[QUOTE=Rog123;2143271]Not yet but I plan to check it out today or tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I had a great time at La Mayor! Banged a pretty Colombian for $20, and she was into it!
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2143271]Not yet but I plan to check it out today or tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I had a great time at La Mayor! Banged a pretty Colombian for $20, and she was into it!
Wow. Posting this report from outside La Boca. I saw this girl last night super thick black curly hair she is probably the most attractive girl I have seen at any of the hooker clubs. Came here specifically for her. I approached her and offered to buy her a drink and she said no gracias and completely blew me off. I smiled at another interesting girl (thick tall girl) and she didn't even give me a smile back. Approached another hot girl (I don't speak Spanish) and gave her a hip thrust to let her know my intentions and she shook her head no. I consider myself an above-average looking guy so not sure what the deal is. I have a couple girls here pissed off at me (one I blew off after a mediocre session and one from last night where maybe I negotiated too hard) so maybe I got blacklisted? Bizare. Well the curly haired beauty just walked by while I was typing this and smiled and waved goodbye so maybe I will try again with this girl tomorrow and be more forward. Wow this lady is so hot for my tastes a solid 9. She was having an intense conversation with some local guy maybe she had novio problems. Maybe I should straight out offer her $200 for an all nighter as that seems to be the going rate at La Boca.
Edit : The beauty has thick hair but she is skinny and oh so hot
[QUOTE=Rog123;2143876]Wow. Posting this report from outside La Boca. I saw this girl last night super thick black curly hair she is probably the most attractive girl I have seen at any of the hooker clubs. Came here specifically for her. I approached her and offered to buy her a drink and she said no gracias and completely blew me off. I smiled at another interesting girl (thick tall girl) and she didn't even give me a smile back. Approached another hot girl (I don't speak Spanish) and gave her a hip thrust to let her know my intentions and she shook her head no. I consider myself an above-average looking guy so not sure what the deal is. I have a couple girls here pissed off at me (one I blew off after a mediocre session and one from last night where maybe I negotiated too hard) so maybe I got blacklisted? Bizare.
[/QUOTE]Are you drunk by any chance? Hard liquor? They may not feel comfortable if they think you're plastered.
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Maybe I should straight out offer her $200 for an all nighter as that seems to be the going rate at La Boca.
[/QUOTE]Even for Panama you're clearly being ripped off.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2143885]Are you drunk by any chance? Hard liquor? They may not feel comfortable if they think you're plastered.
Even for Panama you're clearly being ripped off.[/QUOTE]Stone cold sober. Maybe I will start off with a lower offer my negotiations have not worked out well so far.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2143885]Are you drunk by any chance? Hard liquor? They may not feel comfortable if they think you're plastered.
Even for Panama you're clearly being ripped off.[/QUOTE]I was drunk last night but I can handle my liquor and was not outwardly obnoxious but I was trying to get with this chica back to the Hyatt. She was insisting I make it a threesome $70 x 2 with her unattractive friend and I made the pantomime like would they lick each others pussy and they said yes. I told them to kiss to prove it and they acted so offended. I just wanted the one girl anyways. Seemed like too much drama with this girl so I said adios.
[QUOTE=Rog123;2143913]I was drunk last night but I can handle my liquor and was not outwardly obnoxious but I was trying to get with this chica back to the Hyatt. She was insisting I make it a threesome $70 x 2 with her unattractive friend and I made the pantomime like would they lick each others pussy and they said yes. I told them to kiss to prove it and they acted so offended. I just wanted the one girl anyways. Seemed like too much drama with this girl so I said adios.[/QUOTE]They probably thought you wanted to lick their vaginas. I can see how they got offended. The culture in LATAM tends to be more conservative, despite what you see, and homosexuality is not as widely accepted. In fact its rare to get two chicas to kiss each other even when you have them in your room. Honestly, I'm not there so I can't tell for sure but I think you're coming off a bit wrong to them. I'd tone things down a little. Have a beer. Be cool. And use google translate to communicate instead of sign language.
