Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453410]8th text she loves me and I am the only man she is seeing LOL. But she said after I told her money is in my account lmao[/QUOTE]Let me make it simple. Offer her a price to come over and fuck. You can love her when you are together. Then pay her and tell yourself that the only way that she would refuse the money is if she is not a working girl.

Don't do the monthly thing. She is not dependable enough to do that. If you put her on retainer, she will spend the rest of the month trying to suck every dollar she can out of you.

"Love" her when you are together then forget about her after you leave. She is an angel when you are together and a working girl when you are done with her. Do not confuse the two.

What you are really looking for is a sugar baby, but you have blown it with this one.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2453013]Lovense Lush and OhMiBod Esca are the 2 top ones. Both can be used with the webcam sites or can be controlled remotely through an app and a Bluetooth connection.[/QUOTE]Thanks, JJBee, I linked up to the Lovense site, and all the women said the same thing. There was a video of how they could control me with a vibrator too, and they all wanted that as an option. I found the Lovense male device on Amazon here and ordered it, [URL]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MYJXX33/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/URL].

All the women picked the same vibrator from the lovense site, the Lush 2.

I also found a unisex device that can do virtual sex. That device is here, [URL]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NAB2L41/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/URL].

I got one for her and one for me.

I made the women promise they would like me more than the vibrator, and they said they would, but LOL, I have my doubts.

I saw a device like this in Colombia, but I had not seen it here. I tried something like this out with one chica in Colombia and she loved it. [URL]https://www.trojanbrands.com/en/vibrations/trojan-vibrations-intense-pleasure-vibrating-ring[/URL].

The whole thing reminded me to stock up on some here. I had to go to three stores to find the damned thing once in Colombia.

I firmly have it under control financially thanks to my cheapy charlie credentials. My street smarts will never allow her to take advantage of me. I listen, monitor while keeping the bucks in my pocket or the bank. I will pay 140 mil 17 hrs once a week or every 2 weeks til I leave that's a bargain. Though the 200 mil is a better bargain.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2453424]Let me make it simple. Offer her a price to come over and fuck. You can love her when you are together. Then pay her and tell yourself that the only way that she would refuse the money is if she is not a working girl.

Don't do the monthly thing. She is not dependable enough to do that. If you put her on retainer, she will spend the rest of the month trying to suck every dollar she can out of you.

"Love" her when you are together then forget about her after you leave. She is an angel when you are together and a working girl when you are done with her. Do not confuse the two.

What you are really looking for is a sugar baby, but you have blown it with this one.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/sex-workers-coronavirus-intl/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453440]I firmly have it under control financially thanks to my cheapy charlie credentials. My street smarts will never allow her to take advantage of me. I listen, monitor while keeping the bucks in my pocket or the bank. I will pay 140 mil 17 hrs once a week or every 2 weeks til I leave that's a bargain. Though the 200 mil is a better bargain.[/QUOTE]I have some really good advice for you. Forget the 200 K better bargain. Just get it out of your head as it is really not a viable thing to happen unless she is insane. If she is nuts than run away before it is to late.

Let's get this out of the way first. I've bought a bunch of videos off the various Facebook girls who are selling them. If you want to know if one of them is worth buying from, hit me in PM.

Some of you may remember "Chica Problematica" from Facebook a few years ago. She's now going by Melissa Munoz and just started on Chaturbate. She's also still doing P4P. You can find her at.

[URL]Http://www.chaturbate.com/i_am_melisa[/URL]

I've met her and talked with her socially. Nice girl who is rumored to be worth a roll. I'd advise against trying to set up a date on Chaturbate. She's working for a studio. Hit her on Facebook.

On my trio, the nympho, the model and the cheerleader, there have been some additions and plot twists.

The nympho has kind of toned things down some. I'm trying to let her drift out of the picture. In her place is the titty beast. She's not my type. I like seeing big, natural tits, but I don't want to wake up to them. For the guys who like them thick, she's probably what you're looking for. She's moved onto the list, because she keeps surprising me, usually with unsolicited videos. She originally tried passing herself off as a student. It appears to me now, that she's probably been dabbling in P4 P.

She made a comment about going to the store and I told her she had to get a cashier to let her take a titty picture l. She liked the idea, but instead sent a picture of her with one of her friends. It now appears that she's going to make a video with her friend for me. She then sends me a video she had on her phone with the friend. Turns out she has a bunch of videos from her novias. No complaints from me.

The model has progressed to the point that fucking seems inevitable, if I can ever get there. She is being a lot more giving with the videos now. The body can't match the face, but there are no weak spots. If I wanted a wife, she'd jump on the offer.

The cheerleader is where things get weird.

As some of you know, I found these women on different livestream apps. It's different from webcam because it's all G-Rated. There are all kinds there. What I didn't realize was, I was also talking with the cheerleader's sister.

I haven't pushed anything with the sister, but I am trying to get her to send some nudes. I'm proceeding with caution. However, through the sister, I've made contact with one of the sister's friends. It turns out, they all were practically my neighbors when I lived at the south end of Poblado.

The friend has been trying to latch onto me. It only took about 20 minutes for the first nude to show up. She's also committed to doing anything I want as soon as I get to Medellin. Her, the sister and the cheerleader are all middle class girls. No kids although they're 22,22 and 19. No trashy tattoos either although they each have at least 1. I'm pretty sure the sister is out of the picture, but the friend and the cheerleader are definitely in the picture.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453440]I firmly have it under control [/QUOTE]Why are people talking as if you do not already know the chick and have not fucked her several times before? I have fucked plenty of hookers then after they get a regular job they still want to keep fucking without me giving them money. They are people, and you know the situation better than us.

I love the various responses but I think ENTERNATIONAL has the closest understanding of really what's going on. Don't get me wrong each of you may have a point or 2 about me and the 8. After this weekend let's drop her to a 7 LOL. ENTERNATIONAL recognizes that I have fucked this girl several times (4) and overnight (3). I think I have a feel for this woman, but always have your guards up. Sunday turned out to be her young sons birthday and that may explain why she said she cannot sleep overnight and only was willing to stay 4 hrs. Now members Let's study each interaction. 150 mil 2 HR agreement she stays 4 HR. I ask her stay overnight she says 250 mil 24 hrs. Next go around I then say I can't afford it, she drops to 140 mil 17 to 24 hrs. That happens twice. Very positive data correct. She then offers 200 mil for 30 days even better data. For whatever reason she declines but still offers 140 mil 17 to 24 hrs. Its still very amazing data. If anyone disagrees. Feel free to state your argument of why it's not. She has not made up any ridiculous stories requesting money. The only request was for me to buy a bottle of wine, fuck her hard, fuck her all night. All she did wrong was decline an insane offer she made. I think you guys caught more feelings over the matter than I did. I was more bother she tried to cut the hours on Saturday to 4 rather than overnight. But I think her commitment to sons birthday being the following day is why. And maybe that's why she wanted the 140 mil for 4 hrs work. I am just trying to put 2 and 2 together. Now I scheduled to see her on Tuesday. I could have said Monday but it's my time to play the head games. The only mistake in this scenario that I may have made was not agreeing to deal right away. But as a first timer in Colombia, I felt it was best to hear others opinion. I didn't want to go to the grocery store and come back and valuables are gone LOL. So that's the update. Please note when I head back to the states I do not keep in contact, numbers are deleted. I do not send money overseas once I head back to the states. Blakman out, yeah pollo I stole your line LOL.

I like me a women with some experience so does anyone have any recommenced Casas or bars or even websites to find them. I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2453230]I totally get it that we all have different sized wallets but I am floored to see that your rental originally started at $92 USD a fricken day! That's right at 10,000,000 Colombian pesos a month. Damn dude that is the most I have ever heard of anyone paying for even the very best digs here in Colombia.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]That was the going rate thru Casacol, prior to my arrival. It was too expensive for MDE, for me, and it's a bit up the hill from Lleras, which I don't like, in normal times. I looked at a couple of Casacol's best available penthouses, and this one had a better layout, was closer to things, and was available longer-term. The portero told Pinky we should keep it down, when she arrived the other night, but aside from that, no problems at all. At the rate I'm paying, it's a steal.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2453273]The Chaturbate search doesn't work for shit. Just add a backslash and the user name after the Chaturbate URL.[/QUOTE]Correct.

Pinky came over Saturday, and we were going to play my newly-purchased Monopoly board game. We had it all set up and then played Uno. Nice big bottle of Pinot Noir ruined by the fucking cork, which had me pissed off. I tried all the tricks. Pinky either misunderstood or didn't give a shit, but she invited a friend over. So, ends up the 4 of us in the jacuzzi. Pinky was mouth-only, this weekend, but also offered up her culo. I didn't get to the point where I wanted or needed to accept, and she was active with her mouth. I ended up banging the friend and Wifey a couple times each. Highlight was Wifey sitting on the friend's face, while I was banging her legs-up missionary, and Wifey and I were making out. It just felt like the friend was at our disposal, in that moment. Just a chill Sunday. Paid the friend 150 k.

I think Wifey is heading home for a bit today, maybe longer, because abuelita is stirring up some shit. Mama has the newborn at home, step-dad is working and providing, but abuelita is being a bih to him, and anyone else in her path, from the way mama describes it. Sounds like typical Colombian 3 generations in one house type of bullshit. I might do some groundwork, later, if Wifey isn't coming back, tonight.

Blakman, nice rebound.

SJobs, that's an interesting take. I wonder if I could sublet it. I would imagine no, but I'll check the contract. Given it's through Casacol, I'd say 99.99% sure I can't. Oh, the Casacol owner was on some podcast / video interview on FB, a few nights ago. It was interesting to hear him discuss the local market in these times. I also felt pretty good about what I'm paying, as he attempted to subtly big-time everyone by saying their clients (landlords / renters) are not the type to be low-balling, deal-seekers, etc.

Slapshot out.

Why me das 300 mil pesos.

Why entonces voy por 7 theas.

Pero en la noche hacemos en amor.

Dos veces why ya en la noche una why en la maana. Why en el thea lo podemos hacer si t quieres.

And you give me 300 thousand pesos
And then I go for 7 days
But at night we do in love.
twice and already at night once and in the morning ... and in the day we can do it if you want

That sounds reasonable and doable to me. Not unlike the first offer, this is roughly COP43 K per day, even for a cheapy Charlie like yourself, seems like an excellent deal, even with restrictions. Just make sure you lock all valuables and be extremely careful.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453625]Why me das 300 mil pesos.

Why entonces voy por 7 theas.

Pero en la noche hacemos en amor.

Dos veces why ya en la noche una why en la maana. Why en el thea lo podemos hacer si t quieres.[/QUOTE]

You are absolutely right.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2453628]That sounds reasonable and doable to me. Not unlike the first offer, this is roughly COP43 K per day, even for a cheapy Charlie like yourself, seems like an excellent deal, even with restrictions. Just make sure you lock all valuables and be extremely careful.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453625]Why me das 300 mil pesos.

Why entonces voy por 7 theas.

Pero en la noche hacemos en amor.

Dos veces why ya en la noche una why en la maana. Why en el thea lo podemos hacer si t quieres.

And you give me 300 thousand pesos
And then I go for 7 days
But at night we do in love.
twice and already at night once and in the morning ... and in the day we can do it if you want[/QUOTE]Way too much negotiating for me!

Have at it, enjoy!

I'm with my little Honduran, and it seems every week she brings over another 18 or 19 year old cousin to have fun with us.

They say I'm the first gringo they've met in the states who's been nice and speaks good spanish, LOL.

I miss Colombia, however, I'm having a lucky lockdown!

I think some chicks are tired of it as well. LOL

[QUOTE=Balboa;2453632]Way too much negotiating for me!

Have at it, enjoy!

I'm with my little Honduran, and it seems every week she brings over another 18 or 19 year old cousin to have fun with us.

They say I'm the first gringo they've met in the states who's been nice and speaks good spanish, LOL.

I miss Colombia, however, I'm having a lucky lockdown![/QUOTE].

I was looking for her to say 200 mil. She would have gotten major points. She upped it above my expectations so she lost points. Restricting amount of time we fuck loses points. But it sounds like 4 times a day. Correct me if I got that wrong. I really wanted to try the consecutive days sleeping over but also for it to end at time I could be free for the reopening to move around. This also allows me to approach it as it just my turn and easily detach myself from the situation. Okay further report if any.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453633] I am addicted to negotiating balboa .. I think some chicks are tired of it as well. LOL

.[/QUOTE]I see that!

We all roll differently.

Enjoy!

Knowledge in: I think you pegged the Casacol guy spot on. Once he has someone under contract it is no benefit to allow subletting because it is wear and tear he can avoid for money he will already have. It is a buyer's and renter's market here now and for the foreseeable future whether or not highly leveraged owners understand or accept that.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2453606]That was the going rate thru Casacol, prior to my arrival. It was too expensive for MDE, for me, and it's a bit up the hill from Lleras, which I don't like, in normal times. I looked at a couple of Casacol's best available penthouses, and this one had a better layout, was closer to things, and was available longer-term. The portero told Pinky we should keep it down, when she arrived the other night, but aside from that, no problems at all. At the rate I'm paying, it's a steal.

Correct.

Pinky came over Saturday, and we were going to play my newly-purchased Monopoly board game. We had it all set up and then played Uno. Nice big bottle of Pinot Noir ruined by the fucking cork, which had me pissed off. I tried all the tricks. Pinky either misunderstood or didn't give a shit, but she invited a friend over. So, ends up the 4 of us in the jacuzzi. Pinky was mouth-only, this weekend, but also offered up her culo. I didn't get to the point where I wanted or needed to accept, and she was active with her mouth. I ended up banging the friend and Wifey a couple times each..[/QUOTE]

Is that message from the girl copied and pasted? It looks like a jumbled machine translation. I've rarely seen that level of illiteracy here.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453625]Why me das 300 mil pesos.

Why entonces voy por 7 theas.

Pero en la noche hacemos en amor.

Dos veces why ya en la noche una why en la maana. Why en el thea lo podemos hacer si t quieres.

And you give me 300 thousand pesos
And then I go for 7 days
But at night we do in love.
twice and already at night once and in the morning ... and in the day we can do it if you want[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453638]I was looking for her to say 200 mil. She would have gotten major points. She upped it above my expectations so she lost points. Restricting amount of time we fuck loses points. But it sounds like 4 times a day. Correct me if I got that wrong. I really wanted to try the consecutive days sleeping over but also for it to end at time I could be free for the reopening to move around. This also allows me to approach it as it just my turn and easily detach myself from the situation. Okay further report if any.[/QUOTE]I am wondering if you are attached to the game , the price or her? Would you fuck your wife 3 times a day everyday?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453638]I was looking for her to say 200 mil. She would have gotten major points. She upped it above my expectations so she lost points. Restricting amount of time we fuck loses points. But it sounds like 4 times a day. Correct me if I got that wrong. I really wanted to try the consecutive days sleeping over but also for it to end at time I could be free for the reopening to move around. This also allows me to approach it as it just my turn and easily detach myself from the situation. Okay further report if any.[/QUOTE]Disclaimer: I have never been to Medellin but have traveled the world and seen girls of all stripes. I have been following Medellin because I may go there later this year and it turned out to be the most entertaining on ISG right now. I am also not a cheap Charlie. But I know a bad move when I see it.

And turning down a hottie for 7 days of continuous sex for the difference between $50 and $75 (which is $25 if you are paying attention. LOL) is patently insane. In fact the more you want her to submit and like you as a girlfriend the more likely you are to get girlfriend behavior and I don't mean the good kind. I mean entitled and whiny. Pay her a good wage and call it a day!

I know you even if ubare cheap u are not silly enough to argue over $25. So it's a pride thing and an attitude thing. Just get over it. 200 for 20 days was crazy and unrealistic. 200 for two days is a good deal! 300 for 7 days is a great deal! Just get over yourself. At least that is my POV.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2453651]Is that message from the girl copied and pasted? It looks like a jumbled machine translation. I've rarely seen that level of illiteracy here.[/QUOTE]I've noticed exactly what you have noticed. Some of the words utilized in the sentences are not used in Colombia, but in other parts of Latin America, hence like they are from a translator versus a native Colombian speaker, perhaps a fictional "8" in this case?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453663]Disclaimer: I have never been to Medellin but have traveled the world and seen girls of all stripes. I have been following Medellin because I may go there later this year and it turned out to be the most entertaining on ISG right now. I am also not a cheap Charlie. But I know a bad move when I see it.

And turning down a hottie for 7 days of continuous sex for the difference between $50 and $75 (which is $25 if you are paying attention. LOL) is patently insane. In fact the more you want her to submit and like you as a girlfriend the more likely you are to get girlfriend behavior and I don't mean the good kind. I mean entitled and whiny. Pay her a good wage and call it a day!

I know you even if ubare cheap u are not silly enough to argue over $25. So it's a pride thing and an attitude thing. Just get over it. 200 for 20 days was crazy and unrealistic. 200 for two days is a good deal! 300 for 7 days is a great deal! Just get over yourself. At least that is my POV.[/QUOTE]Stick with Moscow, So Paulo, and your other spots. All way better option then MDE. My opinion MDE is way over hyped. From reading your previous reports I do not you will like MDE.

Well I agreed on the 7 day 300 mil. But I couldn't resist saying 300 mil 30 days sounds much better. Her response was if I behave she would stay longer. She then asked should she bring clothes and I said yes. So we were scheduled to link Tuesday but she said aunt is coming in town (hmmm) Wednesday. But then she text 27 to 2nd. That's 6 days to me. Not sure if that was honest mistake or what. She's a bit MIA today since convo. I going to chill relax so it can go down rather than go south. So that's were we are at.

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But I speak very little spanish. As stated before I do not fuck any girl for winning a spelling bee. I guess it's hard to believe because you may pay a ransom for sex LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2453686]I've noticed exactly what you have noticed. Some of the words utilized in the sentences are not used in Colombia, but in other parts of Latin America, hence like they are from a translator versus a native Colombian speaker, perhaps a fictional "8" in this case?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453663]Just get over yourself. At least that is my POV.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. It's entertaining cause nothing else is happening on the board but he's more into negotiating all day than anything else. I'm honestly surprised this chick still responds to him, there really must be no work around at all. It's not worth 3 hours of texting to save $10.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2453688]Stick with Moscow, So Paulo, and your other spots. All way better option then MDE. My opinion MDE is way over hyped. From reading your previous reports I do not you will like MDE.[/QUOTE]True I love my luxe venues almost as much as the girls. But I had a forum buddy down in Medellin doing all Facebook girls, no street. And vids and pics he was sending. Wow! I love my Latinas.

I am traveling to Bogota but it seems less good than Medellin. And a flight is $15 LOL. Open to commentary from any experienced members here on the relative merits.

Not that I am into over paying a girl but is there a luxe venue in Medellin or Bogota where you can really enjoy the girl buffet and the chase in addition to the catch and release? 🤣.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453720]I am traveling to Bogota but it seems less good than Medellin. And a flight is $15 LOL. Open to commentary from any experienced members here on the relative merits.[/QUOTE]A lot of people will tell you that Medellin is better. However for me, although I like Medellin better as a city, I found Bogota to be a far superior mongering destination. As the capital, it's just a lot bigger with way, way, way more action to offer. Medellin simply can't match the variety of options that Bogota presents. Check out this report from Routard. It is the most comprehensive report I have ever seen on Bogota, and one of the most thorough reports on any destination I have ever read. And it's accurate too. For awhile, he was updating it every year, but I don't recall seeing an update since this version. In any event, this information will serve you well. If you have a chance, you should sample Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and Cali (I did not like Barranquilla enough to recommend it, and I never made it to Santa Marta). But if you have to do just one and only one, I would go with Bogota: [POST]2241562[/POST].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453708]But I speak very little spanish. As stated before I do not fuck any girl for winning a spelling bee. I guess it's hard to believe because you may pay a ransom for sex LOL..[/QUOTE]Yes, this bottom feeding, low level lurker, also known as an El Centro street rat, has been held for ransoms of 5 and 10 K on multiple occasions by girls, yet I suck it up and immediately cave, versus spending hours agonizing over a couple of bucks.

She is coming tomorrow but she ask to bring her dog. I said no. I guess she does not know my screen name is blakman LOL. She's asking to get shampoo and stuff for her feet. They are so pretty. Normally I would say no but I might say yez. Did you notice I misspelled yes. I guess I am illiterate as well. Just fucking with yall LOL.

Me vas a comprar
Unas cosas para mi cuerpo
Jabn ntimo shampoo para mi cabeza y un afeitadora.

I dont like the tone of text here. But she says shes going to bring fish to cook. So so far looking good.

We are a thirsty lot.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453727]She is coming tomorrow but she ask to bring her dog. I said no. I guess she does not know my screen name is blakman LOL. She's asking to get shampoo and stuff for her feet. They are so pretty. Normally I would say no but I might say yez. Did you notice I misspelled yes. I guess I am illiterate as well. Just fucking with yall LOL.

Me vas a comprar
Unas cosas para mi cuerpo
Jabn ntimo shampoo para mi cabeza y un afeitadora.

I dont like the tone of text here. But she says shes going to bring fish to cook. So so far looking good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453720]True I love my luxe venues almost as much as the girls. But I had a forum buddy down in Medellin doing all Facebook girls, no street. And vids and pics he was sending. Wow! I love my Latinas.

I am traveling to Bogota but it seems less good than Medellin. And a flight is $15 LOL. Open to commentary from any experienced members here on the relative merits.

Not that I am into over paying a girl but is there a luxe venue in Medellin or Bogota where you can really enjoy the girl buffet and the chase in addition to the catch and release? 🤣.[/QUOTE]If you are into tall and skinny girls, MDE is not the place. Not to mention real bad food and even worse service. Nothing like the other places you have hang out. If you are in Bogota, and cheap flights are available check it out, but I real think you will be disappointed.

If it works out I look great and if it doesn't then I am a cheap ass hole. For those questioning the beauty. Comments from my friends in the states from seeing her pics. "I would fuck her every day" "Does she have any sisters:" I don't lick ass or toes and she got me doing that. I fucked about 60 girls so far. I am only claiming 3 to be 7 and 8.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2453726]Yes, this bottom feeding, low level lurker, also known as an El Centro street rat, has been held for ransoms of 5 and 10 K on multiple occasions by girls, yet I suck it up and immediately cave, versus spending hours agonizing over a couple of bucks.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=TheCane;2453725]A lot of people will tell you that Medellin is better. However for me, although I like Medellin better as a city, I found Bogota to be a far superior mongering destination. Check out this report from Routard. It is the most comprehensive report I have ever seen on Bogota, and one of the most thorough reports on any destination I have ever read. [POST]2241562[/POST].[/QUOTE]The report by Routard is fabulous. I've never mongered in S America. Would love to try. As you and I have frequented and reported on the same countries and venues in other threads, I would like to ask this: how does Colombia, and indeed S America compare with German FKKs and the options in Spain from Vive Madrid to Estark 92. I like latina looking girls but don't like a big ass on ladies. Would be interested in yours (and others) thoughts on the comparisons. I love Thailand because it is cheap and the options are plentiful, and I consider it fairly safe. Have had friends mugged in Rio. Comments appreciated.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453720] is there a luxe venue in Medellin or Bogota where you can really enjoy the girl buffet and the chase in addition to the catch and release? 🤣.[/QUOTE]There are two in Medellin, La Isla and Gusto. Gusto is an American bar / night club with freelancers. You can find some youtube video. La Isla is strip club with room on site. I think the high end clubs at Bogota are not as good because they are not that many girls or customers when I was there, and is much more expensive.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453733]If it works out I look great and if it doesn't then I am a cheap ass hole. For those questioning the beauty. Comments from my friends in the states from seeing her pics. "I would fuck her every day" "Does she have any sisters:" I don't lick ass or toes and she got me doing that. I fucked about 60 girls so far. I am only claiming 3 to be 7 and 8..[/QUOTE]Too much information, I can see the toe licking, but the ass hole.

Don't fret though, there's other guys into that, besides banging them when they are on the rag bareback.

It's all good, unless of course things don't work out with your 8, than I guess you would be a "cheap ass, ass hole licker" but that's okay, we got guy's here into midgets, pregnant Chicas, and Sacaleros (glue-sniffers) so your in fine company here!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453663]Disclaimer: I have never been to Medellin but have traveled the world and seen girls of all stripes. I have been following Medellin because I may go there later this year and it turned out to be the most entertaining on ISG right now. I am also not a cheap Charlie. But I know a bad move when I see it.

And turning down a hottie for 7 days of continuous sex for the difference between $50 and $75 (which is $25 if you are paying attention. LOL) is patently insane. In fact the more you want her to submit and like you as a girlfriend the more likely you are to get girlfriend behavior and I don't mean the good kind. I mean entitled and whiny. Pay her a good wage and call it a day!

I know you even if ubare cheap u are not silly enough to argue over $25. So it's a pride thing and an attitude thing. Just get over it. 200 for 20 days was crazy and unrealistic. 200 for two days is a good deal! 300 for 7 days is a great deal! Just get over yourself. At least that is my POV.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I learned that people have very different ideas when it comes to paying money for pussy. This is especially true for Medellin aficionados. A beer in gusto costs 8 dollars after tip, my breakfast at Starbucks this morning costed 22 dollars. I'm sure if people can afford to monger internationally, they will consider 25 bucks pocket change. I think the fun is in the negotiation itself.

I've traveled 40+ countries, mongering is an integral part of my travels. I would say Medellin is tied for the number one mongering spot with Brazil in my book.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2453734]The report by Routard is fabulous. I've never mongered in S America. Would love to try. As you and I have frequented and reported on the same countries and venues in other threads, I would like to ask this: how does Colombia, and indeed S America compare with German FKKs and the options in Spain from Vive Madrid to Estark 92. I like latina looking girls but don't like a big ass on ladies. Would be interested in yours (and others) thoughts on the comparisons. I love Thailand because it is cheap and the options are plentiful, and I consider it fairly safe. Have had friends mugged in Rio. Comments appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't want to hijack this thread talking too much about places other than Medellin, so I will just say this much and leave it alone. You won't find anything like German FKKs in Colombia. The action is going to be more like what you will find in Madrid or Barcelona. Colombian girls are very pretty and friendly, and come in all kinds of shapes and sizes and shades of color. You don't like a big ass no problem. There would be plenty for you to choose from. I have humped many in Spain, Costa Rica, and Colombia itself. Even a few in Germany!

Now, my number one destination in the world is in S. America in Brazil. Why? Because I do love a plump, round, bouncy booty and the Brazilian girls specialize in this with their big "bundas". Now, it isn't that you can't find anything else in Brazil. You can and I have, and I've posted the photos over the years to prove it. It's just that if you like having anal sex with really pretty, big butt girls, then Brazil is heaven on this earth!

I will conclude with saying that the termas in Rio are based on a concept very similar to the German FKKs, but they tend not to be as big or nice. But those Brazilian girls are some kinda good in the sack! The best! And nobody cornholes as good as they do, except for Russian tutes maybe LOL! The best way to learn about Colombia or Brazil is to read several of the Reports of Distinction in the appropriate threads. As many as you can. Even if they are old, you will learn so much. Then you can follow up with questions to mongers in the know about each destination.

Sorry if this post annoys you guys who only want to read about Medellin. I just wanted to share a little of what I know, and I will make no other comparisons here.

I think Loutron is up there if it is still a viable business. Full disclosure, I haven't been to the place in 10+ years.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2453736]There are two in Medellin, La Isla and Gusto. Gusto is an American bar / night club with freelancers. You can find some youtube video. La Isla is strip club with room on site. I think the high end clubs at Bogota are not as good because they are not that many girls or customers when I was there, and is much more expensive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453720]True I love my luxe venues almost as much as the girls. But I had a forum buddy down in Medellin doing all Facebook girls, no street. And vids and pics he was sending. Wow! I love my Latinas.

I am traveling to Bogota but it seems less good than Medellin. And a flight is $15 LOL. Open to commentary from any experienced members here on the relative merits.

Not that I am into over paying a girl but is there a luxe venue in Medellin or Bogota where you can really enjoy the girl buffet and the chase in addition to the catch and release? 🤣.[/QUOTE]Agree with DramaFree11. Try this venue in Bogota: [URL]https://twitter.com/flirtbogota[/URL] [URL]http://flirthotelbogota.com/en/[/URL].

It's Like a Gusto nightclub ass, very hygienic. Matter of fact she is totally hygienic except when it comes to sex. Not the veracruz ass behind the church or on calle 53. When she strip dances she puts my face between them cheeks I just find myself all in. Maybe that's why I am going to be fucking her 24 hours for $12 a day. Maybe it's the dick. A midget nah unless she pretty as fuck. Pregnant woman nah not me. On her period nah not me. 60 girls this trip and she's the only one. I am straight bro. Put me in any category you want.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2453737]Too much information, I can see the toe licking, but the ass hole.

Don't fret though, there's other guys into that, besides banging them when they are on the rag bareback.

It's all good, unless of course things don't work out with your 8, than I guess you would be a "cheap ass, ass hole licker" but that's okay, we got guy's here into midgets, pregnant Chicas, and Sacaleros (glue-sniffers) so your in fine company here![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2453734]The report by Routard is fabulous. I've never mongered in S America. Would love to try. As you and I have frequented and reported on the same countries and venues in other threads, I would like to ask this: how does Colombia, and indeed S America compare with German FKKs and the options in Spain from Vive Madrid to Estark 92. I like latina looking girls but don't like a big ass on ladies. Would be interested in yours (and others) thoughts on the comparisons. I love Thailand because it is cheap and the options are plentiful, and I consider it fairly safe. Have had friends mugged in Rio. Comments appreciated.[/QUOTE]OMFG Routards dick must have long ago fallen off to have been to that many clubs and have that encyclopedic knowledge. That report is nothing short of a work of art. It would take 150 pages of ISG to cover all that by happenstance.

Reminds me now of London. Most people say London sucks. Well they just don't know what the fuck they are doing. Once you know what the fuck you are doing its awesome. Same with Moscow. Same with Japan. I was under the clearly mistaken impression that there was only the Zona because that was all anyone talked about in the Bogota thread. OMFG. Routard has given me the secret decoder ring. My dick will be forever grateful!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2453736]There are two in Medellin, La Isla and Gusto. Gusto is an American bar / night club with freelancers. You can find some youtube video. La Isla is strip club with room on site. I think the high end clubs at Bogota are not as good because they are not that many girls or customers when I was there, and is much more expensive.[/QUOTE]All good, however, not to the same caliber as Scandalo in SP.

IMO.

Not even close really.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2453725]A lot of people will tell you that Medellin is better. However for me, although I like Medellin better as a city, I found Bogota to be a far superior mongering destination. As the capital, it's just a lot bigger with way, way, way more action to offer. Medellin simply can't match the variety of options that Bogota presents. Check out this report from Routard. It is the most comprehensive report I have ever seen on Bogota, and one of the most thorough reports on any destination I have ever read. And it's accurate too. For awhile, he was updating it every year, but I don't recall seeing an update since this version. In any event, this information will serve you well. If you have a chance, you should sample Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and Cali (I did not like Barranquilla enough to recommend it, and I never made it to Santa Marta). But if you have to do just one and only one, I would go with Bogota: [POST]2241562[/POST].[/QUOTE]Yup. Bogota is a much bigger city and will have many more options for chicas than Medellin. But MDE has better weather and is a more pleasant city.

Sorry but I do not agree with your statement. If you like the vera cruz / el Centro scene then yes you are right. I have a long list of girls that are primarily facebook girls that have great figures and by no means are fat. As far as food, there are some really good restaurants in the Poblado area and some in Laureles. Medellin is a big city, don't generalize what you see in el centro as all of Medellin

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2453732]If you are into tall and skinny girls, MDE is not the place. Not to mention real bad food and even worse service. Nothing like the other places you have hang out. If you are in Bogota, and cheap flights are available check it out, but I real think you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2453851]Sorry but I do not agree with your statement. If you like the vera cruz / el Centro scene then yes you are right. I have a long list of girls that are primarily facebook girls that have great figures and by no means are fat. As far as food, there are some really good restaurants in the Poblado area and some in Laureles. Medellin is a big city, don't generalize what you see in el centro as all of Medellin.[/QUOTE]A lot of people judge the food and service in Medellin based upon US standards. Their taste buds are addicted to the high salt and sugar content and they can't enjoy the taste of real food.

As for service, most seem to think having a waiter interrupt your meal every 4 minutes is great service. It isn't. It's designed to get you out of the restaurant as soon as possible, or to get you to spend more money. If you can have a long conversation without interruption, you might spend an hour or more occupying that table. Fortunately, for the restaurant, there's a waiter who will ask if you need dessert, if you need more drinks, if you need anything else. Until you pay and leave.

Colombian service is simple. If you want something, ask for it. If you don't want something, enjoy yourself. I've sat with a group of Colombians in a restaurant 30 minutes after closing, with the entire staff waiting patiently and quietly to close and leave. Try that at Applebee's. All you need to do to get perfect service in Colombia is learn how to raise your hand slightly and make eye contact.

As for the food, I'd rather spend $3 for a complete lunch including real fruit juice than $13 on a burger and fries.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453755] I was under the clearly mistaken impression that there was only the Zona because that was all anyone talked about in the Bogota thread. OMFG.[/QUOTE]The Zona may be the best value in the world right now. To be able to bang a 9 or 10 for peanuts like $20 for an hour or $100 for a night (and some would say even that is overpaying) is unlike any experience I have seen.

But Steve, do not think that if you go outside the Zona you will get better value from a looks and performance perspective because you won't.

Looks and performance wise, if I am being honest, I would put the Brazilians ahead of the Colombians but the Brazilians are not as loyal. The Venezuelans beat the Colombians as well but they are transactional and IMO less trust worthy.

What is special about the Colombian experience, and it is not all the women but a lot of them, is their upbeat attitude and genuine desire to please.

Just today, one sugar baby prospect sent me a video that she was going to drive me like a Nascar car, and I have only video chatted with her.

Another says that she cannot wait until she can lie in my arms all night long, and I have not met her in person either.

When I was on a trip with one of my SBs, she put lotion into our shopping cart and when I asked her what it was for, she said, "So I can give you a back rub every night. ", and she did for at least 30 minutes every night without my even having to ask.

Yeah, Bogota is the place to go for the best and cheapest sex, but for me, that is only a fraction of the overall experience.

Anyone with info on lleras park. Slapshot or anyone please clue me in.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453908]Anyone with info on lleras park. Slapshot or anyone please clue me in.[/QUOTE]Just checked. Hooters GM thinks end of June. From what I have seen, a lot of places have shut down. Not sure if there will need to be re-investment to get everything back up to speed, or if it's just a facade.

By the way, your prices and haggling, combined with my cosy situation, have absolutely soured me on the process of finding chicas on FB / WA / Tinder / SA. All these 200-250 quotes now seem overpriced, because I've had 2-day threesomes for less, and it's a fucking quarantine. I expect girls to be more desperate to negotiate. I had a Vennie, say $500 USD for a few hours, today. Now, she is fucking hot, and can be found on SA, but fuck. First off, you quote me in USD, and it's already game over. Second, you send pics / vids and say you are living with your friend to do some modeling for money. Then try to gouge me? I laughed at her and explained the above. 2. 000.000 for a few hours. Blakman's heart has been working over-time, this past week, I think if I paid that much it might turn out to be the last straw.

I spent hours yesterday talking to more than a dozen girls. Pico / cedula, too expensive, second wave of photos weren't as good as advertised, etc etc etc. I spent a couple hours today going back and forth with a half-dozen girls. Nothing. I can't pull the trigger. I don't know what it is. Somebody tase me!

I think I just need to accept that 150.000 ($40) or 250.000 ($66) doesn't really matter. I should focus more on if I want to fuck, and if I want more than their offer of one hour / one fuck / whatever.

All you guys stuck out of the country have it easy! .

Oh, non-ISG-related, I got so excited about this build-up for the Matarife documentary about the former president, etc. I sat down for dinner, pull up YouTube, click on Chapter / Episode 1. It's fucking 6 minutes! Stupid shit.

You can find tall and skinny, but not easy. I've seen a few. Much easier to find short and skinny (spinner). I have to disagree with the food and service. I have had my share of bad meals and bad service all over the world, including Medellin and Bogota. But there are some VERY good restaurants in Medellin. Sometimes service is bad, but sometimes it's a cultural difference. You won't be handed the check the minute you finish your meal. That's not how it works in Colombian culture.

If you only care about chicas, Bogota has some great options. And if you also care about seeing something, then Bogota it worth one trip. You can go to the Salt Cathedral or Monserrati. Enjoy some good meals. Enjoy some good clubs. My ex-wife is from Bogota, so spent a good amount of time there. Too cold, too polluted, and too much traffic for me.

I like Medellin for the weather and the people. Yes, there can be pollution. Yes, there can be traffic. But it's a much more pleasant place to be, at least for me.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2453732]If you are into tall and skinny girls, MDE is not the place. Not to mention real bad food and even worse service. Nothing like the other places you have hang out. If you are in Bogota, and cheap flights are available check it out, but I real think you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE]

May 26,2020.

Robberies.

How do robberies in Parque Botero occur? Easy, especially if you spend a lot of time in Medellin and frequent the parque. First off let me be the first to say that the robberies have caused the overall girls in the parque to suffer. The parque has a ring leader that many of the girls are afraid of and they answer to her. If you like repeat girls, this is where the one time hit her and quit her benefits. The ring leader attempts to get the girls who you date to find out the things you like, for example, body type, or sexual preferences.

These girls do anything to get you to agree to another date to observe you and to learn more information about you and to lure you into trusting them. Many of them will try and bring you your drink after it has been opened, or pretend to be under age and extort money from you in order to leave the room. I have seen the entire process in action and I have thanked my lucky stars that I have not been robbed or poisoned but trust me, I have inside information about the ring leader and I have had dates with many of the girls who report to her. Nowadays if I suspect that a girl works with the ring leader I will refuse her any dates.

Robberies and schemes are at an all-time high, you must be extremely careful, these are desperate times and people are trying many new schemes to rob Americans and other foreigners. Do not drop your guard, because I have been visiting Medellin for 2 years and had no idea how much these girls were watching me and taking down notes, trust me, be careful with any of the girls in the parque.

With that being said, I will still stand by my word that it does not matter if you date a $35,000 pesos chic from Veracruz or a $300,000 pesos chic from Poblado, if she wants to rob you she will rob you. The more you pay does not guarantee you a good date. So save the upscale chic versus the low scale chic, a working girl is a working girl! Pollo Negro is out!

I think from being here so long you develop a sense of what these girls true value are. In the beginning you may have been fine with it, but now your mind is like fuck no. I don't care if I have to sit tonight out. Especially since you got the great deal going with wifey. You are not alone with your thinking Big baller. Many are Centro type of money. 50 mil why 20 mil taxi LOL trying to get 200- 250 mil.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2453917]Just checked. Hooters GM thinks end of June. From what I have seen, a lot of places have shut down. Not sure if there will need to be re-investment to get everything back up to speed, or if it's just a facade.

By the way, your prices and haggling, combined with my cosy situation, have absolutely soured me on the process of finding chicas on FB / WA / Tinder / SA. All these 200-250 quotes now seem overpriced, because I've had 2-day threesomes for less, and it's a fucking quarantine. I expect girls to be more desperate to negotiate. I had a Vennie, say $500 USD for a few hours, today. Now, she is fucking hot, and can be found on SA, but fuck. First off, you quote me in USD, and it's already game over. Second, you send pics / vids and say you are living with your friend to do some modeling for money. Then try to gouge me? I laughed at her and explained the above. 2. 000.000 for a few hours. Blakman's heart has been working over-time, this past week, I think if I paid that much it might turn out to be the last straw.

I spent hours yesterday talking to more than a dozen girls. Pico / cedula, too expensive, second wave of photos weren't as good as advertised, etc etc etc. I spent a couple hours today going back and forth with a half-dozen girls. Nothing. I can't pull the trigger. I don't know what it is. Somebody tase me!

I think I just need to accept that 150.000 ($40) or 250.000 ($66) doesn't really matter. I should focus more on if I want to fuck, and if I want more than their offer of one hour / one fuck / whatever.

All you guys stuck out of the country have it easy! .

Oh, non-ISG-related, I got so excited about this build-up for the Matarife documentary about the former president, etc. I sat down for dinner, pull up YouTube, click on Chapter / Episode 1. It's fucking 6 minutes! Stupid shit.[/QUOTE].

Hi,

Wondering what people's opinions are as to whether flights will actually resume before the end of the Emergencia Sanitario. I saw the humanitarian repatriation flights during June but didn't book any of them in time. I see starting July 5 Spirit has regularly scheduled flights as well as JetBlue and Interjet. I am assuming they are tentatively scheduled and that the airlines are happy to take anyone's money who is happy to pay and then just hold it as credit towards future travel in the likely event that they need to reschedule. The emergency measures seem to pretty clearly state there will be no national or international flights before August at the earliest and no travel between municipalities. Anyone heard anything regarding any of this changing before August, or have any info on how to arrange to travel Inter-city during the emergency measures. I was on a motorcycle tour and have been staying on a finca since the quarantine started, but would really prefer to return to Mde if at all possible.

