Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727092]Nounce, look at these two posts. Ricerocket is helpful, describes the women he was with, and his experience. Anyone who reads the forum knows he lives at least part time in Medellin. He is not judging but providing information which is what the forum is for.

Then you have JJBee and the "experienced" mongers and "quite wealthy" men (cough, cough). Why doesn't JJBee and everyone like him tell this guy to stay at Nutibarra which is $40 a night and not the Marriott which is $240? "Experienced" and "quite wealthy" men stay at the Nutti don't'cha know?

Unlike other places I had mongered, the Colombia forums were fucked up when it came to pricing. I had to consult a local on this and it became pretty clear to me that the cut rate prices guys here talk about is for average looking women or less and in less than desirable places. With the possible exception of Cartagena, unless there is a listed price then can be easily verified, my rule of thumb is guys should expect to pay 2 or 3 the prices commonly bantered about here.

So are the guys saying this guy GiuseppeBonera overpaid being helpful or are they cocky assholes beating their chest and mouthing off about what better and more "experienced" mongers they are?

If you are coming into Medellin and have the money to stay at the Marriott, and you want to go to a place with the best chance you will find a girl you like, you should head to La Isla and if guys are being helpful, they should give a range of prices from that place. If you do not know the prices for takeout or have never done it from there, then shut the fuck about whether someone overpaid. You are being just as worthless as saying the guy overpaid for his hotel room or for his beer at La Isla.[/QUOTE]Brother, as someone who has been to MDE 7 times. And been to every venue you suggested. You should absolutely go to La Isla and Fase dos, not only that, but also pay to take them out from there, and whilst at it, I would throw in two other options where you will get your quality. Gustos and Lutron.

Everyone has a different style of mongering, and if that works for you, go at it. All I can say is I have had girls for 150 mil on past trips and now 200 + taxi and they at times also work at La isla and Gustos. What they get there I don't know or frankly care, but if we meet it's 200 + taxi and I get what I want. Sometimes they will insist and if I really want it, I might go with 250mil.
I don't even discuss rate with those I repeat on subsequent trips. Whether they go with that due to familiarity, a reliable payday, or what I don't know. I don't hesitate to order a meal or even special alcohol they want via rappi, I don't skimp on drinks in the apartment, snacks and stuff like that. I may also take a few small gifts (at the five below store) with me which I give them at the end if I felt things went well. Many even are willing to go round two, but I seldom do because I prefer once since nearing 50 more than money, my leches are at a premium down there. Jajaja.
Two other sources of income for these girls that is common at some point is webcamming, and simps. Most if not all have done it, considered or propositioned to do it. Just so people understand the landscape. Their attitude may also reflect their current circumstances. In my assessment however, They mostly are 10x better than the average monger in keeping emotions out of it.

Peace.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2727053]. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.

I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.[/QUOTE]A couple of points. Be careful about generalizing. MDE girls are good about selling a mirage. How many are exactly what they say they are is questionable down there. Lies are more ubiquitous than empanadas. And regarding the ever raging Centro debate. It's just a venue, and it's got its pluses and minuses. What I suggest is go there once or twice and check it out. Get a buddy or experienced monger and just do it, or if you're shit scared, go on a walking tour of downtown and you will pass around the vicinity of the church and botero plaza and can get a general sense of what you will find there. I went that way once with a bunch of tourists, and then felt comfortable enough to go alone during the afternoon peak time and roam about for an hour or two. I drew my own conclusion after that, so the debate here (often from people who have never even been there) does nothing for me. I have my conclusion. So that's my simple suggestion. We won't all draw the same conclusions.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2727053]I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.

I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.[/QUOTE]Do you mean to tell me that Colombian elites are not selling their pussies for seven dollars in El Centro?!

After MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) and her friend left, Freckle and her roommate were knocking on my door fifteen minutes later, somewhat unexpectedly. Dumb luck that the four chicas didn't overlap. Then needed to be fed, bedded, licked and fucked, but I cried "Uncle" and sent them back to Secret Puta Hotel a stones throw away, after domicilio from La Raza. If I go back over the last 36 hours or so I have sexed some ungodly number of chicas and I am ready to throw in the towel. At least long enough to get several hours of sleep and recharge. Amazonia is due for a visit in the morning, her first one this three-month trip mainly because she normally lives about 4-6 hours away in IDK-where-the-fuck-she-is with her newborn son. Amazingly, she told me she was ready to make another baby so who knows where that will lead.

I get it, females are more prone to showing public displays of affection than us guys, but is it just me or do Freckle and her little roommate look like lovers the way they drape themselves on each other? Jajajajaja, they deny it and I guess we will still call it "sisterly" love for now. The Little One loves to hang half-way out of the bed, all the time. Remember the other night, she made her pussy easy access to fuck because her ass was literally hanging over the edge of the bed, jajajaja. Hawt as fuk-fuk-fuk she is, they both are.

