatting and shooting the breeze in the Lounge thread.

Thanks,

CD

Is it possible to have sex in a shower in Artemis?

I am not thinking about the showers in the locker room.

[QUOTE=Grrrr;1488083]Don't believe what others say about this place going down hill. Just think how the bedroom magic fades in a relationship over time. It always seemed better before, and for them it probably was, but for the uninitiated, this place is amazing.[/QUOTE]Definitely! I wish I could reboot my brain. Great report, thanks!

[QUOTE=DarkNumber;1489382]Is it possible to have sex in a shower in Artemis? I am not thinking about the showers in the locker room.[/QUOTE]As far as I know there is one private enough shower upstairs in the toilet, but there is no door for that shower and it is rather small for two people to fit in, so I do not think it is possible space wise to do it there, at least it is very hard. Money can make this shower sex possible somewhere, but normally girls do not like to get their hair wet unless it is one of her last session of the day because it takes long time to dry her hair after the session, this can be maybe solved with euro though.

Alternatively, you can take VIP suite upstairs, there is Jacuzzi etc. If you want it s badly and willing to pay more for the room etc. You can have session you want there.

Other than that. I am not sure if there are someplace where you can have private enough shower space.

Dear Kimino, rocketboy.

I respect your opinion, and I won't put any discussion posts here. But please fill this forum with reports. I do want reports as much as you do, but most of us on this thread do not live in Berlin, so we only can report when we make our trip to Berlon, therefore we only get reports once in awhile. So personally I thought it was better to keep it lively as it has been for past 48hours.

Some people like it as there were some rather fast feedbacks, and official administrator Jackson do not mind these posts on this forum, but since it bother Kimino and rocketboy, it is better I stop chatting about artemis here as it is not only me, but when someone else post anything beside reports, Kimino and rocketboy always react quickly, so as a solution, I won't posts anything other than my questions, about presence of some girls or answering questions of others. Is it fair enough for you Kimino and Rocketboy? And I did not mean to bother you so please accept my apology for bothering you in anyway. I could react like Londontraveller reacted to rocketboy few weeks back (now deleted as it was rather conflict) saying who are you to police the thread, but you two did answer my questions before kindly about presence of some girls in Artemis, so I respect your preference of how you want the thread to be and I try to stick to three things I mentioned above. I hope the solution is fair enough for you.

I may be able to get Artemisin late November. How are the winter months there? Is it a smaller lineup, less crowded?

[QUOTE=West K; 1489557]As far as I know there is one private enough shower upstairs in the toilet, but there is no door for that shower and it is rather small for two people to fit in, so I do not think it is possible space wise to do it there, at least it is very hard. Money can make this shower sex possible somewhere, but normally girls do not like to get their hair wet unless it is one of her last session of the day because it takes long time to dry her hair after the session, this can be maybe solved with euro though.

Alternatively, you can take VIP suite upstairs, there is Jacuzzi etc. If you want it s badly and willing to pay more for the room etc. You can have session you want there.

Other than that. I am not sure if there are someplace where you can have private enough shower space.

Dear Kimino, rocketboy.

I respect your opinion, and I won't put any discussion posts here. But please fill this forum with reports. I do want reports as much as you do, but most of us on this thread do not live in Berlin, so we only can report when we make our trip to Berlon, therefore we only get reports once in awhile. So personally I thought it was better to keep it lively as it has been for past 48hours.

Some people like it as there were some rather fast feedbacks, and official administrator Jackson do not mind these posts on this forum, but since it bother Kimino and rocketboy, it is better I stop chatting about artemis here as it is not only me, but when someone else post anything beside reports, Kimino and rocketboy always react quickly, so as a solution, I won't posts anything other than my questions, about presence of some girls or answering questions of others. Is it fair enough for you Kimino and Rocketboy? And I did not mean to bother you so please accept my apology for bothering you in anyway. I could react like Londontraveller reacted to rocketboy few weeks back (now deleted as it was rather conflict) saying who are you to police the thread, but you two did answer my questions before kindly about presence of some girls in Artemis, so I respect your preference of how you want the thread to be and I try to stick to three things I mentioned above. I hope the solution is fair enough for you.[/QUOTE]West K, it's not up to me to decide how this thread should be managed or what and how people should write in it. I just said what I would like, period. It doen't have to be fair to me, so please stop this game. I was very clear in my post saying that it was my personal point of view.