Blakman, this post tells me you reached a level of awareness that some haven't even after years in Colombia. I've had more than one girl I met at Centro casas tell me they get six figure dates out of Parque Lleras and the mansion. I mentioned this to a punter I met at Hooters and he would not accept it. He told me I was full of shit. I accepted his assessment even though I knew he was mistaken.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453930]I think from being here so long you develop a sense of what these girls true value are. In the beginning you may have been fine with it, but now your mind is like fuck no. I don't care if I have to sit tonight out. Especially since you got the great deal going with wifey. You are not alone with your thinking Big baller. Many are Centro type of money. 50 mil why 20 mil taxi LOL trying to get 200- 250 mil..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2453872]A lot of people judge the food and service in Medellin based upon US standards. Their taste buds are addicted to the high salt and sugar content and they can't enjoy the taste of real food.

As for service, most seem to think having a waiter interrupt your meal every 4 minutes is great service. It isn't. It's designed to get you out of the restaurant as soon as possible, or to get you to spend more money. If you can have a long conversation without interruption, you might spend an hour or more occupying that table. Fortunately, for the restaurant, there's a waiter who will ask if you need dessert, if you need more drinks, if you need anything else. Until you pay and leave.

Colombian service is simple. If you want something, ask for it. If you don't want something, enjoy yourself. I've sat with a group of Colombians in a restaurant 30 minutes after closing, with the entire staff waiting patiently and quietly to close and leave. Try that at Applebee's. All you need to do to get perfect service in Colombia is learn how to raise your hand slightly and make eye contact.

As for the food, I'd rather spend $3 for a complete lunch including real fruit juice than $13 on a burger and fries.[/QUOTE]Colombian Food tends to be loaded with sugar and salt (and starch). Every bit if not more than that in the USA.

That said, I disagree with the poster criticizing the food in MDE. While you may not find any Michelin starred restaurants, there are some very solid options at ridiculously low prices. Provenza and Envigado are the best restaurant zones IMO. But I've had good restaurant experience all over the metro area.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2453929]May 26,2020.

Robberies.

The parque has a ring leader that many of the girls are afraid of and they answer to her. If you like repeat girls, this is where the one time hit her and quit her benefits. The ring leader attempts to get the girls who you date to find out the things you like, for example, body type, or sexual preferences.

Robberies and schemes are at an all-time high, you must be extremely careful, these are desperate times and people are trying many new schemes to rob Americans and other foreigners.
Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]If possible, this will help the uninformed keep their distance from this POS. Thank you and be safe out there.

Starch, salt, sugar and grease are the 4 food groups. Cooking oil is purchased by the gallon. Rice is central. There are excellent restaurants in Medellin but very few of them specialize in Colombian food. Some outlier examples of those few restaurants are Idilico, El Trompo, and oci. Mde. I hope they survive the quarantine. This thread is about the Medellin restaurant scene and Colombian food. Moving on from Colombian food, the restaurant scene was very good and improving pre-coronavirus. Provenza, Milan, Envigado and even Buenos Aires are where you can find interesting and well prepared meals. The typical overcooked meat with heavily seasoned starchy sides can be found everywhere. The fruit juice is the best of most of the executive lunches, if you remember to order it with no added sugar.

[QUOTE=Combo;2453947]Colombian Food tends to be loaded with sugar and salt (and starch). Every bit if not more than that in the USA.

That said, I disagree with the poster criticizing the food in MDE. While you may not find any Michelin starred restaurants, there are some very solid options at ridiculously low prices. Provenza and Envigado are the best restaurant zones IMO. But I've had good restaurant experience all over the metro area.[/QUOTE]

I don't have an opinion. I will share these facts. The Minister of Transportation and the President confirmed there will be no flights until at least September 1. By act of Congress, airlines that operate in the United States are required to provide full refunds in the event they cancel flights because of Coronavirus travel restrictions.

[QUOTE=SeanWilks;2453932]Hi,

Wondering what people's opinions are as to whether flights will actually resume before the end of the Emergencia Sanitario. I saw the humanitarian repatriation flights during June but didn't book any of them in time. I see starting July 5 Spirit has regularly scheduled flights as well as JetBlue and Interjet. I am assuming they are tentatively scheduled and that the airlines are happy to take anyone's money who is happy to pay and then just hold it as credit towards future travel in the likely event that they need to reschedule. The emergency measures seem to pretty clearly state there will be no national or international flights before August at the earliest and no travel between municipalities. Anyone heard anything regarding any of this changing before August, or have any info on how to arrange to travel Inter-city during the emergency measures. I was on a motorcycle tour and have been staying on a finca since the quarantine started, but would really prefer to return to Mde if at all possible.[/QUOTE]

One of my flights for June 6 they kept active knowing there was a travel ban.

What they did was cancel my flight from medellin to ft Lauderdale and kept active my flight from fort Lauderdale to New York. If I can't get to fort Lauderdale then how the hell I am going to fly from ft Lauderdale to New York

[QUOTE=SeanWilks;2453932]Hi,

Wondering what people's opinions are as to whether flights will actually resume before the end of the Emergencia Sanitario. I saw the humanitarian repatriation flights during June but didn't book any of them in time. I see starting July 5 Spirit has regularly scheduled flights as well as JetBlue and Interjet. I am assuming they are tentatively scheduled and that the airlines are happy to take anyone's money who is happy to pay and then just hold it as credit towards future travel in the likely event that they need to reschedule. The emergency measures seem to pretty clearly state there will be no national or international flights before August at the earliest and no travel between municipalities. Anyone heard anything regarding any of this changing before August, or have any info on how to arrange to travel Inter-city during the emergency measures. I was on a motorcycle tour and have been staying on a finca since the quarantine started, but would really prefer to return to Mde if at all possible.[/QUOTE].

I had one girl come to my place. And it seem for certain she didn't come to fuck. It seem like she was not experience with her intentions to steal and was texting excessively and fast like she was receiving instructions. After about 20 minutes or so she made an excuse about something going wrong at home and she had to leave. Subsequent 2 other girls tried the same method and I started to feel am I being targeted. They were from tinder but could easily be from centro area or all been working together. As I mentioned before. Tinder has changed dramatically from university girls to now young and older hustlers. Definitely be alert.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2453952]If possible, this will help the uninformed keep their distance from this POS. Thank you and be safe out there.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2453954]Starch, salt, sugar and grease are the 4 food groups. Cooking oil is purchased by the gallon. Rice is central. There are excellent restaurants in Medellin but very few of them specialize in Colombian food. Some outlier examples of those few restaurants are Idilico, El Trompo, and oci. Mde. I hope they survive the quarantine. This thread is about the Medellin restaurant scene and Colombian food. Moving on from Colombian food, the restaurant scene was very good and improving pre-coronavirus. Provenza, Milan, Envigado and even Buenos Aires are where you can find interesting and well prepared meals. The typical overcooked meat with heavily seasoned starchy sides can be found everywhere. The fruit juice is the best of most of the executive lunches, if you remember to order it with no added sugar.[/QUOTE]The MDE restaurant scene has improved dramatically over the last 10 years. You're right -- most people, both Colombians and extranjeros, prefer Peruvian, Italian, Mexican, etc over actual Colombian food. Although every once in a while a good Bandeja Paisa really hits the spot.

One of my flights for June 6 they kept active knowing there was a travel ban.

What they did was cancel my flight from Medellin to ft Lauderdale and kept active my flight from fort Lauderdale to New York. If I can't get to fort Lauderdale then how the hell I am going to fly from ft Lauderdale to New York.

Airlines are getting worst, and it will probably get even worse. Check out the prices, they have raised them dramatically, this sucks. I am changing my game and just going to drive to Monterrey now and screw them. I will only fly to Tijuana occasionally and maybe Russia over the Holidays depending on the fared, it will be a new world.

It is odd. The announcement about 8/31 is out. Copa then cancelled my August trip, but JetBlue has not cancelled my early July trip yet. I'm just waiting. Either way I'll get a credit which I will use to schedule a flight somewhere else or to Medellin later. Not quite sure I have a great explanation for the two different strategies.

[QUOTE=SeanWilks;2453932]Hi,

Wondering what people's opinions are as to whether flights will actually resume before the end of the Emergencia Sanitario. I saw the humanitarian repatriation flights during June but didn't book any of them in time. I see starting July 5 Spirit has regularly scheduled flights as well as JetBlue and Interjet. I am assuming they are tentatively scheduled and that the airlines are happy to take anyone's money who is happy to pay and then just hold it as credit towards future travel in the likely event that they need to reschedule. The emergency measures seem to pretty clearly state there will be no national or international flights before August at the earliest and no travel between municipalities. Anyone heard anything regarding any of this changing before August, or have any info on how to arrange to travel Inter-city during the emergency measures. I was on a motorcycle tour and have been staying on a finca since the quarantine started, but would really prefer to return to Mde if at all possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453930]I think from being here so long you develop a sense of what these girls true value are. In the beginning you may have been fine with it, but now your mind is like fuck no. I don't care if I have to sit tonight out. Especially since you got the great deal going with wifey. You are not alone with your thinking Big baller. Many are Centro type of money. 50 mil why 20 mil taxi LOL trying to get 200- 250 mil.[/QUOTE]The problem is that most guys do not want to negotiate for whatever reason. I will never understand this. They accept the first price that a chick gives as firm. Before I even ask a chick how much, I know how much I am going to pay. I simply ask her to go through the motions and know where her head is or to get a good laugh.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2453933]Blakman, this post tells me you reached a level of awareness that some haven't even after years in Colombia. I've had more than one girl I met at Centro casas tell me they get six figure dates out of Parque Lleras and the mansion. I mentioned this to a punter I met at Hooters and he would not accept it. He told me I was full of shit. I accepted his assessment even though I knew he was mistaken.[/QUOTE]In these threads where guys think I am lying or whatever and saying things are impossible, I ask, "And you know this because you have tried it many times and it has never worked?" Of course they have never tried it, they are just assuming I guess. On his first trip out Blakman proved that all you have to do is open your mouth. A closed mouth does not get fed, and I certainly would not go around saying how impossible something is if I have not at least tried it a few times.

For years over in the Thailand thread I have been saying how you can get one of the esteemed gogo girls for a fraction of the price if you find them somewhere outside of the gogo, at a disco for instance. Guys have always said how impossible it was and treated these chicks like unicorns that would only accept the expensive price they get in the gogo. They have acted like the only place you can run into one of these chicks is in the gogo and the chicks are not out everyday doing regular shit like regular people. I have said these chicks are regular ass people, but you are letting the makeup, being half nekkit on a stage, and the lights inside of the gogo fool you into believing they are unicorns. Thanks to the Covid, one of the biggest spenders in the Thailand thread has finally seen the light:

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2452805]Mr. E is right. In the past, I paid over 8000 including barfine and drinks for this girl Pang that worked What's Up and Pin Up (most recent). XXL got her for 1500 baht plus shrimp fried rice. So I have to eat my own words. The devil is definitely in the details. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453967]I had one girl come to my place. And it seem for certain she didn't come to fuck. It seem like she was not experience with her intentions to steal and was texting excessively and fast like she was receiving instructions. After about 20 minutes or so she made an excuse about something going wrong at home and she had to leave.[/QUOTE]Chicks tickle me with the something wrong excuse, like they are going to be able to solve it. Last time I was in Dominican Republic a chick was supposed to stay all night, but got a call after the first shot that said her brother in law was in an accident. I asked her if she was a doctor. If not, what the fuck could she do about it. Fine with me, here is half of money you were supposed to get. She sweared I was wrong for not giving her the entire fee. Why should my pocket suffer because you need to go take care of the problems of someone that I do not even know? If I am paying for something, then that is exactly what I plan on getting.

Sounds like spirit airlines?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453960]One of my flights for June 6 they kept active knowing there was a travel ban.

What they did was cancel my flight from medellin to ft Lauderdale and kept active my flight from fort Lauderdale to New York. If I can't get to fort Lauderdale then how the hell I am going to fly from ft Lauderdale to New York

.[/QUOTE].

May 27,2020.

I have continued to have much fun in Medellin since I arrived. I have the 2 sisters that are just plain outstanding, I now have a stud lesbian, and her really cute girlfriend. I also have Ana the great beautiful spinner. Well let me start off by saying, hands down, no one in Medellin thus far comes close to the performance of the the Stud, period. She is just ball of energy who never says no to any request that I have asked. I met the stud through one of the sisters.

I have never asked the stud for Anal because she has external hemorrhoids, but everything else on the menu is a go. She allows FF, CIM, BBBJ, Rimming, you name it. This girl is a animal in the bedroom if she likes you. I personally spent 2 days with her laying around my place feeling her out to see if we were socially comparable. I am not into dating or banging chics who have no chemistry with me. She would drink a few beers while I banged the sister who was not pregnant and at the end of our sessions, I would just give her $20,000 pesos for coming over with the sister. Hands down, after our initial session, I knew she would be put into rotation without any problem whatsoever. Since I have a live in girlfriend I haven't had much freedom to roam so she thinks that I was avoiding. She sweetened the deal by offering me her small beautiful spinner girlfriend. 4'10" and 90 lbs with curves in the right places. Every chance I get all 3 of us sneak to a short term hotel fo are a quick session.

Then there is the sister who is not pregnant, who has absolute outstanding sex, but who has now developed an attitude with me because I have a live in girlfriend. I explained, I said nothing when you were leaving my place 3 times a weeks to take my coins back home to your family and husband, but you think I would not find a girlfriend? Your choice, don't give me anymore dates until you can get pass your emotional BS. She was quickly replying to ask me to calm down and when could she have another date. These girls are unbelievable at times.

Then Ana has made her presence known by offering everything on the menu and performing with enthusiasm like I have never seen. On our most recent dates, she has been down for anything and she has even shocked me. I have banged her tiny third eye on every session and gave her huge facials and she just laughs and runs to the bathroom to clean up and return to the room afterwards, yes I pay her a little more for her new sessions, but every coin Is worth it.

Last but not least is the sister who has just delivered. I had a session with her when she was 5 weeks post delivery and it was really like Blah. I chose to not write or call her because the session was not up to my standards. Since the sister was acting crappy with me, and I have a live in girlfriend, the 2 sisters have been struggling with finances because the sister who was just pregnant is very selective about doing dates. So they are making little to on money relying on clients from the park.

I told the sister who just delivered, that if the sex isn't like it was before, then I would not give her any more dates. Well she finally set up a date and gave me 3 hours of non stop rocketman outerspace type of session. I banged her for about 45 minutes non stop during the session and every time she would orgasm, her breast would saturate the sheets. Milk would shoot across the room in a high stream. She would get wet and wetter. The session was absolutely great. I have appointments with all of them today, so lets see out of the 4 sessions scheduled how many do I actually complete? Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454013]Chicks tickle me with the something wrong excuse, like they are going to be able to solve it. Last time I was in Dominican Republic a chick was supposed to stay all night, but got a call after the first shot that said her brother in law was in an accident. I asked her if she was a doctor. If not, what the fuck could she do about it. Fine with me, here is half of money you were supposed to get. She sweared I was wrong for not giving her the entire fee. Why should my pocket suffer because you need to go take care of the problems of someone that I do not even know? If I am paying for something, then that is exactly what I plan on getting.[/QUOTE]I think we all have had this played on us, just a part of the game.

My most recent experience was right before the quarantine here in Medellin, a paisa whom I have known for a few years and have been with for probably 6 or 7 times came up with "oh my younger sister is drunk and in a bar a few blocks away, she just started working as a ho, well she needs help, I need to go and make sure she is OK", well I remind her that our deal was for 3 to 4 hours for 70-80 mil and as many pops as I wanted, so we just have been together for a little over an hour and had just one pop, you can go but you broke the deal, now fast forward 3 months later and she is pleading with me via whatsapp to help her out, I remind her to ask her sister for help, I have a memory like an elephant, hehehehe.

The Tall Man.

There was a post about an increase in robberies in Parque Botero which makes sense given the Pandemic, and supposedly there is a "ringleader" of girls orchestrating this with other girls.

Seems a bit peculiar, not the robberies, but girls reporting to someone else and I'm assuming having to share in the spoils, versus girls independently stealing and keeping everything for themselves.

And from what I have heard from others on the ground in the last few weeks, it's not like it was before the Pandemic at ground zero.

Way less clients, let alone foreigners available for the girls working the Botero area.

Can anyone else confirm what has been reported relative to a "ringleader' and her girls.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454013]Chicks tickle me with the something wrong excuse, like they are going to be able to solve it. Last time I was in Dominican Republic a chick was supposed to stay all night, but got a call after the first shot that said her brother in law was in an accident. I asked her if she was a doctor. If not, what the fuck could she do about it. Fine with me, here is half of money you were supposed to get. She sweared I was wrong for not giving her the entire fee. Why should my pocket suffer because you need to go take care of the problems of someone that I do not even know? If I am paying for something, then that is exactly what I plan on getting.[/QUOTE]The post you responded to by Blakman had nothing to do with money, but was about Chicas he had at his place on two different occasions who were obviously there to scope him out, and potentially rob him.

His post highlights the desperation of Chica's given the Pandemic trying to survive and to keep your guard up even higher than before.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2453982]It is odd. The announcement about 8/31 is out. Copa then cancelled my August trip, but JetBlue has not cancelled my early July trip yet. I'm just waiting. Either way I'll get a credit which I will use to schedule a flight somewhere else or to Medellin later. Not quite sure I have a great explanation for the two different strategies.[/QUOTE]Regardless of the airlines strategies, I'm not even contemplating buying a ticket to Medellin until I know exactly what the entry requirements are going to be to get back in. Unfortunately I suspect it will be testing and quarantining for two weeks.

I was grinding all day to find some one for last night. While in Exito Wow, I was scrolling through my WhatsApp conversations from a year ago. I saw a name of a girl that I had been with a couple times when I stayed at Energy. She was a fit-chick, single mom, good time. My next trip, I decided to test her on the payment amount. She got upset, started saying shit about street rats, ugly girls, whatever. She has an American WhatsApp number, and had a gringo ex. Well, I never saw her that trip. The next trip, she had a boyfriend. Last trip, I don't think I contacted her. So anyway, I send her a message asking if she has the new pico / cedula schedule. Random, but I didn't want to get her in trouble with a boyfriend, if she still had one. She responds that I should look on the internet; everything is on the internet. Still holding that grudge haha.

Anyway, she offers to help me. She sends me a list of maybe 8-9 girls. All good looking. All different types. The problem is, it's the extranjero ring. Anyway, she starts speaking on behalf of the girl I want: what time, how much, etc. Well, turns out, that girl isn't available. So, now it's after 6 pm. My building water is off, supposedly maybe until 630 p. I walked to Exito & worked out, so I'm hoping to get a girl, and take a shower. I make a second selection. She's available at 8 p. Perfect. I say 2 pops 2 hours. 400 k. I say that's expensive during the pandemic, no? Then I get an earful and have to explain myself: fewer gringos, no new tourists or businessmen, etc. We don't agree. Ok, great. Moving along. I concede because this chick's photos are amazing. Not your typical bikini / lingerie or dressed to the 9's. She's in jeans and a cute top, amazing 10 out of 10 smile, long dark hair, big fake tits.

My amiga not-so-amiga-amiga messages around 8:20 to check on us. Her friend has not yet arrived. Not a big deal, because I was eating dinner at 7:30 p, then showered, and was just chillin. She arrives and I'm happy. It wasn't but 5 mins of convo before I asked who she lives with, and her response was: my two children. Ok, not ideal, but not going to kill my mood or night. I think she had a fake culo, to go with her fake tits, BUT, she was doing some of Blakman's favorite dancing in the jacuzzi, and was enjoying the music / drinks. Unfortunately, she wasn't into DFK, which took away from the passion, a bit. I had her from behind in the jacuzzi, then sitting up on the corner, until she complained about her head banging off the wall, then from behind, again. Big round ass, skinny-thick build that can take a pounding, and she was into it. A few too many comments about being big, but who knows, she was dousing herself with handfuls of baby oil to help.

We have a nice long conversation about several topics. She's not into girls, but she'll come back to party with Wifey and I (Wifey was at home, for this, just in case that wasn't clear). She checks the clock, once we're downstairs, and starts putting her shoes on. I say, whoa whoa whoa. She notes the time, I note the pop (s). We head back upstairs to the guest bedroom. We had a good sweat, for round two. Eventually, I just gave up and we used the massage oil to manual completion (I had to take over). Oh, also, no BBBJ was a downer, but most of these high-priced FB / WA crew girls are the ones with all the rules.

All-in-all, of course, for many, not worth 400 k. For me, if I had that night in LV / LA for $100, I'd be jerking off just thinking about it, right now. It was a good experience and I think I will keep in touch with her for other girls, well, keep in touch with both of them, for times when I'm in a pinch and looking for something I can be confident about. Looking at this list, again, it's a real high-end list. I would think my amiga-non-amiga would be ok if I asked her if I could share her contact info. It's all about money for these yummy mummies. Thus, feel free to PM, if interested, and I'll check with her.

I can confirm there are far fewer punters in Parque Botero than there were pre-virus. There are only slightly fewer girls and their numbers increase every week.

I don't understand much of the robbery gang Pollo post. Everybody knows about drugging, robberies, and scams that happen. It's always helpful to be reminded from time to time so we don't get complacent. The conspiracy references and the ringleader who collects payment add a cinematic flair to what all but the most naive punters know about these girls. I got lost about what's new and different, something about girls figuring out what body type guys like and getting them to repeat so they can gain trust and drug them. I think my blind spot is that I'm not in the habit of bringing Parque Botero girls to my apartment or getting into slapshot style fiestas with them. Maybe that makes me risk averse. My usual method is to bring dates to the Botero Bulevar or similar short time place. If I think back, the times I've had Botero bunnies at my place are few and far between.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454133]There was a post about an increase in robberies in Parque Botero which makes sense given the Pandemic, and supposedly there is a "ringleader" of girls orchestrating this with other girls.

Seems a bit peculiar, not the robberies, but girls reporting to someone else and I'm assuming having to share in the spoils, versus girls independently stealing and keeping everything for themselves.

And from what I have heard from others on the ground in the last few weeks, it's not like it was before the Pandemic at ground zero.

Way less clients, let alone foreigners available for the girls working the Botero area.

Can anyone else confirm what has been reported relative to a "ringleader' and her girls.[/QUOTE]

Slapshot man you broke my heart. I was really enjoying this post and then you had to ruin it with my pet peeve. I'm a firm believer that it's none of my beeswax who pays what. On a purely practical level I don't believe it affects what anyone else has to pay. My pet peeve is when guys know they either paid more than they had to pay and / or got less than they expected for what they paid, then rationalize with "this would have cost so much more in London / Paris / L. A. / New York."

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2454147]I was grinding all day to find some one for last night. While in Exito Wow, I was scrolling through my WhatsApp conversations from a year ago. I saw a name of a girl that I had been with a couple times when I stayed at Energy. She was a fit-chick, single mom, good time. My next trip, I decided to test her on the payment amount. She got upset, started saying shit about street rats, ugly girls, whatever. She has an American WhatsApp number, and had a gringo ex. Well, I never saw her that trip. The next trip, she had a boyfriend. Last trip, I don't think I contacted her. So anyway, I send her a message asking if she has the new pico / cedula schedule. Random, but I didn't want to get her in trouble with a boyfriend, if she still had one. She responds that I should look on the internet; everything is on the internet. Still holding that grudge haha.

Anyway, she offers to help me. She sends me a list of maybe 8-9 girls. All good looking. All different types. The problem is, it's the extranjero ring. Anyway, she starts speaking on behalf of the girl I want: what time, how much, etc. Well, turns out, that girl isn't available. So, now it's after 6 pm. My building water is off, supposedly maybe until 630 p. I walked to Exito & worked out, so I'm hoping to get a girl, and take a shower. I make a second selection. She's available at 8 p. Perfect. I say 2 pops 2 hours. 400 k. I say that's expensive during the pandemic, no? Then I get an earful and have to explain myself: fewer gringos, no new tourists or businessmen, etc. We don't agree. Ok, great. Moving along. I concede because this chick's photos are amazing. Not your typical bikini / lingerie or dressed to the 9's. She's in jeans and a cute top, amazing 10 out of 10 smile, long dark hair, big fake tits..[/QUOTE]

Did you ever hook up with the Tabarez chica amigo? She's been hitting me up a lot recently.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2412923]Hey all,

I've been reading reports on here for a while and am now getting ready for a three day trip in February. All the advice and info on here has been fantastic. I'm sorry I haven't posted before and will definitely write about my experience when I get back.

Anyway, I've been playing the Facebook game and have gotten in touch with around 50 prepagos. I'm a fluent Spanish speaker so communication has not been an issue. Some of my interactions have been pretty amusing actually. I was talking to one girl who was all into it until I asked her if she did anal. First she says "Que? Hamas haria esto". Then suddenly "Mira que tengo un novio muy celoso asi que ya no puedo verte". The funny part was that she gets back to me about 3 days later claiming her mom saw her phone and didn't know she was a prepago (so she wrote that she had a boyfriend to trick her mom and not because she freaked out about anal) and she would actually love to see me. I've got a range of responses that range from not answering questions to being quite prompt, enthusiastic and specific. That combined with pictures has already given me a good sense of who I might want to see..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2454152]I can confirm there are far fewer punters in Parque Botero than there were pre-virus. There are only slightly fewer girls and their numbers increase every week.

I don't understand much of the robbery gang Pollo post. Everybody knows about drugging, robberies, and scams that happen. It's always helpful to be reminded from time to time so we don't get complacent. The conspiracy references and the ringleader who collects payment add a cinematic flair to what all but the most naive punters know about these girls. I got lost about what's new and different, something about girls figuring out what body type guys like and getting them to repeat so they can gain trust and drug them. I think my blind spot is that I'm not in the habit of bringing Parque Botero girls to my apartment or getting into slapshot style fiestas with them. Maybe that makes me risk averse. My usual method is to bring dates to the Botero Bulevar or similar short time place. If I think back, the times I've had Botero bunnies at my place are few and far between.[/QUOTE]I don't understand it either. A year ago he was arguing with me when I said the place you're most likely to get robbed by a chica is in your apartment.

Personally I'm much less worried about girls I repeat with. I know their behavior. I know what's normal for them. I know whether they're comfortable or nervous. If a repeat girl shows up, intent on robbing me, it will be obvious something isn't right.

Just fucking with you slapshot. I cannot do the fake ass but I did say I cannot do the fake breast before coming. But find myself doing 4 so far. 2 really good operations and 2 bad one. The 8th suppose to come tonight for the 7 day stay. She's been a little wish washy so we will see. Met 2 nice one from tinder. One decline 120 mil 3 hrs, but the better one accepted the 120 mil. Hit her up next week unless the 8 cancels then 2 morrow. Slapshot a 7 ask me to do a 3 some for 400 mil. I said oh no that's too much. She curse me out. I need your money can I get loan LOL. I just want to add slapshot at that price you should get everything done. Just a cheapy charlie opinion

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2454147]I was grinding all day to find some one for last night. While in Exito Wow, I was scrolling through my WhatsApp conversations from a year ago. I saw a name of a girl that I had been with a couple times when I stayed at Energy. She was a fit-chick, single mom, good time. My next trip, I decided to test her on the payment amount. She got upset, started saying shit about street rats, ugly girls, whatever. She has an American WhatsApp number, and had a gringo ex. Well, I never saw her that trip. The next trip, she had a boyfriend. Last trip, I don't think I contacted her. So anyway, I send her a message asking if she has the new pico / cedula schedule. Random, but I didn't want to get her in trouble with a boyfriend, if she still had one. She responds that I should look on the internet; everything is on the internet. Still holding that grudge haha.

Anyway, she offers to help me. She sends me a list of maybe 8-9 girls. All good looking. All different types. The problem is, it's the extranjero ring. Anyway, she starts speaking on behalf of the girl I want: what time, how much, etc. Well, turns out, that girl isn't available. So, now it's after 6 pm. My building water is off, supposedly maybe until 630 p. I walked to Exito & worked out, so I'm hoping to get a girl, and take a shower. I make a second selection. She's available at 8 p. Perfect. I say 2 pops 2 hours. 400 k. I say that's expensive during the pandemic, no? Then I get an earful and have to explain myself: fewer gringos, no new tourists or businessmen, etc. We don't agree. Ok, great. Moving along. I concede because this chick's photos are amazing. Not your typical bikini / lingerie or dressed to the 9's. She's in jeans and a cute top, amazing 10 out of 10 smile, long dark hair, big fake tits.

My amiga not-so-amiga-amiga messages around 8:20 to check on us. Her friend has not yet arrived. Not a big deal, because I was eating dinner at 7:30 p, then showered, and was just chillin. She arrives and I'm happy. It wasn't but 5 mins of convo before I asked who she lives with, and her response was: my two children. Ok, not ideal, but not going to kill my mood or night. I think she had a fake culo, to go with her fake tits, BUT, she was doing some of Blakman's favorite dancing in the jacuzzi, and was enjoying the music / drinks. Unfortunately, she wasn't into DFK, which took away from the passion, a bit. I had her from behind in the jacuzzi, then sitting up on the corner, until she complained about her head banging off the wall, then from behind, again. Big round ass, skinny-thick build that can take a pounding, and she was into it. A few too many comments about being big, but who knows, she was dousing herself with handfuls of baby oil to help.

We have a nice long conversation about several topics. She's not into girls, but she'll come back to party with Wifey and I (Wifey was at home, for this, just in case that wasn't clear). She checks the clock, once we're downstairs, and starts putting her shoes on. I say, whoa whoa whoa. She notes the time, I note the pop (s). We head back upstairs to the guest bedroom. We had a good sweat, for round two. Eventually, I just gave up and we used the massage oil to manual completion (I had to take over). Oh, also, no BBBJ was a downer, but most of these high-priced FB / WA crew girls are the ones with all the rules.

All-in-all, of course, for many, not worth 400 k. For me, if I had that night in LV / LA for $100, I'd be jerking off just thinking about it, right now. It was a good experience and I think I will keep in touch with her for other girls, well, keep in touch with both of them, for times when I'm in a pinch and looking for something I can be confident about. Looking at this list, again, it's a real high-end list. I would think my amiga-non-amiga would be ok if I asked her if I could share her contact info. It's all about money for these yummy mummies. Thus, feel free to PM, if interested, and I'll check with her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454134]The post you responded to by Blakman had nothing to do with money, but was about Chicas he had at his place on two different occasions who were obviously there to scope him out, and potentially rob him.

His post highlights the desperation of Chica's given the Pandemic trying to survive and to keep your guard up even higher than before.[/QUOTE]My response was not about money either. I just wanted to draw attention to the part where the girl said she had an emergency that she needed to handle. What was she really going to do that someone that was closer to the "emergency" or that told her about it not going to be able to do? For some strange reason I never get calls about emergencies that I need to attend to.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454186]My response was not about money either. I just wanted to draw attention to the part where the girl said she had an emergency that she needed to handle. What was she really going to do that someone that was closer to the "emergency" or that told her about it not going to be able to do? For some strange reason I never get calls about emergencies that I need to attend to.[/QUOTE]Yes I know Mr E, I just wanted to draw attention to what Blakmans post was about, and as you know, I would never, ever, dare to contradict one of your posts, or perhaps some, or all of them for that matter. LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2454162]Slapshot man you broke my heart. I was really enjoying this post and then you had to ruin it with my pet peeve. I'm a firm believer that it's none of my beeswax who pays what. On a purely practical level I don't believe it affects what anyone else has to pay. My pet peeve is when guys know they either paid more than they had to pay and / or got less than they expected for what they paid, then rationalize with "this would have cost so much more in London / Paris / L. A. / New York."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454181]Just fucking with you slapshot. I cannot do the fake ass but I did say I cannot do the fake breast before coming. But find myself doing 4 so far. 2 really good operations and 2 bad one. The 8th suppose to come tonight for the 7 day stay. She's been a little wish washy so we will see. Met 2 nice one from tinder. One decline 120 mil 3 hrs, but the better one accepted the 120 mil. Hit her up next week unless the 8 cancels then 2 morrow. Slapshot a 7 ask me to do a 3 some for 400 mil. I said oh no that's too much. She curse me out. I need your money can I get loan LOL. I just want to add slapshot at that price you should get everything done. Just a cheapy charlie opinion[/QUOTE]I'm almost at the point where I would pay 400 k every time for the simple point & click. I'm so sick of searching, bullshitting, negotiating. This crew is a bunch of good looking girls. Too strict with their rules, but at 630 p on a night sans-Wifey, it's perfect for me. Yes, KNOWLEDGE, that comment was stupid. I don't actually think about that, but going back to my comment of the difference of $20-25 that I'm haggling over, I don't mind paying this much. Also, I can almost guarantee that next time will be cheaper, if I decide to go down that path. It's all going to average out, in the long run. Wifey at 400 k for 2 weeks + a couple threesome payments of 100-200 k, plus an over-pay in a pinch. I have spent 400 k /$100 on much much much worse or stupid things than a couple sessions with a hot Paisa, and some company for a few hours. She also had some much better pricing for tusi (I wasn't asking or interested, but the conversation came up). She said Wifey is young and stupid, not in those words. She said if I want, I can go through her for a trial run, and see how it is. I think it will be awhile before I do tusi again. Definitely not before Friday or Saturday. Bad joke, but I love fucking on that stuff, and I love joking around on it. I don't love shooting pink snot rockets for 2 days, after, though.

While the 400 k mom was over, a young hottie I had been talking with just randomly starts messaging, sending photos, begging. It was weird, because she had been firm on when she would be available, and it certainly wasn't last night. Had she done that a few hours earlier, it might have worked.

So, can we start to discuss what changes are confirmed, or expected, or unlikely, for June 1?

I use the same approach as Mr. E. Know what you are willing to pay and ask to see what she says. What she asks will tell you a lot about her. And even more when you learn whether she's willing to accept your price. If they give me something crazy, I remind them that I'm not a stupid gringo and have been visiting Colombia for 15 years. And sometimes I ask them if they want to modify their offer. It is interesting.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454004]The problem is that most guys do not want to negotiate for whatever reason. I will never understand this. They accept the first price that a chick gives as firm. Before I even ask a chick how much, I know how much I am going to pay. I simply ask her to go through the motions and know where her head is or to get a good laugh.
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Based on what I see as of today I think it's highly likely most if not all Centro casas will be open by June 1. Two of them already are, and one of them isn't even bothering with the by appointment only thing. This will be in addition to all the Laureles and Floresta apartments that never shut down. I would be surprised if bars, discos, and casinos are open by then. There are hints that restaurants might be allowed to reopen at lower than normal dine in capacity.

By June 1 Bogota might be back on total lockdown. The Mayor is in a pickle and desperate enough to be on TV every day threatening to shut down public transportation and impose a 24/7 lockdown. Today she blamed the infection spikes of the past three weeks on President Duque's order to reopen businesses.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2454196]I'm almost at the point where I would pay 400 k every time for the simple point & click. I'm so sick of searching, bullshitting, negotiating. This crew is a bunch of good looking girls. Too strict with their rules, but at 630 p on a night sans-Wifey, it's perfect for me. Yes, KNOWLEDGE, that comment was stupid. I don't actually think about that, but going back to my comment of the difference of $20-25 that I'm haggling over, I don't mind paying this much. Also, I can almost guarantee that next time will be cheaper, if I decide to go down that path. It's all going to average out, in the long run. Wifey at 400 k for 2 weeks + a couple threesome payments of 100-200 k, plus an over-pay in a pinch. I have spent 400 k /$100 on much much much worse or stupid things than a couple sessions with a hot Paisa, and some company for a few hours. She also had some much better pricing for tusi (I wasn't asking or interested, but the conversation came up). She said Wifey is young and stupid, not in those words. She said if I want, I can go through her for a trial run, and see how it is. I think it will be awhile before I do tusi again. Definitely not before Friday or Saturday. Bad joke, but I love fucking on that stuff, and I love joking around on it. I don't love shooting pink snot rockets for 2 days, after, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2454196]I'm almost at the point where I would pay 400 k every time for the simple point & click. I'm so sick of searching, bullshitting, negotiating. This crew is a bunch of good looking girls. Too strict with their rules, but at 630 p on a night sans-Wifey, it's perfect for me. Yes, KNOWLEDGE, that comment was stupid. I don't actually think about that, but going back to my comment of the difference of $20-25 that I'm haggling over, I don't mind paying this much. Also, I can almost guarantee that next time will be cheaper, if I decide to go down that path. It's all going to average out, in the long run. Wifey at 400 k for 2 weeks + a couple threesome payments of 100-200 k, plus an over-pay in a pinch. I have spent 400 k /$100 on much much much worse or stupid things than a couple sessions with a hot Paisa, and some company for a few hours. She also had some much better pricing for tusi (I wasn't asking or interested, but the conversation came up). She said Wifey is young and stupid, not in those words. She said if I want, I can go through her for a trial run, and see how it is. I think it will be awhile before I do tusi again. Definitely not before Friday or Saturday. Bad joke, but I love fucking on that stuff, and I love joking around on it. I don't love shooting pink snot rockets for 2 days, after, though.

While the 400 k mom was over, a young hottie I had been talking with just randomly starts messaging, sending photos, begging. It was weird, because she had been firm on when she would be available, and it certainly wasn't last night. Had she done that a few hours earlier, it might have worked.

So, can we start to discuss what changes are confirmed, or expected, or unlikely, for June 1?[/QUOTE]Could you please explain what pink snot rockets are?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2454173]I don't understand it either. A year ago he was arguing with me when I said the place you're most likely to get robbed by a chica is in your apartment.

Personally I'm much less worried about girls I repeat with. I know their behavior. I know what's normal for them. I know whether they're comfortable or nervous. If a repeat girl shows up, intent on robbing me, it will be obvious something isn't right.[/QUOTE]Robberies continue-.

First off, let me say, I was not robbed, or close to being robbed, but I found out that I was being baited to be robbed. Another BM was in Medellin with me in January and I left him there and I wanted to keep an eye on him and help him while he was in Medellin, especially in the park. Since all of you older guys and guy who can not be robbed think that you can not be robbed, I was just informing other BMs of how the robberies occur.

Many times the other BM would send me pics of the girls from the park while I was in the USA and I would tell him, yes or no if the girl is safe to go with or not. I spend countless hours in the park, therefor I know most of the girls in the park. It was only recognized by myself when it was brought to my attention that one day while I was in the park, this certain girl was extremely mad that other girls would not allow her to rob me, while I was extremely drunk.

I did some research on the girl and that's when the light bulb immediately went off, I remembered watching this girl and her sister stab another Vennie in the park and I actually paid for the surgery because Doctors were going to let her die due to the fact she was a Vennie and had no money. My ears stood up on my head when I realized who she was because I had been extremely friendly with girls from the park. I had let my guard down for nearly a year, because I was in the park to Bang girls, not expecting to be robbed by girls who I thought I was helping. Lesson learned, either bang them one time and never again or be extremely selective about who you date from the park.

After I did my own investigation, cause I'm a street dude and I wanted to know what was this girl's issue with me and why did she want to rob me, I quickly found out some very disturbing information. I found her on facebook and I quickly noticed that she had over 300 photos with girls from the park. First off, she is not that good looking, but what I do know for a fact is that this chic is dangerous and can use a knife, I saw this first hand with my own eyes. So you better know that I have become extremely aware of my surroundings while anywhere in Medellin from this point on into the future.

Being a street dude, I know for a fact, 300 girls didn't want to take pics with this chic, they did it because they were afraid of her. Personally, I have never seen the girl get a date in the 2 years that I have been traveling to Medellin but everyday she arrives at the park around 3 pm and all of the Vennies take notice and give her space and respect.

Back to how do I know what she was doing as far as setting up the robberies? My friend who was in Medellin back in January, would send me pics of girls and I would be amazed, because every day he would show me girls from the park who would never speak to me, but they were extremely friendly with him. Take this in with a bit of intuition, me and this monger look alike, and I mean extremely alike to the point that I told many people in the park that we were First cousins, because not only did we look alike, he spoke Spanish very well and that threw many in the parque off and it made it easy for him to fit in.

Shortly after I left, and girl after girl would ask him for dates, a gang of Vennie guys attempted to rob him on more than 3 occasions. Can you explain this? They have never attempted to rob me, other than take advantage of me while I was drunk, but they actually drew knives out at this BM and tried to take his cell phone on several occasions. This is why I provided the information about how the robberies occur.

These girls are not dumb, they are well organized and the entire group in the park are under the tutelage of this one girl. So in the future if you decide to date girls from the park, never lose sight of the fact that many of these girls see gringos as get rich quick client. My solution for this chic is to keep my distance and believe it or not, this crazy chic has approached me on more than 5 times this trip and begged me for a date and I flat out told her, if she knew what was best for her that she would stay as far away from me as possible, because I have nothing for her, no dates, no money, no conversation. Just a mutual respect as a person, but she will never receive any dates from me. I will never date any of her friends that I see in photos with her, because after being here for this long, I know who the robbers are, how the robberies occur and who are behind the robberies, but hey, I am just a BM with stories that are hard to believe! Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2454198]I use the same approach as Mr. E. Know what you are willing to pay and ask to see what she says. What she asks will tell you a lot about her. And even more when you learn whether she's willing to accept your price. If they give me something crazy, I remind them that I'm not a stupid gringo and have been visiting Colombia for 15 years. And sometimes I ask them if they want to modify their offer. It is interesting.[/QUOTE]I use a simpler approach. I ask their price. If it's high I tell them "Siempre pago" whatever price I want to pay. If they accept, fine. If not, I thank them for their time and tell them maybe another day.

The process takes about a minute, nobody gets their feelings hurt and no time is wasted trying to save 20 k.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454205]Could you please explain what pink snot rockets are?[/QUOTE]Basically the same thing as the white snot rockets from the 1980's.