I am going to catch some shut eye. If I call Pumpkin up at any time between now which is a little after midnight and sun up, she will be knocking on my door in less than twenty minutes. What are the odds on that I Whassap her to come over and fuck me before daybreak, jajajajajaa? Ostee Out and you know the rest.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2726772]You paying 400 K? At least that was better than $200 US but wtf is going on when 400 K is a good price? Maybe I've been away too long but only since January.[/QUOTE]If you're in Gustos and want the chica right then and there, 400 k is a good price. A better strategy however is to chat up girls get their whatsapp numbers and message a couple of them another day around noon. Something in the 200-300 mil range should do the trick.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2727227]You sound like a guy who thinks pussy is pussy and sees any woman as a piece of meat. As long as she has a vagina and a pulse, she is good to fuck, right? Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.[/QUOTE]This was your response to a post about 7 dollar working girls, in a forum about prostitution.

Valid points that I 100% agree with; but less so in the context of el centro girls.

Building anything beyond a basic rapport with a pro is ill-advised, especially when over 1/8 of pretty young cashiers are ultimately down to sleep with an ugly old fuck like me.

The seven rejections (assuming you're not Calvin Klein material either) should take no more than 15 minutes.

Now you have a cute little nice girl whose pussy smells like water, who cuddles and makes cute noises, is pleasant to talk to and maybe even smart and funny if you speak Spanish, and giggles at her mispronunciations of English words as you correct her patiently, pinching her soft firm cheek or dimpled little chin as a reward for improving the pronunciation. Or whatever, she's your paid fuckbuddy now, do what you want with her. Idk if you guys call this semi or non or what, but I explain it to my friends as a fuckbuddy who needs help with the bills.

This offers much more ROI on the time and energy (and money) you invest in your pursuit of pleasure, even against the risk of coming up empty handed.

But I'm with the first guy, el centro girls are broken little sex dolls and I slap myself for even considering inviting one to my apartment. I hope they find a Sugar, I hope some of you guys treat them nice, but they are not getting more than 30 of my minutes or luca. But they are getting that once a week or so at this point and I give it to them with great enthusiasm.

The standalone topic of el centro girls as people, the outcomes of selling your pussy and doing drugs for a year, how pretty young girls who would be commanding (yes I've seen it) 4 figures USD elsewhere end up selling it for 7 bucks in el centro etc are interesting and heavy topics for somewhere else.

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Stellar, groundbreaking session, the impetus was my leaving the country soon and dang if her birthday isn't tomorrow. So we celebrated.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2727240]Two other sources of income for these girls that is common at some point is webcamming, and simps. Most if not all have done it, considered or propositioned to do it. Just so people understand the landscape. Their attitude may also reflect their current circumstances. In my assessment however, They mostly are 10x better than the average monger in keeping emotions out of it. [/QUOTE]A case of familiarity breeding contempt. These chicks are coming into contact with different mfs everyday so how are their emotions going to get involved. As soon as one is gone it is off to another. They do not get time to get used to one person. On the other hand the average monger is mongering 1 or 2 times per year with a limited amount of chicks and can not find love at home. So commences the emotions and simping.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2727244]A couple of points. Be careful about generalizing. MDE girls are good about selling a mirage. How many are exactly what they say they are is questionable down there. Lies are more ubiquitous than empanadas. [/QUOTE]Dude Rio used to be full of chicks with that same bullshit. All the hookers said they were nurses or lawyers. I do not believe none of that shit until I see it. Once a chick did whip out her law school ID on me. I said oh so that is your real name.

She was beautiful. Maybe she was intelligent because she was in school? But what got me was the broad took Pringles from the minibar and ate them sitting in the toilet. I would not have known except the crumbs were all over the rug in front of the toilet. Then I looked in the trash and saw the can and an empty juice box. And I have been to many normal chicks' houses who are doctors and supposedly intelligent and their shit is a mess.

Dated one Hollywood actress and her house looked like a tornado went through it. I told my cousin who lives out there about it and later on my cousin told me the chick has her own reality show. I told my cousin yeah that is the same house, but they definitely cleaned that mf up for the show.

I guess everyone's idea of high standards is different. But mine does not end with beautiful and intelligent, and most certainly does not include being a hooker.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2727168]Interesting day at my favorite love motel where I take my GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-To-Girl) and where MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) works. Both have a shot at making my List, MMM more than just a shot, she is a rare jewel but it's becoming increasingly obvious that she needs to be trained, and I don't just mean her sweet holes, but her behavior, too.

Fotos: One thing I really dig about all GZGTG's crotch poses, is that I did not position her, that is a natural resting comfort position for her. I love it when they can get their ass down that low with their legs spread. Easy access to both holes at a great angle. I love the dirty socks, too. She has just the right amount of sluttiness in her, for me.[/QUOTE]I love those lights. Bought two for myself in el centro. Fun when girls are with you with music and lights.

[QUOTE=ElPostino;2727341]I love those lights. Bought two for myself in el centro. Fun when girls are with you with music and lights.[/QUOTE]Pretty soon, if a chica shows up at your place and you don't have one, it's going to be like, "Donde esta tu bombillo"? Jajajajajajaja.