I've never seen anyone get turned down in LATAM by a hooker except one guy who was so drunk he could barely walk or talk. There was one Brazilian garota in Sao Paolo who turned me away and said no to me but I was pretty wasted at the time.
[QUOTE=Rog123;2143876]Wow. Posting this report from outside La Boca. I saw this girl last night super thick black curly hair she is probably the most attractive girl I have seen at any of the hooker clubs. Came here specifically for her. I approached her and offered to buy her a drink and she said no gracias and completely blew me off. Maybe I should straight out offer her $200 for an all nighter as that seems to be the going rate at La Boca.[/QUOTE]They are hookers man; you shouldn't have to try that hard. Fuck drinks. They are there for money. Just walk up to one and say vamos (let's go). She will say cuanto (how much). You say dime tu (you tell me) to see where her head is at. I don't know the going rates, but like I said, in over 1000 hookers worldwide, I have never given one close to $100, (even in expensive ass Dubai we got some Ethiopian chicks for 30 bucks) and you are mentioning $200 in a third world country? If she says a high ass price, laugh and say claro que no (no way) and make your counter offer. Remember, if you are not embarassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.
The only way you take 2 girls in a non-controlled environment is if it your idea and/or you speak the language. There is a high propensity for them to steal shit from you otherwise. Plus like someone in another thread recently said, why pay each chick the single amount when they are going to do half the work that they would if they were working alone?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2143925]They probably thought you wanted to lick their vaginas. I can see how they got offended. The culture in LATAM tends to be more conservative, despite what you see, and homosexuality is not as widely accepted. In fact its rare to get two chicas to kiss each other even when you have them in your room. Honestly, I'm not there so I can't tell for sure but I think you're coming off a bit wrong to them. I'd tone things down a little. Have a beer. Be cool. And use google translate to communicate instead of sign language.
I've never seen anyone get turned down in LATAM by a hooker except one guy who was so drunk he could barely walk or talk. There was one Brazilian garota in Sao Paolo who turned me away and said no to me but I was pretty wasted at the time.[/QUOTE]Don't want to get in a pissing match with you but that's ridiculous that you are criticizing me for trying to get good service. I just wanted to go with the one girl. I think maybe because I am 6-4 240 she maybe wanted her Amiga to stay safe. She wouldn't agree to what I wanted so I walked. The kissing thing maybe went a bit too far but I have no interest in a three way unless the girls are into each other.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2143945]They are hookers man; you shouldn't have to try that hard. Fuck drinks. They are there for money. Just walk up to one and say vamos (let's go). She will say cuanto (how much). You say dime tu (you tell me) to see where her head is at. I don't know the going rates, but like I said, in over 1000 hookers worldwide, I have never given one close to $100, (even in expensive ass Dubai we got some Ethiopian chicks for 30 bucks) and you are mentioning $200 in a third world country? If she says a high ass price, laugh and say claro que no (no way) and make your counter offer. Remember, if you are not embarassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.
The only way you take 2 girls in a non-controlled environment is if it your idea and/or you speak the language. There is a high propensity for them to steal shit from you otherwise. Plus like someone in another thread recently said, why pay each chick the single amount when they are going to do half the work that they would if they were working alone?[/QUOTE]I have never been denied either. Maybe I should have been more forward with the chica. I have three more days to try again. You can read my reports I am well traveled and no sucker. The price I mentioned was what some other girl quoted me at Boca. $20/15 minutes on site. $40 for 30. $60 for hour and $200 all night. I didn't negotiate with the hottie but that is a fair price for all night for a beautiful woman anywhere in the world.
Anyways this city is expensive. I had two sessions tonight with 7. 5 Columbians. Both great sessions but not GFE. The first girl wouldn't budge on price I got $200/2 hours. The other girl at closing agreed to $100 she was the prettiest so far. She left after just one hour.
Mongering in foreign countries is an everyday learning experience and every day I get better. But if I am sticking to my original plan to not go over $100 I will go home disappointed.