When you snort coke, some is absorbed through the mucus membranes. The rest tends to build up until you blow your nose. You end up with white snot rockets.

Same thing with tussi, except it's pink.

If you're trying to save money, you could probably dry it out, grind it up and reuse it.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2454221]Robberies continue-.

These girls are not dumb, they are well organized and the entire group in the park are under the tutelage of this one girl. So in the future if you decide to date girls from the park, never lose sight of the fact that many of these girls see gringos as get rich quick client. My solution for this chic is to keep my distance and believe it or not, this crazy chic has approached me on more than 5 times this trip and begged me for a date and I flat out told her, if she knew what was best for her that she would stay as far away from me as possible, because I have nothing for her, no dates, no money, no conversation. Just a mutual respect as a person, but she will never receive any dates from me. I will never date any of her friends that I see in photos with her, because after being here for this long, I know who the robbers are, how the robberies occur and who are behind the robberies, but hey, I am just a BM with stories that are hard to believe! Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Before all the girls at the Parque loved you but now you say many will not go with you but will with your friend which is odd to say the least. You never get robbed, all the girls stay longer, you pay the cheapest prices, you walk on water, etc etc and so on. You show several pictures too. Finally you have a chance to actually help guys since you know everything. Why do you not post a picture of this girl of infamy? I was only in Medellin for a month last year doing the Parque scene only. I am curious if I had seen or even met her. Backup your story with a picture to save a newbie out there. And yes Detective you do have a picture since you researched her and found her Facebook.

I guess the point of all of that is robberies happen and they are more likely if you are very drunk? I feel like I just spent a week binge watching The Wire. Like I wrote before, it's helpful to be reminded about this risk so we don't get complacent. Thank you for taking the time to write this.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2454221]Robberies continue-.

First off, let me say, I was not robbed, or close to being robbed, but I found out that I was being baited to be robbed. Another BM was in Medellin with me in January and I left him there and I wanted to keep an eye on him and help him while he was in Medellin, especially in the park. Since all of you older guys and guy who can not be robbed think that you can not be robbed, I was just informing other BMs of how the robberies occur.

Many times the other BM would send me pics of the girls from the park while I was in the USA and I would tell him, yes or no if the girl is safe to go with or not. I spend countless hours in the park, therefor I know most of the girls in the park. It was only recognized by myself when it was brought to my attention that one day while I was in the park, this certain girl was extremely mad that other girls would not allow her to rob me, while I was extremely drunk.

I did some research on the girl and that's when the light bulb immediately went off, I remembered watching this girl and her sister stab another Vennie in the park and I actually paid for the surgery because Doctors were going to let her die due to the fact she was a Vennie and had no money. My ears stood up on my head when I realized who she was because I had been extremely friendly with girls from the park. I had let my guard down for nearly a year, because I was in the park to Bang girls, not expecting to be robbed by girls who I thought I was helping. Lesson learned, either bang them one time and never again or be extremely selective about who you date from the park..[/QUOTE]

A few days ago I was chatting with the girl I call the Titty Beast. I'd agreed to buy her a reasonably inexpensive vibrator. Sorry Surfer500, I'm not buying her the official NORAD model.

I told her she needed to get a titty pic from the sex shop clerk, but she was having it delivered. Instead she sent a pic of her and a friend. Then she started talking about wanting to use the toy on a friend, and sending me the video. Who am I to complain?

Then things escalated. She wanted to add in another amiga, as the first pic shows. Unfortunately, they couldn't convince her, so it was just the 2 of them. She takes her new toy to the friend's house and they start getting busy. She sends 2 short videos before things go wrong.

Just at the point where Titty Beast is about to go down on her friend, there's an uproar. Apparently, one of the girl's cousins was watching and got caught jerking off by the friend's mom. Titty Beast got kicked out.

Now she's looking for a place with some privacy. Guess the full length video will have to wait.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2454221]Robberies continue-.

These girls are not dumb, they are well organized and the entire group in the park are under the tutelage of this one girl. So in the future if you decide to date girls from the park, never lose sight of the fact that many of these girls see gringos as get rich quick client. My solution for this chic is to keep my distance and believe it or not, this crazy chic has approached me on more than 5 times this trip and begged me for a date and I flat out told her, if she knew what was best for her that she would stay as far away from me as possible, because I have nothing for her, no dates, no money, no conversation. Just a mutual respect as a person, but she will never receive any dates from me. I will never date any of her friends that I see in photos with her, because after being here for this long, I know who the robbers are, how the robberies occur and who are behind the robberies, but hey, I am just a BM with stories that are hard to believe! Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Please DM me photos so I know to stay away.

There was a point I was hesitant she would come. For 3 days she scheduled and rescheduled. Last night she said couldn't make it, tomorrow is better. I was not having wait another day. I have pride and don't take someone wasting my time. I do not do well with that. I told her its tonight not to tomorrow and I am serious. I would have to meet you another time. She first text me with explanation and I said no to tomorrow. She videochat me from her home that looks nice and I said no again. She text me saying she will try to come tonight. Later ask for my address and say she on the way. She then text me and said taxi is 20 mil. When she arrived I went down to pay. But she got out the car with a nice looking white suitcase. And taxi took off. She did not ask for no money. I have only paid taxi twice with her. She must be dating the driver cause she lives like 20 minutes away. Any how. I am very happy to see her. I been advertising this contract for 2 weeks. The 200 mil 30 days and the revised 7 day 300 mil. She look so pretty and always bubbly, humble, and ready for affection. Her outfit was showing lots of cleavage. She had thongs on. We had wine and she ask me to make a chorros. I guess I do a good job. We salud and I waited for her to finished. She has a ridiculously soft body. I love her booty. Perfect size and soft. Sometimes you see the 30 ish effect and other times it's just perfect. I lift her dress up and pulled the thongs off. And start doggy. Her face is so pretty and the voice makes her sexier. After she got on top for some time to ride we then elected to head upstairs. She unpacked and pulled out like 6 vibrators. 4 vibrators the batteries was dead so today I guess that's one of my chores. She had clothes that was more than for 7 days and for going out. But it was nice to see that she had good taste along with quality stuff. She is definitely not a hood chick. Nice clothes, top phone, manicure, pedicure, and have shown no desperation for money. I keep asking myself what's her motive with me. Anyway she finishes up and we go back to making love LOL. I nut and we go to sleep. She cuddles up to be. Later like 5 am, I try to get some more but she says no. About 8 am, I rub the pussy with some saliva and she's ready to go again and I nut 2nd round. Here is the big question. She says I can bring other girls to fuck. She would watch. But she's in early 30's with a teenage daughter. Would she be ok with someone 18 to 22. Guys who been in 3 somes with age separation chime in. Actually anyone chime in.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454205]Could you please explain what pink snot rockets are?[/QUOTE]Please don't.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454380]There was a point I was hesitant she would come. For 3 days she scheduled and rescheduled. Last night she said couldn't make it, tomorrow is better. I was not having wait another day. I have pride and don't take someone wasting my time. I do not do well with that. I told her its tonight not to tomorrow and I am serious. I would have to meet you another time. She first text me with explanation and I said no to tomorrow. She videochat me from her home that looks nice and I said no again. She text me saying she will try to come tonight. Later ask for my address and say she on the way. She then text me and said taxi is 20 mil. When she arrived I went down to pay. But she got out the car with a nice looking white suitcase. And taxi took off. She did not ask for no money. I have only paid taxi twice with her. She must be dating the driver cause she lives like 20 minutes away. Any how. I am very happy to see her. I been advertising this contract for 2 weeks. The 200 mil 30 days and the revised 7 day 300 mil. She look so pretty and always bubbly, humble, and ready for affection. Her outfit was showing lots of cleavage. She had thongs on. We had wine and she ask me to make a chorros. I guess I do a good job. We salud and I waited for her to finished. She has a ridiculously soft body. I love her booty. Perfect size and soft. Sometimes you see the 30 ish effect and other times it's just perfect. I lift her dress up and pulled the thongs off. And start doggy. Her face is so pretty and the voice makes her sexier. After she got on top for some time to ride we then elected to head upstairs. She unpacked and pulled out like 6 vibrators. 4 vibrators the batteries was dead so today I guess that's one of my chores. She had clothes that was more than for 7 days and for going out. But it was nice to see that she had good taste along with quality stuff. She is definitely not a hood chick. Nice clothes, top phone, manicure, pedicure, and have shown no desperation for money. I keep asking myself what's her motive with me. Anyway she finishes up and we go back to making love LOL. I nut and we go to sleep. She cuddles up to be.[/QUOTE]Unless you make it creepy, she probably won't have a problem with the age. Don't ask for pics of her daughter, don't ask if a girl reminds her of her daughter. Don't even mention the daughter. Forget the daughter exists. For the purpose of the next 7 days, she has no daughter. Am I making it clear?

If she has a problem it will be with something else. If she's going to watch, you're going to have to give her some attention. Trust me on this one. If you forget she exists while you're fucking another girl, the next day is going to suck. Give her a vibrator, tell her you want to watch her while she's watching you. Take some breaks to make out with her. Make lots of eye contact. Tell her how much you enjoy watching her. And then fuck her like it's the first time.

She's going to see it as either as you're taking something away from her, or you're giving something to her. You want her to know that bringing in another girl means she gets something special. By the third girl, she'll be joining in.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454380]There was a point I was hesitant she would come. For 3 days she scheduled and rescheduled. Last night she said couldn't make it, tomorrow is better. I was not having wait another day. I have pride and don't take someone wasting my time. I do not do well with that. I told her its tonight not to tomorrow and I am serious. I would have to meet you another time. She first text me with explanation and I said no to tomorrow. She videochat me from her home that looks nice and I said no again. She text me saying she will try to come tonight. Later ask for my address and say she on the way. She then text me and said taxi is 20 mil. When she arrived I went down to pay. But she got out the car with a nice looking white suitcase. And taxi took off. She did not ask for no money. I have only paid taxi twice with her. She must be dating the driver cause she lives like 20 minutes away. Any how. I am very happy to see her. I been advertising this contract for 2 weeks. The 200 mil 30 days and the revised 7 day 300 mil. She look so pretty and always bubbly, humble, and ready for affection. Her outfit was showing lots of cleavage. She had thongs on. We had wine and she ask me to make a chorros. I guess I do a good job. We salud and I waited for her to finished. She has a ridiculously soft body. I love her booty. Perfect size and soft. Sometimes you see the 30 ish effect and other times it's just perfect. I lift her dress up and pulled the thongs off. And start doggy. Her face is so pretty and the voice makes her sexier. After she got on top for some time to ride we then elected to head upstairs. She unpacked and pulled out like 6 vibrators. 4 vibrators the batteries was dead so today I guess that's one of my chores.[/QUOTE]So what's up with all the vibrators, six of them, really.

Where do all those vibrators go, there's only so many orifices they could fit in, unless you include the nostrils, and God forbid the cost of batteries for all of them, especially when utilizing the higher end lithium batteries. I'm assuming you had something in your contract regarding this, if not, it might get expensive to purchase batteries for all of them, and you might have to negotiate either a "limited orifice or frequency use clause" moving forward, like only two at a time for no more than 15 minutes per orifice within a specified time frame.

Sounds like it may get complicated, perhaps just limit her to her favorite two, or your favorites. I wish I could give you more advice on this, and there are other members you could reach out to with lots of experience. I hope you don't have a problem with your 8 over batteries for the vibrators resulting in an ugly break-up we will read about.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2454221]Robberies continue-.

First off, let me say, I was not robbed, or close to being robbed, but I found out that I was being baited to be robbed. Another BM was in Medellin with me in January and I left him there and I wanted to keep an eye on him and help him while he was in Medellin, especially in the park. Since all of you older guys and guy who can not be robbed think that you can not be robbed, I was just informing other BMs of how the robberies occur.

Many times the other BM would send me pics of the girls from the park while I was in the USA and I would tell him, yes or no if the girl is safe to go with or not. I spend countless hours in the park, therefor I know most of the girls in the park. It was only recognized by myself when it was brought to my attention that one day while I was in the park, this certain girl was extremely mad that other girls would not allow her to rob me, while I was extremely drunk.

I did some research on the girl and that's when the light bulb immediately went off, I remembered watching this girl and her sister stab another Vennie in the park and I actually paid for the surgery because Doctors were going to let her die due to the fact she was a Vennie and had no money. My ears stood up on my head when I realized who she was because I had been extremely friendly with girls from the park. I had let my guard down for nearly a year, because I was in the park to Bang girls, not expecting to be robbed by girls who I thought I was helping. Lesson learned, either bang them one time and never again or be extremely selective about who you date from the park..[/QUOTE]PN you need to post a photo of this skank so we can be on guard.

Just saying.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454133]There was a post about an increase in robberies in Parque Botero which makes sense given the Pandemic, and supposedly there is a "ringleader" of girls orchestrating this with other girls.

Seems a bit peculiar, not the robberies, but girls reporting to someone else and I'm assuming having to share in the spoils, versus girls independently stealing and keeping everything for themselves.

And from what I have heard from others on the ground in the last few weeks, it's not like it was before the Pandemic at ground zero.

Way less clients, let alone foreigners available for the girls working the Botero area.

Can anyone else confirm what has been reported relative to a "ringleader' and her girls.[/QUOTE]Ring leaders are common, and Medellin is not an exemption. They have many functions, e.g. Help to turn the stolen items into cash quickly, bribe cops etc.

I didn't need advise on batteries. I just needed advise on age differences with 3 somes. She is early 30's. Would she be okay with an 18 - 22 year old. That is the question. I think you miss the boat on this surfer. But I went out and bought 2 packs of triple a batteries. 6 mil. So when I got back, we got the one that needed triple a batteries to work. It's a small size vibrator. She has one you put inside the pussy and stimulate clit as well. I had double a batteries, so got that to work. She has a glass vibrator, and the new one you put the pussy and it vibrates. I am hoping to videotape her enjoying herself. She cooked for me today. And spent lots of time making tic toc video. I know very little Spanish but we are managing. She's trying to get me to wash the dishes LOL

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454390]So what's up with all the vibrators, six of them, really.

Where do all those vibrators go, there's only so many orifices they could fit in, unless you include the nostrils, and God forbid the cost of batteries for all of them, especially when utilizing the higher end lithium batteries. I'm assuming you had something in your contract regarding this, if not, it might get expensive to purchase batteries for all of them, and you might have to negotiate either a "limited orifice or frequency use clause" moving forward, like only two at a time for no more than 15 minutes per orifice within a specified time frame.

Sounds like it may get complicated, perhaps just limit her to her favorite two, or your favorites. I wish I could give you more advice on this, and there are other members you could reach out to with lots of experience. I hope you don't have a problem with your 8 over batteries for the vibrators resulting in an ugly break-up we will read about.[/QUOTE].

I had no intention of bringing up the daughter though. Like the advise on giving her lots of attention.

They do get jealous and feel left out. I have experienced it before.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2454389]Unless you make it creepy, she probably won't have a problem with the age. Don't ask for pics of her daughter, don't ask if a girl reminds her of her daughter. Don't even mention the daughter. Forget the daughter exists. For the purpose of the next 7 days, she has no daughter. Am I making it clear?

If she has a problem it will be with something else. If she's going to watch, you're going to have to give her some attention. Trust me on this one. If you forget she exists while you're fucking another girl, the next day is going to suck. Give her a vibrator, tell her you want to watch her while she's watching you. Take some breaks to make out with her. Make lots of eye contact. Tell her how much you enjoy watching her. And then fuck her like it's the first time.

She's going to see it as either as you're taking something away from her, or you're giving something to her. You want her to know that bringing in another girl means she gets something special. By the third girl, she'll be joining in.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2454328]Before all the girls at the Parque loved you but now you say many will not go with you but will with your friend which is odd to say the least. You never get robbed, all the girls stay longer, you pay the cheapest prices, you walk on water, etc etc and so on. You show several pictures too. Finally you have a chance to actually help guys since you know everything. Why do you not post a picture of this girl of infamy? I was only in Medellin for a month last year doing the Parque scene only. I am curious if I had seen or even met her. Backup your story with a picture to save a newbie out there. And yes Detective you do have a picture since you researched her and found her Facebook.[/QUOTE]I have a job, and it pays well. I am going to put her pic up, not because you demanded it, because it is something that mongers need to be aware of when visiting the park. You read my entire post wrong. Currently there is closed border and girls are starving, I mean looking emaciated, these girls are desperate and willing to pull off anything. The girls do not hate me and they will all bang me if I gave them a date, but I currently will not give them a date since I have broken there little scheme, but don't fear, I will post her pic, its not like you are here in Medellin and can visit the park. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2454394]PN you need to post a photo of this skank so we can be on guard.

Just saying.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]What else that needs to be known is whether this is a Venezuelan, which I suspect is the case given that the majority of the girls working the Park are Venezuelans. I don't see a Colombian reporting to a Venezuelan, so if there is no photo available, at least knowing this information would be helpful.

Her facebook name is [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] and do not under estimate her, her crew or her sister, I watched her stabbed another Vennie with my own eyes, Pollo Negro is out.

Breaking news! The Minister of Transportation announced this evening during the President's nightly briefing that international flights will resume September 1. You heard it here first.

Tell her you know a guy who will bang her daughter when she has 18 years. And he'll even buy her some food in between banging! This will endear you!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454435]I had no intention of bringing up the daughter though. Like the advise on giving her lots of attention.

They do get jealous and feel left out. I have experienced it before.

.[/QUOTE]

Interesting.

[URL]https://www.semana.com/semana-tv/semana-noticias/articulo/coronavirus-en-colombia-aislamiento-obligatorio-va-hasta-el-1-de-julio/674530[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454479]You wash those dishes and I guarantee that next thing is she will be using all 7 of those vibrators ON YOU![/QUOTE]Highly unlikely as I doubt he would purchase batteries for all of them.

Various news outlets are reporting that international flight will resume 9/1.

https://twitter.com/infopresidencia/status/1266200404746031106?s=20

[QUOTE=Presidencia Colombia 🇨🇴 @infopresidencia]
A partir del 1 de septiembre se reactivan el transporte internacional de pasajeros y la venta de pasajes, anunci este jueves la Ministra de Transporte,
@orozco_angela, en el espacio informativo #PrevencinyAccin[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2454499]Various news outlets are reporting that international flight will resume 9/1.

https://twitter.com/infopresidencia/status/1266200404746031106?s=20[/QUOTE]Now we just need to know about how long and if there will be quarantines.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2454499]Various news outlets are reporting that international flight will resume 9/1.

https://twitter.com/infopresidencia/status/1266200404746031106?s=20[/QUOTE]Too bad there won't be any companies left to service the route!

Current plans call for quarantines to end September 1. That was the basis for designating that date to resume international travel. Everything is of course subject to change according to the situation a month or two from now.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2454506]Now we just need to know about how long and if there will be quarantines.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2454565]Current plans call for quarantines to end September 1. That was the basis for designating that date to resume international travel. Everything is of course subject to change according to the situation a month or two from now.[/QUOTE]According to the Presidents message on Thursday night he laid out 43 exemptions along with a decree that local municipalities could opt out or modify as they see fit.

So as an example, Bello which is not part of Medellin has opted out of Pico and Cedula, meaning everything is wide open to them, at least what is open.

Another interesting exemption is under # 35 regarding exercise which states that adults can exercise two hours a day. No restriction on the hours like previously between the hours of 2 and 3 PM.

So basically that means go outside and if you get stopped, your on a walk to exercise!

So this is huge, and granted you might not be able to get into an EXITO except on your Pico and Cedula days or ride the Metro, nothing will preclude you from getting in a cab and hitting a Casa or El Centro.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2454499]Various news outlets are reporting that international flight will resume 9/1.

https://twitter.com/infopresidencia/status/1266200404746031106?s=20[/QUOTE]On May 28 as reported by the Transport Minister, International flights would be allowed to and from Colombia, however what wasn't explained was whether, when, how or which of the origin or destination countries actually would allow such flights, or which airlines would participate, and what the entry requirements might be.

As others have been reporting, airlines have been selling tickets and cancelling, and know I am assuming the airlines will start selling tickets again. Most Countries in the world are requiring testing and a two week home quarantine for entry into their Countries.

Additionally, I can easily see the USA being on a no fly list no different than the USA putting other Countries in the world on a no fly list.

My advice is to wait, they have set a date three months in the future, and things will change and more information regarding entry requirements will be known.

She the 8th doesn't seem poor or desperate for cash so it might be possible daughter might not be involve in the lifestyle.

I do not know. Hypothetically speaking.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2454486]Tell her you know a guy who will bang her daughter when she has 18 years. And he'll even buy her some food in between banging! This will endear you![/QUOTE].

There might be a fare advantage if you book something now, or maybe not. As always it's best to confirm fare rules. As you stated, many things can change between now and September 1. Any guess is valid. The airlines have never stopped selling tickets. Two days ago Spirit pushed the start of scheduled service on its website from July 5 to September 1. Presumably that move was based on advance notification from the Transportation Ministry. I had been checking the airline sites regularly. I suspected last night's announcement was coming when I saw the changes Spirit and American made to their schedules. I use those web sites and the government's for information and I use websites like this one and the "various news outlets" for entertainment. So far since March it's worked well.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454600]On May 28 as reported by the Transport Minister, International flights would be allowed to and from Colombia, however what wasn't explained was whether, when, how or which of the origin or destination countries actually would allow such flights, or which airlines would participate, and what the entry requirements might be.

As others have been reporting, airlines have been selling tickets and cancelling, and know I am assuming the airlines will start selling tickets again. Most Countries in the world are requiring testing and a two week home quarantine for entry into their Countries.

Additionally, I can easily see the USA being on a no fly list no different than the USA putting other Countries in the world on a no fly list.

My advice is to wait, they have set a date three months in the future, and things will change and more information regarding entry requirements will be known.[/QUOTE]

I learned by giving a girl a body oil massage, she will freak on you like she has never down before. I learn from washing a few dishes you can get a 30 day or 7 day agreement for 300 mil or less. So make all the jokes you want. Money stays in my pocket. By the way. 8 pm I told her if she does not show up tonight. There won't be a tomorrow. She was at my house by 10:30 pm. So I wear the motherfucking pants when its necessary. LOL. I like the humor though.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2454499]Various news outlets are reporting that international flight will resume 9/1.

https://twitter.com/infopresidencia/status/1266200404746031106?s=20[/QUOTE].

OK Blakman, I will cut you some slack! Jejejeje.

A lot of these girls do try to keep their daughters out of the business. Sometimes it work and sometimes it doesn't. Do as I say, no as I do? Depends on the kid. I once knew a girl who frequented the Mansion. She came from a well-off family in Poblado. She did not need any money. She did it for her own motivation. Whether to defy her family. Or just because she liked sex. Who knows.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454638]She the 8th doesn't seem poor or desperate for cash so it might be possible daughter might not be involve in the lifestyle.

I do not know. Hypothetically speaking.

.[/QUOTE]

I guess it depends on how often you go to Medellin. For me, there is little downside. I already have (and have had) tickets to MDE for September, October, November, December, and December / January. If something gets canceled, then I just re-book for my next slot. Which would be February. If, on the other hand, you do not travel to MDE much or your dates are not flexible, then you might want to wait until it gets closer.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454600]On May 28 as reported by the Transport Minister, International flights would be allowed to and from Colombia, however what wasn't explained was whether, when, how or which of the origin or destination countries actually would allow such flights, or which airlines would participate, and what the entry requirements might be.

As others have been reporting, airlines have been selling tickets and cancelling, and know I am assuming the airlines will start selling tickets again. Most Countries in the world are requiring testing and a two week home quarantine for entry into their Countries.

Additionally, I can easily see the USA being on a no fly list no different than the USA putting other Countries in the world on a no fly list.

My advice is to wait, they have set a date three months in the future, and things will change and more information regarding entry requirements will be known.[/QUOTE]

You are spot on, correct on all counts. In fact, that has been the situation for nearly three weeks now. I won't be surprised to see the return of uber not long after June 1. Bars and restaurants will be the final frontier it appears. I miss them but I can live without them. Rappi and uber eats are good enough. I am thinking of swinging by chicas puntocom Sunday for a look see. I might head to Plaza Botero for exercise later and see if I can spot Medellin Mata Hari.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454596]According to the Presidents message on Thursday night he laid out 43 exemptions along with a decree that local municipalities could opt out or modify as they see fit.

So as an example, Bello which is not part of Medellin has opted out of Pico and Cedula, meaning everything is wide open to them, at least what is open.

Another interesting exemption is under # 35 regarding exercise which states that adults can exercise two hours a day. No restriction on the hours like previously between the hours of 2 and 3 PM.

So basically that means go outside and if you get stopped, your on a walk to exercise!

So this is huge, and granted you might not be able to get into an EXITO except on your Pico and Cedula days or ride the Metro, nothing will preclude you from getting in a cab and hitting a Casa or El Centro.[/QUOTE]

Add another Centro casa to the list. Aiffe is back.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2454653]I guess it depends on how often you go to Medellin. For me, there is little downside. I already have (and have had) tickets to MDE for September, October, November, December, and December / January. If something gets canceled, then I just re-book for my next slot. Which would be February. If, on the other hand, you do not travel to MDE much or your dates are not flexible, then you might want to wait until it gets closer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2453510]
[URL]Http://www.chaturbate.com/i_am_melisa[/URL]

I've met her and talked with her socially. Nice girl who is rumored to be worth a roll. [/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this. She is beautiful and deserves more success on there.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2454653]I guess it depends on how often you go to Medellin. For me, there is little downside. I already have (and have had) tickets to MDE for September, October, November, December, and December / January. If something gets canceled, then I just re-book for my next slot. Which would be February. If, on the other hand, you do not travel to MDE much or your dates are not flexible, then you might want to wait until it gets closer.[/QUOTE]I understand that booking and changing flights is not an issue, what the issue is though, is what the entry requirements will be, testing and quarantine for 14 days upon arrival? This requirement will not open the Country back up to tourism.

Well day 3, everything is going smooth like really good. I was concerned about her trying to get me to buy her personal stuff that would come out to alot but so far 2 packs of battery and shampoo 12 mil. After fucking her in the morning few times. She cooks lunch and dinner. And is dress really nice. I didn't think nothing of it cause she been changing clothes constantly do tic toc videos. Anyways out of the blue she tells me she has to go back home to pay her rent will be back tonight or tomorrow. Then she says she has no money can I give her money. She really took me by surprise but instantly I had a feel of what's going down. Things was going well and the companionship became better than the sex. Anyways I decided to give her 150 mil of the 300 mil. Then I said fuck that put 100 mil on the table. She asked for the 300 mil and I said no that's next week. Then she said papi how about 200 mil. I said no. Then added I told the potero I pay you next week. And I stuck with that though she begged. I wasnt worried about her coming back cause she was leaving her stuff. I actually didn't mind her leaving because there was a new prospect I wanted. It was just that she tried to be clever and disregard for my time. 90% says she's heading to another customer. Anyway things get awkward a little bit cause she demands the 20 mil taxi money I did not pay when she came two days ago. I thought I had avoided that request. We waited til taxi comes and she leaves.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454688]I understand that booking and changing flights is not an issue, what the issue is though, is what the entry requirements will be, testing and quarantine for 14 days upon arrival? This requirement will not open the Country back up to tourism.[/QUOTE]There are people who are willing to accept any entry requirements just to get back in. If they ban the US but open to Canada, I will buy a ticket to Canada and fly to Medellin in a heart beat.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2454652]OK Blakman, I will cut you some slack! Jejejeje.

A lot of these girls do try to keep their daughters out of the business. Sometimes it work and sometimes it doesn't. Do as I say, no as I do? Depends on the kid. I once knew a girl who frequented the Mansion. She came from a well-off family in Poblado. She did not need any money. She did it for her own motivation. Whether to defy her family. Or just because she liked sex. Who knows.[/QUOTE]This makes no sense. If she doesn't need the money, why not just go to a better club in Lleras? The bar in the mansion is no comparison to octava, donde chepe, midnight. Etc, in fact the mansion's decor, facility, and location is infinitely worse. The male demographics there is not very physically appealing, to put it lightly. Why would a rich local girl go to the mansion to look for sex? If she look good enough to get picked in the mansion, she can easily find good looking, locals in octava.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454641]I learned by giving a girl a body oil massage, she will freak on you like she has never down before. I learn from washing a few dishes you can get a 30 day or 7 day agreement for 300 mil or less. So make all the jokes you want. Money stays in my pocket. By the way. 8 pm I told her if she does not show up tonight. There won't be a tomorrow. She was at my house by 10:30 pm. So I wear the motherfucking pants when its necessary. LOL. I like the humor though..[/QUOTE]Good news, as it sounded like you where going to have to shell out a fortune buying batteries for all those vibrators your 8 brought with her. That had to of been a sigh of relief for you!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454707]Well day 3, everything is going smooth like really good. I was concerned about her trying to get me to buy her personal stuff that would come out to alot but so far 2 packs of battery and shampoo 12 mil. After fucking her in the morning few times. She cooks lunch and dinner. And is dress really nice. I didn't think nothing of it cause she been changing clothes constantly do tic toc videos. Anyways out of the blue she tells me she has to go back home to pay her rent will be back tonight or tomorrow. Then she says she has no money can I give her money. She really took me by surprise but instantly I had a feel of what's going down. Things was going well and the companionship became better than the sex. Anyways I decided to give her 150 mil of the 300 mil. Then I said fuck that put 100 mil on the table. She asked for the 300 mil and I said no that's next week. Then she said papi how about 200 mil. I said no. Then added I told the potero I pay you next week. And I stuck with that though she begged. I wasnt worried about her coming back cause she was leaving her stuff. I actually didn't mind her leaving because there was a new prospect I wanted. It was just that she tried to be clever and disregard for my time. 90% says she's heading to another customer. Anyway things get awkward a little bit cause she demands the 20 mil taxi money I did not pay when she came two days ago. I thought I had avoided that request. We waited til taxi comes and she leaves.[/QUOTE]I'm curious now, send the tic toc link LOL.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2454147]I was grinding all day to find some one for last night. While in Exito Wow, I was scrolling through my WhatsApp conversations from a year ago. I saw a name of a girl that I had been with a couple times when I stayed at Energy. She was a fit-chick, single mom, good time. My next trip, I decided to test her on the payment amount. She got upset, started saying shit about street rats, ugly girls, whatever. She has an American WhatsApp number, and had a gringo ex. Well, I never saw her that trip. The next trip, she had a boyfriend. Last trip, I don't think I contacted her. So anyway, I send her a message asking if she has the new pico / cedula schedule. Random, but I didn't want to get her in trouble with a boyfriend, if she still had one. She responds that I should look on the internet; everything is on the internet. Still holding that grudge haha.

Anyway, she offers to help me. She sends me a list of maybe 8-9 girls. All good looking. All different types. The problem is, it's the extranjero ring. Anyway, she starts speaking on behalf of the girl I want: what time, how much, etc. Well, turns out, that girl isn't available. So, now it's after 6 pm. My building water is off, supposedly maybe until 630 p. I walked to Exito & worked out, so I'm hoping to get a girl, and take a shower. I make a second selection. She's available at 8 p. Perfect. I say 2 pops 2 hours. 400 k. I say that's expensive during the pandemic, no? Then I get an earful and have to explain myself: fewer gringos, no new tourists or businessmen, etc. We don't agree. Ok, great. Moving along. I concede because this chick's photos are amazing. Not your typical bikini / lingerie or dressed to the 9's. She's in jeans and a cute top, amazing 10 out of 10 smile, long dark hair, big fake tits.

My amiga not-so-amiga-amiga messages around 8:20 to check on us. Her friend has not yet arrived. Not a big deal, because I was eating dinner at 7:30 p, then showered, and was just chillin. She arrives and I'm happy. It wasn't but 5 mins of convo before I asked who she lives with, and her response was: my two children. Ok, not ideal, but not going to kill my mood or night. I think she had a fake culo, to go with her fake tits, BUT, she was doing some of Blakman's favorite dancing in the jacuzzi, and was enjoying the music / drinks. Unfortunately, she wasn't into DFK, which took away from the passion, a bit. I had her from behind in the jacuzzi, then sitting up on the corner, until she complained about her head banging off the wall, then from behind, again. Big round ass, skinny-thick build that can take a pounding, and she was into it. A few too many comments about being big, but who knows, she was dousing herself with handfuls of baby oil to help.

We have a nice long conversation about several topics. She's not into girls, but she'll come back to party with Wifey and I (Wifey was at home, for this, just in case that wasn't clear). She checks the clock, once we're downstairs, and starts putting her shoes on. I say, whoa whoa whoa. She notes the time, I note the pop (s). We head back upstairs to the guest bedroom. We had a good sweat, for round two. Eventually, I just gave up and we used the massage oil to manual completion (I had to take over). Oh, also, no BBBJ was a downer, but most of these high-priced FB / WA crew girls are the ones with all the rules.

All-in-all, of course, for many, not worth 400 k. For me, if I had that night in LV / LA for $100, I'd be jerking off just thinking about it, right now. It was a good experience and I think I will keep in touch with her for other girls, well, keep in touch with both of them, for times when I'm in a pinch and looking for something I can be confident about. Looking at this list, again, it's a real high-end list. I would think my amiga-non-amiga would be ok if I asked her if I could share her contact info. It's all about money for these yummy mummies. Thus, feel free to PM, if interested, and I'll check with her.[/QUOTE]Can you explain the extrano list?

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2454755]Can you explain the extrano list?[/QUOTE]Extranjero girls. They're girls who market themselves to extranjeros, foreigners. So they want to charge a higher rate for less time.

Well now you shouldn't just be curious but also very busy finding her lmao.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2454752]I'm curious now, send the tic toc link LOL.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454778]Well now you shouldn't just be curious but also very busy finding her lmao.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like a challenge! There can't be many Medellin tiktokers in their 30's.

It is very easy to get a flight into Colombia that does not originate in the US. China and Europe were restricted back in March while there were still flights. Time will tell.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454725]There are people who are willing to accept any entry requirements just to get back in. If they ban the US but open to Canada, I will buy a ticket to Canada and fly to Medellin in a heart beat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454725]There are people who are willing to accept any entry requirements just to get back in. If they ban the US but open to Canada, I will buy a ticket to Canada and fly to Medellin in a heart beat.[/QUOTE]If the USA is initially banned entry into Colombia when they open up, an American Passport will raise a red flag regardless of the Country the passenger is coming from. So as an example, if the entry requirements prohibit anyone who has been in the USA in the last 30 days, then I guess you could go to Canada for a month. But more importantly, lets say Colombia is opened to all, but with a testing requirement and a 14 day quarantine. This basically will be a no go for tourism as most tourists / mongers aren't going to have that amount of time.

If Colombia were to allow entry just based on being tested negative, then the flood gates will be opened, and the planes will be full of mongers. However Colombia currently, with the extension of what I would call a very loose "lock-down" until July, has surpassed all other Countries on the planet for lockdown duration length. I suspect the entry requirements when they open up, of which they have three months to figure out will be strict, not like some of the European Countries that are opening up for the Summer.

Unfortunately, all we can do is wait and see what they come up with, a lot will be learnt in the next couple of months based on what happens in other Countries.

I'm curious if anybody has had any experience at the swingers clubs in Medellin?

Search the forum. There are reports.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2454833]I'm curious if anybody has had any experience at the swingers clubs in Medellin?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2454833]I'm curious if anybody has had any experience at the swingers clubs in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Yep almost 4 years ago my ATF paisa wanted to experience it, she just turned 19 and wanted to experience something new and different and exciting, she is very good looking and is now one of the prime Facebook girls, yep I must have trained her right when she was just a naive beauty in the making, heheheh, anyway it was a place down in or around San Diego as I recall, actually a 5 or 6 block drive away from Fase II as I recall now, anyway paid the fee and got inside the club, very non-de-script from the outside and is located in an industrial area, maybe it was an off night, possibly a mid-week night and also the night was still early, so got inside and it was us and another 2 couples, old and unattractive both the men and women, so after about 20 minutes we left.

For what it's worth. Nothing about it has ever been really interesting to me.

The Tall Man.

Apologies in advance, I am going to briefly veer off topic somewhat. I ask the members to please pause and give a thought to Mayor Daniel Quintero and his family. Last week his 5 month old daughter underwent a partial liver transplant for which his wife was the donor. The mayor took a three day leave of absence around the 16 hour procedure. Thankfully the child is improving.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2454807]It is very easy to get a flight into Colombia that does not originate in the US. China and Europe were restricted back in March while there were still flights. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]If I had a crystal ball back in the end of February when I'm still in Medellin that tells me about this lockdown, I would have stayed. Instead of having the most miserable time of my life, I would be living in heaven right now.

Like the quote from the final scene in the 1990 movie Havana starring Robert Redford, when it became clear the Castro led revolution would end mob control of the vice industry. "next we can go to Santo Domingo". That movie was made in Santo Domingo. I happened to be staying at the Jaragua for a business trip during the filming. I still have photos of all the vintage cars the producers kept in the hotel's parking lot. I bring up Santo Domingo because it tentatively scheduled international flights to resume in July. Of course the Dominican Republic depends much more heavily on tourism than Colombia so it's understandable they would want to fast track resumption.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2454821]If the USA is initially banned entry into Colombia when they open up, an American Passport will raise a red flag regardless of the Country the passenger is coming from. So as an example, if the entry requirements prohibit anyone who has been in the USA in the last 30 days, then I guess you could go to Canada for a month. But more importantly, lets say Colombia is opened to all, but with a testing requirement and a 14 day quarantine. This basically will be a no go for tourism as most tourists / mongers aren't going to have that amount of time.

If Colombia were to allow entry just based on being tested negative, then the flood gates will be opened, and the planes will be full of mongers. However Colombia currently, with the extension of what I would call a very loose "lock-down" until July, has surpassed all other Countries on the planet for lockdown duration length. I suspect the entry requirements when they open up, of which they have three months to figure out will be strict, not like some of the European Countries that are opening up for the Summer.

Unfortunately, all we can do is wait and see what they come up with, a lot will be learnt in the next couple of months based on what happens in other Countries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2454680]Add another Centro casa to the list. Aiffe is back.[/QUOTE]Good to know. It has been raining the last couple of days so I haven't been out much, but I have cruised through Botero a few times the last couple of weeks so maybe I'll walk around next time I'm in El Centro to see what's open. Might be a good time to check out New Life when it opens since the boarders are closed.

Maybe not, but how many chicas do you know in Medellin who do things that make sense. Of course, this was about 6 years ago. The chica was not going to the bar, she was hanging out by the pool and was very popular with the gringos. The male demographics at the Mansion, at least when I used to go (been 3 years now since I stepped into the place) were varied. Young to old. She did look good and had a great body. Who knows? And keep in mind that many Colombian chicas want nothing to do with Colombianos.

I like Octava, but it's a dump.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454728]This makes no sense. If she doesn't need the money, why not just go to a better club in Lleras? The bar in the mansion is no comparison to octava, donde chepe, midnight. Etc, in fact the mansion's decor, facility, and location is infinitely worse. The male demographics there is not very physically appealing, to put it lightly. Why would a rich local girl go to the mansion to look for sex? If she look good enough to get picked in the mansion, she can easily find good looking, locals in octava.[/QUOTE]

That is an excellent point about New Life. I had not considered that, probably because New Life has been out of my rotation for years. It might be as you say worth another look now that it's unlikely the place will be bursting at the seams with frat bro groups like the last time I was in there.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2454880]Good to know. It has been raining the last couple of days so I haven't been out much, but I have cruised through Botero a few times the last couple of weeks so maybe I'll walk around next time I'm in El Centro to see what's open. Might be a good time to check out New Life when it opens since the boarders are closed.[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean. I weighed the personal pros and cons and I don't regret my decision at all. Things were slow a month or so ago and I got really tired of my own cooking and impatient with my reduced rotation of companions but that's all behind us now.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454877]If I had a crystal ball back in the end of February when I'm still in Medellin that tells me about this lockdown, I would have stayed. Instead of having the most miserable time of my life, I would be living in heaven right now.[/QUOTE]

Wifey approved a smoke show coming over, on Thursday night. I had been talking to her back and forth for a bit. She was the one that said she couldn't come over, about a week ago, then was begging and sending pics. So, we agree on 200 k for a few hours, trio. She sends a couple of sexy videos, asks to see Wifey's photos, all is good. She asks if she can come at 10 p. I said I need to work in the morning and don't want to be up until 4 a. Wifey suggested 6 p. So, naturally, we agree on 8 p. Wifey is convinced she has another cita. I had already asked that question, and she said no. She was also messaging all evening long. Well, she asks if she can come at 10 p, around 7 p. I again say no. We agree on 9 p. I was just starting to cook dinner, and still needed to shower. It worked fine, for me, but it irked Wifey, again. This chick is HOT, though.

8:35 p rolls around, the anticipation building. She asks me if she can bring her 19 yo gay brother over! He's fun, they're honest, he won't bother, but her mom said the only way she can leave is with the brother. In my mind, this "brother" is a cousin, or a friend, more often than an actual brother, in this scenario. I had this identical situation, last-minute, before a private boat trip in Cartagena. More often than not, I would imagine the "brother" is fun, and is a good person. I explained to her, 1) 100% this is not happening, 2) I don't care how nice and fun he is, I am paying for an experience, and he brings nothing of value to said experience, 3) If I wanted another person at our little fiesta, there's probably 50,000 I could think of inviting before him, 4) Absolutely not happening, again, 5) She is wrong for waiting until 25 mins before our cita to drop this bomb. She said her mom literally just told her. Ok, I'm a problem-solver. The brother can leave with her, even drop her off, and then go to a friend's house and wait. He doesn't have any friends he can go stay with, right now. So, needless to say, this whole thing blew up at the 11th hour. Such a shame, because Wifey and I were both giddy about this chick.