Saying I always react quickly to this stuff is simply unfair as I always try to give people the info they need, being gentle and trying to help.

I don't need your fake apology, I don't care about your apology, be it true or not. Do whatever you want on this thread, it's definitely more usefull to you than to me.

BTW, I'm not from Berlin, not even close.

Now please lets cut this crap and move on.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1489665]West K, it's not up to me to decide how this thread should be managed or what and how people should write in it. I just said what I would like, period. It doen't have to be fair to me, so please stop this game. I was very clear in my post saying that it was my personal point of view.

Saying I always react quickly to this stuff is simply unfair as I always try to give people the info they need, being gentle and trying to help.

I don't need your fake apology, I don't care about your apology, be it true or not. Do whatever you want on this thread, it's definitely more usefull to you than to me.

BTW, I'm not from Berlin, not even close.

Now please lets cut this crap and move on.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Kimino! Stop crying as usual and grow up!

[QUOTE=West K;1489677]Kimino! Stop crying as usual and grow up![/QUOTE]Now this all obviously way, way over the top. No excuse for this here. You can PM him for such things if you feel the need vs some openly hostile salvo. Kimino might have done the same. I wasn't as bothered by WestK's remarks, for what it's worth. Always tricky here often reading and writing in a 2nd language to get tone right. I take him at his word. However, it is not anyone's "duty" to fill up a forum to keep the readers somehow entertained. If there is nothing useful to say for a bit, that is the way it is. Every vacuum need not be filled, and stillness has its virtues. And in any case, the Lounge area was set up precisely for more active chatting and musing, so that`s the place to go for non-stop, 24/7, lively entertainment. These are of course only my thoughts-I am not, nor am I trying to be the police here, even if occasionally I might react sharply. 'Nuff said.

So please, now let us all just chill before this degenerates further into yet more of a pissing contest. All points have been made, people can and will do what they want in an open forum like this. Just think about it beforehand and where posts should go. Let us just move on and get back to what used to be the point of this thread.

Peace, brothers.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1489686]Now this all obviously way, way over the top. No excuse for this here. You can PM him for such things if you feel the need vs some openly hostile salvo. Kimino might have done the same. I wasn't as bothered by WestK's remarks, for what it's worth. Always tricky here often reading and writing in a 2nd language to get tone right. I take him at his word. However, it is not anyone's "duty" to fill up a forum to keep the readers somehow entertained. If there is nothing useful to say for a bit, that is the way it is. Every vacuum need not be filled, and stillness has its virtues. And in any case, the Lounge area was set up precisely for more active chatting and musing, so that`s the place to go for non-stop. 24/7, lively entertainment. These are of course only my thoughts-I am not, nor am I trying to be the police here, even if occasionally I might react sharply. 'Nuff said.

So please, now let us all just chill before this degenerates further into yet more of a pissing contest. All points have been made, people can and will do what they want in an open forum like this. Just think about it beforehand and where posts should go. Let us just move on and get back to what used to be the point of this thread.

Peace, brothers.[/QUOTE]Rocketboy, this is not first time you do this to people. Not just me. You put your nose into other peoples comment before. I am not the only victim here.

EG: About two weeks ago for example: You really pissed Mr Londontraveller and he had go at you for always always putting your nose into other peoples comment. The commnet was deleted as he seriously got angry at you and had go at you. Do you remember that incident? He even called you rude person. You are!

Look if you do not like other people chatting just ignore it like an adult! Ok? I sometimes see some guy talking bad about some girl that I had good session with, I do not put my nose into posts that I do not like, I just ignore it like an adult. Let the person talk what he want and I don't go and cry and moan on post directly targeting at that person.

BUT YOU always put nose into peoples post directly pointing out at the person, that is why you got blow back from Mr London traveller and today me.

None of us are talking bad about you or Kimino or whatever, we are chatting, if we are in big cafe and you over hear conversation do you tell that person to shut up? I just past it, let people talk freely as long as it is Artemis whether it is report or thoughts or question or whatever. Seriously stop putting your nose into other peoples posts and grow up!

And remember you are not administrator, do you know this or you are insane enough to not even know that?

You need some serious education! Now move on or Leave!

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