You guys realize they also double as a Blue Tooth speaker. Obviously not high fidelity, but gets the job done, especially when I take it to a love motel, where I should be headed any minute now, jeje.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2727186]Definitely serious. You have the same definition as I do, but there are many here whose definition is "I don't pay them outright, I just slip the money into their clothing or purse" or "When I say non Pro I mean a chick who doesn't not normally sell pussy and or this is her first time selling pussy to a gringo" or "On at least two occasions, the girl told me it was the first time in her life she requested money for sex. Is that type of girl a non-pro?" Or "And non-pros are usually willing to fuck you for a very long time without asking for money if they believe your are interested in the long game ("largo plaza" No matter what the status of a girl I have sex with, I always give them a regalo (present), and they never turn me down, presumably because of the way I give them the money. " or "To me a non-pro (non-prostitute) is a chick that does not fuck for money. So it sounds weird for you to say you are looking for chicks that don't fuck for money so that you can pay them for sex."[/QUOTE]Works for you. You do you. As you said, there are others who I know don't agree with your definition and those who do. Viva la difference. As long as guys don't project their beliefs onto others as if it's wrong to think otherwise, then there is room for everyone.

I am curious, what's the longest relationship you have had with one woman since you started mongering, if that's not too personal of a question? From the outside looking in, it appears as though you M. O. Is to do whatever it takes to bed a girl, and then leave her with the knowledge that you "didn't have to pay" as being the standard. Is it your belief that those same girls never took money from anyone else before or after you? In your mind, does that make you a "better" or "smarter" man? I have met more than one chica here who have been with guys who don't or won't pay, but they never last more than one or two sessions before they figure out what is going on and move on to someone else. Given the outrageous numbers you infer, it would appear that you mongering is a series of one-offs. Or do you have one or more anchor girls who your return to but never help them out in any way? Do chicas ever return to you after a period of absence? I seem to recall your writing that you don't even believe in buying birthday presents, and such. Is that a budgetary concern of yours or is it just sticking to your belief system, that as long as you don't pay, then you have proven to yourself (and the world?) that the chica is not a hooker? Is that your primary goal?

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2727240]Brother, as someone who has been to MDE 7 times. And been to every venue you suggested. You should absolutely go to La Isla and Fase dos.

Everyone has a different style of mongering, and if that works for you, go at it. All I can say is I have had girls for 150 mil on past trips and now 200 + taxi and they at times also work at La isla and Gustos. What they get there I don't know or frankly care, but if we meet it's 200 + taxi and I get what I want. Sometimes they will insist and if I really want it, I might go with 250mil.
I don't even discuss rate with those I repeat on subsequent trips. Whether they go with that due to familiarity, a reliable payday, or what I don't know. I don't hesitate to order a meal or even special alcohol they want via rappi, I don't skimp on drinks in the apartment, snacks and stuff like that. I may also take a few small gifts (at the five below store) with me which I give them at the end if I felt things went well. Many even are willing to go round two, but I seldom do because I prefer once since nearing 50 more than money, my leches are at a premium down there..[/QUOTE]I have gone GH and I want to compliment you on being a player. With strippers, you pay them full price the first time then you ask around and find out how much they make on a given night. This is where you ask everyone about what a woman makes in a night. Truth is so many times the women are bored shitless in the club, so if you tell them, "Hey, if it is slow and you are bored, just hang out with me instead of working, you will have a lot more fun and still get paid. " If they know you and are comfortable with you, they will do it. After a while, the condoms come off and not love but a superficial type of friendship can emerge.

I posted a hot WG here from Texas wanting $1000 for outcall. Truth is I still have a bevy of strippers who are as hot or hotter and probably better in bed that will do me if I want for 1/3 that amount. I think I have met two strippers who were not fucked in the head but they have amazing talents and not just in the bedroom. When I was at La Isla, there was a gal with flawless skin and toned as fuck who rode the pole as well as any stripper I had seen. She had the body of an Olympic gymnast. Like Miami Boy said, she is going to have a line of guys following her everywhere she goes, so why is she going to go to El Centro?

Strippers can be cool to hang out with. You just do not want to get emotionally involved with them. They are not sugar baby or GF material but friendly WG material, but it sounds like you already have that angle covered.

[QUOTE=JonnyPokerStar;2727265]This was your response to a post about 7 dollar working girls, in a forum about prostitution.

Valid points that I 100% agree with; but less so in the context of el centro girls.

Building anything beyond a basic rapport with a pro is ill-advised, especially when over 1/8 of pretty young cashiers are ultimately down to sleep with an ugly old fuck like me..[/QUOTE]The only point on which I might be disparate is that not all of the El Centro girls are broken little sex dolls. Many, if not most, are. But I had my prototypical El Centro "diamond in the rough" chica here most of the night last night, Pumpkin. She's a Vennie. Got a kid, of course. But there's nothing broken down about her and I have her over to my place all the time with complete trust. I am amazed at the number of technical sexual things I have taught her considering her advocation, but that's probably consistent with why she is not broken down, or "damaged goods" is a phrase that fits well.

Out of curiosity, in your mind is your fuckbuddy who needs help with the bills a hooker or is that just semantics? I am guessing, with your healthy and realistic outlook, that you don't care or think about the labels, and don't feel a need to cubby-hole a chica or make a value judgment based on whether or not she will accept money for sex.