So, as usual, Pinky saves the night. I summon her. Her little dyke friend is over; sleeping in her bed. She sends a pic. Wifey thinks the photo is of the other chick's gay brother. That lightened the mood for 5 seconds. Anyway, now Pinky doesn't want to leave her stalker lesbo friend. She says 2 hours. She asks if she can bring her. I say no. Same shit: they're either watching us bang, making it weird, or I'm banging and thinking about what they could be doing or stealing. So, I tell Pinky this girl can sleep there, sleep here, or sleep at home. What's the point of it being here? She's sleeping! Pinky finally submits, and within about 45 mins she's over. Wifey was being a twit, all night, and we were bickering. I ended up banging Pinky 3 times from night til morning. Wifey's attitude + the quarantine relaxation, this week, might be cause for the love affair to come to a screeching halt, but we'll see.

I'm wondering how the already-mechanical service at the casas might be amplified by any in-house regulations or personal rules by the girls. Looking forward to seeing the first reports.

Looks like I might be able to finally get a haircut, this week!

No change from pre-coronavirus casa experience. Amigas Sexxy is asking customers to make appointments. The others are not.

Good call by the way on the last minute LGBTQ chaperone. That is a 100% GTFOH request.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2454897]Wifey approved a smoke show coming over, on Thursday night. I had been talking to her back and forth for a bit. She was the one that said she couldn't come over, about a week ago, then was begging and sending pics. So, we agree on 200 k for a few hours, trio. She sends a couple of sexy videos, asks to see Wifey's photos, all is good. She asks if she can come at 10 p. I said I need to work in the morning and don't want to be up until 4 a. Wifey suggested 6 p. So, naturally, we agree on 8 p. Wifey is convinced she has another cita. I had already asked that question, and she said no. She was also messaging all evening long. Well, she asks if she can come at 10 p, around 7 p. I again say no. We agree on 9 p. I was just starting to cook dinner, and still needed to shower. It worked fine, for me, but it irked Wifey, again. This chick is HOT, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2454433]I didn't need advise on batteries. I just needed advise on age differences with 3 somes. She is early 30's. Would she be okay with an 18 - 22 year old. That is the question. I think you miss the boat on this surfer. But I went out and bought 2 packs of triple a batteries. 6 mil. So when I got back, we got the one that needed triple a batteries to work. It's a small size vibrator. She has one you put inside the pussy and stimulate clit as well. I had double a batteries, so got that to work. She has a glass vibrator, and the new one you put the pussy and it vibrates. I am hoping to videotape her enjoying herself. She cooked for me today. And spent lots of time making tic toc video. I know very little Spanish but we are managing. She's trying to get me to wash the dishes LOL.[/QUOTE]Blakman, welcome to the club! As they say, "Give a Paisa 2 AAA batteries, and they'l take your anal virginity" or something like that. Regarding the threesomes, 25 year old Paisas think they are 7 x more experienced than 18 year old Paisas. Now, neither of them have likely left Medellin, let alone, Colombia. Neither of them have held a real job. Etc etc. The difference is, the 25 year old has 2 kids, and knows the 18 year old is cutting into her earnings. So, as previously stated, show love to the cougar. Now, in my case, my 18 year old has her eyes rolled back, while another 18-21 year old is going down on her, or vice versa. So, I don't have to worry too much about. However, I always take the opportunity to make it appear like it is OUR experience, and WE are using the third member for OUR pleasure. Again, I don't think you're in the same situation. So, I suggest having the young chick ride you while you have the cougar 7 or 8 or whatever she is this week sit on your face. Win Win Win. Then, while she's showering her old tits off, have a quick go at the cub! If your 30 year old is on Tik Tok all day, then she's clearly competing with 18 years olds for attention on a regular basis.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454877]If I had a crystal ball back in the end of February when I'm still in Medellin that tells me about this lockdown, I would have stayed. Instead of having the most miserable time of my life, I would be living in heaven right now.[/QUOTE]I love the passion in these comments SJobs! I feel for you. If I was in the US, this whole time, I probably wouldn't have opened this site / forum, at all. I couldn't do it to myself. I'd be on Chaturbate and Pornhub looking up Asian, Black, European, anything but Latina / Colombian. I hope you and others can get back in the game ASAP!

Apologies is this is a repeat, but I don't think I posted it. Wifey had a zinger the other day that might draw a few laughs from this group. We were watching the finale of The Last Dance, and she asked if it is harder for the visiting team to win. I started laughing, and gathered my thoughts in Spanish. "Of course it's harder to win as the visitor. Everything is against them. What do you think?" Well, you're the visitor in Colombia, and you're fucking every young Paisa you want, and having threesomes every night! Point taken.

The 8th has not come back since her exodus yesterday. She text me late last night but I ignored the text. She text me this afternoon says she coming then later said she's hanging out with her momma and sister LOL. I have fucked her enough times that it doesn't matter when she returns. Fucking her is no longer the main focus. Slapshot I do want to say she looks very young. I think she has the most perfect boob job. I sent a picture to the 19 year old I invited for the 3 some and she immediately said she's beautiful and accepted the offer. I didn't like how she departed yesterday but I am only paying like $12 a day so no need to fuss. My strategy is to invite a girl everyday for a 3 some and if she does not participate just fuck the girl. Win win. To me it's a blessing when you are near going home and the girl is like messing up. It makes it much easier to not contact her when you get back home. Basically she did it to herself.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2454903]Blakman, welcome to the club! As they say, "Give a Paisa 2 AAA batteries, and they'l take your anal virginity" or something like that. Regarding the threesomes, 25 year old Paisas think they are 7 x more experienced than 18 year old Paisas. Now, neither of them have likely left Medellin, let alone, Colombia. Neither of them have held a real job. Etc etc. The difference is, the 25 year old has 2 kids, and knows the 18 year old is cutting into her earnings. So, as previously stated, show love to the cougar. Now, in my case, my 18 year old has her eyes rolled back, while another 18-21 year old is going down on her, or vice versa. So, I don't have to worry too much about. However, I always take the opportunity to make it appear like it is OUR experience, and WE are using the third member for OUR pleasure. Again, I don't think you're in the same situation. So, I suggest having the young chick ride you while you have the cougar 7 or 8 or whatever she is this week sit on your face. Win Win Win. Then, while she's showering her old tits off, have a quick go at the cub! If your 30 year old is on Tik Tok all day, then she's clearly competing with 18 years olds for attention on a regular basis.

I love the passion in these comments SJobs! I feel for you. If I was in the US, this whole time, I probably wouldn't have opened this site / forum, at all. I couldn't do it to myself. I'd be on Chaturbate and Pornhub looking up Asian, Black, European, anything but Latina / Colombian. I hope you and others can get back in the game ASAP!

Apologies is this is a repeat, but I don't think I posted it. Wifey had a zinger the other day that might draw a few laughs from this group. We were watching the finale of The Last Dance, and she asked if it is harder for the visiting team to win. I started laughing, and gathered my thoughts in Spanish. "Of course it's harder to win as the visitor. Everything is against them. What do you think?" Well, you're the visitor in Colombia, and you're fucking every young Paisa you want, and having threesomes every night! Point taken.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454725]There are people who are willing to accept any entry requirements just to get back in. If they ban the US but open to Canada, I will buy a ticket to Canada and fly to Medellin in a heart beat.[/QUOTE]How are you going to buy a Canadian passport?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454951]How are you going to buy a Canadian passport?[/QUOTE]If it will get me back in Medellin. You selling?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2454951]How are you going to buy a Canadian passport?[/QUOTE]Mr. E you should know how to do this. Spies working in different Countries have Passports with multiple identities as you well know. So at this time, having a Passport from a Country with a low COVID rate will allow you to travel within certain countries that have established a safe corridor (no quarantine), which at this time include Luxembourg, Norway, Sweden. Slovakia, Austria, Czech Republic, Lativa, Lithuania, and Israel. I believe when Colombia opens back up they will have a list of which Countries will be allowed back in along with what the requirements are. So an example, somebody coming from a Country having a low COVID rate may require nothing to get into one of the Countries I mentioned, versus somebody from the USA requiring testing and being quarantined for 14 days. The Colombian government threw out a date of September 1 and have no idea at this moment what the exact requirements will be, and within the next three months they will figure it out, or extend the date. Again, unless your a spy with multiple Passports your likely going to be grounded and severely restricted to where you can go without being quarantined.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2454865]Yep almost 4 years ago my ATF paisa wanted to experience it, she just turned 19 and wanted to experience something new and different and exciting, she is very good looking and is now one of the prime Facebook girls, yep I must have trained her right when she was just a naive beauty in the making, heheheh, anyway it was a place down in or around San Diego as I recall, actually a 5 or 6 block drive away from Fase II as I recall now, anyway paid the fee and got inside the club, very non-de-script from the outside and is located in an industrial area, maybe it was an off night, possibly a mid-week night and also the night was still early, so got inside and it was us and another 2 couples, old and unattractive both the men and women, so after about 20 minutes we left.

For what it's worth. Nothing about it has ever been really interesting to me.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I haven't experienced any swinger's clubs in Medellin, although have a girl who wants me to take her to one. I have been to quite a few throughout the US. Here's some generic info.

They're just about always in an industrial area. A good club needs a lot of square footage and no noise complaints. Back before Phoenix shut them all down, there was a great club there which pulled a decent crowd mid-week. My Phoenix girlfriend used to go and often take her friends, to play darts and dance on Wednesday nights. That was one of the nights when unaccompanied men were allowed in. She could dance all night, get flirted with by guys 15 years younger and not spend any money. That was an exception. Other than Friday and Saturday night, it's a waste of time.

Swinger's clubs don't really get hopping until 10:30 or later. There are always those who are there when the doors open, but the crowds come later. However, it's a good idea to get in before the crowds to get a good spot.

If you're going alone, to a club that allows single men, expect a sausage fest. There will likely be 10 guys for every woman. I understand that some Colombian clubs bring in hookers to accommodate the single men and the couples who are looking for a third. Medellin being what it is, there's no reason to go alone. Find yourself a bisexual exhibitionist to take.

I also understand that Colombian clubs make you change clothes. They have lockers and I think they require everyone to strip down to no more than underwear. Check with the club.

Every club I've been to followed the same routine. Light music early, there's a buffet or snack table, people starting to filter in. Around 9:30-10:00 music volume goes up, lots of dance music of the Rick James variety. Some time after 10:30, when the dance floor has filled, they'll play 3 slow songs in a row. That finishes with a lot of people heading to the back where the beds and couches are.

My strategy was always to take my girl to the back in the middle of the second slow song and we'd set up in a visible central location and start getting busy. At the end of the third song we'd be surrounded by other couples all watching us. We'd have a lot of options on who we wanted to join us.

In my experience, the party starts winding down between 2 and 3 am, although I've spent the entire night in several places.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454877]If I had a crystal ball back in the end of February when I'm still in Medellin that tells me about this lockdown, I would have stayed. Instead of having the most miserable time of my life, I would be living in heaven right now.[/QUOTE]There are some desperate dudes on this forum. In the meantime, just get a regular girl that you don't have to pay. I picked up a college chick who is a cashier at the local Aldis and is staying up here because she wants to stay out of NYC. She's got a big round ass that would bring you guys to your knees. Not some light-skinned, no-curves spinner (although I know European guys for some reason like that). All I did was ask as she rang up my groceries. Done, just like that. Yeah, you might have to wait a year or so before borders open back up, but it's not the end of the world. Once they do, everyone can have as many "payable" girls as they want.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2454957]If it will get me back in Medellin. You selling?[/QUOTE]SJobs, IMO one shouldn't get caught up in all the conjecture on the board.

Europe is opening up, I'm heading to Spain in early July, no banning of US passport entry, no quarantine.

Most likely the same when Colombia opens.

Just chill, get your ducks in a row, and plan on a September arrival.

It will most likely happen, regardless of the assumptions made on this board.

No reason to change your nationality just yet, LOL.

[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2455065]There are some desperate dudes on this forum. In the meantime, just get a regular girl that you don't have to pay. I picked up a college chick who is a cashier at the local Aldis and is staying up here because she wants to stay out of NYC. She's got a big round ass that would bring you guys to your knees. Not some light-skinned, no-curves spinner (although I know European guys for some reason like that). All I did was ask as she rang up my groceries. Done, just like that. Yeah, you might have to wait a year or so before borders open back up, but it's not the end of the world. Once they do, everyone can have as many "payable" girls as they want.[/QUOTE]Exactly!!

I did the same!

Picked up a tight little Central American spinner, and she brings her cousins over!

IMO, positivity is the way to live.

I know it's cliche to say, but Life really is short. Live!

In some ways my situation now is better than that of the drama I'm reading on this board, LOL.

Good latina booty in my Condo on the beach.

Bottom line is, Colombia will open when it opens.

These posters on the board have no clue, and neither do I, however, you're young, seem like a cool dude, find some booty, have a tryst, enjoy life.

Hit Colombia when it opens!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2455067]Exactly!!

I did the same!

Picked up a tight little Central American spinner, and she brings her cousins over!

IMO, positivity is the way to live.

I know it's cliche to say, but Life really is short. Live!

In some ways my situation now is better than that of the drama I'm reading on this board, LOL.

Good latina booty in my Condo on the beach.

Bottom line is, Colombia will open when it opens.

These posters on the board have no clue, and neither do I, however, you're young, seem like a cool dude, find some booty, have a tryst, enjoy life.

Hit Colombia when it opens!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the optimism, we can all use some of that during this time; another positive new is that NASA and Elon musk have just successfully put two American astronauts to the international space station! This is the dawn of a new era! One step closer to mars! Go Elon!

In terms of paid options, I have access to decent looking girls in their late 20's to mid 30's, threesome and foursome are all available here, it's very expensive, but I can still afford it, just not as frequently. It's not hard to go on tinder or bumble to get a new match with a decent looking girl in their late 20's to mid 30's every day; but we all know the most expensive sex is free sex; plus this quarantine makes meeting new people more challenging.

Hats off to you guys, it's amazing you guys have enough game to pick up 18-21 year olds in the States during the quarantine. You guys have infinitely more game than I can ever dream for.

For the past decade, I have been traveling around the world every few months either to Brazil or Zurich / Frankfurt to monger, it has became my life style. I first came to Medellin late last year, and it took my mongering experience to a whole new level. My love affair with Medellin was at the most intense moment before this stupid lockdown started. Instead of fucking 4 or 5 super hot 18-year-olds every night, now I'm paying 10 x more and fucking two 28-year-olds a few times a months, this is pure hell for me.

[QUOTE=Combo;2453947]Colombian Food tends to be loaded with sugar and salt (and starch). Every bit if not more than that in the USA.

That said, I disagree with the poster criticizing the food in MDE. While you may not find any Michelin starred restaurants, there are some very solid options at ridiculously low prices. Provenza and Envigado are the best restaurant zones IMO. But I've had good restaurant experience all over the metro area.[/QUOTE]Sorry it took so long to get back to this. Every time I started in on a reply, something popped up to distract me.

In regards to Colombia food being saltier and sugarier than US food, that turns out to not be the case.

With salt, it's close. Average daily sodium intake in the US is 5.1 grams. For Colombia the average is 4.6 grams.

With sugar it's not anywhere close. 126.4 grams in the US compared to 36.4 grams in Colombia.

As a percentage of total dietary intake, Colombia consumes more carbohydrates than the US, 66% to 45%. However, the majority of carbohydrates, including all those starchy foods, in Colombia are from things like rice, beans, potatoes and yuca, along with fresh fruit. In the US most of the carbohydrates are sugars.

If you get away from Parque Lleras you'll find the food a lot less salty.

And if you're craving sweets, head to Salpijugos on Avenida Poblado in Envigado. They have some incredible fruit salads served with ice cream and whipped cream. They've also got some great entrees.

Wifey just left. Slapshot is a free man. I think I had this in my head the second I heard restrictions would be relaxed, starting tomorrow. I don't know. Maybe she did, too. The last few days have not been the same. She wasn't doing shit around the apartment, she was even worse than normal when it came to any remote sense of connection. I couldn't touch her when she was watching tv, playing on her phone, sleeping, etc. She's always been a bit like that, but this was even worse. So, she had told me a couple nights ago if I do the dishes for her, she'll clean the jacuzzi. I'm working out, today, I drain the jacuzzi, send a pic. She starts joking about some bullshit. I finish my workout, and tell her she could have already been done, and spent some time with me while she did it. An hour or so goes by, and it's at about the time where there isn't enough time for the jacuzzi to be cleaned, re-filled, and heated, in time for anything tonight. She's sending me pictures of some cute chick, and I say, "Oh, well I hope she doesn't want to use the jacuzzi" - She says she burned her thumb while making herself breakfast, and she can't hold the towel to clean.

My response: When are you leaving?

Her: Ya.

Pretty simple.

Pinky had messaged me this morning asking what was up tonight. I told her I had a feeling Wifey might be leaving; which was pretty easy to predict, considering I wanted that, but had not yet admitted it to myself. So, Pinky offered to come over regardless. I might go a different direction. I think tomorrow is going to be like the wild wild west, with the change to pico & cedula. Basically, every other day you can leave, and you can be out "exercising" for 2 hours every day, etc etc. I think I might just go hard on the SA / WA / Tinder / FB today, and set some shit up for the week. Take some time to myself, tonight, and hit Carulla tomorrow for beer, Smirnoff Ice, and cash. Tuesday haircut, and then I'll probably venture out to Botero / casas, one day this week, just to get the fuck out of the apartment.

This will be a ding in my bank account, but it's time for a change. Wifey said let's do this without fighting, and when you want me to come back for a threesome, just let me know. So, I think it went as good as it could.

Everyone in the US, stay safe. Crazy shit going on. I don't pay attention to the news, but it's impossible to not see things on social media, etc. , right now. My buddy in OC sent me some things this morning about delivery trucks attempting to drop pallets of bricks in alleys near Main St where the protest will be (I made the last part up, but I'm assuming that's where it will be). There was also some document explaining where to meet, in code words, and to not stop until directed to by whomever. You can't believe everything you see and read, but it's just getting fucking nutty. I'm so happy to be sitting in a quiet apartment in Medellin, typing this. Although, I wouldn't mind heading to the local watering hole for a beer. Hopefully we can do that here, soon. I had thought Colombia was doing a fairly good job with the virus, but studies are showing that is not the case, and that it could get much much worse. It will be interesting to see how the upcoming changes affect the numbers. Positive thoughts towards the situation so the ISG cavalry can get back down here!

Cheers.

She arrives about 8 pm after I told her if she's going to come real late then better off come in the morning. She text me the taxi would be 29 mil. I told her I have no money. She says okay. Come downstairs. I was a bit surprised by her acceptance of my response. Maybe she will request it when she's leaving. She's quite casual in shorts, sneakers, bubbly. We get in the apartment and she's hungry. She pulls out eggs, chorros, and fish. Decides to cook. Undresses and she has on sexy matching panties and bra. She was suddenly back in good grace. I kiss on her body and she says I am not clean. So I tried to make sense of this statement. She was coming from her home so I would think she would shower there but if she came from a client apartment then she would shower there as well. So I moved on from the thought. After cooking the meal she showered up and changed into comfortable lingerie. We ate, joked around and clearly the chemistry was back on. We went upstairs and watched a movie. She was playing a little hard to get but finally gave in. We had good sex, not like how it used to be but still good. We had sex twice more in the early morning then I asked to use her vibrator on her. She has the pink one you see a lot in porns where its inserted in her pussy. And then another that is shaped like a dick with an additional piece that's for the clit. Spent like 15 to 25 minutes rubbing it on her clit but didn't seem to have much affect on her. I included the wand vibrador and that also wasnt doing the job. Finally I gave up and left her to sleep. Maybe was a mental thing. I am still waiting to hear from other girl for a trio but at the same time I think the 2 nuts in the morning wiped me out. For the guys who suggested don't do 30 days. I agree. 30 days is way too long to stay with a woman in medellin. 7 days is on the edge also of being way too long. I think the quarantine helps in being able to successful fulfill the agreement. Slapshot has a pretty good deal with his 18 year old so receptive in including one and even 2 chicks to break up the boredom. Anyways that's all for now.

Carbohydrates = sugar.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2455081]Sorry it took so long to get back to this. Every time I started in on a reply, something popped up to distract me.

In regards to Colombia food being saltier and sugarier than US food, that turns out to not be the case.

With salt, it's close. Average daily sodium intake in the US is 5.1 grams. For Colombia the average is 4.6 grams.

With sugar it's not anywhere close. 126.4 grams in the US compared to 36.4 grams in Colombia.

As a percentage of total dietary intake, Colombia consumes more carbohydrates than the US, 66% to 45%. However, the majority of carbohydrates, including all those starchy foods, in Colombia are from things like rice, beans, potatoes and yuca, along with fresh fruit. In the US most of the carbohydrates are sugars.

If you get away from Parque Lleras you'll find the food a lot less salty.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2455081]

In regards to Colombia food being saltier and sugarier than US food, that turns out to not be the case.[/QUOTE]I think there are too much fried food. Their food scene is not developed like Lima. For example, one can find various chicharron dishes in Lima but it is a very simple dish in Medellin.

I like the El Contro street food, meat ball, roast beef, fish, hueso. They are delicious, fast and cheap, perfect for one person

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455109]Well. The 8 returns after a days exodus[/QUOTE]Are you going to pay her for the missing time?

The Countries that show low infection rates are the ones that do not do much testing. When I was in Thailand February this year there was a lot of people around with that dry hacking cough. Hell I came down with mysterious flu like symptoms day 3 in Bangkok that cleared up in a week. With the millions of Chinese tourists there from China all over the place I'm sure that the Virus was wide spread at that time. I had this hot Asian chick that I order up from Thai Friendly that appeared to have a slight fever and the hacking cough and banged her on a few occasions and never got sick. On top of that I had a flight from Bangkok to Tokyo with a sick coughing China man sitting next to me. I never got sick so I guess I'm immune to it now.

What bums me out is because all of these countries don't test and hide their numbers and in the USA we test and are transparent giving the appearance that we Americans have the virus more than other Countries.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2455053]Mr. E you should know how to do this. Spies working in different Countries have Passports with multiple identities as you well know. So at this time, having a Passport from a Country with a low COVID rate will allow you to travel within certain countries that have established a safe corridor (no quarantine), which at this time include Luxembourg, Norway, Sweden. Slovakia, Austria, Czech Republic, Lativa, Lithuania, and Israel. I believe when Colombia opens back up they will have a list of which Countries will be allowed back in along with what the requirements are. So an example, somebody coming from a Country having a low COVID rate may require nothing to get into one of the Countries I mentioned, versus somebody from the USA requiring testing and being quarantined for 14 days. The Colombian government threw out a date of September 1 and have no idea at this moment what the exact requirements will be, and within the next three months they will figure it out, or extend the date. Again, unless your a spy with multiple Passports your likely going to be grounded and severely restricted to where you can go without being quarantined.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2455114]I think there are too much fried food. Their food scene is not developed like Lima. For example, one can find various chicharron dishes in Lima but it is a very simple dish in Medellin.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, Nounce, I noticed the same thing, but can you tell me why the women / people are fat in the USA and to some degree in Peru and not in Colombia?

Some people have said it is the walking, and it may be that some, but a lot of women I know take Taxis and uber ETC everywhere and are thin. Genetics too?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2455081]

With sugar it's not anywhere close. 126.4 grams in the US compared to 36.4 grams in Colombia.

As a percentage of total dietary intake, Colombia consumes more carbohydrates than the US, 66% to 45%. However, the majority of carbohydrates, including all those starchy foods, in Colombia are from things like rice, beans, potatoes and yuca, along with fresh fruit. In the US most of the carbohydrates are sugars.
[/QUOTE]Maybe that is why the women in Colombia are thinner, but in the USA JJBee, when you say sugar, I assume you mean sugar and high fructose corn syrup. HCFS may be the devil. God, I hope we ban that shit.

Genetics help, and there is a lot of truth in the level of physical activity factor. For example, in the US you don't see nearly as much obesity on the east and west coast as you do in the midwest and deep south. I think the level of physical activity on the east coast where you have to walk at least a little to get to public transportation is a factor. I think it's also a factor on the west coast where the weather and fitness culture exist in ways they don't in the midwest and deep south. Idaho and the Boise Cascade region is another US area where there is a lot of emphasis on outdoor sports and healthy living.

Back to Colombia and Latin America, I believe portion size is the #1 overall difference that prevents the obesity related health problems we see in the US. All you can eat chains and even casual dining table service restaurants in the US serve "bottomless" soft drinks. Worse still, they offer refills to go. It's madness, who really needs to leave a huge meal and unlimited tableside drink refills with a huge cup of sugary soft drink? Those chain restaurants of the Olive Garden, Texas Roadhouse etc variety serve portions that can feed an entire family. You don't see that in Europe or Asia either.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2455140]Yeah, Nounce, I noticed the same thing, but can you tell me why the women / people are fat in the USA and to some degree in Peru and not in Colombia?

Some people have said it is the walking, and it may be that some, but a lot of women I know take Taxis and uber ETC everywhere and are thin. Genetics too?[/QUOTE]

I agree the volume of testing informs the infection statistics. Also remember that 80% of confirmed cases have no symptoms. Anyone who has not been tested could be infected at this moment and not be aware.

[QUOTE=Mongo1;2455138]The Countries that show low infection rates are the ones that do not do much testing. When I was in Thailand February this year there was a lot of people around with that dry hacking cough. Hell I came down with mysterious flu like symptoms day 3 in Bangkok that cleared up in a week. With the millions of Chinese tourists there from China all over the place I'm sure that the Virus was wide spread at that time. I had this hot Asian chick that I order up from Thai Friendly that appeared to have a slight fever and the hacking cough and banged her on a few occasions and never got sick. On top of that I had a flight from Bangkok to Tokyo with a sick coughing China man sitting next to me. I never got sick so I guess I'm immune to it now.

What bums me out is because all of these countries don't test and hide their numbers and in the USA we test and are transparent giving the appearance that we Americans have the virus more than other Countries.[/QUOTE]

Thanks to those that shared stories about swinger clubs. I've never been. And who knows when they'll be open again here in Medellin. I hear the one with the pool is nice. I'm going to find a girl to go when we can. Report to follow. Someday.

Meanwhile, I'm moving into a new apartment tomorrow and have a 23 yo Venezuelan coming over the following morning.

Good Evening. I'm interested in finding a 5-7 day girl. This is a new approach for me. But under the circumstances I should have come her and pursued it weeks ago. Who can point me in the right direction or given contacts?

Mil Gracias!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2455140]Yeah, Nounce, I noticed the same thing, but can you tell me why the women / people are fat in the USA and to some degree in Peru and not in Colombia?

Some people have said it is the walking, and it may be that some, but a lot of women I know take Taxis and uber ETC everywhere and are thin. Genetics too?[/QUOTE]They're catching up to their US Counterparts. In the time I've been going to Colombia (about 19 years), the women have progressively gotten fatter. Maybe it's the increased availability of fast food.

I'm good friends with a Colombian couple in MDE. The way the wife has ballooned since they got married a few years ago is disturbing, and she hasn't even had kids.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2455111]Carbohydrates = sugar.[/QUOTE]Yes. Sugars and fibers and starches are all sources of carbohydrates. Carbohydrates are not only sugars, but processed sugar is a major source of carbohydrates in the US diet.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2455143]Maybe that is why the women in Colombia are thinner, but in the USA JJBee, when you say sugar, I assume you mean sugar and high fructose corn syrup. HCFS may be the devil. God, I hope we ban that shit.[/QUOTE]HCFS and sugar both. HCFS is nasty enough. There's simply too much of both in the diet.

[QUOTE=Combo;2455170]They're catching up to their US Counterparts. In the time I've been going to Colombia (about 19 years), the women have progressively gotten fatter. Maybe it's the increased availability of fast food.

I'm good friends with a Colombian couple in MDE. The way the wife has ballooned since they got married a few years ago is disturbing, and she hasn't even had kids.[/QUOTE]Especially for the fast food, Colombia imports a lot of things, like the french fries. I've seen quite a few McCain's boxes, a major US supplier of fries. Their fries are only about 70% potato with all kinds of added starches.

As they move away from the traditional diet combined with a more sedentary lifestyle, expect the bellies to get bigger.

[QUOTE=Combo;2455170]They're catching up to their US Counterparts. In the time I've been going to Colombia (about 19 years), the women have progressively gotten fatter. Maybe it's the increased availability of fast food.

I'm good friends with a Colombian couple in MDE. The way the wife has ballooned since they got married a few years ago is disturbing, and she hasn't even had kids.[/QUOTE]They have been fat for awhile and big / fake asses is the dumbest thing in the world, just makes no sense, to intentionally make your fat ass even bigger.

Because I am paying such a low rate already, Like $12 a day it's not a big issue. The day and half is $18 total.

She has exceeded expectations as a cook. And when she is at the apartment she's great companionship. I am more focus on her leaving than the miss days. She seems very comfortable. The level of sex has dropped off, the quantity still remains.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2455127]Are you going to pay her for the missing time?[/QUOTE].

[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/global-destinations-reopening-to-tourists/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455219]Because I am paying such a low rate already, Like $12 a day it's not a big issue. The day and half is $18 total.

She has exceeded expectations as a cook. And when she is at the apartment she's great companionship. I am more focus on her leaving than the miss days. She seems very comfortable. The level of sex has dropped off, the quantity still remains..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a somewhat similar arrangement that I had, and it's a good one. You have a girl you like to play house with, you get along well with, a great companion, yet you don't see her everyday and when she's away you play. I had one like that I called my "weekend girlfriend."

She would come over on Friday nights, stay until Monday morning, and then during the week I would be in El Centro banging my stable of walkers.

For some, it just doesn't get much better than this type of arrangement, and for others, it just doesn't work for them.

Regardless, sound like your happy with the arrangement you currently have, and that's all that matters.

The hot girl that wanted to bring her 19 yo gay brother was scheduled to come over last night. She said 10 p. This was around 8 p, and at 9 p she was confirming I would come downstairs to pay taxi.

11:30 rolls around and she has gone dark, with no explanation. I could have had Pinky save the night, again, but I was video-chatting with some buddies, drinking a good tequila, and didn't care much. However, I did message her around that time, "eres tonto o que? - to which she has not replied. Actually, she hasn't even read it. So, unfortunately, there won't be a third opportunity to fuck up a cita, for her.

I connected with a really good-looking 20 yo on SA. She's scheduled to come over for dinner, drinks, jacuzzi, music, etc. Tonight. She wants me to make sangria. First time I've received that request. Anyhow, I asked her what she wanted from me, and she responded, "conocerte" - sooooo this is awkward. I guess I'll just see how it goes. I'll try to condition my brain to not expect sex, tonight. I've had a couple of these weird Tinder / SA dates in the past, where it's a light make out, and the girl is keeping her guard up. She's wondering why this gringo is in her city. She's wondering what this gringo's intentions are. But why the fuck is she sitting on the couch of some Tinder / SA gringo, if she has these questions?! We'll see. Plenty of time for mistakes, these days. On that note:

"10. If your permit (I. E. Tourists permits) expired / will expire during quarantine you will automatically receive an extension of 1 additional month counting from the day that the Sanitary Emergency is set to expire on August 31,2020. Keep in mind that you will need to use this extra month to 1. Leave the country 2. Apply for a visa or 3. Request a tourist permit extension. Also, PLEASE continue to monitor whether Migracion offices reopen and / or online system to renew is reactivated as you may be required to go to Migracion directly or even apply online for an extension, even if currently you can take advantage of the additional month described above. We expect this potential discrepancy to be clarified in future decrees. ".

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2455296]The hot girl that wanted to bring her 19 yo gay brother was scheduled to come over last night. She said 10 p. This was around 8 p, and at 9 p she was confirming I would come downstairs to pay taxi.

11:30 rolls around and she has gone dark, with no explanation. I could have had Pinky save the night, again, but I was video-chatting with some buddies, drinking a good tequila, and didn't care much. However, I did message her around that time, "eres tonto o que? - to which she has not replied. Actually, she hasn't even read it. So, unfortunately, there won't be a third opportunity to fuck up a cita, for her.

I connected with a really good-looking 20 yo on SA. She's scheduled to come over for dinner, drinks, jacuzzi, music, etc. Tonight. She wants me to make sangria. First time I've received that request. Anyhow, I asked her what she wanted from me, and she responded, "conocerte" - sooooo this is awkward. I guess I'll just see how it goes. I'll try to condition my brain to not expect sex, tonight. I've had a couple of these weird Tinder / SA dates in the past, where it's a light make out, and the girl is keeping her guard up. She's wondering why this gringo is in her city. She's wondering what this gringo's intentions are. But why the fuck is she sitting on the couch of some Tinder / SA gringo, if she has these questions?! We'll see. Plenty of time for mistakes, these days. On that note:

"10. If your permit (I. E. Tourists permits) expired / will expire during quarantine you will automatically receive an extension of 1 additional month counting from the day that the Sanitary Emergency is set to expire on August 31,2020. Keep in mind that you will need to use this extra month to 1. Leave the country 2. Apply for a visa or 3. Request a tourist permit extension. Also, PLEASE continue to monitor whether Migracion offices reopen and / or online system to renew is reactivated as you may be required to go to Migracion directly or even apply online for an extension, even if currently you can take advantage of the additional month described above. We expect this potential discrepancy to be clarified in future decrees. ".[/QUOTE]On your SA girl it is a bit more like a date with some and it helps to play it that way. In Japan they have this thing called Nanpa where they pick up civvies on the street and bed them. It's a skill. They have some great advice that I have used with success. You probably won't need all this.

First have a strong frame. Your frame is that you dig each other and it's appropriate to have sex and you are different from most guys. When you meet LMR (last minute resistance) maybe you kiss but is seems she's not down. Back off. Turn on Netflix. Ignore. Retry in a bit. It will go farther. Keep push and pull and you will get there. She may put up ASD (anti **** defense) and you have to help her see she is not being a ****. She sees and appreciates that you are different so it's different and sex is Ok.

Sure you won't need all this but I came up with a super slutty looking hottie in Vegas but back at the room it was "oh I can't have sex with someone I just met". So I pushed and pulled a bit. Told her we can just make out like high schoolers. No sex. Well 20 minutes later she says "OK we can have sex now". Hahaha. Those Japanese have it figured out!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2455243][URL]https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/global-destinations-reopening-to-tourists/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]This is good information, but a little misleading in that the entry requirements are somewhat vague or don't specify what is required by the Countries. As an example, the article makes it sound as though anyone can show up and enter Greece, which might be an option for some. I had some okay experiences in Greece last year at the "studios", or their version of casa's, so in digging a little deeper on the Internet considering maybe returning in July, it appears the Country has a list of Countries allowed in with no quarantine, and other Countries, which include the USA currently having a testing requirement with a one night stay in a Hotel designated by the authorities, and than only a one week quarantine versus a two week quarantine. This seems to be a step in the right direction as far as opening up Countries, especially those so dependent on tourism.

So if Colombia perhaps comes up with something like this, being sequestered for only one week would be much better than two weeks. One way a guy could handle a week of being quarantined in Medellin would be to rent a room at the Hotel Premier Plaza, literally right above ground zero, and rent the room that opens up to the balcony. A guy could just sit on the balcony, and basically reel the hoe's in from down below. Almost like fishing from a pier, no rod, no reel, no line, no hook, no chum or bait required. Just a wave to come on up for a session, of course you would have to grease the skids with the staff of the Hotel, and 10,000 Peso bills would do the trick.

She has her moments where she doesn't respond to my request but then moments when she does stuff with out a demand. Yeah she is fun. It does work but 7 days max. 3 some today supposively. I just bought rum a big step for me LOL and we salud a few shots. She wants the girl to come but then she ask me for more money. What the fuck. Well let's see how it goes. If the other girl shows up. Another girl wants to come but she chose the other girl instead. I am bum out. I don't see a humanitarian flight for July and I missed out on June.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2455271]Sounds like you have a somewhat similar arrangement that I had, and it's a good one. You have a girl you like to play house with, you get along well with, a great companion, yet you don't see her everyday and when she's away you play. I had one like that I called my "weekend girlfriend."

She would come over on Friday nights, stay until Monday morning, and then during the week I would be in El Centro banging my stable of walkers.

For some, it just doesn't get much better than this type of arrangement, and for others, it just doesn't work for them.

Regardless, sound like your happy with the arrangement you currently have, and that's all that matters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2455243][URL]https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/global-destinations-reopening-to-tourists/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for this information. If the FKKs open up in Germany, I might go there to get my fix.

So I have to ask. What was the purpose of her bringing her 19 yo gay brother? I'm assuming you are not into that kind of trio.

And be careful with some of these guys. Gay or straight. Could have been a chance for him to rip you off while you were banging his sister. Good thing she (and he) did not come.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2455296]The hot girl that wanted to bring her 19 yo gay brother was scheduled to come over last night. She said 10 p. This was around 8 p, and at 9 p she was confirming I would come downstairs to pay taxi.

11:30 rolls around and she has gone dark, with no explanation. I could have had Pinky save the night, again, but I was video-chatting with some buddies, drinking a good tequila, and didn't care much. However, I did message her around that time, "eres tonto o que? - to which she has not replied. Actually, she hasn't even read it. So, unfortunately, there won't be a third opportunity to fuck up a cita, for her.

I connected with a really good-looking 20 yo on SA. She's scheduled to come over for dinner, drinks, jacuzzi, music, etc. Tonight. She wants me to make sangria. First time I've received that request. Anyhow, I asked her what she wanted from me, and she responded, "conocerte" - sooooo this is awkward. I guess I'll just see how it goes. I'll try to condition my brain to not expect sex, tonight. I've had a couple of these weird Tinder / SA dates in the past, where it's a light make out, and the girl is keeping her guard up. She's wondering why this gringo is in her city. She's wondering what this gringo's intentions are. But why the fuck is she sitting on the couch of some Tinder / SA gringo, if she has these questions?! We'll see. Plenty of time for mistakes, these days. On that note:

"10. If your permit (I. E. Tourists permits) expired / will expire during quarantine you will automatically receive an extension of 1 additional month counting from the day that the Sanitary Emergency is set to expire on August 31,2020. Keep in mind that you will need to use this extra month to 1. Leave the country 2. Apply for a visa or 3. Request a tourist permit extension. Also, PLEASE continue to monitor whether Migracion offices reopen and / or online system to renew is reactivated as you may be required to go to Migracion directly or even apply online for an extension, even if currently you can take advantage of the additional month described above. We expect this potential discrepancy to be clarified in future decrees. ".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2455354]Thanks for this information. If the FKKs open up in Germany, I might go there to get my fix.[/QUOTE]Globe (Switzerland) and its sister clubs are having a rolling opening this month. Twice German prices but the only game in town. And SJobs you know Globe is worth a few bucks for that service level.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2455299]On your SA girl it is a bit more like a date with some and it helps to play it that way. In Japan they have this thing called Nanpa where they pick up civvies on the street and bed them. It's a skill. They have some great advice that I have used with success. You probably won't need all this.

First have a strong frame. Your frame is that you dig each other and it's appropriate to have sex and you are different from most guys. When you meet LMR (last minute resistance) maybe you kiss but is seems she's not down. Back off. Turn on Netflix. Ignore. Retry in a bit. It will go farther. Keep push and pull and you will get there. She may put up ASD (anti **** defense) and you have to help her see she is not being a ****. She sees and appreciates that you are different so it's different and sex is Ok.

Sure you won't need all this but I came up with a super slutty looking hottie in Vegas but back at the room it was "oh I can't have sex with someone I just met". So I pushed and pulled a bit. Told her we can just make out like high schoolers. No sex. Well 20 minutes later she says "OK we can have sex now". Hahaha. Those Japanese have it figured out![/QUOTE]This tactic is in my bag. Nonetheless, I love the history / cultural lesson aspect! We'll see if I need to bring it out.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2455361]So I have to ask. What was the purpose of her bringing her 19 yo gay brother? I'm assuming you are not into that kind of trio.

And be careful with some of these guys. Gay or straight. Could have been a chance for him to rip you off while you were banging his sister. Good thing she (and he) did not come.[/QUOTE]Who fucking knows. 1) She said her mom told her she can't leave without her brother, 2) Her brother didn't have friends whom he could go hang out with, 3) Maybe she figured free partying for her and her "brother".

Needless to say, that wasn't going to happen.

Date night starts in about 30 mins. Wifey sent me photos of a real hottie, today. She just got out of a lesbian relationship, and called Wifey to chat. Wifey suggested they come visit me. That's on for tomorrow night.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2453273]The Chaturbate search doesn't work for shit. Just add a backslash and the user name after the Chaturbate URL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for explaining that. Unfortunately she has not been logged on for a week. I will just favorite her for now.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2455354]Thanks for this information. If the FKKs open up in Germany, I might go there to get my fix.[/QUOTE]If your in California you really don't need to go far. The Tijuana Mexico street scene is alive and well, and I know guys that go down every weekend, but it's not like Colombia, not even close, but is inexpensive compared to the FKK's in Germany. I went to the one in Berlin last October, and wasn't really impressed, but did get to walk around wearing a bath-robe as though I was Hugh Hefner!

