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New law on pimping
There is new law, in which the government has passed, but not the courts and parliament, that is mostly focused on reforming laws on rape and sexual violence but has a section regarding pimping. Apparently it's focused on clubs and owners of those establishments who take advantages of girls can be jailed for few years, even if the girls aren't forced. Source:[URL]https://www.eldiario.es/sociedad/gobierno-aprueba-ley-libertad-sexual_1_8108786.html.[/URL] Subject to change.
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[QUOTE=Hotel1337;2577872]I'm going to be in Barcelona within the next week or so and would be interested in this as well. Sadly, people on the mercado forum don't comment on the girls' English ability.
Regardless, I'll probably try some of the top reviewed Vecinitas girls from the mercado forum and will report back if any of them speak good English.[/QUOTE]Incredibly helpful advice as always M88! Thank you!
The true teen type was exactly what I was looking for. Alexia was on my list already, and now hearing that she has strong English, she'll be at the top of my list.
From your #5570 post, you also mentioned Flor speaks English, so I'm planning to visit her as well. I wonder why their WhatsApp no longer list her as strong English. Regardless, I'll report back and let you guys know.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2578052]Andrea (off the website at the moment but presumably returning).[/QUOTE]Yes I've seen Andrea on the vecinitas blog for the most recent couple of weeks. In fact she's available today: [URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/vecinitas-bcn-diagonal-34x-girona-bcn-631721578-blog-t420240-i14.html[/URL].
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2577539]I don't know how much it is now but I would guess 30-50. I believe I paid 40,30 for her and 10 for the room.[/QUOTE]Are we talking about similar nice looking girls like vecinitas / alternatives for 70€ 30 min?
Room sounds cheap. Not sure if those girls are ready to walk with you to your place for 15-20 min or they prefer that cheap room a street away? But I suppose it is better to pay 10 for the room than deal with "the trouble" of going to your hotel.
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And Vecinitas says that Yasmin also speaks English.
[URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/yasmin-vecinitas-venezolana-diagonal-34x-girona-bcn-602883070-a-t425231.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2578052]Thanks for the compliments.
I sent Vecinitas a WhatsApp message, and they said that the following are the strongest English speakers.
Alexia.
Veronica.
Adriana.
Andrea (off the website at the moment but presumably returning).
They all have reviews. Alexia's are quite exceptional if you are looking for the true teen type.
[URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/alexia-vecinitas-catalana-diagonal-34x-girona-bcn-631357663-a-t422440.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/veronica-vecinitas-venezolana-diagonal-34x-girona-bcn-602888251-a-t424189.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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Good point. I suspect the person I was conversing with just forgot about Flor. I suspect that Flor speaks English.
[QUOTE=Hotel1337;2578266]Incredibly helpful advice as always M88! Thank you!
The true teen type was exactly what I was looking for. Alexia was on my list already, and now hearing that she has strong English, she'll be at the top of my list.
From your #5570 post, you also mentioned Flor speaks English, so I'm planning to visit her as well. I wonder why their WhatsApp no longer list her as strong English. Regardless, I'll report back and let you guys know.[/QUOTE]
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Hotel Covid Policy
Hello Friends. I'll be visiting BCN next week and plan to rely mostly on outcalls to my hotel. I know that hotels in BCN usually have no issues with the ins-outs of guests and their temporary girlfriends. Although should I be concerned that hotels in BCN, since reopening after lockdowns, may be clamping down on non-registered guests entering the rooms? Thanks in advance. Will be sure to report experiences next week.
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A couple of other recent things worth noting about Vecinitas.
They changed their hours and are open earlier in the morning and more importantly they are now open on Sundays.
And one of the ladies, or one of the assistants, is a skilled writer of the English language and often helps doing replies in English. Always still a good idea to send the WhatsApp message in both translated Spanish and in English, but the reply may well come in English when you do so.
[URL]https://www.vecinitasbcn.com/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2578729]A couple of other recent things worth noting about Vecinitas.
They changed their hours and are open earlier in the morning and more importantly they are now open on Sundays.
And one of the ladies, or one of the assistants, is a skilled writer of the English language and often helps doing replies in English. Always still a good idea to send the WhatsApp message in both translated Spanish and in English, but the reply may well come in English when you do so.
[URL]https://www.vecinitasbcn.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]A few things on my mind.
* Can you pinpoint the exact door to venicitas? Can't get a address on their site.
* What are your thoughts of the new proposed law against pimping. See BaltiX post. Surely the end of clubs like Lasuite / Felinas and more. If the law is very strict then maybe all shared flats, even likes of Venicitas, might be targeted. Surely not all girls at Venicitas are on the lease, so might the authorities claim that whoever is on the lease is pimping the others? Haven't read more than the article and the isn't passed yet but I still see this as maybe the first step towards total ban. Coming from a country with total ban I see it is not impossible if there is a political will.
Of course all depends on exact phrasing of the law and how its acted up on. One positive is the supreme courts OK to OTRAS union which the top courts said was OK, which might lead to banning prostitution completely might be difficult. Early days on this but what are your thoughts?
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Payment
My V pay card did not arrive before I left the states only traveling with credit cards will I be able to use at these establishments?