Hope to post a positive report for the Boca curly haired girl. She looks like Gina from Scarface.
[QUOTE=Rog123;2143999]Don't want to get in a pissing match with you but that's ridiculous that you are criticizing me for trying to get good service. I just wanted to go with the one girl. I think maybe because I am 6-4 240 she maybe wanted her Amiga to stay safe. She wouldn't agree to what I wanted so I walked. The kissing thing maybe went a bit too far but I have no interest in a three way unless the girls are into each other.[/QUOTE]I wasn't criticizing anything. I was telling you why it would offend them. But hey, you got turned down by Colombian hookers in Panama city. What do I know?
[QUOTE=Rog123;2144001]The price I mentioned was what some other girl quoted me at Boca. $20/15 minutes on site. $40 for 30. $60 for hour and $200 all night. I didn't negotiate with the hottie but that is a fair price for all night for a beautiful woman anywhere in the world.
Anyways this city is expensive. I had two sessions tonight with 7. 5 Columbians. Both great sessions but not GFE. The first girl wouldn't budge on price I got $200/2 hours. The other girl at closing agreed to $100 she was the prettiest so far. She left after just one hour.
Mongering in foreign countries is an everyday learning experience and every day I get better. But if I am sticking to my original plan to not go over $100 I will go home disappointed.[/QUOTE]This is a recurring theme on ISG. Let me first say that Panama is not at all expensive. If you are a tourist staying in fancy hotels then maybe it can get expensive. If you are living there, then of course not. I have not been to Panama in about 3 years. Before I was going regularly because I had 3 girlfriends there.
The first was Colombian and has been working there in a factory for quite a while. When I would come to see her I would stay at Europa Hotel for $30 then started staying at Arcos love motel for I think $25.
The second was Panamanian. She sold condos for a living. Whenever I was there I would stay in her apartment. She had a car so there was no problem getting around. I helped her get a visa and she came to visit me in the States twice. Each time I paid for half her ticket.
The third one was also Colombian. I met her years ago when she was living in Caracas. She has since lived in Curacao, Spain, and now Panama. She has been a hair dresser in the over 11 years that I have known her. She rents a room in someone's house, so I would stay at the Marriott or Courtyard at the mall when I would visit her.
From the airport, taxis were $20. To the airport, they were $15. (Last time I was there I took Uber back to the airport for I think $12) All around the city they were $1.25. One morning my girlfriend dropped me off at the airport then she headed to work. I doubled back to see a side chick that I was dealing with. I did not take a taxi, but instead took the bus for 25 cents.
The minimum wage in Panama is $416/month. So to give someone half of a month's wages for 1 night is hmmm. In the USA the minimum wage is $1305/month. Keeping along the same lines, you would give a hooker in the USA $627 for 1 night. It seems like an okay comparison until you bring in the fact that prostitution is legal in Panama and illegal in the USA (barring the Nevada ripoff spots.) And we all know that whenever something is illegal we have to pay a whole lot more for it. (As a sidenote, I heard that a certain grade of weed was going for $1600/pound before it became legal in California. The day that it was legalized the price plummeted to $200/pound.) So paying half a month's wages for a legal service makes no sense at all.
You would be hard pressed to find a local that was not a drug dealer or high roller businessman to give a hooker $200. I am no longer shocked when foreigners roll in to any third world town and want to give away the farm. When I first started going to Brazil in 2002, I would get chicks for $25 all night. From reading reports I think chicks want at least $200 nowadays. I started going to the Dominican Republic in 2006. Giving chicks there $25 for all night and I would have to put them out because they would try to stay. Keep in mind that a police officer there makes $125/month, meanwhile recent reports have chicks asking for $100 short time over superbowl.
I have been living in Thailand for the last 8 years and thankfully there are so many hookers here that there has not been a problem getting chicks all night for the same $30 that I always have. The minimum wage here is $10/day, but you are only making that much if you are a high school graduate and have like a cushy job at 7 Eleven. So for most laypeople it is more like $6/day. Chick prices and wages run about the same in Philippines. So I am giving chicks 10% of the monthly minimum wage for all night, instead of the 50% that mongers are giving in places like Panama, Brazil, and Costa Rica. That, to me, seems more plausible and within perspective.