21 yo SA girl just left. She has a twin sister and a 19 yo sister. Such a cute face, nice hair, great smile. Her body isn't a 10, but it was good enough. Definitely not fat or any other issues. We started making the sangria right away. Her English is about as good as my Spanish, so we could easily converse all night. She used translator once. Anyway, how refreshing to have a date, and be vibing. She cut the fruit and made the sangria, as I BBQd the chicken and steamed the rice. After the sangria, she wanted to try the Zacapa. We drank quite a bit. Not necessarily for me, but for her, certainly.

I knew it was headed in the right direction. She made a few comments that showed her hand. She gave some salsa lessons, and I played along. Eventually, I lean in and it's game on. We finally decide to go up to the jacuzzi. It was about 2 mins in the jacuzzi before she was on top of me, another 2 mins before my trunks were off. She made a comment about a condom, and I don't even know my response but basically blew it off. She was a little toothy, at first, but gave good head. Took it all the way, used her hand, and it was the type of passion you don't always get with a pro. I returned the favor, propping her up on the corner, and I thought she was going to cum right away. It maybe took 10 mins, end then I knew she had forgotten anything about a condom. I had her come down and give me head again, and then put her back in her spot. It felt great. Nice, tight, and wet. I ended up turning her around, and finished in her mouth. She traced the path of my cum with her finger, showing me she had swallowed it.

We sipped our rum & cokes, listened to some music, and then as I was banging her a second time, her mom called. She messaged back she was on her way. It was almost 12. We made our wade to the bed. In the jacuzzi, I was having trouble getting fully hard. Probably a combo of the trifecta: alcohol, re-whatever time, and heat / dehydration. Anyway, to the bed for 69. Fantastic view. Not a hair in sight. She tongued my culo, without coercing. Got hard, and she rode for a bit. I noticed she was watching herself in the mirror, which was kind of hot. I flipped her over and had her feet on my chest, taking all I could give. I turned her over, pencil form, and she seemed to like that. Maybe new to her, not sure. I finished on her back. She nibbled on some chocolate I bought her, and asked for an Uber / Didi. All in all, I believe it is about (oh fuck. I just realized I didn't give her money for the Didi) the Uber was 11 k. I meant to give her 20 k for Didi, because Uber didn't connect with anyone at 1215 a. My bad. So, all in all, 11 k + chicken, rice, chocolate, fruit, wine, & rum. So, in short, more than Blakman usually pays. Fuck, I can't win.

It was a great change of pace type of night. Passionate. She seems like the type that probably bangs a few gringos a year, just so she can speak some English, and escape her school / family for a night.

I'll probably see her again. Definitely if these Paisas keep up their bullshit of unannounced cancellations, overpricing, stupid rules, etc etc.

Next up, Wifey and her hot not-so-lesbian friend. They moved up our meet to 4 p, tomorrow. So, probably going to work for a bit, 2 p haircut, workout, and then they'll be here.

I've been chatting up a new FB, IG and tagged chicas in Medellin. I speak native Spanish and I'm 40. They are all. Good and down to fuck as soon as I get there and I do this pregame coaxing to weed out which I will get the most from. Swallow, anal, bareback videos shit like that. But when its all discussed and sorted out they all say can you send me money for food. That kills it. They say they haven't eaten in days. I say (just to test them) ill send you a uber eats and they decline. They want money. Shit these hoes all doing this shit. Last 5 have asked me that. I always tell them listen let me just hit you up when I get there. I'm not going to pay for nothing.

Uber is back thank goodness. I am so sick of explaining to taxistas how to use Didi and how to accept credit cards, and what GPS is.

This is their job. They do it to make money. Talking to me when I am not here is of no value to them if I don't send money, and I never do. Consider this, do you imagine guy after guy asking about how far they can push the envelope could sound like a script to them?

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455439]I've been chatting up a new FB, IG and tagged chicas in medellin. I speak native spanish and I'm 40. They are all. Good and down to fuck as soon as I get there and I do this pregame coaxing to weed out which I will get the most from. Swallow, anal, bareback videos shit like that. But when its all discussed and sorted out they all say can you send me money for food. That kills it. They say they haven't eaten in days. I say (just to test them) ill send you a uber eats and they decline. They want money. Shit these hoes all doing this shit. Last 5 have asked me that. I always tell them listen let me just hit you up when I get there. I'm not going to pay for nothing.[/QUOTE]

What is the difference between a regular flight on spirit airlines vs a humanitarian flight. Is spirit listing of regular flights legit or just an attempt to get you to pay, cancel, keep your money.

Humanitarian flights are those that Spirit has been operating to repatriate Americans and permanent residents since the border was closed in March. Regular flights are those that are not scheduled to resume before September 1. As of this morning all humanitarian flights are sold out but Spirit has been adding two per week regularly. You have to search for one way Medellin to Ft. Lauderdale to see them on Spirit's web site. You can also register with the US Embassy to receive what I'm told are notification a day or two in advance of the flights appearing on Spirit's web site.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455524]What is the difference between a regular flight on spirit airlines vs a humanitarian flight. Is spirit listing of regular flights legit or just an attempt to get you to pay, cancel, keep your money.[/QUOTE]

I have seen the SA word but have no clue. Fb, tinder, tagged yes. But SA is new to me. What does it mean?

Spirit has its problems, but I will say this about them. When my flight was impacted by COVID-19, they refunded my money automatically. I did not have to ask. Can't say the same for Delta, AA, Copa, and Jet Blue. All of them only offered credit (I know I could fight for cash, but I'll use all of the credits any way).

The humanitarian flight is a "one time" flight (not regularly scheduled) designed to get people back to their home country.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455524]What is the difference between a regular flight on spirit airlines vs a humanitarian flight. Is spirit listing of regular flights legit or just an attempt to get you to pay, cancel, keep your money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455439]I've been chatting up a new FB, IG and tagged chicas in medellin. I speak native spanish and I'm 40. They are all. Good and down to fuck as soon as I get there and I do this pregame coaxing to weed out which I will get the most from. Swallow, anal, bareback videos shit like that. But when its all discussed and sorted out they all say can you send me money for food. That kills it. They say they haven't eaten in days. I say (just to test them) ill send you a uber eats and they decline. They want money. Shit these hoes all doing this shit. Last 5 have asked me that. I always tell them listen let me just hit you up when I get there. I'm not going to pay for nothing.[/QUOTE]I think a lot chicas are financially hurting with sources of income dried up. That said, the Uber eats may get them one meal, but 1 mil in cash will feed a family of 5 for a week with groceries. Also, they may have other necessities like weed, tussi etc. LOL.

Things are different from normal right now, but definitely, more and more chicas will hit up for money now, as they know, tourists won't be back till September.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455524]What is the difference between a regular flight on spirit airlines vs a humanitarian flight.[/QUOTE]For a humanitarian flgiht you would have to go through the embassy: dial 12025014444 and enroll in STEP via travel. State. Gov.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455545]I have seen the SA word but have no clue. Fb, tinder, tagged yes. But SA is new to me. What does it mean?[/QUOTE][URL]Seeking.com[/URL] is a website for sugar daddy sugar baby hookups. It's not free exchange like tinder. But it's not straight up money exchange like pros. It's somewhere in the middle. You meet girls and agree to date with sex very probable if you have any game at all. And $$ on the backend as a "gift" for a nice date.

In the US it's the only way to meet quality girls IMO. It is my go to in the US. There is a thread for it now. It's pretty active so you should see it I. The top daily feeds.

This is not completely accurate. The embassy is sponsoring the flights and notifying people who register to STEP. To book the flight you must use the spirit web site. It is the place to go to see availability and to arrange for travel. As of this morning there are no available seats. As I wrote earlier, Spirit has been adding flights at the rate of two per week since the start of the quarantine.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2455566]For a humanitarian flgiht you would have to go through the embassy: dial 12025014444 and enroll in STEP via travel. State. Gov.[/QUOTE]

I have minimal Spirit experience. I used them briefly for schedule reasons when I was based in a secondary market a few years back. I confirm 100% what you said about American and I had the same experience with Avianca. I went through American and got my refund. Avianca I dealt with differently for the same result.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2455551]Spirit has its problems, but I will say this about them. When my flight was impacted by COVID-19, they refunded my money automatically. I did not have to ask. Can't say the same for Delta, AA, Copa, and Jet Blue. All of them only offered credit (I know I could fight for cash, but I'll use all of the credits any way).

The humanitarian flight is a "one time" flight (not regularly scheduled) designed to get people back to their home country.[/QUOTE]

Slapshot10.80%+ of the time the brother is the girls boyfriend. Anyone monger letting the girl bring any guy into his place is an idiot. Glad you are not an idiot.

Nclpimp. Waste of time chatting except for practice. You are 3+ months away from being here. This far out they will promise you the world. Actually they will promise you the world when you are here too. By the time you actually get here they will have disappeared. Start 2 weeks prior to liftoff.

Colombialover. Spirit refunded my return portion 2 weeks after my flight was cancelled.

Blakman. STEP sends you information on flights from Colombia to USA. It also sends you President Duque's announcements of what is opening and when based on his speeches. You do not have to enroll in STEP but do have to be USA citizen. Just go to [URL]Spirit.com[/URL] and search "monthly view" and buy online. There are several leaving this month. Plus, a new one just posted last minute. This one is using VIVA Airlines and in going to Chicago. June 6 from Bogota.

To so many of you guys 70%+ Sorry but the 3-somes you think you are having with sisters is just that. Thinking / wishing. So many times sitting at bars in the Philippines. The guy sitting at the stage would see two girl chatting and would ask if they were sisters and they always say YES! The girls notice how the guys eyes light up like Christmas trees when told they are sisters and that they can almost always talk the guy into a 3-some if they say they are sisters even when looking nothing alike. I mention this because the brother is a boyfriend story above reminded me of this. If you are so sure. Ask for an ID.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455439]I've been chatting up a new FB, IG and tagged chicas in medellin. I speak native spanish and I'm 40. They are all. Good and down to fuck as soon as I get there and I do this pregame coaxing to weed out which I will get the most from. Swallow, anal, bareback videos shit like that. But when its all discussed and sorted out they all say can you send me money for food. That kills it. They say they haven't eaten in days. I say (just to test them) ill send you a uber eats and they decline. They want money. Shit these hoes all doing this shit. Last 5 have asked me that. I always tell them listen let me just hit you up when I get there. I'm not going to pay for nothing.[/QUOTE]Normally in that situation I would get maybe 1 out of 10 that would be asking for money upfront before they even meet me, but I suspect that it is a more desperate situation down there right now, they have very few gringos around to go make money on dates with and on top of that their movements are literally have been suppressed by the government to where they can only get out once a week I think, so even dates with locals is hardly an option. Normally I would just hear this shit from 1 out of 10 chicas and the rest usually do not ask for money up front.

I normally don't even contact theses chicas until a week before a trip, but I have a regular chica that I see a lot of while I am there, she has been isolated, and I have been sending her like 20 usd every few weeks to buy food for her small children because I know her well enough and know that she will make it up to me.

I like your flexibility though Slapshot. How you go from spending 400 mil on a chica and then dip to 12 mil. I would think the baller in you would say here's 100 mil. I think that makes you the top gringo in Medellin right now. Being so flexible is a gift. LOL

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2455433]21 yo SA girl just left. She has a twin sister and a 19 yo sister. Such a cute face, nice hair, great smile. Her body isn't a 10, but it was good enough. Definitely not fat or any other issues. We started making the sangria right away. Her English is about as good as my Spanish, so we could easily converse all night. She used translator once. Anyway, how refreshing to have a date, and be vibing. She cut the fruit and made the sangria, as I BBQd the chicken and steamed the rice. After the sangria, she wanted to try the Zacapa. We drank quite a bit. Not necessarily for me, but for her, certainly.

I knew it was headed in the right direction. She made a few comments that showed her hand. She gave some salsa lessons, and I played along. Eventually, I lean in and it's game on. We finally decide to go up to the jacuzzi. It was about 2 mins in the jacuzzi before she was on top of me, another 2 mins before my trunks were off. She made a comment about a condom, and I don't even know my response but basically blew it off. She was a little toothy, at first, but gave good head. Took it all the way, used her hand, and it was the type of passion you don't always get with a pro. I returned the favor, propping her up on the corner, and I thought she was going to cum right away. It maybe took 10 mins, end then I knew she had forgotten anything about a condom. I had her come down and give me head again, and then put her back in her spot. It felt great. Nice, tight, and wet. I ended up turning her around, and finished in her mouth. She traced the path of my cum with her finger, showing me she had swallowed it.

We sipped our rum & cokes, listened to some music, and then as I was banging her a second time, her mom called. She messaged back she was on her way. It was almost 12. We made our wade to the bed. In the jacuzzi, I was having trouble getting fully hard. Probably a combo of the trifecta: alcohol, re-whatever time, and heat / dehydration. Anyway, to the bed for 69. Fantastic view. Not a hair in sight. She tongued my culo, without coercing. Got hard, and she rode for a bit. I noticed she was watching herself in the mirror, which was kind of hot. I flipped her over and had her feet on my chest, taking all I could give. I turned her over, pencil form, and she seemed to like that. Maybe new to her, not sure. I finished on her back. She nibbled on some chocolate I bought her, and asked for an Uber / Didi. All in all, I believe it is about (oh fuck. I just realized I didn't give her money for the Didi) the Uber was 11 k. I meant to give her 20 k for Didi, because Uber didn't connect with anyone at 1215 a. My bad. So, all in all, 11 k + chicken, rice, chocolate, fruit, wine, & rum. So, in short, more than Blakman usually pays. Fuck, I can't win.

It was a great change of pace type of night. Passionate. She seems like the type that probably bangs a few gringos a year, just so she can speak some English, and escape her school / family for a night.

I'll probably see her again. Definitely if these Paisas keep up their bullshit of unannounced cancellations, overpricing, stupid rules, etc etc.

Next up, Wifey and her hot not-so-lesbian friend. They moved up our meet to 4 p, tomorrow. So, probably going to work for a bit, 2 p haircut, workout, and then they'll be here.[/QUOTE].

Yesterday I hinted to a possible 3 some with the 8 and we approved of a girl I had a previous 3 some with. I am thinking this is going to be good. Prior to the arrangement the 8 says she is leaving the following day for an appointment in which I said take your suitcase with you. Anyways it's getting close to the 3 some and 8 says I am not participating. If you give me money sure. I say how much. She says 100 mil. My thought process was I have fucked you too many times to give you additional money. The treat was getting you to participate for free. Anyways she kept insisting I could invite the girl but she's not participating. My thought process was I fucked the other girl twice it's no treat fucking her solo. So I decided to cancel and I am pissed with the 8. The other girl knew of her and really wanted to get it on in a 3 some. The 8 goes upstairs and I stay downstairs. She then comes to the steps and ask where is the girl. I say I cancelled. She's like you could have invited her I would have stayed downstairs. Upsets me more. Later she comes downstairs and flirts with me shaking her ass with a short one piece dress she had on for tic toc. She walks upstairs still flirting. I walk upstairs to see what's up. My mind says pull out your dick and put it by her mouth. I do It and she sucks it a little bit. I grab her by the head and she sucks some more. When I look between her legs I see no panties. My mind says this ***** wants to get fucked. I fuck her missionary and fucke her hard. Staring at her pretty ass and hearing her screams. My mind is made up. I am upset so I am going to come in her mouth. I stroke some more just staring at her beauty and bring my dick to her mouth to unload. Except. I don't know other guys experience this but sometimes you nut and it's not a complete nut. And you can regroup and go for a second nut without rest. So I continued stroking my cock and the second nut came spraying it on her pretty face. She seem so happy after she cleaned up. The other girl text me asking what's up. So I showed the 8 the text thinking she was going to tell her to come but she text her back saying no. So we just chilled for the night. Fell asleep. So morning came. Her alarm went off and she went to bathroom to get herself together so I realized she was leaving. In translation app I wrote you really should not be leaving til Thursday. Not really good business. Also I ran downtown stairs and took out 150 mil to put on the table. She ask for 200 mil. I told her I was expecting her to leave Thursday I only have 150 mil and won't get to an ATM til the evening. She ask for taxi money and I said 150 mil is all I have. I told the potero I pay you Thursday. When I mentioned potero she eased off trying to get more money than the 150 mil. She did say I do not know why you are acting like a child the 300 mil you give me for 7 days is nothing. I get that in 10 minutes from a client. I said well technically you have only been here 5 days. So the true deal is 5 days 250 mil. She accepted and gave me several warm hugs as if she new we were not going to meet up again. I feel like I fucked her alot and spent good amount of time with her to move on to new and younger pussy. So she got in the cab and the end LOL.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455613]She did say I do not know why you are acting like a child the 300 mil you give me for 7 days is nothing. I get that in 10 minutes from a client. I said well technically you have only been here 5 days. So the true deal is 5 days 250 mil. She accepted and gave me several warm hugs as if she new we were not going to meet up again. I feel like I fucked her alot and spent good amount of time with her to move on to new and younger pussy. So she got in the cab and the end LOL.[/QUOTE]You are 100% the guy who gets dinner with four buddies, everyone is having a good time, so you all get drinks, appetizers, entrees and the bill comes to $150 even. Instead of just splitting it $30 each like a normal person, you point out that you only had one beer and one mozzarella stick but everyone else had two, therefore you should pay $3. 34 less, plus your tip amount will be less too because you owe $3. 34 less than everyone else.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455613]So the true deal is 5 days 250 mil. She accepted and gave me several warm hugs as if she new we were not going to meet up again. I feel like I fucked her alot and spent good amount of time with her to move on to new and younger pussy. So she got in the cab and the end LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for coming back and sharing how the story ended (a lot of people post questions and stuff leading up to the event, but then don't report back).

I am the guy who declines to go then one of the guys will say I got you and say okay. Lmao

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2455617]You are 100% the guy who gets dinner with four buddies, everyone is having a good time, so you all get drinks, appetizers, entrees and the bill comes to $150 even. Instead of just splitting it $30 each like a normal person, you point out that you only had one beer and one mozzarella stick but everyone else had two, therefore you should pay $3. 34 less, plus your tip amount will be less too because you owe $3. 34 less than everyone else.[/QUOTE].

This is funny. I didn't even remember I have their contact details in my phone. I just now received a grand reopening announcement on whatsapp from Paradise on 54th near carrera 42. They will re-Open Thursday.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2455407]If your in California you really don't need to go far. The Tijuana Mexico street scene is alive and well, and I know guys that go down every weekend, but it's not like Colombia, not even close, but is inexpensive compared to the FKK's in Germany. I went to the one in Berlin last October, and wasn't really impressed, but did get to walk around wearing a bath-robe as though I was Hugh Hefner![/QUOTE]Appreciate the recommendation, the additional cost in Europe is not an issue for me, I doubt I will find what I want in Mexico, Medellin has set the standard for Latina pussy too high for me. You probably went to Artemis in Berlin, it's definitely in the mid to low end of FKK. The best ones in terms facilities are in Frankfurt, in terms of girls, FKK globe is the best hands down.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2455617]You are 100% the guy who gets dinner with four buddies, everyone is having a good time, so you all get drinks, appetizers, entrees and the bill comes to $150 even. Instead of just splitting it $30 each like a normal person, you point out that you only had one beer and one mozzarella stick but everyone else had two, therefore you should pay $3. 34 less, plus your tip amount will be less too because you owe $3. 34 less than everyone else.[/QUOTE]This nitpicking on a bill when with friends has always been a pet peeve of mine. The other side of the coin is there is always one guy who expecting the bill to be split will always order the most expensive items but when eating alone will never get those when he has to pay for them himself.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2455363]Globe (Switzerland) and its sister clubs are having a rolling opening this month. Twice German prices but the only game in town. And SJobs you know Globe is worth a few bucks for that service level.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, Globe is definitely worth the extra dollar, it is still cheaper than the US by a long shot. I know Germany is plan to open, but I'm not sure if Switzerland will open. I might have to settle with Oase or the world.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455633]I am the guy who declines to go then one of the guys will say I got you and say okay. Lmao.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised anyone would ever invite you to join them. Hopefully your joking in what you've posted, but it very well could be your not.

Touting being a "cheap charlie" can rub both ways as evidenced by all the posts.

I don't pretend to be what I am not. I am as honest and genuine as can be. I am not a puzzle to many. People respect my integrity it trumps my cheapy charlie. Why you think the 8 gave me 7 days for 300 mil. She recognized those qualities and said hes safe. Let me have a good time with him and make up the difference with the guy who is more free with his money. I didn't come to Colombia or text on this site to make friends. Cheapy charlie Charley help me get to Colombia and certainly made me survive 3 months and maybe 6 months here. I know what works for me and you focus on what works for you.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2455666]I'm surprised anyone would ever invite you to join them. Hopefully your joking in what you've posted, but it very well could be your not.

Touting being a "cheap charlie" can rub both ways as evidenced by all the posts.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2455648]This is funny. I didn't even remember I have their contact details in my phone. I just now received a grand reopening announcement on whatsapp from Paradise on 54th near carrera 42. They will re-Open Thursday.[/QUOTE]HooRay! I wish the strip clubs would re-open. Probably not until the gyms open too. Luckily, I always try to get digits from my favorites. They are out of work for many weeks now.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455742]I don't pretend to be what I am not. I am as honest and genuine as can be. I am not a puzzle to many. People respect my integrity it trumps my cheapy charlie. Why you think the 8 gave me 7 days for 300 mil. She recognized those qualities and said hes safe. Let me have a good time with him and make up the difference with the guy who is more free with his money. I didn't come to Colombia or text on this site to make friends. Cheapy charlie Charley help me get to Colombia and certainly made me survive 3 months and maybe 6 months here. I know what works for me and you focus on what works for you..[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone questions you being honest or genuine, it's evident in your posts, and refreshing yet amusing at times as to how you roll, and everybody rolls different.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2455648]This is funny. I didn't even remember I have their contact details in my phone. I just now received a grand reopening announcement on whatsapp from Paradise on 54th near carrera 42. They will re-Open Thursday.[/QUOTE]Is there a running talley on which cases are open? I rode by New Life and a few others a couple of days ago and they appeared to be closed.

I'm not aware of a running tally but there is some information in this forum you could read. New Life is closed as far as I know.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2455801]Is there a running talley on which cases are open? I rode by New Life and a few others a couple of days ago and they appeared to be closed.[/QUOTE]

It is a wise tactic to get phone numbers. They can really come in handy.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2455769]HooRay! I wish the strip clubs would re-open. Probably not until the gyms open too. Luckily, I always try to get digits from my favorites. They are out of work for many weeks now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2455742]I don't pretend to be what I am not. I am as honest and genuine as can be. I am not a puzzle to many. People respect my integrity it trumps my cheapy charlie. Why you think the 8 gave me 7 days for 300 mil. She recognized those qualities and said hes safe. Let me have a good time with him and make up the difference with the guy who is more free with his money. I didn't come to Colombia or text on this site to make friends. Cheapy charlie Charley help me get to Colombia and certainly made me survive 3 months and maybe 6 months here. I know what works for me and you focus on what works for you.
[/QUOTE]Keep up the good reports. I learned things from it. I think the 8 likes you.

Do you know of any better love hotels than the el centro pits operating again?

Most of the places on la 33 are open.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2455831]Do you know of any better love hotels than the el centro pits operating again?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2455831]Do you know of any better love hotels than the el centro pits operating again?[/QUOTE]My go-to place in centro (Hotel Palmetto) remained open most of the time, I used it twice with the last visit being about 3 weeks ago. It is not a LOVE MOTEL per se but they do rent the rooms by like a 2 to 3 hour time block and the cost is good at about 20 mil depending on the day. Clean enough and they do have Jacuzzi rooms but more cost.

The Tall Man.

You all remember her? Long dark hair, fake boobs. Love to smoke weed. She had 2 kids. She was shot with her sicario BF yesterday and left for dead in the middle of the street. Sad life.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2455803]I'm not aware of a running tally but there is some information in this forum you could read. New Life is closed as far as I know.[/QUOTE]I'll probably head downtown Friday or Saturday and see what I can find out.

Same Pucca who frequented the Mansion and had a temper (breaking a glass on some chica's head)? If so, I remember her. And in her day, she could provide good service.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455845]You all remember her? Long dark hair, fake boobs. Love to smoke weed. She had 2 kids. She was shot with her sicario BF yesterday and left for dead in the middle of the street. Sad life.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455845]You all remember her? Long dark hair, fake boobs. Love to smoke weed. She had 2 kids. She was shot with her sicario BF yesterday and left for dead in the middle of the street. Sad life.[/QUOTE]I saw the video of this. Wifey said she knew the girl. They got their nails done at the same salon, or something. I asked what happened and she said she's from Bello and probably lipped off to the wrong people. Pretty crazy, but I guess so is the US, right now.

So, I got the hair trimmed-up, and got back around 245 p, yesterday. Wifey arrived maybe an hour later. She said she had bad news. Her friend hadn't responded, since last night. She was kind of pissed, actually, but she looked super cute with a halter top, tight jeans, fresh kicks, straightened hair, and a touch of makeup / perfume. So, we both went to work. I had a repeat girl that I offered 200 k. She said 200 k + taxis / one pop. I said that's crazy if there are three of us and we plan to be partying for awhile. So, that came to a screeching halt. I was actually surprised that we were both stubborn enough to make that happen, but oh well. I had some feelers out, but nothing really happening. Wifey starts celebrating; another girl she showed me the day before wanted to come. 200 k + taxis. She was even better looking in person! Her taxi driver got lost, then refused to keep searching. It's fucking amazing how terrible paisas are with directions / geography. I was so annoyed. I sent Wifey directions from Carulla to my building, to forward to the friend. Still no. Wifey ended up going to Carulla to meet her friend and bring her back.

Anyway, standard procedure. She had an amazing body and was really into it. Her pussy was so fucking wet in the jacuzzi, I was amazed. Wifey brought me a condom and round one was with her friend in the jacuzzi. She was a moaner. We started by me propping her up on the corner and going down on her. She then told me to stand up so she could return the favor. Neither of them give great head, but it's ok. Round 2 was with both of them. Actually, Round 2 I didn't cum. Wifey was begging me to cum, even though I was banging her friend. Condom, heat, dehydration, yada yada. I pulled the condom off and went to town on Wifey until she quit. They wanted me to put another condom on and fuck the friend, again. There was too much talk, etc. , and I just threw in the towel. Round 3 was both of them, again. I was surprised I came, using the condom. Wifey was manually helping get her friend off, who was getting pretty loud with the moaning, this time. Eventually, we all go to sleep in the same bed.

Surprisingly, the friend broke the code, and told me we need to exchange numbers. So, I have that in my back pocket. She got hungry in the middle of the night, so we heated up some chicken breast and rice for her. Wifey cut the chicken into pieces for her. I thought it was just a bit strange, but figured Wifey thought the girl was too fucked up. Wifey calls me to the bedroom, and proceeds to explain to me not to laugh because the girl doesn't know how to use a knife. I don't even know what else to say. I guess she is a low-income family type that just doesn't have silverware or never uses it. I'll probably repeat with her, at some point. She was very complimentary, very passionate, and had a smoking tight little body. Her and Wifey are the same height, but Wifey has that thick ass that is fun to pound, while this chick is like a cheerleader body. Round 4 was this morning in the shower with Wifey. Thank god sans condom, because she tried to quit on me twice. I had to mentally get in the zone. The doggy wasn't working for me. I had her pull a knee up, and fucked her from the front, it felt way better.

The freebie off SA has been messaging non-stop. She's cool but maybe a little needy. She asked why I left her on Read, last night. I didn't have it in me to explain it was because I was balls-deep in two paisas. I'll see her again, soon, on a night where I want to bang but not really party. She does like to drink, though.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2455866]Anyway, standard procedure. She had an amazing body and was really into it. Her pussy was so fucking wet in the jacuzzi, I was amazed. Wifey brought me a condom and round one was with her friend in the jacuzzi. [/QUOTE]Great post. You have found a nice one or two. I think it's funny she even bothered with the bikini in the first place.

I am reading all your reports over the girls you are getting and the price you are paying so I figured I'the drop some knowledge on what I'm paying in the states. It's really quite simple I make $20 k a month and my wife has access to all of it and I'm lucky to get laid 10 x month haha. Anyways I figured you guys would get a laugh out of that. I can't wait for the travel bans to be lifted so I can get back to working in person in Colombia, Thailand, and the Philippines. Stay happy, fuck quif and stop trying to turn hoes to housewives.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455845]You all remember her? Long dark hair, fake boobs. Love to smoke weed. She had 2 kids. She was shot with her sicario BF yesterday and left for dead in the middle of the street. Sad life.[/QUOTE]Is this the Pucca you are talking about?

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455845]You all remember her? Long dark hair, fake boobs. Love to smoke weed. She had 2 kids. She was shot with her sicario BF yesterday and left for dead in the middle of the street. Sad life.[/QUOTE]Yes, I remember her. I met her a number of times at the mansion but never had a session with her. One year, I took a wingman with me and he fell for her. She liked him too apparently. They spent quite a bit of time together in his only visit to Medellin. After that, he always asked me about her. I just gave hime the news today of her untimely death. Very sad! And she left behind 2 young children.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2455891]Is this the Pucca you are talking about?[/QUOTE]Thats her.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2455909]Thats her.[/QUOTE]Pucca Garcia? She was mansion girl with Katy Velz and Pao.

Zapata and others.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=688020572030668[/URL]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2455938]Pucca Garcia? She was mansion girl with Katy Velz and Pao.

Zapata and others.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=688020572030668[/URL][/QUOTE]Katy Velz? Now there is a name I have not heard in the past few years! Anyone know what she up to these days?

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2455938]Pucca Garcia? She was mansion girl with Katy Velz and Pao.

Zapata and others.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=688020572030668[/URL][/QUOTE]Sad yes but this is their life. Live fast and die young. Two kids left behind but just normal stuff that goes on in bello.

Watch how quickly she bleeds out, ouch as soon as she hits the ground, in literally seconds.

Guys listen up, anyone of us could have been in the car with this gal and her bum boyfriend so careful out there.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2455961]Katy Velz? Now there is a name I have not heard in the past few years! Anyone know what she up to these days?[/QUOTE][URL]https://instagram.com/mavel03[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2455971]Sad yes but this is their life. Live fast and die young. Two kids left behind but just normal stuff that goes on in bello.

Watch how quickly she bleeds out, ouch as soon as she hits the ground, in literally seconds.

Guys listen up, anyone of us could have been in the car with this gal and her bum boyfriend so careful out there.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]What happened to boyfriend was that him running in the vid.

Is there recommendations where to stay in Bello?

Since many of the girls are coming from that part of town some have.

Among eres and stayed in Bello.

[QUOTE=AdamCastro1986;2455887].......... Stay happy, fuck quif and stop trying to turn hoes to housewives.[/QUOTE]Yep, the more mongers who turn hoes to housewives the less hoes for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2455991]What happened to boyfriend was that him running in the vid.

Is there recommendations where to stay in Bello?

Since many of the girls are coming from that part of town some have.

Among eres and stayed in Bello.[/QUOTE]Where to stay in Bello? Somewhere that's not in Bello.

There are 2 very good reasons why Bello isn't a good idea.

While a lot of the girls come from Bello, in Bello most aren't hookers. They're friends, neighbors, cousins, classmates. All the people around them can ignore where the girls get their money, as long as they're doing it somewhere else. If they're whoring right next door, the nice girl next door who goes to the store for you becomes a working girl who might try to fuck your husband and take his money.

The second reason is, most mongers want to survive their trips. You park yourself in Bello and start running 3 girls a day through your door and pretty soon someone is going to ask you for a charitable donation, probably forcefully.

Your best bet is to either go where the girls already are working, El Centro, or go where the girls want to be working, Poblado or Laureles.

Articles, drug selling business.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2455990][URL]https://instagram.com/mavel03[/URL][/QUOTE]She was wifed by a gringo and taken home to the United States. He made sure to feed here the finest foods for dinner. Lots of fast food burgers fries and extra large drinks for lunch, and he made sure after she sucked the cream filling out of his cannoli she was fed a proper breakfast burrito. Her poor diet now prevents her from having any sex drive and she knows that she does not have to fuck to get his money now and if she gets tired of him she can take half his shit and live like a queen in Colombia in about five years from now. She hangs out with the females who scream that their men should treat them like queens and then treat their men like an ATM and a handy man. She learns that the real beauty about being a woman in America is she can join almost any group of women and can find a new way to treat her Husband who brought her from the slums of Colombia like he is the worst man in the existence of this world. When they fight she reminds him that he was a pig who paid for sex with her until he wanted a wife and then he keeps her from achieving the best life possible because he holds her back. In case you have not realized I'm full of shit. I don't know this Instagram girl. I just wanted to high light the toxic females we have at home and I openly encourage younger men and my teens to travel to were prostitution is legal before wasting their time trying to find a wife at home. I hope this had some of you laughing! Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2455971]Sad yes but this is their life. Live fast and die young. Two kids left behind but just normal stuff that goes on in bello.

Watch how quickly she bleeds out, ouch as soon as she hits the ground, in literally seconds.

Guys listen up, anyone of us could have been in the car with this gal and her bum boyfriend so careful out there.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Looks like she never got around to fixing her teeth.

[QUOTE=SuperTramp;2455874]Great post. You have found a nice one or two. I think it's funny she even bothered with the bikini in the first place.[/QUOTE]We like to keep it classy.

SURFER500, et al.

My manager girl told me this morning (keep in mind my lease is up tomorrow) that they offer is $80/ day for one month, or $73/ day for 2 months. Now, for the past 48 days, it was $50/ day. She said they have received a lot of interest in the apartment, recently.

I think it's bullshit. She ended by saying if I have an offer, she will happily run it to the owner. I told her I think that's fairly ridiculous. Now, that being said, I certainly don't want to spend my next 24 hours searching for a new apartment, packing, etc. I have enough sauces and condiments to fill a trash bag, alone.

So, since I do not have a set departure date, and really no interest to leave.

Should I simply offer the equivalent of $50/ night? SURFER500, you previously advocated for that. I'm wondering if anyone has been keeping an eye on AirBnB, recently. I have not. My first impression would be that tourists / businessmen have been leaving, with no replacements arriving. Thus, shouldn't the renters being controlling the current market, and be in a position to negotiate? Why would a gringo penthouse owner want to risk a week or months of an unpaid vacant apartment, to gouge me for an extra few hundred per month?

I'm open to all opinions on this, I just want to feel comfortable with what I offer, because there is no time to bullshit, and I have no desire to go back and forth.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456062]I'm open to all opinions on this, I just want to feel comfortable with what I offer, because there is no time to bullshit, and I have no desire to go back and forth.[/QUOTE]I would go to AirBnB to find a place similar to yours. I think it won't be hard to find something but maybe without hot tube, to speed things up, set the price to above $1000 and other comparable options to rent for a month. Then I will offer them a price with the AirBnB as backup and use it as bargain chip.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456062]We like to keep it classy.

SURFER500, et al.

My manager girl told me this morning (keep in mind my lease is up tomorrow) that they offer is $80/ day for one month, or $73/ day for 2 months. Now, for the past 48 days, it was $50/ day. She said they have received a lot of interest in the apartment, recently.

I think it's bullshit. She ended by saying if I have an offer, she will happily run it to the owner. I told her I think that's fairly ridiculous. Now, that being said, I certainly don't want to spend my next 24 hours searching for a new apartment, packing, etc. I have enough sauces and condiments to fill a trash bag, alone.

So, since I do not have a set departure date, and really no interest to leave..[/QUOTE]I've only been to Medellin once but I travel a lot for work and book abnb whenever I travel. In short your assessment is correct. In situations like this they should be trying to keep what they have. I am not currently in Medellin, but I do know how to gauge properties. Yes they can get $100 USD a day for a penthouse when it is busy. My penthouse that I own in San Antonio would have cost me roughly $3000 dollars to own with a mortgage if I did not buy it cash. The same would be true for both my houses in central California if I did not do the same. In short yes they can ask for a little more depending on if he is operating at a loss having you there at $50 a day. I was looking at some penthouses to buy on my next trip to Medellin and the price range for the ones I looked at was between $400 k- $700 k. I'm not sure what the owner paid for his penthouse, but if he did not buy it in cash renting it at $50 a day is an automatic loss. Offer what you feel you can afford for the penthouse and if they say no move on. I'm not sure about your financial situation, but if an extra $900 a month is going to make you this nervous then maybe you should downgrade or find another penthouse that has been vacant since covid-19 lockdown. People who have zero coming in will definitely perk up at a chance to make that zero go to $1500 a month or even $2000 usd a month. Don't get blinded by the comfort of staying static where you are. Whenever you rent you must always be in the mindset of being ready to move on because the owner of the rental property is banking on you not wanting uproot your life. They will make small increases every time they revisit you for a contract extension. It will boil down to whether you want to stand your ground and not let it raise or if they raised it small enough to get you to be content with the new terms. I hope this helps. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456062]We like to keep it classy.

SURFER500, et al.

My manager girl told me this morning (keep in mind my lease is up tomorrow) that they offer is $80/ day for one month, or $73/ day for 2 months. Now, for the past 48 days, it was $50/ day. She said they have received a lot of interest in the apartment, recently.

I think it's bullshit. She ended by saying if I have an offer, she will happily run it to the owner. I told her I think that's fairly ridiculous. Now, that being said, I certainly don't want to spend my next 24 hours searching for a new apartment, packing, etc. I have enough sauces and condiments to fill a trash bag, alone.

So, since I do not have a set departure date, and really no interest to leave..[/QUOTE]I would go to the Casacol website and look at comparable properties to gauge what the rates are, however what I do know for a fact is that they have lot of vacancies, and potential renters are currently making low ball offers to owners.

From the pictures you've posted (besides all your cream pie honey's) , having a large balcony and / or Terraza along with a Hot-tub, and views is somewhat rare and very sought after by renters, if that is the case, there may be some actual interest by others.

If you leave, the owner will incur some cleaning costs, and may have some deferred maintenance issues, etc so having you stay is to their benefit. So if you think you might be around for at least another three months, and will agree to this in writing, I would offer the $ 50 a night for this entire period. I am assuming that your in a building that has a thirty day minimum rental period versus an apartment that can rent by the day and / or week which is very rare. If that is the case, the $ 73 a day is a bargain during normal times for that type of property, but the owner will have a lot of turnover, vacancy time, cleaning costs, etc. So having a long term tenant is in his best interest, versus trying to squeeze a few hundred extra dollars out of you unless somebody is actually looking to rent for an extended period of time.

My three part strategy would be:

1. Immediately begin looking for a replacement apartment and have it at the ready.

2. Offer $45/ day for where you are but accept no deal of more than $50/ day.

3. Remind myself throughout the negotiation that the owner is looking to secure any deal that will cover expenses for as long as possible through the end of August.

The worst case scenario for you would be the inconvenience of a move. I think you will have little trouble finding a comparable apartment for the same price or less. It is very much a short term renter's market. The owner is trying to get you (by raising your rate) or someone else to cover costs until the tourists are back. As you say, once you leave that apartment becomes one more Poblado white elephant amongst a pile of others you see every day on facebook gringo sites and airbnb.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456062]We like to keep it classy.

SURFER500, et al.

My manager girl told me this morning (keep in mind my lease is up tomorrow) that they offer is $80/ day for one month, or $73/ day for 2 months. Now, for the past 48 days, it was $50/ day. She said they have received a lot of interest in the apartment, recently.

I think it's bullshit. She ended by saying if I have an offer, she will happily run it to the owner. I told her I think that's fairly ridiculous. Now, that being said, I certainly don't want to spend my next 24 hours searching for a new apartment, packing, etc. I have enough sauces and condiments to fill a trash bag, alone.

So, since I do not have a set departure date, and really no interest to leave..[/QUOTE]

Glad to report Meddy is back!! Lot's of available talent around. These next 3 months should be interesting with the boarders closed. Casas are opening back up as well as I got handed a couple of casa cards downtown. Might be the best time to be in Medellin in a good while.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2455990][URL]https://instagram.com/mavel03[/URL][/QUOTE]Some girls do not appreciate or know how to manage their "pretty. ".

There is a self-destructive impulse behind getting so many tattoos you look like a graffiti encrusted New York subway car during the 1970's, the "Predator" hairstyle, and the bowling ball smuggling butt.

Or.

My tastes were set in another era.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456062]We like to keep it classy.

SURFER500, et al.

My manager girl told me this morning (keep in mind my lease is up tomorrow) that they offer is $80/ day for one month, or $73/ day for 2 months. Now, for the past 48 days, it was $50/ day. She said they have received a lot of interest in the apartment, recently.

I think it's bullshit. She ended by saying if I have an offer, she will happily run it to the owner. I told her I think that's fairly ridiculous. Now, that being said, I certainly don't want to spend my next 24 hours searching for a new apartment, packing, etc. I have enough sauces and condiments to fill a trash bag, alone.

So, since I do not have a set departure date, and really no interest to leave.

Should I simply offer the equivalent of $50/ night? SURFER500, you previously advocated for that. I'm wondering if anyone has been keeping an eye on AirBnB, recently. I have not. My first impression would be that tourists / businessmen have been leaving, with no replacements arriving. Thus, shouldn't the renters being controlling the current market, and be in a position to negotiate? Why would a gringo penthouse owner want to risk a week or months of an unpaid vacant apartment, to gouge me for an extra few hundred per month?.[/QUOTE]The chance of the owner getting another long term rental right now is slim. He might have some interested in weekend rentals, but I doubt he's got a 1 or 2 month customer on standby.