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[QUOTE=AmericanSlang;2578784]A few things on my mind.
* Can you pinpoint the exact door to venicitas? Can't get a address on their site.
* What are your thoughts of the new proposed law against pimping. See BaltiX post. Surely the end of clubs like Lasuite / Felinas and more. If the law is very strict then maybe all shared flats, even likes of Venicitas, might be targeted. Surely not all girls at Venicitas are on the lease, so might the authorities claim that whoever is on the lease is pimping the others? Haven't read more than the article and the isn't passed yet but I still see this as maybe the first step towards total ban. Coming from a country with total ban I see it is not impossible if there is a political will.
Of course all depends on exact phrasing of the law and how its acted up on. One positive is the supreme courts OK to OTRAS union which the top courts said was OK, which might lead to banning prostitution completely might be difficult. Early days on this but what are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]I think you are missing a couple of points.
No one should post an exact address of Vecinitas or any shared private apartment. If they wanted that information out there, they would publish it on their website. These places are where a group of independent ladies work and share the facility and share contracted services that are provided to them by bookers and cleaners. You get an exact address a few minutes before the appointment time with the door code and apartment number. The independent escorts who work there are entitled to privacy just as the independent escort who works by herself in her own apartment is.
I see no pimping or pandering in this arrangement, just as there is none in the arrangements for Felinas, Top Damas, LaSuite, etc. Those "licensed brothels" rent rooms to independent escorts under a section of the hotel statutes. It gives them a more permanent location and they are more free to do line-ups and publish their addresses than places that do not have a license to operate under the hotel statutes. The shared private apartments have to be more concerned about licensing violations than anything else. They can't give the appearance of being a brothel, which is how so many Asian places get shut down. The shared private apartments are not brothels, they just have to go out of their way to not look like one.
Every country has laws against pimping and pandering. Spain might strengthen their laws. It won't make sex work illegal and won't keep a sex worker from hiring assistants to perform services for her. There will need to be some level of understanding as to how any new law will interact with Catalonia's unique brothel licensing provisions under its hotel statutes, although there may not be much overlap.
There were relatively few changes in Canada when the Nordic Model was passed. The agencies were respected by the police as providing services to the escorts instead of illegally being the employer of the escorts. Usually the law changes are much ado about little. If the proposed Spanish laws pass, they are likely to be used to discourage Asians and Romanians from entering the market, especially at the roadside clubs near the French border. At least that is my opinion. As Yogi Berra said, predictions are difficult, especially about the future.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2579036]I think you are missing a couple of points.
No one should post an exact address of Vecinitas or any shared private apartment. If they wanted that information out there, they would publish it on their website. These places are where a group of independent ladies work and share the facility and share contracted services that are provided to them by bookers and cleaners. You get an exact address a few minutes before the appointment time with the door code and apartment number. The independent escorts who work there are entitled to privacy just as the independent escort who works by herself in her own apartment is.
I see no pimping or pandering in this arrangement, just as there is none in the arrangements for Felinas, Top Damas, LaSuite, etc. Those "licensed brothels" rent rooms to independent escorts under a section of the hotel statutes. It gives them a more permanent location and they are more free to do line-ups and publish their addresses than places that do not have a license to operate under the hotel statutes. The shared private apartments have to be more concerned about licensing violations than anything else. They can't give the appearance of being a brothel, which is how so many Asian places get shut down. The shared private apartments are not brothels, they just have to go out of their way to not look like one.
Every country has laws against pimping and pandering. Spain might strengthen their laws. It won't make sex work illegal and won't keep a sex worker from hiring assistants to perform services for her. There will need to be some level of understanding as to how any new law will interact with Catalonia's unique brothel licensing provisions under its hotel statutes, although there may not be much overlap.
There were relatively few changes in Canada when the Nordic Model was passed. The agencies were respected by the police as providing services to the escorts instead of illegally being the employer of the escorts. Usually the law changes are much ado about little. If the proposed Spanish laws pass, they are likely to be used to discourage Asians and Romanians from entering the market, especially at the roadside clubs near the French border. At least that is my opinion. As Yogi Berra said, predictions are difficult, especially about the future.[/QUOTE]IIRC The PSOE originally wanted a sex purchase ban, but they dropped it after forming the new government with Podomos, which is fragile coalition as it depends on regional parties for support. Some of politicians still want to abolish prostitution, which is quite moronic.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2579036]I think you are missing a couple of points..[/QUOTE]Good points. Thanks for the reply.
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Seems like Vecinitas have moved its location; Diagonal / Girona. Used to be Career de Bailen. Too many men during my visits. I never waited alone outside of the building. We were two or three men with a small amount of shame in our eyes and euros in our pockets. The Klondike of Vagina.
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[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2579023]My V pay card did not arrive before I left the states only traveling with credit cards will I be able to use at these establishments?[/QUOTE]Last week I was in Barcelona, 8203;I visited the local Maxxescorts BCN (also known as Maxxage BCN) in Plaza Tetuán and I made all my payments by credit card. Everything went very well and the experience was very positive, there were more than ten very beautiful girls.
The only negative is that the manager told me that the place closes Saturday and Sunday, but if you can go during the week I recommend it, especially if you want to pay by card.