When you read the reports in this section you see the chick was Colombian, Venezuelan, Dominican, but you never see any reports about Panamanians. I once heard that it was illegal for Panamanians to be hookers although after doing a search online I can find nothing that says that. As I was saying before, chicks are traveling to where someone will pay them more money. Two years ago I was in a club in Peru and a Colombian chick told me $100 for short time. I started laughing and said why would I do that when I could just go to Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8? She started laughing and gave me a high 5. So why are guys going to Panama and paying all this money for foreign chicks when they can just go to where they are from and get them for much cheaper? It is not like Panama is a great vacation destination or anything.
(I haven't been to La Mayor in many many years. Chicks were $10 back then. The entire area has since had a makover.
LOL. I think me and Yip are both about to have heart attacks when you mention giving a Colombian chick $200 (574K Colombian Pesos) for 2 hours. Especially since I fucked a chick in Bogota for $10 (30K COP) for 30 minutes last month).
Seriously, you would have come out cheaper buying a plane ticket to Medellin or Bogota from Panama for a couple of days than you would giving those chicks $100 or $200 a pop.
Panama was not my first choice. I have been to Costa Rica four times so wanted to try something different. I wanted to go to Lima but my friend insisted on Panama and he didn't even make the trip! I came here 15 years ago and fucked local girls for free but now this is much harder nearing 50 years old. I do like the nightlife here and regular clubs. Probably won't return for mongering. Habanos is the top place for beautiful women and they charge what they charge. I tried to haggle too much my first night and came up empty handed. That is not what I am on vacation for.
Almost every monger on this forum gets the hottest girls for the cheapest price and has sex 8 X a day and the girls fall in love. I simply post my honest experience good or bad in order to help out other travellers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2144103]The minimum wage in Panama is $416/month. So to give someone half of a month's wages for 1 night is hmmm. In the USA the minimum wage is $1305/month. [/QUOTE]I got $1,256.67: $7.25 an hour times 52 times 40, divided by 12. But many states (29 plus DC) have higher minimum wages, as do some counties and cities.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2144103]You would be hard pressed to find a local that was not a drug dealer or high roller businessman to give a hooker $200. [/QUOTE]You would be hard pressed to find a local that did not speak Spanish. Might affect negotiating ability, as well as the hooker's desire to spend a lot of time with a particular gentleman. That does raise the question of why anyone would want to negotiate a TLN with someone they had never fucked before, with whom they could not communicate well. That has never made any sense to me. But à chacun son goût, as they say in France.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2144212]That does raise the question of why anyone would want to negotiate a TLN with someone they had never fucked before, with whom they could not communicate well. That has never made any sense to me. But chacun son got, as they say in France.[/QUOTE]It depends on the circumstances. 99% of my TLNs have been "natural" TLNs and are not even negotiated. It is when I am at a disco or bar until 3 am and get a girl to come with me. I say natural because you both have been out partying, you go back to the room, do your thing, fall asleep, and wake up and do it again before she goes home or you decide you want to hang out more. In general TLN aka Long Time is not discussed in this situation. It just always turns out that way.
[QUOTE=Rog123;2144179]I do like the nightlife here and regular clubs. Probably won't return for mongering. Habanos is the top place for beautiful women and they charge what they charge. I tried to haggle too much my first night and came up empty handed. That is not what I am on vacation for.
Almost every monger on this forum gets the hottest girls for the cheapest price and has sex 8 X a day and the girls fall in love. I simply post my honest experience good or bad in order to help out other travellers.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean bro. You didn't make the prices into what they are and there is damn sure nothing you can do to change them. The only choice you have is pay what they will take or go home with your dick in your hand as you did the one night. It is just unfortunate that all the monger destinations are falling 1 by 1 into the same crap; mainly because people choose to go places and compare what it would cost back home instead of thinking what it actually costs locally.