His costs go up with you there, but probably only about 250-300 k per month. Which to me says you're holding the reins. Toss him a 2 month deal for $2400 with the option to extend to 3 months at an additional $1500. He's unlikely to pull in anywhere near that amount right now and it means he avoids all the cleaning fees from short term rentals.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2453701]Well I agreed on the 7 day 300 mil. But I couldn't resist saying 300 mil 30 days sounds much better. Her response was if I behave she would stay longer. She then asked should she bring clothes and I said yes. So we were scheduled to link Tuesday but she said aunt is coming in town (hmmm) Wednesday. But then she text 27 to 2nd. That's 6 days to me. Not sure if that was honest mistake or what. She's a bit MIA today since convo. I going to chill relax so it can go down rather than go south. So that's were we are at.[/QUOTE]How much is 300 mil in USD?

You are not. I agree (although I know lots of guys who seem to love the tats). I can live with a small tatoo or two that is tastefully. But so many of these girls has 1) too many, 2) ones that are not well-done, and / or 3) that are too large / not in the right spot. For example, I hate the big tattos on a girl's leg. Or a sleeve. Or anything on their ass, including the "fuck you" tat one puta has. To me, these girls just scream ghetto. And I also agree with the weird haircuts some of them have.

But to each his own. Hopefully there will always be enough to go around to please everyone's tastes.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2456116]Some girls do not appreciate or know how to manage their "pretty. ".

There is a self-destructive impulse behind getting so many tattoos you look like a graffiti encrusted New York subway car during the 1970's, the "Predator" hairstyle, and the bowling ball smuggling butt.

Or.

My tastes were set in another era.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456062]She said they have received a lot of interest in the apartment, recently.

I think it's bullshit. She ended by saying if I have an offer, she will happily run it to the owner.

I'm open to all opinions on this, I just want to feel comfortable with what I offer, because there is no time to bullshit, and I have no desire to go back and forth.[/QUOTE]That is absolutely bullshit. Where do they allege that this influx of interest is coming from? All of the outbound "humanitarian" flights are sold out and nobody is inbound.

$50/ night for your place is right where it needs to be.

Property owners on the facebook expat / housing groups are desperate for occupants.

I'm paying $18 per night for a nice and new 1 br in Laureles on the 17th floor with great views. There are cheaper than this for sure, but it's nicer than average.

Well as I've said here a few times, I was shacked up with my Paisa amigovia (FWB) in Prado Centro for the quarantine. We were expecting four weeks but it turned into ten so on the first day of easing things up, Monday, I moved into my own apartment in Laureles. Things are actually pretty free here as far as transit, but we had agreed to cohabitate for the duration of the quarantine.

Tuesday morning, a Venezolana from Parque Berrio flaked on me, right as another Venezolana, Adriana, a flaca who works Plaza Botero, messaged me. She's been very flirty and talking dirty with me every time that we talked in Botero and I was intrigued by her dirty talk. So I headed in to finally find out what she's all about. Nothing special, in my opinion, it turns out. But it was good to be with a new girl.

Wednesday I was back at Botero. Estefania is a tiny little Afro Colombiana from Sabaneta who works the plaza. I negotiated for an hour together, emphasis on oral. We arrived at the short time hotel but her performance was less than inspiring, she kept wanting to fuck and not continue with the oral. Nonetheless, I love the El Centro scene. The energy there excites me.

I was also back on the Tinder game. And reminded what a game it is. A couple girls flaked on me. This morning I was on a walk in Belen when I got a response from Andrea, 19 yo. "To what are you dedicated?" I asked. "I'm a webcam model."

A little more chat and I asked what she's looking for on Tinder. "Money," she replied. Perfect, I said, I can help you with that.

"What do you offer me?

"150 k COP plus taxi, 2 hours."

"Can I come today?

I clarified that I'm expecting sex two times or more and she said no problem. She said I'll take a shower and call a taxi. And she did.

We met at a Tostao coffee shop near my apartment. I don't call girls in directly to my apartment. I want to know who I'm meeting first, and make sure there's not a glue sniffer standing at my door, even though I'm in a building with a portero.

She even beat me there to Tostao and is cute as a button. Super petite and curly hair and mature and grounded. We talked for just a couple minutes and I offered her a coffee which she declined, and we walked to my place. No problems at all with the portero (I had greased the skids with the night and day porteros with a bag of pistachios from D1 for each of them).

Arrived in my apartment and talked for a bit. She had a mango juice while I had a glass of the finest red wine from D1. She was working for a webcam studio but doesn't like that they take 40% (which is normal, as is 50% so she's taking a whack at the prepago life. And, even better, her mom has been a camgirl for five years. Her mom cams from her bedroom / studio, on chaturbate and myfreecams. I asked for her mom's webcam name, but Andrea says that she doesn't know it, unfortunately.

We head to the bedroom and she takes off her short shorts and shirt and she's got a one-piece lingerie on, with a little button that opens the crotch.

Side-note: Practically every Colombiana and Venezolana that I've been with wears lingerie. In the US, in my experience, lingerie is for birthdays and they treat it like they should be paid back for their efforts. Anyways, I love Colombia.

OK, to the action. I'm all yours, she told me. So I laid down and asked for oral. Slow and deep and eye contact and she let me take photos and video, as she did for the whole session. Then I asked her to sit on my face and I gave her oral until she had a quivering orgasm. I was so hot at that point and asked her, do you want to use a condom? No, she immediately replied. Perfect. I haven't been or wanted to be sin-condom with any prepagos until now, but there I went. A combo of missionary, cuatro, cucharita, and I finished inside her.

I prepared a snack. She had never had blueberries, nor pistachios. We talked and I asked her a million questions about her sexual history and home life. Went for a second session of cuatro and a long run of her in cowgirl and another internal finish.

Andrea weighs 88 pounds! A face of a six I'the say from a critical ISG scale, and a killer body, no tattoos, hard abs, just a treat. She's not lesbian but likes trios, but, doesn't have any girlfriends right now that are into it. If she does, she knows my offer is on the table. Next time she comes over, she's bringing her dildos and Hitachi.

200 k COP for nearly three hours and she's happy to return.

Tomorrow, Claudia is coming over, I met her on Photoprepagos days before the quarantine. We went to a motel near Estadio and had the best, GFE, PSE experience that I've had. Her energy is awesome, just a great lady who treated me like a king. I'll post a report tomorrow evening.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456013]Where to stay in Bello? Somewhere that's not in Bello.

There are 2 very good reasons why Bello isn't a good idea.

While a lot of the girls come from Bello, in Bello most aren't hookers. They're friends, neighbors, cousins, classmates. All the people around them can ignore where the girls get their money, as long as they're doing it somewhere else. If they're whoring right next door, the nice girl next door who goes to the store for you becomes a working girl who might try to fuck your husband and take his money.

The second reason is, most mongers want to survive their trips. You park yourself in Bello and start running 3 girls a day through your door and pretty soon someone is going to ask you for a charitable donation, probably forcefully.

Your best bet is to either go where the girls already are working, El Centro, or go where the girls want to be working, Poblado or Laureles.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice, I recommend stay in Poblado or envigado. Bello is like the Oakland in the Bay Area.

Yes, and it hasn't been so bad since March 24 either.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456110]Glad to report Meddy is back!! Lot's of available talent around. These next 3 months should be interesting with the boarders closed. Casas are opening back up as well as I got handed a couple of casa cards downtown. Might be the best time to be in Medellin in a good while.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456013]Where to stay in Bello? Somewhere that's not in Bello.
[/QUOTE]Lmfo, this might be less funny if not being posted right after a discussion about two people from Bello getting popped -.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2456116]Some girls do not appreciate or know how to manage their "pretty. "[/QUOTE]Dude you said that shit. I had a chick come over a couple of days ago. With her pictures of obviously fake hair, fake lashes and gazillion tattoos, she really did not look good to me. Don't know why I had her come in the first place. But when she arrived, looking all tall and sexy, and I could see through that bullshit, she actually looked stunning. I told her that she was doing herself a disservice and needed to rip that weave and those lashes off.

She had a sleeve on one arm. I asked her why she would do that ugly shit I showed her how beautiful the skin on her other arm was. She had a couple of long ass phrases in English tattooed on her that I could not understand the last few words of. I asked her what it said. She is Thai; she didn't damn know. I asked well why would you just go get a random tattoo not even knowing what it says. She said it was free! So mfs just going around getting tattoos of any fucking thing simply because it is free?

She said that her plans for the near future are to get something done to her eyes and fake tits. I asked her why she was trying to make herself look like a transvestite. She said she had already had her nose done, but from the before pics that she showed me I could not tell a difference and told her that she wasted her money on that one. Like you said, maybe we are just stuck in another era and today's standard of beauty means to fuck yourself up as best you can.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2456194]Dude you said that shit. I had a chick come over a couple of days ago. With her pictures of obviously fake hair, fake lashes and gazillion tattoos, she really did not look good to me. Don't know why I had her come in the first place. But when she arrived, looking all tall and sexy, and I could see through that bullshit, she actually looked stunning. I told her that she was doing herself a disservice and needed to rip that weave and those lashes off.

She had a sleeve on one arm. I asked her why she would do that ugly shit I showed her how beautiful the skin on her other arm was. She had a couple of long ass phrases in English tattooed on her that I could not understand the last few words of. I asked her what it said. She is Thai; she didn't damn know. I asked well why would you just go get a random tattoo not even knowing what it says. She said it was free! So mfs just going around getting tattoos of any fucking thing simply because it is free?

She said that her plans for the near future are to get something done to her eyes and fake tits. I asked her why she was trying to make herself look like a transvestite. She said she had already had her nose done, but from the before pics that she showed me I could not tell a difference and told her that she wasted her money on that one. Like you said, maybe we are just stuck in another era and today's standard of beauty means to fuck yourself up as best you can.[/QUOTE]Over my life I have honed my taste for what I find as beautiful or I should say that I now completely understand why my image of a beautiful woman is what it is and conversely what it is not.

I am all for the all natural, detest anything plastic built into a woman's body, also fake eyelashes and the perfectly trimmed eyebrows and all the other fixings that these women do, and don't start talking about tattoos as what a disgrace this does to a woman's body.

An all natural clean look, girl next door type, good smile, meticulously clean and manicured nails, shinny long hair, good attitude, no plastic, no tattoos, there it is in a nutshell.

The majority of Colombian woman strive for this made up beauty look, yes they are a good fuck, but probably 5% fall into my type and when I see it I know it.

IMHO.

The Tall Man.

Today I decided to give a centro girl a last shot before I leave. Tall thick chocolate Girl. My 4th go around. She comes at centro price. 50 mil why 20 mil taxi 3 hrs, 2 leche. Previous experiences. Good, amazing, then over spent. The time she was amazing seem like she was on some good drugs. And so she arrives and lost some lbs. Makes her body look better. The girl has potential but clearly has some issues. She doesn't smoke weed, drinks only water. She directs me to the bedroom and strips. Very aggressive, puts on the condom, sucks, rides, back shot all is good. She feels hot though. Turns on the fan. I swear there's a drug out there that makes chicks feel very hot. 3 different occasions I seen girls thirsty or run into shower just to cool off. Anyways we are over the hour mark and my problem it's taking long for me to cum. She's cumming and I am not so she begs me to cum. She sucks it, try to stroke it off condom. No good. Pull it off. After a while I explode. It's close to 2 hrs. I am really good but our deal says 3 hrs. She tries to get out of it. I convince her it's more time. I get her give me a massage which she is very good at. Decent job but clearly she's not focus and looks anxious to leave its pass 2 hrs now. She says she's hungry. I am not willing to give any food so I decide to give her 50 mil after paying 20 mil for taxi and send her on her way.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456110]Glad to report Meddy is back!! Lot's of available talent around. These next 3 months should be interesting with the boarders closed. Casas are opening back up as well as I got handed a couple of casa cards downtown. Might be the best time to be in Medellin in a good while.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree IT is back! Centro that is, Botero and the Vera.

I spent 4 hours yesterday in centro, a nice sunny day, no hassles by the police, many girls are out, I had no problems finding 3 or 4 new chicas that I would consider, ended up choosing something different if for nothing more than she was different, an 18 yo vennie and 6 months pregnant, cute face and slim / slender with a perfect tummy and one in the oven, 50 mil and 10 for the room, probably would not repeat but she earned her 50 mil.

And no bars or restaurants are opened but nonetheless looks very promising and I was surprised as to how many girls are out and ready to rumble. I got about 4 new whatsapp numbers from some new girls, there is one new very cute just turned 18 yo paisa whom I will contact this weekend, she was so cute explaining the 30 mil she charges, 30 mil! I felt like handing her the 30 mil and taking a rain check for a future date but did not.

The hotels are doing a brisk business as I waited for my girl to meet me in front of the hotel I watched the in's and out's and everything was like before the CV and quarantine.

The Tall Man.

I decide to repeat with and 18 year old. I swear in 3 years when she fills out her natural body will be amazing. 80 mil why 20 mil taxi. 3 hrs 2 leche. I already understand she doesn't like to suck dick. Basically I just want to see her 18 year old body again. She's is very calm and mature for her age. Brings her own weed. She smokes it and I take a little. Her foreplay is great even with out sucking dick and she knows how to give that eye contact. She seems in a really good place. I am thinking is it the weed or something else. She's riding me which is her thing. Occasional smile, intense look into my eyes. I like it. I can see an extended stay with this chick. She is really pleasant. After fucking for awhile without nutting she strokes me off. We rest. She gets a call and ask me to be on the quiet side. Must be talking to a gringo. Comes back for round 2, but her mind is on the cell phone. Responds to few more text and then puts cell away. Fuck for a little bit and then request for her to stroke me off. I was satisfied. I would return to Colombia to fuck her again because I can forsee her more developed the next visit. She has a high ceiling.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456210]She feels hot though. Turns on the fan. I swear there's a drug out there that makes chicks feel very hot. 3 different occasions I seen girls thirsty or run into shower just to cool off.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Elon Musk came through with the SpaceX (MDMA).

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456210]She says she's hungry. I am not willing to give any food so I decide to give her 50 mil after paying 20 mil for taxi and send her on her way.[/QUOTE]Blakman said he woudn't buy these hoes cheese on a Whopper.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2456019]Articles, drug selling business.[/QUOTE]Feel sorry for Pucca, she got wrapped up with the wrong guy.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2456131]You are not. I agree (although I know lots of guys who seem to love the tats). I can live with a small tatoo or two that is tastefully. But so many of these girls has 1) too many, 2) ones that are not well-done, and / or 3) that are too large / not in the right spot. For example, I hate the big tattos on a girl's leg. Or a sleeve. Or anything on their ass, including the "fuck you" tat one puta has. To me, these girls just scream ghetto. And I also agree with the weird haircuts some of them have.

But to each his own. Hopefully there will always be enough to go around to please everyone's tastes.[/QUOTE]Tats are a definite turn-off for me, and I only remember one Tatoo that a girl had in Tijuana, Mexico many years ago that had the following words in English just above her pubic area as follows, "Put It In Slowly".

I couldn't believe what I read when I unwrapped her, and I'll never forget that Tattoo, I guess she had to get that Tat to slow down the guys always trying to rapidly slam it in her!

I followed the instructions directly in front of me, and put it in slowly!

Hey when she suck me off in a condom and completed the full 3 hrs.

I was a nice son of a ***** LOL. I let her stay the night next visit and she doubled the price without my consent and then provide a less stellar performance. I paid her 140 mil just to get her out the house. I banned her for a long time but I wanted to see the body one more time. And for 70 mil I said blakman forgive but do not forget LOL.

I do not do drugs just been smoking weed this trip so I don't know the effects that more serious drugs other than weed may cause. Just curious as to why the few felt extremely hot.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2456240]Sounds like Elon Musk came through with the SpaceX (MDMA).

Blakman said he woudn't buy these hoes cheese on a Whopper.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Turgid;2456258]Feel sorry for Pucca, she got wrapped up with the wrong guy.[/QUOTE]They never inadvertently get wrapped up with the wrong dude, this was her choice in life and I for one don't give them any get out of jail free card for making bad decisions and then don't take responsibility.

A sad situation true but at least she died alongside her gangsta boyfriend so she will be remembered by her friends and family as a woman who simply fulfilled her destiny in life. They love the drama, they love their gangsta boyfriends till death do us part.

Now my prayers are for the children she left behind. Now they will be left to raise by most likely a grandmother and these kids will face the same life decisions as she did so lets just only hope that they make better choices.

Over the past 4 or 5 years I have a had a handful of really cool bello girls, some of whom I am still in contact with, but know not to spend any time in or around their home turf.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456217]I decide to repeat with and 18 year old. I swear in 3 years when she fills out her natural body will be amazing. 80 mil why 20 mil taxi. 3 hrs 2 leche. I already understand she doesn't like to suck dick. Basically I just want to see her 18 year old body again. She's is very calm and mature for her age. Brings her own weed. She smokes it and I take a little. Her foreplay is great even with out sucking dick and she knows how to give that eye contact. She seems in a really good place. I am thinking is it the weed or something else. She's riding me which is her thing. Occasional smile, intense look into my eyes. I like it. I can see an extended stay with this chick. She is really pleasant. After fucking for awhile without nutting she strokes me off. We rest. She gets a call and ask me to be on the quiet side. Must be talking to a gringo. Comes back for round 2, but her mind is on the cell phone. Responds to few more text and then puts cell away. Fuck for a little bit and then request for her to stroke me off. I was satisfied. I would return to Colombia to fuck her again because I can forsee her more developed the next visit. She has a high ceiling.[/QUOTE]Been there and done that. That is to say needing to train a new 18 yo that only got dick a few times. And must now confess that a few of these once 18 yo cuties are now superstars on Facebook and other online services, so guys your welcome that I did the training for your special gal, hehehehe.

Yes I agree there is nothing more beautiful in life than a fresh 18 yo pussy that has seen little use but even despite this lack of experience some are born with a natural innate ability to really connect when having sex, I have experienced the deep intense soulful look into my eyes with a smile that would melt Hitlers heart when having sex, this doesn't happen often but when it does the experience in itself is incredible, leaves me shaking my head like WTF just happened. Incredible. I have 3 girls that posses this ability, completely untrained and effortless, this comes so natural to these.

The Tall Man.

I've stayed a few times at Bello in the past (2 yrs ago) in Barrio Obrero and in Cabañas (neighborhood where Pucca died). I've enjoyed my stays there. People are friendly, hot chicks walking out and about, rarely see any gringos, and party scene is nuts in Obrero. And having Bello girls coming to my apt was chill and convenient. Unfortunately, Bello has gotten more dangerous and even my regular Bello girls have cautioned me about it. They say it's "muy caliente', meaning hot in not a good way.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2456173]Lmfo, this might be less funny if not being posted right after a discussion about two people from Bello getting popped -.[/QUOTE]

I am with you, Tall Man. This is my type also. So many of these girls are naturally beautiful, but they have zero self-esteem. They believe that big fake tits, fake ass, false eyelashes and false eyebrows make them look better. And you can't convince them otherwise.

Tats and fucked up piercings are the worst to me. I can take the eyebrows and eyelashes to some extent. But I prefer natural. The girl next door. Lucky for us lots of guys like tats and bolt-ONS or big asses, so you and I can keep the others to ourselves.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2456209]

An all natural clean look, girl next door type, good smile, meticulously clean and manicured nails, shinny long hair, good attitude, no plastic, no tattoos, there it is in a nutshell.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

My taste for beautiful girls is exactly the same as Tall Man's. Implants, tattoos, piercings only make the girls look and feel fake, cheap, dirty, trashy.

Fortunately I can always find more than a dozen natural beauties among the bar girls in Hong Kong Club and street girls around the bar block every time I visit La Zona in Tijuana. Some nights I bagged 4 girls before going home.

Anyone in these areas please share some info if worth exploring.

Claudia and I met up at Exito Laureles, like last time. She found me in line while I was checking out. She greeted me like she's my girlfriend, big hug and kiss on the lips. We walked to my apartment and she cooked me breakfast and made coffee. Then she washed and dried the dishes, put everything away, and organized the kitchen.

I asked her to take some photos of me, so that I could update my Tinder. We took photos in different rooms and different shirts, and she buttoned and hung my shirts as I changed. Got some good pics. I don't think it really matters here with Tinder, with Tinder Gold I see that I have 1,100 likes, but I wanted to dress things up.

Claudia is 36. I like MILFs. An ass to die for; I would have been convinced that it's enhanced, but it's not. Killers abs. Enhanced chest with good outcome. Great smile. No tattoos. 10/10 personality. She locked down during the quarantine and only had an advertisement on Skokka, and was only sending photo and video packets. She also works for an agency.

We head to the bedroom and disrobe, and she's got lingerie underneath. She breaks out her massage oil and gives me a great massage, then starts teasing my cock. She reaches for a condom and I remind her that I popped in her mouth last time, so she proceeds BBBJ. Deep and slow and wet, incredible. After plenty of time we proceed to sex, cowgirl, missionary, spoon, and doggy. Her pussy was dripping wet and she was wet with sweat too. We finish and she comes in for a cuddle as I catch my breath.

After a break we're back at it for session two. A long pounding in doggy, we were both hot when it was over. Headed to she shower and soaped each other down.

Learned that my bed frame is real rickety. I will probably break it during this stay.

Back to bed and she shows me the videos and photos that she sends her clients. She's just fucking lovely. She's been over for four hours at this point and I ask her how much. Same as last time, she says. Well, I gave her 300 k COP last time without a discussion because I was so fucking happy. That was for a four hour session at a nice motel suite with jacuzzi. I think of course about Blakman's deals and SlapShot marrying his girl for 200 k and Surfer500 banging the finest honeys of El Centro for 5 k, but it seems right. Her treatment is next level and I enjoy it. She also asked if she can TLN with me soon for the same rate. She'll cook dinner and also breakfast for me in the morning. Then, as we're talking in bed this afternoon, she initiates a third session. I was winding down but how could I resist. She sucks me hard and I give her an extended pounding in missionary and she has a squirting orgasm and makes the bed wet. I love it.

We shower again and she lays my clothes out and she makes the bed, tidies everything up, washes her water glass, takes out the trash.

Viva Colombia.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456095]I would go to the Casacol website and look at comparable properties to gauge what the rates are, however what I do know for a fact is that they have lot of vacancies, and potential renters are currently making low ball offers to owners.

From the pictures you've posted (besides all your cream pie honey's) , having a large balcony and / or Terraza along with a Hot-tub, and views is somewhat rare and very sought after by renters, if that is the case, there may be some actual interest by others.

If you leave, the owner will incur some cleaning costs, and may have some deferred maintenance issues, etc so having you stay is to their benefit. So if you think you might be around for at least another three months, and will agree to this in writing, I would offer the $ 50 a night for this entire period. I am assuming that your in a building that has a thirty day minimum rental period versus an apartment that can rent by the day and / or week which is very rare. If that is the case, the $ 73 a day is a bargain during normal times for that type of property, but the owner will have a lot of turnover, vacancy time, cleaning costs, etc. So having a long term tenant is in his best interest, versus trying to squeeze a few hundred extra dollars out of you unless somebody is actually looking to rent for an extended period of time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2456101]My three part strategy would be:

1. Immediately begin looking for a replacement apartment and have it at the ready.

2. Offer $45/ day for where you are but accept no deal of more than $50/ day.

3. Remind myself throughout the negotiation that the owner is looking to secure any deal that will cover expenses for as long as possible through the end of August.

The worst case scenario for you would be the inconvenience of a move. I think you will have little trouble finding a comparable apartment for the same price or less. It is very much a short term renter's market. The owner is trying to get you (by raising your rate) or someone else to cover costs until the tourists are back. As you say, once you leave that apartment becomes one more Poblado white elephant amongst a pile of others you see every day on facebook gringo sites and airbnb.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456124]The chance of the owner getting another long term rental right now is slim. He might have some interested in weekend rentals, but I doubt he's got a 1 or 2 month customer on standby.

His costs go up with you there, but probably only about 250-300 k per month. Which to me says you're holding the reins. Toss him a 2 month deal for $2400 with the option to extend to 3 months at an additional $1500. He's unlikely to pull in anywhere near that amount right now and it means he avoids all the cleaning fees from short term rentals.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2456133]That is absolutely bullshit. Where do they allege that this influx of interest is coming from? All of the outbound "humanitarian" flights are sold out and nobody is inbound.

$50/ night for your place is right where it needs to be.[/QUOTE]Sound advice, gents. None of which I saw prior to the deadline. Nonethless, I offered $1500/ month for 3 months. I offered to pay half up front, and half after 45 days. Last night, the manager, who is smoking hot and has an even hotter sister whom I randomly stumbled across on IG, said the owner accepted. She also said payment would be monthly. Is that just easier for them to skim from the owner? I have a suspicious feeling that the owner is not involved in this, whatsoever. When I first moved in, the place was not in good shape. They had a staff here trying to quickly get it ready. The building had some external facelift, which left paint on some of the high windows, and hadn't been removed in quite a while. So, I'm thinking this might be just a play pen for a gringo whenever he gets the urge, and otherwise, it's just a pawn for the management company's delight. Prior to making my offer, I asked what other penthouses were available. Not because I am an idiot and can't see them online, or others not managed by this company, but rather to gauge the availability and prices. I received 6-7 options in the same price range. I liked one of them, but it was a three-floor place without an office, not as homey, etc. What that told me was that 1) the "we have other people interested" was complete bullshit, and 2) why would a management company want me to go from paying $50/ nt to another place I'd haggle for less than $50/ nt that is listed for more, so they could supposedly get $80/ nt here, plus have to clean two units? It doesn't make sense. They could just send clients to the other available units and get their asking price, and it would be just about the same. What if I were to call their bluff and just go find a new AirBnB? This all leads me to believe the owner is not involved. If I owned this place, and understood the market right now, I would have had the manager chick reach out 2 weeks ago to extend the contract. Anyway, offer accepted, didn't have to move all my shit, but I did spend some good time researching fincas. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with a big finca out in the middle of nowhere, solo, though. There was a pretty cool looking 9-bedroom house near Provenza / Lleras with an indoor pool / jacuzzi (heated small pool, I guess) with pool table, etc. , for $2000/ month.

Anyway, that's done and done.

My next question open for opinions is:

What are your thoughts about renting a moto automatico (sounds better than scooter, no?) for the next few months? Is it worth it if they give a great price? What are the current local laws with pico y cedula, etc.? I wouldn't mind being able to hop on and rip up to Botero, but there's really not many other things I can do. I enjoy my walks to the grocery store, just to get out and have some fresh air and exercise. So, I guess I just answered my own question. Uber or Didi to Botero, if I get the urge.

One thing that has come up a few times are the apartments in Laureles. I have never experienced these. Where is the info? Do some of the Mileroticos ads come from these places? Does anyone have a New Life update or report? Can I spit on my own dick, or no?

I think I'm going to have Pinky pop by, tonight, for some good old fashioned BB service, and some drinks. Now that Wifey is gone, I'm going to try to get back into some sort of routine, so I can re-focus on work, and then reward myself on the weekends. Much of my business is overseas, so it's not great if I am waking up late two mornings between M-F.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456372]Is that just easier for them to skim from the owner? I have a suspicious feeling that the owner is not involved in this, whatsoever.[/QUOTE]Let me ask you this, do you think the owner is involved when they reduced the price originally?

My rental management agent checks with me on most issues even after I told them just make decision for me. In similar situation, my agent will tell me the market is slow and gives me several price points to consider. When renewing lease, the price usually will go up, the agent will analyze the situation and give me a choice.

Just based on your description, it sounds like a well run place to me.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2456330]My taste for beautiful girls is exactly the same as Tall Man's. Implants, tattoos, piercings only make the girls look and feel fake, cheap, dirty, trashy.

Fortunately I can always find more than a dozen natural beauties among the bar girls in Hong Kong Club and street girls around the bar block every time I visit La Zona in Tijuana. Some nights I bagged 4 girls before going home.[/QUOTE]Welcome Captain Solo to the Medellin boards, good to see that you drop in and support the all natural chicas as do I. Yes I see some of your posts with photos of the Mexican chicas in your stable and love every one of them, great choice in women.

For those of you who don't know the Captain is somewhat of a legend in Tijuana, specifically the Hong Kong club where I hail from, actually spent more time and money in the clubs of Tijuana over a course of about 15 years (1999 through 2016) than I would ever admit to, hehehhe.

Now I have not kept any secrets that over the course of the quarantine, over 2 months now, I have had a live-in 18 yo Venezuelan staying in my apartment with me, she has not a single tattoo nor piercing, white soft skin, does not smoke nada, a beautiful smile, clean as a whistle at all times, perky honest be cups and a perfectly formed pussy, somewhat inexperienced in sex (love to teach and train her) and kid you not she could be a teen model for Abercrombie and Fitch clothing.

We have actually drawn close more than just sex but dare I say companionship and friendship, oh but we are both very clear that neither is interested in anything serious. We hang out watching Netflix or cooking or just laughing at stupid shit we watch or see.

I actually started out with 2 of them (her and her friend) but had to let the other go and so she left about one month ago, she was a great fuck but even between friends they developed competition and some jealousy, not over me so much but that I was showing one more attention than the other from time to time and so now with the one it is so much better.

Listen from my experience, you never really know any of these girls until you spend 24 hours a day and 7 days a week with them for over two months.

Yet despite the fact that I have this beautiful 18 yo with me I still need to go out a find strange pussy, about once each week I get out and find a new chica.

Hats off to you Captain Solo! Come for a visit.

The Tall Man.

I was in Plaza Botero today from about 4 PM until sunset. It was the first time for me in about two weeks. The difference is striking. It's definitely back to pre-coronavirus if not more. The place was packed and hopping. I was in Laureles last night, no change there except all the hair salons and barbers are open. They seem to be making up for lost time by staying open late. Uber is the way to go. The lines for the metro are insane anywhere near rush hour.

I should also mention the troncales and local buses are packed to the gills. People are wearing masks but it is standing room only like before and the every other seat empty is now an urban legend.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456337]Anyone in these areas please share some info if worth exploring.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2456381]Let me ask you this, do you think the owner is involved when they reduced the price originally?

My rental management agent checks with me on most issues even after I told them just make decision for me. In similar situation, my agent will tell me the market is slow and gives me several price points to consider. When renewing lease, the price usually will go up, the agent will analyze the situation and give me a choice.

Just based on your description, it sounds like a well run place to me.[/QUOTE]Fair point. I guess I was thrown off by the offer of 50% payment up front being turned down to collect 33%. I don't know if that is easier for accounting, or easier to skim, etc. I was prepared to counter with 100% up front, at the same price, if they declined my offer.

So, after going Golden State Warriors on Pinky in the jacuzzi, she unveiled some interesting information. She said her roommate told her things will be opening up on Monday. I've been searching to confirm if this is the case. It wasn't Gusto's, but it seemed like stores, gyms, and maybe even restaurants. I felt a little strange finding out just after I booked 3 months that California was, essentially, going back to normal. However, if this is the case, maybe I will get a scooter, so I can cruise to SmartFit in the mornings. The local gringo shop had jacked up their prices in early March, compared to November. I wonder if they've just shut down for the time being, or if they'd be inclined to give a nice discount, given the circumstances.

Fuck, I will be so fucking excited if they open Hooters, et al, and the gyms. Premier League every day, almost, NHL / NBA gearing-up.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456372]My next question open for opinions is:

What are your thoughts about renting a moto automatico (sounds better than scooter, no?) for the next few months? Is it worth it if they give a great price? What are the current local laws with pico y cedula, etc.? I wouldn't mind being able to hop on and rip up to Botero, but there's really not many other things I can do. I enjoy my walks to the grocery store, just to get out and have some fresh air and exercise. So, I guess I just answered my own question. Uber or Didi to Botero, if I get the urge.[/QUOTE]I purchased my car here in Medellin about two years ago but before then I had a new Yamaha BWS 125 for a year. A really good fun bike which I took all over outside of Medellin for overnight trips just exploring and from time to time also took it to centro / the vera and actually was fun to cruise and stop on my bike and do some window shopping on the vera and also botero before the construction road work which has now made it impossible to stop near the sidewalk of botero because of the widening and extension (the chicas are now two far back).

My experience with riding my BWS down into centro was fun, finding a parking garage for a bike is easy and cheap, some time I would just stay in a hotel if I wanted to drink and party with a paisa or two for multiple hours.

Don't know about rental cost but should be reasonable and maybe you can strike a good deal for a month rental period.

Just know that riding a bike is not for the faint of heart so I would usually try to plan my centro trips to avoid rush hour.

These days I have my car and so during the quarantine I have driven but only on the days when I am allowed as I have in fact been stopped and my pico why cedula checked. This being said it has become much more relaxed in the past week and I suspect will become even more relaxed. Just don't plan on taking any out of Medellin trips yet as there are check stops outside Medellin and you will not be allowed through and perhaps even get a fine.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2456395]I was in Plaza Botero today from about 4 PM until sunset. It was the first time for me in about two weeks. The difference is striking. It's definitely back to pre-coronavirus if not more. The place was packed and hopping. I was in Laureles last night, no change there except all the hair salons and barbers are open. They seem to be making up for lost time by staying open late. Uber is the way to go. The lines for the metro are insane anywhere near rush hour.

I should also mention the troncales and local buses are packed to the gills. People are wearing masks but it is standing room only like before and the every other seat empty is now an urban legend.[/QUOTE]With the bars being closed you have the spill over of all the Chicas that used to hang in them onto the street and walking areas hence your observation of more than before. Any idea when the bars are going to re-open?

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2456471]My experience with riding my BWS down into centro was fun, finding a parking garage for a bike is easy and cheap, some time I would just stay in a hotel if I wanted to drink and party with a paisa or two for multiple hours.

Don't know about rental cost but should be reasonable and maybe you can strike a good deal for a month rental period.

Just know that riding a bike is not for the faint of heart so I would usually try to plan my centro trips to avoid rush hour.

These days I have my car and so during the quarantine I have driven but only on the days when I am allowed as I have in fact been stopped and my pico why cedula checked. This being said it has become much more relaxed in the past week and I suspect will become even more relaxed. Just don't plan on taking any out of Medellin trips yet as there are check stops outside Medellin and you will not be allowed through and perhaps even get a fine.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456489]With the bars being closed you have the spill over of all the Chicas that used to hang in them onto the street and walking areas hence your observation of more than before. Any idea when the bars are going to re-open?[/QUOTE]

Tall Man, I love the rush of riding around in this chaos. I've only crashed once, and it involved no other vehicles or people, just me emulating American Ninja Warrior, and somehow I rode away unscathed. I agree it is pretty easy to find parking, etc., and the construction is a negative. It takes a bit to make a lap, near Botero, and you can find yourself in ZombieLand, pretty quickly. For some reason, I feel just a bit more free when I have a bike, rather than staring at my phone waiting for Didi / Uber in Centro.

Surfer500, the Hooters GM is checking on any updates, after I told her I heard a rumor about gyms, which would lead me to believe possibly restaurants, etc. I'll report back if I hear anything concrete.

I believe I will have to download that stupid CoronApp to enter Tesoro, to then enter SmartFit, but who knows. Not a big fan of shit like that. If the gyms open, I will seriously consider getting a bike. Uber / Didi is so inexpensive and easy, but cruising around is fun, for the right price.

Pinky stopped by, last night, as I mentioned. 2 pops in the jacuzzi, rice bowl with chicken & chorizo, 3 Smirnoff Ice = 116 k. She said she hasn't been on Chaturbate because she saw a friend blasted on Facebook with photos / videos, and then when she searched herself, she saw one site with 50+ photos of her. She got all but 2 removed, so far, but is hesitant. A buddy of mine from US said she should try OnlyFans. Pinky said she was going to have to wake up early to go buy something for her little brother in Centro. I may have misunderstood, but I thought that meant wake up early with me. Around 12, she said she has to go because she has to wake up early. She didn't respond to WhatsApp until about 1130 a today. Her last activity was around 3 a. I wouldn't be surprised if she had another cita, given what I pay her. Wifey had been irritated before about Pinky always saying she was going to stay then leaving. I'm not mad about it, but we do fuck sin condon, so hopefully she isn't running around like an idiot, like me!

Happy fin!

(Wondering if I should make an offer to Blakman for his catalogue, before he leaves. Might be fun just to negotiate. Get a taste of the other side!)

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2456395]I was in Plaza Botero today from about 4 PM until sunset. It was the first time for me in about two weeks. The difference is striking. It's definitely back to pre-coronavirus if not more. The place was packed and hopping. I was in Laureles last night, no change there except all the hair salons and barbers are open. They seem to be making up for lost time by staying open late. Uber is the way to go. The lines for the metro are insane anywhere near rush hour.

I should also mention the troncales and local buses are packed to the gills. People are wearing masks but it is standing room only like before and the every other seat empty is now an urban legend.[/QUOTE]I agree. I was in Central as well yesterday. Botero seems like it has more people than before. I haven't tried Uber in months but I do use Didi. I saw one or two working chicas that caught my eye, but for the most part, it broad daylight and most of the talent I saw was subpar. I think at night everything looks better and especially after a few drinks. But, it is good to see life back out on the streets. Everyday things seem to be getter better. I have seen some incredible bodies here and there.

I am wondering if it just seems more lively than pre-coronavirus because the past few months have been so subdued. It's all good. I'm probably going to do a casa run this afternoon for old time's sake.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456514]I agree. I was in Central as well yesterday. Botero seems like it has more people than before. I haven't tried Uber in months but I do use Didi. I saw one or two working chicas that caught my eye, but for the most part, it broad daylight and most of the talent I saw was subpar. I think at night everything looks better and especially after a few drinks. But, it is good to see life back out on the streets. Everyday things seem to be getter better. I have seen some incredible bodies here and there.[/QUOTE]

That is still open ended. The Veracruz bars are in the same category as casinos, dine in restaurants, discos and, oddly enough, churches!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456489]With the bars being closed you have the spill over of all the Chicas that used to hang in them onto the street and walking areas hence your observation of more than before. Any idea when the bars are going to re-open?[/QUOTE]

SlapShot10.

Not sure about Airbnb but I have noticed here in Barranquilla that several prices on AGODA going up $1-$3 per night multiplied by 30 days. Many people and businesses are speculating things returning to normal so prices will follow.

I tried to take uber but theres a command to confirm essential that scared me off.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456514]I agree. I was in Central as well yesterday. Botero seems like it has more people than before. I haven't tried Uber in months but I do use Didi. I saw one or two working chicas that caught my eye, but for the most part, it broad daylight and most of the talent I saw was subpar. I think at night everything looks better and especially after a few drinks. But, it is good to see life back out on the streets. Everyday things seem to be getter better. I have seen some incredible bodies here and there.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456538]I tried to take uber but theres a command to confirm essential that scared me off.

.[/QUOTE]Download Didi.

It's taxis but functions like Uber, where you can track the car / driver, chat, see ETA, etc. Pay cash.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456538]I tried to take uber but theres a command to confirm essential that scared me off.

.[/QUOTE]I always use Didi and never had a problem. You can register like Uber where you pay with your credit card or you can use cash. You pay what is on the meter so make sure the cab turns on the meter when you get in. Keep in mind, Pico why Cedula is for shopping and going to the bank. You are allowed to go out and exercise every day for 2 hours and you determine which 2 hours so no one really knows what you are doing as long as you don't draw unnecessary attention to yourself. Botero is crowded so it is easy to blend in.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456513] (Wondering if I should make an offer to Blakman for his catalogue, before he leaves. Might be fun just to negotiate. Get a taste of the other side!)[/QUOTE]Your probably shit out of luck on this one as I am guessing his Inbox is filled to the brim with other members requests and offers for his stable of Chicas, however you might propose he take bids from everyone or perhaps hold an online auction for the lot. He might even post photos of the girls, and take bids for each one of them along with taking bids for the entire collection.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456553]Your probably shit out of luck on this one as I am guessing his Inbox is filled to the brim with other members requests and offers for his stable of Chicas, however you might propose he take bids from everyone or perhaps hold an online auction for the lot. He might even post photos of the girls, and take bids for each one of them along with taking bids for the entire collection.[/QUOTE]


Just made my first Botero trip in almost 3 months. I would have been surprised with how many people were out, had it not been for reading previous posts. I made a few laps, had a couple beers, and then took off. Definitely felt like a normal day.

Has anyone ever been with a girl that hangs out near the stairs / rooms about 1-2 spots off the corner off Avenida de Greiff & Avenida Cundinamarca (Cr53/ Cl53); she has maroon hair, skinny, somewhat tall, tatoos, braces? She always catches my eye out of all the girls around there, but I just can't do it. I've never picked up a girl in Botero, but I like the busy, high-energy, stay-aware vibe in that area.

The only thing that stood out, today, was it was the first time I've seen some one walking through Botero with a snorkel and fins. It caught me off-guard, which is tough to do in Botero! Anyway, I finally walked over to see why there was a crowd of onlookers, and it was Blakman picking all the moneda out of the fountain!

My data actually ran out, today, without me expecting it. So, right when I got to Botero, I realized I was off the grid, and decided to make it an abbreviated field trip.

There os no need to be frightened of Uber essential. It is just their way of getting past the obstacles the taxi unions put in their way. Uber by the way is still slightly cheaper than taxis vía Didi or direct. The difference is minimal so the real advantage of Uber is the better condition of the generally later and newer cars. You also don't have to explain to Uber drivers how to use the app, how to accept credit cards or what GPS is. I am still surprised how often I had to do that using didi the past few months.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456538]I tried to take uber but theres a command to confirm essential that scared me off..[/QUOTE]

Yeah Centro is lit. Since the bars are closed, it is like one big street party. A lot of chicas out trying to make up for lost time.

I took a yellow cab. I want to note theres just a 2000 to 3600 peso difference between yellow and uber. The first lap I almost puked. You definitely have to develop a stomach for centro scenario.

The 2nd lap I see a girl from mileroticos in fishnet one piece in the alley way near the end of 53 strip. I fucked her like a month ago at my home. She was the nicest person. 3 hrs 100 mil 2 leche. This made me want to puke even more. I pondered did I eat her pussy. She is a thick ass chocolate girl with a big booty from Cali. Anyways I continue for a third lap and like the guys say it is crowded. I am trying to find a few girls to give my number but I am not comfortable in this atmosphere. 4 lap and I see a chocolate girl with nice body and good height. I want to take her with me or get her number. She comes up with 100 mil per hour. I am like this is centro. You sure you don't mean 30 mil or 50 mil. I say 3 hours. She first says 300 mil then says 240 mil. Obviously she didn't know its blakman she talking to. But she was very patient and polite. Quite frankly she did not belong in the environment. We couldn't agree so she gave me her number. 5 lap theres more chicks filtering in. And 2 girls with skimpy outfits showing mucho ass look interesting. One notice me comes over and talk. She looks okay but borderline hardcore but was friendly buy I couldn't do it. Several laps and few more chics coming I got tired out and jumped in a cab. I think 4 to 6 pm might be better. That's it.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456585]Yeah Centro is lit. Since the bars are closed, it is like one big street party. A lot of chicas out trying to make up for lost time.[/QUOTE].

Blakman you dashed the dreams of many mongers by exploding the urban myth that facebook and milerotico girls are a cut above centro street girls. That girl you recognized would shock the hell out of me if she did not accept 30 K for a quickie in the nearby love hotels.

Give it a few more tries, you will get used to being outside of your apartment.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456589]I took a yellow cab. I want to note theres just a 2000 to 3600 peso difference between yellow and uber. The first lap I almost puked. You definitely have to develop a stomach for centro scenario.

The 2nd lap I see a girl from mileroticos in fishnet one piece in the alley way near the end of 53 strip. I fucked her like a month ago at my home. She was the nicest person. 3 hrs 100 mil 2 leche. This made me want to puke even more. I pondered did I eat her pussy. She is a thick ass chocolate girl with a big booty from Cali. Anyways I continue for a third lap and like the guys say it is crowded. I am trying to find a few girls to give my number but I am not comfortable in this atmosphere. 4 lap and I see a chocolate girl with nice body and good height. I want to take her with me or get her number. She comes up with 100 mil per hour. I am like this is centro. You sure you don't mean 30 mil or 50 mil. I say 3 hours. She first says 300 mil then says 240 mil. Obviously she didn't know its blakman she talking to. But she was very patient and polite. Quite frankly she did not belong in the environment. We couldn't agree so she gave me her number. 5 lap theres more chicks filtering in. And 2 girls with skimpy outfits showing mucho ass look interesting. One notice me comes over and talk. She looks okay but borderline hardcore but was friendly buy I couldn't do it. Several laps and few more chics coming I got tired out and jumped in a cab. I think 4 to 6 pm might be better. That's it..[/QUOTE]

There is free WiFi in Plaza Botero. The network is "MedellinDigital".

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456568]Just made my first Botero trip in almost 3 months. I would have been surprised with how many people were out, had it not been for reading previous posts. I made a few laps, had a couple beers, and then took off. Definitely felt like a normal day.

Has anyone ever been with a girl that hangs out near the stairs / rooms about 1-2 spots off the corner off Avenida de Greiff & Avenida Cundinamarca (Cr53/ Cl53); she has maroon hair, skinny, somewhat tall, tatoos, braces? She always catches my eye out of all the girls around there, but I just can't do it. I've never picked up a girl in Botero, but I like the busy, high-energy, stay-aware vibe in that area.

The only thing that stood out, today, was it was the first time I've seen some one walking through Botero with a snorkel and fins. It caught me off-guard, which is tough to do in Botero! Anyway, I finally walked over to see why there was a crowd of onlookers, and it was Blakman picking all the moneda out of the fountain!

My data actually ran out, today, without me expecting it. So, right when I got to Botero, I realized I was off the grid, and decided to make it an abbreviated field trip.[/QUOTE]

Today, Stautday, at 1130 hrs I was about ready to head to El Centro when I got a Tinder message from Michell, 19 yo. We had exchanged basic messages a couple days ago. Today I ask her what she's doing and she says in Spanish "I'm at home bored. " Perfect. I tell her that I'm looking to make a deal with a girl. Tell me the details? She says. 200 mil total for 3 hours, for sex at my apartment. "Me gusta tener un buen rato," she replies. Done. She agrees to meet me at Tostao at 1 pm and shows up exactly on time. I had asked her if she has her cedula and she replied "Obviamente" but when we arrived at my building she presented the portero with a paper temporary, which he rejected without looking at. Fair enough, I told him. She had a valid story; lost her cedula in a robbery and the offices are closed during quarantine so she can't get a real, new one. So we head out of the building and talk for a minute and decide to head to her apartment to get her passport. Which was kind of cool, because I had not been to Santa Lucia, and it looked like an interesting neighborhood to me.

We arrived back at my building and the portero took her passport info and we cruised in. Prepared some snacks and opened the wine and we're off, talking. She's 1. 65 m and dark skinned with mostly straight hair, her parents are from the Caribbean coast but she came to Medellin when she was a baby. Extra big natural tits that she wants to get reduced when she has the money. After about 20 minutes she goes to the bathroom and comes back with her panties off, and dress pulled up. We drink a little more and play grabass and go to my bedroom.

She is a puta. I could have banged this girl for free. Michell likes to have a good time. We fuck around and exchange oral back and forth and eventually she's on her back and I rub coconut oil on her tits and she's tit fucking me and I'm finger fucking her, and I pop a huge load all over her face. She loves it and rubs it around and goes to the mirror to have a look. We take a break and drink some more wine and eventually have our propper session in doggy and missionary and back to doggy and she likes to get slapped, hard, in the ass and face.

We hang out and order pizza and spend quite a bit of time on my Tinder, with Michell sending out messages to girls on my behalf. She's hoping for a threesome. It's funny how she recognizes girls and some she likes, some she calls perras. I show her pics of my Paisa girlfriend and Michell would love to fuck her. I'm going to suggest some things tomorrow with the GF, but I don't think it's very likely. However, I'm wondering if maybe I can set up a trio with Andrea from two days ago, who also likes trios. I think I could. But it sure would be cool to do with my GF.

Michelle tells me that she likes to watch porno with guys. She also asks if she can TLN with me next week. We connect really good. She's cuddly and sweet and slutty. We have another session on the couch, sin condon, and I pop inside her. We dance salsa. After two and a half bottles of wine, and pizza, and three pops, she leaves at 8 pm. 200 mil.

Viva Colombia.

Now that is f'in hilarious! I am glad Blakman has a good sense of humor. I can picture it now!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2456568]

The only thing that stood out, today, was it was the first time I've seen some one walking through Botero with a snorkel and fins. It caught me off-guard, which is tough to do in Botero! Anyway, I finally walked over to see why there was a crowd of onlookers, and it was Blakman picking all the moneda out of the fountain!

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[QUOTE=Blakman;2456589]I took a yellow cab. I want to note theres just a 2000 to 3600 peso difference between yellow and uber. The first lap I almost puked. You definitely have to develop a stomach for centro scenario.

The 2nd lap I see a girl from mileroticos in fishnet one piece in the alley way near the end of 53 strip. I fucked her like a month ago at my home. She was the nicest person. 3 hrs 100 mil 2 leche. This made me want to puke even more. I pondered did I eat her pussy. She is a thick ass chocolate girl with a big booty from Cali. Anyways I continue for a third lap and like the guys say it is crowded. I am trying to find a few girls to give my number but I am not comfortable in this atmosphere. 4 lap and I see a chocolate girl with nice body and good height. I want to take her with me or get her number. She comes up with 100 mil per hour. I am like this is centro. You sure you don't mean 30 mil or 50 mil. I say 3 hours. She first says 300 mil then says 240 mil. Obviously she didn't know its blakman she talking to. But she was very patient and polite. Quite frankly she did not belong in the environment. We couldn't agree so she gave me her number. 5 lap theres more chicks filtering in. And 2 girls with skimpy outfits showing mucho ass look interesting. One notice me comes over and talk. She looks okay but borderline hardcore but was friendly buy I couldn't do it. Several laps and few more chics coming I got tired out and jumped in a cab. I think 4 to 6 pm might be better. That's it..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you were kinda like a fish out of water in El Centro, and perhaps a bit of a tourist attraction to boot for some of the girls there being a foreigner. Something to consider in El Centro is that at least 99% of the girls clients are locals, and lots of times, the locals will just make offers to the girls as to what they are willing to pay. I have heard countless stories as to how the Colombian men try to low-ball them, so your in the company of cheap charlies as well. Additionally, being an obvious foreigner with limited Spanish speaking skills is going to make it difficult for you to navigate there as a newcomer. And as you found out, the smarter / hustler girls will try to play you with high pricing as you experienced.

With that being said, if you return, and find something you like, just tell them exactly what you want, and how much your willing to pay versus getting quotes or negotiating.

Additionally, it would probably not be a good idea to pull a girl from El Centro you have never been with before and drag her back to your apartment. Plenty of short time Hotels available for 2 to 3 hours with hot and cold water.

And as you noted, the best time to be there is in the late afternoon / early evening as there is a shift change with an overlap of girls who work during the day, and others arriving who work evenings.

My guess is you won't be going back to El Centro anytime soon.

It's not for everybody, and what you experienced, along with your observations have pretty much been similar with numerous other posters.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456589]The first lap I almost puked. You definitely have to develop a stomach for centro scenario. I think 4 to 6 pm might be better. [/QUOTE]Soon you will be hooked on it like a junkie on meth.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456589]The 2nd lap I see a girl from mileroticos in fishnet one piece in the alley way near the end of 53 strip. I fucked her like a month ago at my home. She was the nicest person. 3 hrs 100 mil 2 leche. This made me want to puke even more. I pondered did I eat her pussy.
[/QUOTE]Proven once more that the same chicks you find in one place, you will find in another. Just like hot dogs, you are fine eating them until you find out how they are made. It is better for some to have them delivered to the house than to make a trip to the farm or factory to pick them up.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456589]I think 4 to 6 pm might be better. That's it.

.[/QUOTE]This is a good time because typically a lot of the girls wouldn't come out until later, but the chicas are really hungry right now because the borders are closed and the quarantine put a dent in many of their pockets. They are just now really coming out in large numbers. I would suggest, if you see something you like, but don't like the numbers, get her info anyway because often a price can be negotiated later on. Also, be careful because there are a lot of youngins out there so try to verify age, if you have any doubts.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2456161]Yes, and it hasn't been so bad since March 24 either.[/QUOTE]Agree. Closing the borders and the quarantine hasn't stopped the show. When the bars open back up, things should really be crazy, but it is good to see more people out and about in the streets right now.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2456019]Articles, drug selling business.[/QUOTE]The newspaper article is available online for anyone that wants to read it.

[URL]https://www.qhubo.com/epaper/medellin/viewer.html?publication=Medellin&date=04_06_2020[/URL]

According to the article the cops think it's drug related, and specifically a conflict between the Niquia Camacol and Pachelly gangs. What I found so curious about the video is that she came out of the front driver side, and him the back driver side of a four door vehicle. Why drive around like that? Was someone with them who had gone inside one of the nearby residences? The kid coming out of the backseat apparently was unharmed when he first exited the car and ran, so there appears to be a real chance he could have sat still and been left alive. The car had dark tinted windows. He had no police record and was a moto mechanic. He also apparently had no capacity to shoot back. Of course none of that proves he wasn't a gang member, but it's all curious. She had a history of drug arrests but no prison time. It doesn't say that they were boyfriend and girlfriend, that I could tell. Anyway RIP. Very sad for the children.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2456289]They never inadvertently get wrapped up with the wrong dude, this was her choice in life and I for one don't give them any get out of jail free card for making bad decisions and then don't take responsibility.

A sad situation true but at least she died alongside her gangsta boyfriend so she will be remembered by her friends and family as a woman who simply fulfilled her destiny in life. The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]There's no evidence that this guy running from the back seat after she fell out the driver side door and was subsequently shot down three blocks away was her boyfriend or was involved with gangs. He had no record and was a moto mechanic. Now you can claim some inside street knowledge to thus save face and justify jumping to conclusions, but we should all take that with a grain of salt. Save the condescension. Here's the article. The vid has already been posted.

[URL]https://www.qhubo.com/epaper/medellin/viewer.html?publication=Medellin&date=04_06_2020[/URL]#page /8.

I prefer the casas in laureles or wherever, tinder, lleras park, and use of a recruiter. But I guess if you want a change of pace boots on the ground, you can grind it out to get a few numbers and vamos. I could never get addicted to a gutter like atmosphere. The majority is unsanitize junkies and old ass chicks. But I can see how one with patience and a plan can make it work for them. One thing I love about the Dominican republic. You rarely see someone over 30 mongering. They retire and let the new breeds have their time. I would be very afraid to hangout in centro after dark. Question do some of the girls really get 100mil per session out there. Or I stood out as a gringo and she tried to get me as a sucker.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456628]This is a good time because typically a lot of the girls wouldn't come out until later, but the chicas are really hungry right now because the borders are closed and the quarantine put a dent in many of their pockets. They are just now really coming out in large numbers. I would suggest, if you see something you like, but don't like the numbers, get her info anyway because often a price can be negotiated later on. Also, be careful because there are a lot of youngins out there so try to verify age, if you have any doubts.[/QUOTE]

But I am used to slapshot sneaking a few jabs below the belt. My collections of numbers just increased 70 percent

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2456614]Now that is f'in hilarious! I am glad Blakman has a good sense of humor. I can picture it now![/QUOTE].

100 K in Plaza Botero is more than three times the going rate. Dominican workers older than 30 are not rare but I avoided them I think like you. Your instincts about Centro after dark are correct. I think you would find it easier to see past the undesirables to find the Pollo Negro and Surfer class providers once the sensory overload of being beyond the confines of escort sites, your apartment, and gringo centric neighborhood wears off. It is a big country that becomes more manageable and user friendly as you invest time discovering it on it's own terms.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456649]I prefer the casas in laureles or wherever, tinder, lleras park, and use of a recruiter. But I guess if you want a change of pace boots on the ground, you can grind it out to get a few numbers and vamos. I could never get addicted to a gutter like atmosphere. The majority is unsanitize junkies and old ass chicks. But I can see how one with patience and a plan can make it work for them. One thing I love about the Dominican republic. You rarely see someone over 30 mongering. They retire and let the new breeds have their time. I would be very afraid to hangout in centro after dark. Question do some of the girls really get 100mil per session out there. Or I stood out as a gringo and she tried to get me as a sucker.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456649] I stood out as a gringo and she tried to get me as a sucker.[/QUOTE]There's no way you could of stood out like a gringo or be treated like a sucker in El Centro, I just can't see that happening to you.

I would of loved to observed you walking around in El Centro, you were probably in a daze, doing double takes upon seeing some of Medellin's finest on display to partake in.

You seemed focused on the "chocolate chicks versus the candy girls" and missed out on one of the finest selection of deaf mutes, sacaleros, shemales, and pregnant Chicas in town, but probably most of them were occupied upstairs by other members of this board while you were taking your laps around the neighborhood.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456649]I prefer the casas in laureles or wherever, tinder, lleras park, and use of a recruiter. But I guess if you want a change of pace boots on the ground, you can grind it out to get a few numbers and vamos. I could never get addicted to a gutter like atmosphere. The majority is unsanitize junkies and old ass chicks. But I can see how one with patience and a plan can make it work for them. One thing I love about the Dominican republic. You rarely see someone over 30 mongering. They retire and let the new breeds have their time. I would be very afraid to hangout in centro after dark. Question do some of the girls really get 100mil per session out there. Or I stood out as a gringo and she tried to get me as a sucker.[/QUOTE]I feel you. I agree. I love the Sosua vibe as far as the atmosphere / environment and the talent age. I love the ocean and things to do around the beach.

Yeah, El Centro isn't for everyone. There are a lot of fatties and just plain busted chicas out there. Some diamonds in the ruff can definitely be found in El Centro, if you spend the time, but you can find smoking hot chicas without even having to leave your crib in Meddy. If you aren't into that grimy environment and have a decent budget, you don't need to be in that cesspool. Also, probably safer to avoid if you are concerned about Covid.

Personally, I think El Centro is best when you have a buddy or two and you guys are drinking a couple of beers and just hanging out. It can be a really fun time.

Are the casas in Laureles open these days? Which would you recommend?

81 a 34 a-15 has good performance girls but bioseguridad has affected the performance. Jimena, juliet, valentina are excellent. Jimena is a pornstar highly recommended. Chicapiasa will try this week. Theres another on 80 a. Frankly so many casas plus girls who have there private apartments. La 70 69 and I think 37 has attractive girls but it's only one floor with tight rooms. Energy I have been but didn't experience. Nice girls at high 160 mil. Nice atmosphere it seems. I love laureles wish I would have experienced the night life of la 70 being so close.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456702]I feel you. I agree. I love the Sosua vibe as far as the atmosphere / environment and the talent age. I love the ocean and things to do around the beach.

Yeah, El Centro isn't for everyone. There are a lot of fatties and just plain busted chicas out there. Some diamonds in the ruff can definitely be found in El Centro, if you spend the time, but you can find smoking hot chicas without even having to leave your crib in Meddy. If you aren't into that grimy environment and have a decent budget, you don't need to be in that cesspool. Also, probably safer to avoid if you are concerned about Covid.

Personally, I think El Centro is best when you have a buddy or two and you guys are drinking a couple of beers and just hanging out. It can be a really fun time.

Are the casas in Laureles open these days? Which would you recommend?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456615]
It's not for everybody, and what you experienced, along with your observations have pretty much been similar with numerous other posters.[/QUOTE]Well, at least MY observations were totally different ROFLMAO!

I agree theres better avenues but lighten up LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456698]There's no way you could of stood out like a gringo or be treated like a sucker in El Centro, I just can't see that happening to you.

I would of loved to observed you walking around in El Centro, you were probably in a daze, doing double takes upon seeing some of Medellin's finest on display to partake in.

You seemed focused on the "chocolate chicks versus the candy girls" and missed out on one of the finest selection of deaf mutes, sacaleros, shemales, and pregnant Chicas in town, but probably most of them were occupied upstairs by other members of this board while you were taking your laps around the neighborhood.[/QUOTE].

Very nice girl with a gigantic booty. I sorta had an inkling. She said she was staying at hotel in Centro, My headshould have been like ding ding.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2456596]Blakman you dashed the dreams of many mongers by exploding the urban myth that facebook and milerotico girls are a cut above centro street girls. That girl you recognized would shock the hell out of me if she did not accept 30 K for a quickie in the nearby love hotels.

Give it a few more tries, you will get used to being outside of your apartment.[/QUOTE].

Yes, she has some size to her.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456743]Very nice girl with a gigantic booty. I sorta had an inkling. She said she was staying at hotel in Centro, My headshould have been like ding ding..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456743]Very nice girl with a gigantic booty. I sorta had an inkling. She said she was staying at hotel in Centro, My headshould have been like ding ding..[/QUOTE]If your into "Big Booty's", than El Centro is calling you for a return visit.

There's quite a selection of over-sized girls with Hippo size booty's that you missed during your foray into El Centro that will make the girls picture you posted look like she has a tiny bubble gum butt of which you could place each one of her cheeks in the palm of your hand.

I just can't imagine banging a two ton Tessie, even a guy with a very long dick might not be able to penetrate one of these beasts, so they would just be pulsating in all the layers of fat, and riding them, or being ridden, or being suffocated, kind of like riding on a wave, or being in a bowl of jelly until they wipe out (come).

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456719]81 a 34 a-15 has good performance girls but bioseguridad has affected the performance. Jimena, juliet, valentina are excellent. Jimena is a pornstar highly recommended. Chicapiasa will try this week. Theres another on 80 a. Frankly so many casas plus girls who have there private apartments. La 70 69 and I think 37 has attractive girls but it's only one floor with tight rooms. Energy I have been but didn't experience. Nice girls at high 160 mil. Nice atmosphere it seems. I love laureles wish I would have experienced the night life of la 70 being so close.[/QUOTE]I know about Energy. Do the others have a name or just apartment type setups? I have been chillin with my stables but probably need to get some mongering in before September, if the border will open.

I'll just add one other belated point. Of course police suspicions as reported in a news article prove nothing, but assuming she was a low level drug pusher. What would all the guys in here talking up their pink tusi to bang hookers on do without her kind? More love and less holier than thou might be in order, for the latter actually accomplishes nothing.

Check mileroticos, they are all there. Also Luna Lunera moved out of the Portal La Castellana building on carrera 81 to a roomier apartment in LOS Colores. Add them on WhatsApp.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456783]I know about Energy. Do the others have a name or just apartment type setups? I have been chillin with my stables but probably need to get some mongering in before September, if the border will open.[/QUOTE]

Well I am not into fat girl booties or fake bootie or old over the hill booties. I don't know SURFER you lost me here. Cause that's the biggest bootie I have entertain here. And I don't think I would want any thing bigger. I think I did doggy probably 80% of the fucking on her.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456770]If your into "Big Booty's", than El Centro is calling you for a return visit.

There's quite a selection of over-sized girls with Hippo size booty's that you missed during your foray into El Centro that will make the girls picture you posted look like she has a tiny bubble gum butt of which you could place each one of her cheeks in the palm of your hand.

I just can't imagine banging a two ton Tessie, even a guy with a very long dick might not be able to penetrate one of these beasts, so they would just be pulsating in all the layers of fat, and riding them, or being ridden, or being suffocated, kind of like riding on a wave, or being in a bowl of jelly until they wipe out (come).[/QUOTE].

I had a scheduled date with a slim chocolate girl from tinder at around 1 pm. I was not sure about this girl whether she was serious or not so I prepared back up with another chocolate girl i met at lleras park. She is a lot more filled out than the slim girl. Very proportionate. 1 pm shows up no response from option 1. Next to option 2 for a 3 pm meet. Of course she's like 45 minutes late but looks tight in all the right places. Small boobs though. Just might type at least 5'11. Love them tall. She gives me a big hug. This is Our second go around. First time she made me cum so fast I honestly do not remember much of it. We do More hugging in the elevator. Get inside and She loves to dance. Coke soda for her no liquor because this is a one nut contract. I like 2 nuts. 70 mil and 20 mil taxi 2 hours. We smoke some weed. I clear the table and she voluntarily climbs aboard. She does a dance routine with clothes then I get her to strip. I am videotaping like this is my true profession. It's coming out fantastic and she's doing a great job. The chicks love when you take pics because your camera is most likely better than theirs then you what's app them the pics. Bonus points. Anyways the dance comes to an end. She's sitting at the edge of the table, flashing pussy. I eat her pussy a little then she takes control from this point on. Put on the condom and she sucks a little bit. Less than first time. Now she begins to ride me. Her tall proportionate body really is stimulating and she's riding me with different angles. From the looks of her, you would not expect such love making prowess. We head upstairs and we do doggy. She's making consistently loud noises and I am sure security is going to knock on the door but not today. We then go into missionary and same thing loud noises and I cannot nut. I go back to doggy cause her height and long legs gives me good leverage on the bed. I am stroking her good but I cannot cum. We Go back to missionary and still cannot cum. I Have her take the condom off to stroke my dick and still cannot cum. Finally I tell her to lay on her back and I stroke my dick off nutting on her tits. Afterwards, She ask to take a look at the video. Says you not going to show anyone and I say no. Minutes later she gives me back my camera. We Get dress and go downstairs have some grapes and chorros. Colombians love hot dogs LOL. We chat for a few and taxi arrive and she leaves. Very fulfilling sex. I hurry up to look at the video just to discover that be. I. t deleted it. I was so fucking pissed. I spent 2 hours trying to recover the video. No success. Anyone with knowledge chime in. It was a good video. Anyways that's my Sunday. Never be too nice to Colombian women and never give them your phone. My dumb ass should have learned that already.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2456808]Check mileroticos, they are all there. Also Luna Lunera moved out of the Portal La Castellana building on carrera 81 to a roomier apartment in LOS Colores. Add them on WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]Gotcha. I have that site bookmarked but never used it.

I do not blame you for being harsh on Centro. I would go back one more time but coronavirus has me hesitant. Have to think smart in these times.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456824]Well I am not into fat girl booties or fake bootie or old over the hill booties. I don't know SURFER you lost me here. Cause that's the biggest bootie I have entertain here. And I don't think I would want any thing bigger. I think I did doggy probably 80% of the fucking on her.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456743]Very nice girl with a gigantic booty. I sorta had an inkling. She said she was staying at hotel in Centro, My headshould have been like ding ding.

.[/QUOTE]Hey, I'm getting that right here in the U S of A. Maybe I should not be moping about not being able to leave town after all.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456935]I do not blame you for being harsh on Centro. I would go back one more time but coronavirus has me hesitant. Have to think smart in these times.[/QUOTE]Actually I wasn't being harsh on El Centro, it always has, and will always be, my playground in Medellin.

I'm pulling your leg most of the time, and have seen a lot of weird stuff in El Centro, and it has evolved and changed over the years. The biggest change has been the influx of Venezuelans over the past three years. Everything I have posted about existing in El Centro is true, except any inference of course that you would partake in any of the Hippos or She-males or other undesirable Chicas there!

On a more serious note, I, like you, am concerned about being exposed to the virus in El Centro when I return hopefully this Fall. Lot's of the girls that work the area live in barrios in cramped quarter's, ride the buses into town, are hanging outside exposed to countless people, and are in and out of hotel rooms, so it makes sense that the odds of being exposed are going to be higher than one on one encounters with Chicas like you have been doing at your apartment which is a safer bet, at least numbers wise, versus pulling them off the streets in El Centro.

This is a dilemma for me, it is for you, and others moving forward, especially for those who frequent El Centro. I, and other mongers I know are getting fed up with all of this pandemic crap and are about to throw caution to the wind.

Perhaps others have some perspective (s) on this, as nobody has really brought this issue up on this thread.

This will annoy a few and someone will probably tell me I've got it all wrong. But it might make sense to some.

Until recently, most of my online interaction with the chicas has been rather to the point. I'll throw in a few compliments, but just the basic stuff. However, there's really no immediate point for my current conversations. No citas at least until fall. With the regular working girls, this isn't a problem. I give them a short response telling them I'll let them know when I'm in Medellin.

However, I've got a growing group of non-pros, and most want to chat almost every day. Fortunately, they're mostly students, middle class and able to follow a conversation. One benefit, it's helping my Spanish. It's also forcing me to develop some game.

Practically every woman we deal with has dreamed of being a princess. They want happily ever after with Prince Charming. Most will happily accept a lot less, for a few hours for a price. Others will never accept a direct cash transaction, but they'll open right up if you're charming, even if you're 40 years older and fat.

Disclaimer: this probably qualifies as simping.

As we all know "mor" is the mating call of every Paisa. You can use that, or amor and they'll like it. Here are some other words which they'll like: princesa, cielo, corazon, vida, preciosa. Princess, heaven, heart, life and precious. Vida should be preceded by "mi.'

When you add on "mi" or "mio" it multiplies the result. "Amor, como estás?" "Love, how are you?" Or "Como estás amor mio?" The first is pretty generic, the last one is more intimate.

If you sprinkle those in your conversation you'll notice a change in attitude. Even the hardest puta will soften up when you send a message like "he estado pensando en ti mi princesa. " I've been thinking about you my princess. Now instead of haggling over how much she will get and what she will do, she's thinking princess thoughts. You move from just another customer to a potential prince.

I don't miss an opportunity to toss out a bit of sweetness now. Even if it's just to tell someone I'm not interested in buying their pictures, I'll drop an amor or 2. It seems to back them away from the begging quicker.

The results have been very good. One semi-retired puta who I frequently talk to, melted when I called her "mi vida. " The "model" has gone from being a bit standoffish to daily passionate messages ever since I began calling her "mi princesa. " Before I was getting a bikini pic 3 times a week. Now I'm getting a video 3 times a day, complete with excellent audio. I don't even ask. Just a "que haces princesa?" and 1 minute later there's a new finger banging video waiting for me.

If all the conversations are just to set up a date, you don't want to go overboard, but the process may go better if you flirt a bit. Make her feel just a bit special and she's likely to give you a better time than if you stick straight to business.

If you're looking for something a bit longer term, or trying to talk a non-pro into bed, start slow and build up to it. Right now I'm laying it on thick and every one of them is eating it up.

If you're dealing with someone who is hardcore into the sex and kinks, use "mojadita" and "perversita. " My little wet girl or my little pervert. Avoid "Zorra", fox. In Colombia it generally refers to a ****.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456957]

Perhaps others have some perspective (s) on this, as nobody has really brought this issue up on this thread.[/QUOTE]It has been brought up before. It is definitely a concern for those that are worried about the virus here in Medellin. The military has been in certain barrios recently to enforce social distancing and prevent people from affecting other areas.

Actually, we've been through this subject. I think the coronavirus risk associated with making your way to Centro is right up there with the risk of partaking there. In Blakman's report he mentioned a girl he was with in his apartment that he saw when he visited Centro. I happen to know that is not a unique or even very unusual situation. All the same, here we are stressing about how much more virus risk there is in Centro.

Let's pretend Blakman did not see what I'm sure I'm not the only one to know is true. Let's pretend there is no possibility a Lleras / Gustos / Tiner / facebook girl you summon to your apartment for whatever cost would take public transportation or come into contact with someone who does, or use a taxi that hundreds of other people use all day, or live in a crowded barrio, or party at a clandestine nightspot without wearing a mask or dousing herself in disinfectant. Let's pretend all of that and then ask ourselves if we are or if we were in Europe or the US or wherever would we really be locked in our houses with duct tape on all the doors and windows.

I don't remember who it was but back in March just after the quarantine was announced somebody said they were glad they were in the US because of worries about civil unrest. That didn't age well. Meanwhile, here in Medellin, all shopping centers are authorized to reopen subject to the "health precautions" that are less strict every day. See the photo for a feel of what Centro looks like now. It is the infamous Opera Mall on Maracaibo and Palace, where stolen cell phones and computers are parted out and resold. There and at other places of business (including casas) the health measures have become props in the theater of virus prevention. A security guy takes your temperature and squirts disinfectant on your hands, then asks you to step into a pedicure style tray of disinfectant to wet the soles of your shoes. I'm told the Poblado malls are more strict.

So my advice is to do what is comfortable but don't overdo anything. I think once you are back here you will not notice much change from when you left. Saturday when I snapped that picture outside Opera Mall I noticed people sitting at tables eating and drinking at a few small restaurants. That isn't allowed but it's happening. I also noticed behind Veracruz some of the bars are open but they aren't letting the girls sit inside.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456957]Actually I wasn't being harsh on El Centro, it always has, and will always be, my playground in Medellin.

I'm pulling your leg most of the time, and have seen a lot of weird stuff in El Centro, and it has evolved and changed over the years. The biggest change has been the influx of Venezuelans over the past three years. Everything I have posted about existing in El Centro is true, except any inference of course that you would partake in any of the Hippos or She-males or other undesirable Chicas there![/QUOTE]

Yes you shouldn't be moping. You should be happy to be alive. I am fortunate to be in Colombia during quarantine and I happy just fucking 3 7 or 8's that shockingly provided great service. I am quite sure you would have fuck 20 by now. Also I am ecstatic about fucking about 60 average chicks who gave me great service as well. Never mope man laugh is too short.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2456938]Hey, I'm getting that right here in the U S of A. Maybe I should not be moping about not being able to leave town after all.[/QUOTE].

I think your flirting expressions are pretty accurate but I don't think it much matters as long as you pony up 50 K to 100 K plus uber.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456966]This will annoy a few and someone will probably tell me I've got it all wrong. But it might make sense to some.

Until recently, most of my online interaction with the chicas has been rather to the point. I'll throw in a few compliments, but just the basic stuff. However, there's really no immediate point for my current conversations. No citas at least until fall. With the regular working girls, this isn't a problem. I give them a short response telling them I'll let them know when I'm in Medellin.

However, I've got a growing group of non-pros, and most want to chat almost every day. Fortunately, they're mostly students, middle class and able to follow a conversation. One benefit, it's helping my Spanish. It's also forcing me to develop some game.

Practically every woman we deal with has dreamed of being a princess. They want happily ever after with Prince Charming. Most will happily accept a lot less, for a few hours for a price. Others will never accept a direct cash transaction, but they'll open right up if you're charming, even if you're 40 years older and fat.

Disclaimer: this probably qualifies as simping..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456966]This will annoy a few and someone will probably tell me I've got it all wrong. But it might make sense to some.

Until recently, most of my online interaction with the chicas has been rather to the point. I'll throw in a few compliments, but just the basic stuff. However, there's really no immediate point for my current conversations. No citas at least until fall. With the regular working girls, this isn't a problem. I give them a short response telling them I'll let them know when I'm in Medellin.

However, I've got a growing group of non-pros, and most want to chat almost every day. Fortunately, they're mostly students, middle class and able to follow a conversation. One benefit, it's helping my Spanish. It's also forcing me to develop some game.

Practically every woman we deal with has dreamed of being a princess. They want happily ever after with Prince Charming. Most will happily accept a lot less, for a few hours for a price. Others will never accept a direct cash transaction, but they'll open right up if you're charming, even if you're 40 years older and fat..[/QUOTE]Spot on advice and so true. Problem is that we as gringos get at times so inundated with whatsapp messages along with Tinder, SA, Facebook PM, etc. That we can become complacent and forget what a few simple extra words could do to ignite a spark in these chicas.

Great reminder, thanks.

The Tall Man.

El Centro, and other populated areas, would be risky area even without a contact with working girls. The area is highly-populated, the people are highly interactive for commercial activities, and they lack education and information about social-distancing. You would want to be careful especially if you are old, diabetic and / or overweight.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456957]Actually I wasn't being harsh on El Centro, it always has, and will always be, my playground in Medellin.

I'm pulling your leg most of the time, and have seen a lot of weird stuff in El Centro, and it has evolved and changed over the years. The biggest change has been the influx of Venezuelans over the past three years. Everything I have posted about existing in El Centro is true, except any inference of course that you would partake in any of the Hippos or She-males or other undesirable Chicas there!

On a more serious note, I, like you, am concerned about being exposed to the virus in El Centro when I return hopefully this Fall. Lot's of the girls that work the area live in barrios in cramped quarter's, ride the buses into town, are hanging outside exposed to countless people, and are in and out of hotel rooms, so it makes sense that the odds of being exposed are going to be higher than one on one encounters with Chicas like you have been doing at your apartment which is a safer bet, at least numbers wise, versus pulling them off the streets in El Centro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2456957]Actually I wasn't being harsh on El Centro, it always has, and will always be, my playground in Medellin.

I'm pulling your leg most of the time, and have seen a lot of weird stuff in El Centro, and it has evolved and changed over the years. The biggest change has been the influx of Venezuelans over the past three years. Everything I have posted about existing in El Centro is true, except any inference of course that you would partake in any of the Hippos or She-males or other undesirable Chicas there!

On a more serious note, I, like you, am concerned about being exposed to the virus in El Centro when I return hopefully this Fall. Lot's of the girls that work the area live in barrios in cramped quarter's, ride the buses into town, are hanging outside exposed to countless people, and are in and out of hotel rooms, so it makes sense that the odds of being exposed are going to be higher than one on one encounters with Chicas like you have been doing at your apartment which is a safer bet, at least numbers wise, versus pulling them off the streets in El Centro.

This is a dilemma for me, it is for you, and others moving forward, especially for those who frequent El Centro. I, and other mongers I know are getting fed up with all of this pandemic crap and are about to throw caution to the wind.

Perhaps others have some perspective (s) on this, as nobody has really brought this issue up on this thread.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid to bring the issue up on this thread. I'd hate to see it turn into another shitstorm.

However, one point to consider, UV light and Vitamin the have a positive effect on reducing the spread of the virus. I doubt there are many of the daytime girls with a Vitamin the deficiency and at that altitude there's plenty of UV light getting through.

That might possibly reduce your risk of direct transmission from the girls. On the flip side, how good of a disinfecting job will the short time hotels do? I think, to reduce the risk, you're better off renting a place in El Centro so you can make sure to disinfect after each one.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456971]It has been brought up before. It is definitely a concern for those that are worried about the virus here in Medellin. The military has been in certain barrios recently to enforce social distancing and prevent people from affecting other areas.[/QUOTE]Yes, I heard that Comuna 2 Santa Cruz was locked down because of all the infections. As far as anyone worrying about the virus in Medellin I know others must be, what's your opinion on this.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456995]I'm afraid to bring the issue up on this thread. I'd hate to see it turn into another shitstorm.

However, one point to consider, UV light and Vitamin the have a positive effect on reducing the spread of the virus. I doubt there are many of the daytime girls with a Vitamin the deficiency and at that altitude there's plenty of UV light getting through.

That might possibly reduce your risk of direct transmission from the girls. On the flip side, how good of a disinfecting job will the short time hotels do? I think, to reduce the risk, you're better off renting a place in El Centro so you can make sure to disinfect after each one.[/QUOTE]What you have posted should not cause any static. 100% common sense.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456995]I'm afraid to bring the issue up on this thread. I'd hate to see it turn into another shitstorm.

However, one point to consider, UV light and Vitamin the have a positive effect on reducing the spread of the virus. I doubt there are many of the daytime girls with a Vitamin the deficiency and at that altitude there's plenty of UV light getting through.

That might possibly reduce your risk of direct transmission from the girls. On the flip side, how good of a disinfecting job will the short time hotels do? I think, to reduce the risk, you're better off renting a place in El Centro so you can make sure to disinfect after each one.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you won't have to worry about starting another shit show here, but perhaps you and can share a little more on the correlation of altitude and UV light. I read this somewhere else, but it was inconclusive, and as your aware Bogota is at a higher altitude then Medellin, but isn't faring as well but that could be based on other reasons. As far as vitamins, I recently read an article that consuming Vitamin K was help-full but am confused in your post about which "Vitamin" and deficiency.

So here's the question I have for you, whether the altitude helps, and so do the vitamins, if a girl is infected, how are these two factors going to reduce transmission if neither party are wearing N95 respirators.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2456992]El Centro, and other populated areas, would be risky area even without a contact with working girls. The area is highly-populated, the people are highly interactive for commercial activities, and they lack education and information about social-distancing. You would want to be careful especially if you are old, diabetic and / or overweight.[/QUOTE]You may have just described a good portion of the mongers on this board by being either old and / or fat! I fall into one of those two categories.

I'm going to guess based on your post that you would be staying clear of El Centro?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2456975]Actually, we've been through this subject. I think the coronavirus risk associated with making your way to Centro is right up there with the risk of partaking there. In Blakman's report he mentioned a girl he was with in his apartment that he saw when he visited Centro. I happen to know that is not a unique or even very unusual situation. All the same, here we are stressing about how much more virus risk there is in Centro.

Let's pretend Blakman did not see what I'm sure I'm not the only one to know is true. Let's pretend there is no possibility a Lleras / Gustos / Tiner / facebook girl you summon to your apartment for whatever cost would take public transportation or come into contact with someone who does, or use a taxi that hundreds of other people use all day, or live in a crowded barrio, or party at a clandestine nightspot without wearing a mask or dousing herself in disinfectant. Let's pretend all of that and then ask ourselves if we are or if we were in Europe or the US or wherever would we really be locked in our houses with duct tape on all the doors and windows.

I don't remember who it was but back in March just after the quarantine was announced somebody said they were glad they were in the US because of worries about civil unrest. That didn't age well. Meanwhile, here in Medellin, all shopping centers are authorized to reopen subject to the "health precautions" that are less strict every day. See the photo for a feel of what Centro looks like now. It is the infamous Opera Mall on Maracaibo and Palace, where stolen cell phones and computers are parted out and resold. There and at other places of business (including casas) the health measures have become props in the theater of virus prevention. A security guy takes your temperature and squirts disinfectant on your hands, then asks you to step into a pedicure style tray of disinfectant to wet the soles of your shoes. I'm told the Poblado malls are more strict..[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more, except on one point. What's happening, both in Medellin, and in many parts of the USA since the lock-downs, is that there are a lot people who are just totally fed-up and have had enough of the Pandemic, and are just saying "screw it", or "whatever", and just want things to return to normal. As far as not overdoing anything upon returning, well that's not going to happen.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456966]This will annoy a few and someone will probably tell me I've got it all wrong. But it might make sense to some.

Disclaimer: this probably qualifies as simping.

As we all know "mor" is the mating call of every Paisa. You can use that, or amor and they'll like it. Here are some other words which they'll like: princesa, cielo, corazon, vida, preciosa. Princess, heaven, heart, life and precious. Vida should be preceded by "mi.'

When you add on "mi" or "mio" it multiplies the result. "Amor, como ests?" "Love, how are you?" Or "Como ests amor mio?" The first is pretty generic, the last one is more intimate.

If you sprinkle those in your conversation you'll notice a change in attitude. Even the hardest puta will soften up when you send a message like "he estado pensando en ti mi princesa. " I've been thinking about you my princess. Now instead of haggling over how much she will get and what she will do, she's thinking princess thoughts. You move from just another customer to a potential prince.

I don't miss an opportunity to toss out a bit of sweetness now. Even if it's just to tell someone I'm not interested in buying their pictures, I'll drop an amor or 2. It seems to back them away from the begging quicker.

The results have been very good. One semi-retired puta who I frequently talk to, melted when I called her "mi vida. " The "model" has gone from being a bit standoffish to daily passionate messages ever since I began calling her "mi princesa. " Before I was getting a bikini pic 3 times a week. Now I'm getting a video 3 times a day, complete with excellent audio. I don't even ask. Just a "que haces princesa?" and 1 minute later there's a new finger banging video waiting for me.

If all the conversations are just to set up a date, you don't want to go overboard, but the process may go better if you flirt a bit. Make her feel just a bit special and she's likely to give you a better time than if you stick straight to business.

If you're looking for something a bit longer term, or trying to talk a non-pro into bed, start slow and build up to it. Right now I'm laying it on thick and every one of them is eating it up.

If you're dealing with someone who is hardcore into the sex and kinks, use "mojadita" and "perversita. " My little wet girl or my little pervert. Avoid "Zorra", fox. In Colombia it generally refers to a ****.[/QUOTE]Man you are spot on!

Colombia is king of sweet talk! LOL.

I began visiting and semi-living in Colombia about 20 years ago.

Until I discovered Brazil about 10 years ago, which is a whole different vibe, I was Colombia exclusive.

I remember as a newbie in Colombia, after knowing any girl, whether it be a señorita seria, buena, or una de la calle, or even the señoras for 5 minutes, they'd be be calling me mi amor, mi Rey, corazn, etc etc.

I was like, wow, I dig this!

Colombia is king of the superficial love talk.

Like you say; guys should jump right in and join the club.

Learn the love and cariño lingo.

You'll fit right in!

Brazil I've found is the land of sensuality and sexy sex.

Like they say, muito gostoso, like muy rico en spanish, but with a flair.

My take on the "simp" talk.

Total BS. LOL.

Should be, "don't be an idiot".

Simp away I say.

I'm into being cool, nice, affectionate, alegre, happy.

I treat everyone nice, however, one has to know when to say No, raise the BS flag.

And you can do that in a cool, but direct way as well.

Girls, and everyone really respect that.

They know when they're taking advantage, it's a part of their way.

When you show them that you may be a Simp, LOL, but know what the frig you're doing, and know when enough is enough, they know that you know, and usually, all is good.

Look forward to the opening, like everyone else.

For now, my latest catch here in the US, is a beautiful young Chocolate girl, 21, and she is keeping me smiling.

For now, LOL.

This foto is of my (US) girl. Yeah I know this is Colombia forum, but WTF, Lol. 😉

[QUOTE=Balboa;2457058]Man you are spot on!

Colombia is king of sweet talk! LOL.

I began visiting and semi-living in Colombia about 20 years ago.

Until I discovered Brazil about 10 years ago, which is a whole different vibe, I was Colombia exclusive.

I remember as a newbie in Colombia, after knowing any girl, whether it be a seorita seria, buena, or una de la calle, or even the seoras for 5 minutes, they'd be be calling me mi amor, mi Rey, corazn, etc etc.

I was like, wow, I dig this!

Colombia is king of the superficial love talk.

Like you say; guys should jump right in and join the club..[/QUOTE]I'm with on everything there. Although it's all long distance at the moment, it certainly seems to be making a huge difference in the reactions I'm getting.

Just for fun, this is the one I call the Model.

Maybe we really are getting back to normal. I can't remember the last time this happened. Fifteen minutes into the nightly Caracol 7 PM news and there has been no mention of coronavirus yet. The big lead stories are the ex Governer of Antioquia's legal woes, Generals gone rogue, and riots in USA.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2457034]Yes, I heard that Comuna 2 Santa Cruz was locked down because of all the infections. As far as anyone worrying about the virus in Medellin I know others must be, what's your opinion on this.[/QUOTE]We have been under a draconian quarantine since mid March. The Economist Magazine and others have given Medellin praise for its handling of the virus. I haven't been following it too closely but I think I've seen headlines in the local press that the peak will happen in July / August, but since our boarders are closed until at least September, hopefully it won't be too bad. Medellin seems to be doing better than other parts of the country. That being said, self quarantines for tourists when they are allowed into the country might be in place.

Great advice from JjBee. I haven't been to Medellin but lived in Bogota for 7 months. Had too much fun in Santa Fe. Will definitely head to Medellin when the borders open up.

I would buy a 3 pack of chocolate bars (Casino brand) from Carulla for about $3-$4 dollars and give one to a girl I liked or repeated with as a treat. What girl doesn't like chocolate? The girls were excited to receive it and became more enthusiastic. Most of these girls don't shop at Carulla so they don't know it's cheap. I wasn't giving out chocolate bars to everyone. This process was beneficial, Troya and Paisas club girls would head to my nearby hotel (1 block away) before their shift for a more relaxed session. I abhor that knock on the door at the clubs.

Every girl is different, but a little flirting, jokes, or an unexpected small gift will get them to open up. At least for me, it's better than a mechanical session. I avoid the girls that are bitchy or bad sessions. It's funny how those are the girls that are always trying to get you to session with them again or aggressively looking for new clients.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2457069]Maybe we really are getting back to normal. I can't remember the last time this happened. Fifteen minutes into the nightly Caracol 7 PM news and there has been no mention of coronavirus yet. The big lead stories are the ex Governer of Antioquia's legal woes, Generals gone rogue, and riots in USA.[/QUOTE]I just wish one day very soon you will let us know that they will open the border on 6/31/2020.

Sorry. But when I tell a chick Hello, how are you doing and they respond back with Hello, my handsome love. How are you doing handsome sweetie, I can not trick myself into believing she really digs me. That shit goes in one ear and out the other. I'll just sit back and wait until they show their hand. Call me a skeptic all you want.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2456743]Very nice girl with a gigantic booty. I sorta had an inkling. She said she was staying at hotel in Centro, My headshould have been like ding ding.

.[/QUOTE]Damn! That's like the friend's mama Zohan banged LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2457113]Sorry. But when I tell a chick Hello, how are you doing and they respond back with Hello, my handsome love. How are you doing handsome sweetie, I can not trick myself into believing she really digs me. That shit goes in one ear and out the other. I'll just sit back and wait until they show their hand. Call me a skeptic all you want.[/QUOTE]This quarantine must be hitting you hard Mr. E. You used to be able to read and understand the posts. What happened?

I don't think I said anything about believing the chica compliments. I just mentioned that they all do it. Why would any monger believe it when a woman 30-40 years younger starts talking about how handsome he is?

What I wrote about was complimenting the women. All of them eat it up. Lay on a few compliments, drop a couple mi amors and you won't even have to pay them to say Te amo.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2457058]Man you are spot on!

Colombia is king of sweet talk! LOL.

I began visiting and semi-living in Colombia about 20 years ago.

Until I discovered Brazil about 10 years ago, which is a whole different vibe, I was Colombia exclusive.

I remember as a newbie in Colombia, after knowing any girl, whether it be a seorita seria, buena, or una de la calle, or even the seoras for 5 minutes, they'd be be calling me mi amor, mi Rey, corazn, etc etc.

I was like, wow, I dig this!

Colombia is king of the superficial love talk.

Like you say; guys should jump right in and join the club.

Learn the love and cario lingo.

You'll fit right in!

Brazil I've found is the land of sensuality and sexy sex.

Like they say, muito gostoso, like muy rico en spanish, but with a flair.

My take on the "simp" talk.

Total BS. LOL.

Should be, "don't be an idiot".

Simp away I say.

I'm into being cool, nice, affectionate, alegre, happy.

I treat everyone nice, however, one has to know when to say No, raise the BS flag.

And you can do that in a cool, but direct way as well.

Girls, and everyone really respect that.

They know when they're taking advantage, it's a part of their way.

When you show them that you may be a Simp, LOL, but know what the frig you're doing, and know when enough is enough, they know that you know, and usually, all is good.

Look forward to the opening, like everyone else.

For now, my latest catch here in the US, is a beautiful young Chocolate girl, 21, and she is keeping me smiling.

For now, LOL.

This foto is of my (US) girl. Yeah I know this is Colombia forum, but WTF, Lol. 😉[/QUOTE]The comparison with Brazil is interesting. Sex is more important to the Brazilian than it is to any other people in the world. However, on many occasions in Colombia non-pro women would stop me in the street to ask me something or the other. Every time that happened I cursed myself for lack of Spanish speaking skills. I cannot recall ever being stopped on the streets by a woman in Brazil to be asked a question.

JjBee62 post gave me a good idea; I've been using covid lockdown to learn to speak Spanish. I will now join a site to initiate video calls with Colombian chicas to improve my Espanol. Hopefully in my next visit to Medellin I might have more luck with non-pros.

Though I am visiting or staying at the Veracruz area since the last century, I am not visiting the area this year. I said that people should be careful "especially", not "only", for the three categories I mentioned. I am not in any of the these categories.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2457048]You may have just described a good portion of the mongers on this board by being either old and / or fat! I fall into one of those two categories.

I'm going to guess based on your post that you would be staying clear of El Centro?[/QUOTE]

I agree if you are looking for a more relaxed GFE session and want to encourage the chica to come back. I buy good chocolate in the US and its not expensive $2 -3 per bar. Give them some chocolate and VS / Pink panties. This is a good way for non pros to get their pants off. Ask them to model for you. On sale the panties are like $3-4 each. I prefer to build a repor and not go for the massive quantity of chicas. I think there is something to be said for a comfort level with the chicas. Also knowing Spanish is the biggest advantage to the whole process.

[QUOTE=JonSnow1;2457079]Great advice from JjBee. I haven't been to Medellin but lived in Bogota for 7 months. Had too much fun in Santa Fe. Will definitely head to Medellin when the borders open up.

I would buy a 3 pack of chocolate bars (Casino brand) from Carulla for about $3-$4 dollars and give one to a girl I liked or repeated with as a treat. What girl doesn't like chocolate? The girls were excited to receive it and became more enthusiastic. Most of these girls don't shop at Carulla so they don't know it's cheap. I wasn't giving out chocolate bars to everyone. This process was beneficial, Troya and Paisas club girls would head to my nearby hotel (1 block away) before their shift for a more relaxed session. I abhor that knock on the door at the clubs.

Every girl is different, but a little flirting, jokes, or an unexpected small gift will get them to open up. At least for me, it's better than a mechanical session. I avoid the girls that are bitchy or bad sessions. It's funny how those are the girls that are always trying to get you to session with them again or aggressively looking for new clients.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2457124]This quarantine must be hitting you hard Mr. E. You used to be able to read and understand the posts. What happened?

I don't think I said anything about believing the chica compliments. I just mentioned that they all do it.[/QUOTE]LOL. It must be hitting you harder, because neither did I quote you for you to be saying what you did or didn't say. You were not the only person that said something on the subject and I quoted nobody. I was merely interjecting.

First I need a guarantee someone will bring me a shipment of chocolate and dollar store panties so I can have higher quality encounters.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2457094]I just wish one day very soon you will let us know that they will open the border on 6/31/2020.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2457094]I just wish one day very soon you will let us know that they will open the border on 6/31/2020.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately as reported by Knowledge that things on the ground in Medellin are coming back to normal before his eye's, the Colombian government has said it's borders are closed until September 1, but that's not to say they may open up sooner as it is just short of three months away from now, and every thing has been a moving target.

We're just going to just have to be patient thru the wait, as agonizing as it is. Your not alone here.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2457034]Yes, I heard that Comuna 2 Santa Cruz was locked down because of all the infections. As far as anyone worrying about the virus in Medellin I know others must be, what's your opinion on this.[/QUOTE]Things are definitely being taken seriously. I met a nice Venezolana today, but this is the message in Plaza Botero. It would not surprise me if tourism gets pushed back, depending on what the numbers look like here and in other countries.

Jet Blue has yet to cancel my 7/2 - 7/10 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to MDE. In fact, they called me today and left a message about a time change. I wonder if they are expecting something to change? We shall see.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2457223]Unfortunately as reported by Knowledge that things on the ground in Medellin are coming back to normal before his eye's, the Colombian government has said it's borders are closed until September 1, but that's not to say they may open up sooner as it is just short of three months away from now, and every thing has been a moving target.

We're just going to just have to be patient thru the wait, as agonizing as it is. Your not alone here.[/QUOTE]

That could happen. The test result rate has been holding steady nationally for the past month. There are hotspots here and there that local authorities can lock down as needed. Today in the problem Bogota barrio of Kennedy the city set up walk up testing tents. I suspect it's the mayor's response to withering criticism from starving locals. If the results show decreased cases she would relax restrictions (they are under 24/7 lockdown with few exceptions) or she will use poor results as reasoning to keep the restrictions in place. If the national numbers take a sharp turn toward the better an earlier opening is not out of the question. Anything short of a collapse of the health system or a very sharp spike in deaths will make it extremely difficult to prolong travel restriction beyond September.

Also, by the way, the mayor of Medellin announced today that restaurants can open for full dine in service as soon as the President authorizes it. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I see people eating and drinking in sit down restaurants already around town.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2457290]Jet Blue has yet to cancel my 7/2 - 7/10 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to MDE. In fact, they called me today and left a message about a time change. I wonder if they are expecting something to change? We shall see.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2457290]Jet Blue has yet to cancel my 7/2 - 7/10 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to MDE. In fact, they called me today and left a message about a time change. I wonder if they are expecting something to change? We shall see.[/QUOTE]I saw that flight too. I'm debating whether to book it or not. Medellin is an Airbnb gold mine right now. I don't mind going through the annoying refund process if things doesn't work out. What I don't want to live through is the disappointment that comes along with the cancellation.

Michell hit me up this AM. She's the 19 yo mulatto from Tinder who I hooked up with on Saturday. Big natural tits and a strong sex drive. We agreed on noon and she showed up right on time.

She did a module of Duolingo on her ipad, which was required for one of her classes, and I helped her. Then we headed to the bedroom. She asked for a massage, and I obliged, with coconut oil. About two minutes in, she was propping her ass up and asking for attention on her pussy and asshole. I only massaged her left thigh and her pussy before she was begging so suck my cock. She sucked me good and then begged to be fucked. I gave it to her doggy and flipped her over to finish on her tits and face, an admittedly early pop.

In the morning, I had channeled my inner Blakman, and walked to the sex shop and bought a Hitachi. The Wanachi Body Recharger. I offered it to Michell and invited her to the living room to watch porn. We converted the sofa to a bed and I plugged in the HDMI and pornhub and we watched a lesbian scene. Then a lesbian squirt scene. While Michell was pleasing herself with the vibrator. Then we watched a boy-girl scene, Belle Knox. Michell headed to the wood laminate floor and begged to be fucked in doggy while we watched Belle get slayed. After some time, and doing my best to hold back, Michell turned over to sit down and finished herself with the vibrator and gushed a big squirt onto the floor, then asked me to finish on her face. I lived like a fucking porn star today, more than I ever have.

We then ordered in some chinese food and Michell did her thing on my Tinder while we waited. Tinder is work, so I appreciate her sending out messages for me. She is also actively looking for another girl for a threesome, although after showing her photos of my girlfriend, Michell would prefer one with her. Michell wants to be our submissive third, she likes that we're both older than her. But I still don't think it will happen. She also told me that she wants me to prepare her for her first anal. Meaning, she wants me to buy her a butt plug like we saw in a Rocco scene and use it until she's ready for me to pop her ass cherry.

We ate lunch and watched a movie and early on, she gave me a blowjob. At the end of the movie, she asked to be fucked. She propped her ass up and it took me some minutes to get hard but I got to work and rammed her in doggy only and finished on her back.

We showered again and she settled into my arms on the couch and was on Instagram and by then it was 6 pm and I suggested that I order a taxi. I asked her what kind of of "support" she wanted and she replied "como tu quireres," how you want. I gave her 150 mil and she was happy, and I paid for her uber home, $2.33.

Viva Colombia.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2457315]I saw that flight too. I'm debating whether to book it or not. Medellin is an Airbnb gold mine right now. I don't mind going through the annoying refund process if things doesn't work out. What I don't want to live through is the disappointment that comes along with the cancellation.[/QUOTE]It's highly unlikely the Country will be opened up within a month, let alone not having an extensive vetting program for entry.

This month there are humanitarian flights being arranged in conjunction with Colombia Immigration for Colombian citizens and residents wanting to return to Colombia with strict permitting and bio-safety protocols including a two week quarantine period for all. Very few Countries are open right now with the exception of European Countries with no testing and / or quarantine requirements. And the requirements for visitors depend on the Country. Greece is open to Europeans, but if your coming from the USA and other Countries it requires testing and a one week quarantine. Iceland is an exception, you show up, get tested, if negative, your free to go without being quarantined. Don't be surprised to see a very rigid set of rules for re-entry into the Country when it opens. Of course the best case scenario would be for Colombia to do what Iceland is doing, and as an alternative what Greece is doing. Before planning a return trip to Colombia you really need to know what the entry requirements will be. As far as Airbnb listings, there will be plenty to go around at bargain basement prices. Again, your just going to have to be patient. The good news is that when you finally get back, there will be no shortage of women for everyone.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2457290]Jet Blue has yet to cancel my 7/2 - 7/10 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to MDE. In fact, they called me today and left a message about a time change. I wonder if they are expecting something to change? We shall see.[/QUOTE]I fail to see how you think that is going to happen. I am in Barranquilla. Only 25% of the businesses are open. Travel between cities is only happening if you have good reason and they allow you. Buses running between cities will happen before planes will be allowed in Colombia. Spirit and Jet Blue have the highest late arrivals, departures, and cancellations and are know to do it at the last minute. Spirit did it too me 1 hour before departure. Look at the arrival, departure, and cancellation on the screen the next few times you are waiting at the airport and you will see what I am taking about.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457332]
We then ordered in some chinese food
Viva Colombia.[/QUOTE]Well, how the fuck was it?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2457290]Jet Blue has yet to cancel my 7/2 - 7/10 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to MDE. In fact, they called me today and left a message about a time change. I wonder if they are expecting something to change? We shall see.[/QUOTE]I talked to a Paisa today who is on a humanitarian flight from Cancun to Bogota, tomorrow. Not sure how frequently those have been happening. I'm not saying it's an indicator of anything tourism-related, but it's the first I've heard of.

Those humanitarian flights have been happening regularly since the quarantine began in March. They are an indication of Colombians who need to get back to Colombia for lack of work and money.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2457388]Well, how the fuck was it?

I talked to a Paisa today who is on a humanitarian flight from Cancun to Bogota, tomorrow. Not sure how frequently those have been happening. I'm not saying it's an indicator of anything tourism-related, but it's the first I've heard of.[/QUOTE]

I think Jet Blue is stalling so they don't have to refund. As of today the September 1 date is the soonest confirmed for inbound flights. Once an airline cancels they must refund but they will encourage you to reschedule or accept a voucher.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2457290]Jet Blue has yet to cancel my 7/2 - 7/10 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to MDE. In fact, they called me today and left a message about a time change. I wonder if they are expecting something to change? We shall see.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2457450]I think Jet Blue is stalling so they don't have to refund.[/QUOTE]Spot on! FINALLY someone has said it! This is so obvious. I wonder why only you has pointed out such an obvious fact. There must be a reason why Jet Blue's fares are the cheapest! There's no free dinner for anyone.

It's almost sure that there will be no flight, or no permission to fly unless for very sound reasons (patronizing the cafeterias in Parque Berrio is not a valid reason for Immigration Authorities). COVID will not disappear so quickly, and we will be happy and lucky if in July propagation will be not rampant as before. Jet BLue is simply delaying as much as possible the cancellation. The more they keep the flight on schedule, the less money they lose (and more fishes will fall into their net buying new tickets).

When I travelled from USA to Colombia, most cases via Florida, I have always flew with Delta or Avianca and never considered to buy a ticket from Jet Blue. Better pay more but be safe and have a valid ticket in my hands. I don't want to gamble a lottery when I travel, for business or my personal leisure.

File a complaint to Department of Transportation, and Federal Trade Commission.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2457290]Jet Blue has yet to cancel my 7/2 - 7/10 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to MDE. In fact, they called me today and left a message about a time change. I wonder if they are expecting something to change? We shall see.[/QUOTE]

This just in, once you are all back here there is a guarantee that you will have some attractions to occupy your time. Today it was announced that the museums of Medellin will reopen the first week of July. This includes the Museum of Modern Art and everyone's favorite, the Museo de Antioquia.

With respect to entry rules, one of the scenarios the Minister of Health and the President have been discussing is no tourism reactivation until tourists can come and go as before. There is a very small market willing to pay what will have to be inflated airfares to sit in a hotel for two weeks until they are allowed out. The airfares would have to be inflated because there would be so little demand. In practical terms, tourism could tolerate health declarations and / or pre flight confirmation that passengers are not feverish. Beyond that, there would be no point in reopening hotels and airports. Even if there were not already a growing list of destinations in the region with no such restrictions.

To close on a happy note, I noticed the awful Hotel Deseos next door to Yakuza is back open for business. Yakuza is not. All the other short time places along calle 54 are back in business and the familiar parade of low end providers is once again filing past the Prado pawn shops toward them with local rush hour punters in tow. Every day brings a new reminder of what we one had and what we are regaining.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2457352]It's highly unlikely the Country will be opened up within a month, let alone not having an extensive vetting program for entry.

This month there are humanitarian flights being arranged in conjunction with Colombia Immigration for Colombian citizens and residents wanting to return to Colombia with strict permitting and bio-safety protocols including a two week quarantine period for all. Very few Countries are open right now with the exception of European Countries with no testing and / or quarantine requirements. And the requirements for visitors depend on the Country. Greece is open to Europeans, but if your coming from the USA and other Countries it requires testing and a one week quarantine. Iceland is an exception, you show up, get tested, if negative, your free to go without being quarantined. Don't be surprised to see a very rigid set of rules for re-entry into the Country when it opens. Of course the best case scenario would be for Colombia to do what Iceland is doing, and as an alternative what Greece is doing. Before planning a return trip to Colombia you really need to know what the entry requirements will be. As far as Airbnb listings, there will be plenty to go around at bargain basement prices. Again, your just going to have to be patient. The good news is that when you finally get back, there will be no shortage of women for everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2457531]Spot on! FINALLY someone has said it! This is so obvious. I wonder why only you has pointed out such an obvious fact. There must be a reason why Jet Blue's fares are the cheapest! There's no free dinner for anyone.

It's almost sure that there will be no flight, or no permission to fly unless for very sound reasons (patronizing the cafeterias in Parque Berrio is not a valid reason for Immigration Authorities). COVID will not disappear so quickly, and we will be happy and lucky if in July propagation will be not rampant as before. Jet BLue is simply delaying as much as possible the cancellation. The more they keep the flight on schedule, the less money they lose (and more fishes will fall into their net buying new tickets).

When I travelled from USA to Colombia, most cases via Florida, I have always flew with Delta or Avianca and never considered to buy a ticket from Jet Blue. Better pay more but be safe and have a valid ticket in my hands. I don't want to gamble a lottery when I travel, for business or my personal leisure.[/QUOTE]I don't see Jetblue doing anything different than any of the other airlines in that airlines have been selling tickets for flights in the future which they may have to cancel, but are banking on the fact that not all of the purchasers will either actually take a later flight utilizing a voucher, or not seek a refund for whatever reason. So even if less 1/10 tenth of 1 % of the ticket purchasers don't eventually fly on a voucher, or get the refund, the airlines come out the winners.

So last couple days I lacked motivation. Decided to chill. Been Following the no justice no peace for all movement. Well theres this girl paulina I have had interest and curiosity about. I discover she's a part chicaspaisas spa group. I call the what's app number from mileroticos and the boss I guess sends me pics of more girls. I inquire more and the price is 120 their apt 230 at yours. I browse mileroticos and see this seemingly pretty looking girl, tits ass face partially black out but from what I see pretty indian. I get her number but it's not registering in what's app. I try for about 10 minutes no luck. Then I see her also in chicaspaisas. So I decided I was going to give them service today. I wake up and I get a text from Victoria. I text her back and ask her address of service. Then her rate. I ask is she part of chicaspaisas and she says yes. I contact the boss of chicaspaisas and she mentions theres a 100 mil promocion. Ask can I see all the girls and choose. She says no have to pick from list so I pick Victoria. I then text Victoria and tell her I confirm with the boss. You for 100 2 pm. She tried to get me to pay 130 but I said promotion with the boss. She said ok. Close to 1 pm, I said a text romantic, suave, and sensual. She sent me smiley faces with hearts on them. I said hmmm. The boss gives me the address. Very close I could walk it but it's raining. Take taxi and I am 20 minutes early. Street look borderline, the taxi stop across the street. I walked around pass time and then went to the address. The apartment looked okay once I got to the steps. I short girl sprayed me with the sanitizer and walk me to the room. For minute I thought it was a bait and switch. Then she said she would get the girl. The room was straight. The girl comes in and I am like whoa. Really. OMG. Nice. She comes in and say some dumb shit since you text me its 130 mil. I say I confirmed with boss 100 mil promocion. She still insist 130 and I said okay let me text the boss. She then says okay siento. I give her the money and she seem mad. I am wondering am going to get poor service. I put on my reggaeton playlist from my phone. It's like a secret weapon. She walks in and starts dancing shaking that ass and grabs me to dance behind her. She's perfect just not tall. Nice booty, pretty face and like DD natural tits. I been looking for them all trip. She takes my hand pushes it too her breast. I am like oh wow. Then I take off my sweat pants and she pulls of my underwear and she likes what she sees. I am now expecting her to put the condom on. No she sucks it raw. Not only that but she's loving it. Eye contact, deep throat, stroking it, very sensuous. She makes me feel like I want to cum. I direct her to the bed to get more head. Then I turn her on her back and start sucking on those beautiful full breast. She likes how I am patient with her tits and looking in her eyes. I flow down from stomach to her pussy. Slowly start licking her clit. I could see the enjoyment. She explodes I mean like really good. Not to brag but I know I got skills. Part 2 soon.

Half the cost on my next flight back to Colombia.

I fucking left my remote for my firestick so no porn this trip.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457332]Michell hit me up this AM. She's the 19 yo mulatto from Tinder who I hooked up with on Saturday. Big natural tits and a strong sex drive. We agreed on noon and she showed up right on time.

She did a module of Duolingo on her ipad, which was required for one of her classes, and I helped her. Then we headed to the bedroom. She asked for a massage, and I obliged, with coconut oil. About two minutes in, she was propping her ass up and asking for attention on her pussy and asshole. I only massaged her left thigh and her pussy before she was begging so suck my cock. She sucked me good and then begged to be fucked. I gave it to her doggy and flipped her over to finish on her tits and face, an admittedly early pop.

In the morning, I had channeled my inner Blakman, and walked to the sex shop and bought a Hitachi. The Wanachi Body Recharger. I offered it to Michell and invited her to the living room to watch porn. We converted the sofa to a bed and I plugged in the HDMI and pornhub and we watched a lesbian scene. Then a lesbian squirt scene. While Michell was pleasing herself with the vibrator. Then we watched a boy-girl scene, Belle Knox. Michell headed to the wood laminate floor and begged to be fucked in doggy while we watched Belle get slayed. After some time, and doing my best to hold back, Michell turned over to sit down and finished herself with the vibrator and gushed a big squirt onto the floor, then asked me to finish on her face. I lived like a fucking porn star today, more than I ever have.

We then ordered in some chinese food and Michell did her thing on my Tinder while we waited. Tinder is work, so I appreciate her sending out messages for me. She is also actively looking for another girl for a threesome, although after showing her photos of my girlfriend, Michell would prefer one with her. Michell wants to be our submissive third, she likes that we're both older than her. But I still don't think it will happen. She also told me that she wants me to prepare her for her first anal. Meaning, she wants me to buy her a butt plug like we saw in a Rocco scene and use it until she's ready for me to pop her ass cherry.

We ate lunch and watched a movie and early on, she gave me a blowjob. At the end of the movie, she asked to be fucked. She propped her ass up and it took me some minutes to get hard but I got to work and rammed her in doggy only and finished on her back.

We showered again and she settled into my arms on the couch and was on Instagram and by then it was 6 pm and I suggested that I order a taxi. I asked her what kind of of "support" she wanted and she replied "como tu quireres," how you want. I gave her 150 mil and she was happy, and I paid for her uber home, $2.33.

Viva Colombia.[/QUOTE].

Actually, I use JetBlue a fair amount from FLL to MDE. When they cancelled the last flight, I got credit, which I have already used. When they changed the times for the flights on July 2 and 9, they gave me the option of accepting, cancelling and getting the money banked, or a refund. But despite the dates being listed as a go, if you log onto Jet Blue's web site, they show no flights in early July.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2457531]Spot on! FINALLY someone has said it! This is so obvious. I wonder why only you has pointed out such an obvious fact. There must be a reason why Jet Blue's fares are the cheapest! There's no free dinner for anyone.

It's almost sure that there will be no flight, or no permission to fly unless for very sound reasons (patronizing the cafeterias in Parque Berrio is not a valid reason for Immigration Authorities). COVID will not disappear so quickly, and we will be happy and lucky if in July propagation will be not rampant as before. Jet BLue is simply delaying as much as possible the cancellation. The more they keep the flight on schedule, the less money they lose (and more fishes will fall into their net buying new tickets).

When I travelled from USA to Colombia, most cases via Florida, I have always flew with Delta or Avianca and never considered to buy a ticket from Jet Blue. Better pay more but be safe and have a valid ticket in my hands. I don't want to gamble a lottery when I travel, for business or my personal leisure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2457352]Again, your just going to have to be patient. The good news is that when you finally get back, there will be no shortage of women for everyone.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? I would imagine there are a ton of mongers with pent up energy and excesses cash waiting to go on a spending spree in Medellin. I'm expecting when the flood gate opens, there will be a gold rush of mongers to drive up the price on both girls and Airbnb. I'm actually worried about a sudden shortage of high quality girls.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2457612]Actually, I use JetBlue a fair amount from FLL to MDE. When they cancelled the last flight, I got credit, which I have already used. When they changed the times for the flights on July 2 and 9, they gave me the option of accepting, cancelling and getting the money banked, or a refund. But despite the dates being listed as a go, if you log onto Jet Blue's web site, they show no flights in early July.[/QUOTE]I have flown on Jetblue a lot over the past 10 years, not on the route you mentioned, and have over 200,000 frequent flyer miles with them with no expiration date, and have always had good experiences with them all around. The tickets for the July dates mentioned were probably purchased prior to Colombia announced it's closure until September 1 a few weeks ago. This might explain things.

National flights are due to resume the first week of July on a pilot basis. The 2nd week of August international scheduled on American's web site may be based on information not yet announced publicly. Spirit put out a new schedule with flights beginning September 1 a week before the government announced it publicly.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2457616]Are you sure? I would imagine there are a ton of mongers with pent up energy and excesses cash waiting to go on a spending spree in Medellin. I'm expecting when the flood gate opens, there will be a gold rush of mongers to drive up the price on both girls and Airbnb. I'm actually worried about a sudden shortage of high quality girls.[/QUOTE]

She then points to the condom puts it on my dick and gets on top and rides me pretty good. Every once in a while gives me a smooch on the lips. I probably could have extended that but wasn't on my mind. We then switch to missionary and she lubes up her pussy and my condom. The missionary is nice because she looks so pretty with sparkling white teeth, beautiful breast and pretty skin. I wish I could have her for 24 hrs. We go then to doggy then back to missionary. But my usual problem I cannot cum. I take off the condom and she begins to suck and stroke. She's very close to making me cum and she senses it and stops and say not in my mouth. That pause while not affecting the pleasure. Stop my ability to cum. So I told her get on her back. And I was fucking her mouth and she was doing Russian placing my dick between her titties. I think that's Russian. Finally with no luck cumming, I had her look into my eyes while I wanked off over her tits and close to her face. After I nutted she asked if wanted to take a shower. I opted not to. Told I would come back and she seem happy to hear that. It was a near perfect casa arrangement. When your dropped of you might be a little leery as I was but knocking on the door and going into the apartment eased any fears. Will go back today to try a white looking Colombian. The other drawback is the time. Hour is really a short time for me. But if my dick could work back to back like few years ago. I would use this service twice a day.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2457574]So last couple days I lacked motivation. Decided to chill. Been Following the no justice no peace for all movement. Well theres this girl paulina I have had interest and curiosity about. I discover she's a part chicaspaisas spa group. I call the what's app number from mileroticos and the boss I guess sends me pics of more girls. I inquire more and the price is 120 their apt 230 at yours. I browse mileroticos and see this seemingly pretty looking girl, tits ass face partially black out but from what I see pretty indian. I get her number but it's not registering in what's app. I try for about 10 minutes no luck. Then I see her also in chicaspaisas. So I decided I was going to give them service today. I wake up and I get a text from Victoria. I text her back and ask her address of service. Then her rate. I ask is she part of chicaspaisas and she says yes. I contact the boss of chicaspaisas and she mentions theres a 100 mil promocion. Ask can I see all the girls and choose. She says no have to pick from list so I pick Victoria. I then text Victoria and tell her I confirm with the boss. You for 100 2 pm. She tried to get me to pay 130 but I said promotion with the boss. She said ok. Close to 1 pm, I said a text romantic, suave, and sensual. She sent me smiley faces with hearts on them. I said hmmm. The boss gives me the address. Very close I could walk it but it's raining. Take taxi and I am 20 minutes early. Street look borderline, the taxi stop across the street. I walked around pass time and then went to the address. The apartment looked okay once I got to the steps. I short girl sprayed me with the sanitizer and walk me to the room. For minute I thought it was a bait and switch. Then she said she would get the girl. The room was straight. The girl comes in and I am like whoa. Really. OMG. Nice. She comes in and say some dumb shit since you text me its 130 mil. I say I confirmed with boss 100 mil promocion. She still insist 130 and I said okay let me text the boss. She then says okay siento. I give her the money and she seem mad. I am wondering am going to get poor service. I put on my reggaeton playlist from my phone. It's like a secret weapon. She walks in and starts dancing shaking that ass and grabs me to dance behind her. She's perfect just not tall. Nice booty, pretty face and like DD natural tits. I been looking for them all trip. She takes my hand pushes it too her breast. I am like oh wow. Then I take off my sweat pants and she pulls of my underwear and she likes what she sees. I am now expecting her to put the condom on. No she sucks it raw. Not only that but she's loving it. Eye contact, deep throat, stroking it, very sensuous. She makes me feel like I want to cum. I direct her to the bed to get more head. Then I turn her on her back and start sucking on those beautiful full breast. She likes how I am patient with her tits and looking in her eyes. I flow down from stomach to her pussy. Slowly start licking her clit. I could see the enjoyment. She explodes I mean like really good. Not to brag but I know I got skills. Part 2 soon.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2457574]So last couple days I lacked motivation. Decided to chill. Been Following the no justice no peace for all movement. Well theres this girl paulina I have had interest and curiosity about. I discover she's a part chicaspaisas spa group. I call the what's app number from mileroticos and the boss I guess sends me pics of more girls. I inquire more and the price is 120 their apt 230 at yours. I browse mileroticos and see this seemingly pretty looking girl, tits ass face partially black out but from what I see pretty indian. I get her number but it's not registering in what's app. I try for about 10 minutes no luck. Then I see her also in chicaspaisas. So I decided I was going to give them service today. I wake up and I get a text from Victoria. I text her back and ask her address of service. Then her rate. I ask is she part of chicaspaisas and she says yes. I contact the boss of chicaspaisas and she mentions theres a 100 mil promocion. Ask can I see all the girls and choose. She says no have to pick from list so I pick Victoria. I then text Victoria and tell her I confirm with the boss. You for 100 2 pm. She tried to get me to pay 130 but I said promotion with the boss. She said ok. Close to 1 pm, I said a text romantic, suave, and sensual. She sent me smiley faces with hearts on them. I said hmmm. The boss gives me the address. Very close I could walk it but it's raining. Take taxi and I am 20 minutes early. Street look borderline, the taxi stop across the street. I walked around pass time and then went to the address. The apartment looked okay once I got to the steps. I short girl sprayed me with the sanitizer and walk me to the room. For minute I thought it was a bait and switch. Then she said she would get the girl. The room was straight. The girl comes in and I am like whoa. Really. OMG. Nice. She comes in and say some dumb shit since you text me its 130 mil.[/QUOTE]I have mongered many places in the world, right at 10 years numerous visits / stays and now living in Medellin for over 3 years, I can not count how many times I have finished a spectacular experience with a chica and for one reason or another it comes to an end THEN bamm just around the next corner is yet another on par or even better experience and it never ends.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2457616]Are you sure? I would imagine there are a ton of mongers with pent up energy and excesses cash waiting to go on a spending spree in Medellin. I'm expecting when the flood gate opens, there will be a gold rush of mongers to drive up the price on both girls and Airbnb. I'm actually worried about a sudden shortage of high quality girls.[/QUOTE]I'm expecting a small initial rush, and then a slow return to normal numbers with the mongers. There's going to be lingering uncertainty with a lot of mongers over the safety of traveling. Some are going to hold off. If there's a mandatory quarantine, most won't be able to make the trip. Unless you're staying a month or more, 14 days locked down isn't worth it.

The girls on the other hand are getting anxious. It's not just the lack of income, it's the lifestyle. They want to be out dancing, drinking and singing. They want the attention.

For those who can get on the first flights and sit out the quarantine, if there is one, it should be booming.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2457616]Are you sure? I would imagine there are a ton of mongers with pent up energy and excesses cash waiting to go on a spending spree in Medellin. I'm expecting when the flood gate opens, there will be a gold rush of mongers to drive up the price on both girls and Airbnb. I'm actually worried about a sudden shortage of high quality girls.[/QUOTE]Sure there are lots of mongers with pent up energy and perhaps excess cash, or maybe not. You have to keep in mind you roll differently than a lot of the other mongers on this board, I would say most of the guys on this board either don't have the disposable income you have, or are willing to spend what you spend on girls.

I highly doubt when you return that there will be a shortage of girls to your liking at inflated prices, as they will just be happy to have customers being out of work for so long.

Also, the Airbnb prices aren't going to be driven up by the mongers as tourism won't actually return to it's previous levels until there is a vaccine hence all of those apartments are still in existence, and won't be filling up until things are back to normal. These are just my thoughts.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2457742]

For those who can get on the first flights and sit out the quarantine, if there is one, it should be booming.[/QUOTE]Things are booming right now. This is the time to be here.

You got it right Surfer. This is a very old debate. The facts aren't affected very much by the virus. There are almost 60 million Colombians. There is very little any group of punters can do to move the market. Look at the price points for any provider sector. Top end escorts, strip clubs, salas de masaje, apt girls, and the Centro streets. The costs move very slowly and very little. It's borderline self centered to think punters are going to over take all the other tourism and business travelers to Colombia and move the market.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2457746]Sure there are lots of mongers with pent up energy and perhaps excess cash, or maybe not. You have to keep in mind you roll differently than a lot of the other mongers on this board, I would say most of the guys on this board either don't have the disposable income you have, or are willing to spend what you spend on girls.

I highly doubt when you return that there will be a shortage of girls to your liking at inflated prices, as they will just be happy to have customers being out of work for so long.

Also, the Airbnb prices aren't going to be driven up by the mongers as tourism won't actually return to it's previous levels until there is a vaccine hence all of those apartments are still in existence, and won't be filling up until things are back to normal. These are just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]

I have no complaints.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2457774]Things are booming right now. This is the time to be here.[/QUOTE]

Depending how much time guys spend in Parque Lleras and New Life if might be hard to understand that the vast majority of mongers here are Colombian. Foreign punters are inconsequential to the scene except to each other. Absolutely it's true that places like Gustos and the Gringo Inn will be massively impacted by the comings and goings of one week millionaires, but they are extreme outliers on the overall scene.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2457742]I'm expecting a small initial rush, and then a slow return to normal numbers with the mongers. There's going to be lingering uncertainty with a lot of mongers over the safety of traveling. Some are going to hold off. If there's a mandatory quarantine, most won't be able to make the trip. Unless you're staying a month or more, 14 days locked down isn't worth it.

The girls on the other hand are getting anxious. It's not just the lack of income, it's the lifestyle. They want to be out dancing, drinking and singing. They want the attention.

For those who can get on the first flights and sit out the quarantine, if there is one, it should be booming.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2457774]Things are booming right now. This is the time to be here.[/QUOTE]Oh ok thanks for the tip! I guess we should all go to Colombia now.

Thanks!

Oh yeah, it's CLOSED!

Lol SMH

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2457774]Things are booming right now. This is the time to be here.[/QUOTE]This is more than rubbing salt in a wound, more akin to pouring gasoline on a fire. The majority of the board members on this thread have been re-living their past experiences in Medellin thru some of the other members posts / photos who are in town, but this is just in-humane, and adding insult to injury to have this rubbed in peoples face (s) so blatantly, at least that would be one way someone might read your post, but I'm not taking it that way. Enjoy it while it lasts, you only live once!

I am super high off yesterday'experience so I decide to go back for a new girl. The promotion is over so its 120 mil. I get there and a girl walks me to the room. Nice 50 inch tv. Playing reggaeton. Nice sound quality. Girl comes looks nothing like her body and shaded facial. Immediately I call the boss and say I cannot have sex with this women. She says you have to pay a 20 mil multa fee. Ask if I want another girl. I say give me the previous girl or another girl I was curious about. She tells me that girl is available. I say okay but after few minutes decided no I want to leave. She says okay. When I was about to leave I saw they were getting the other girl ready for me. So I step back in the room. She came and was close to 30 lbs bigger than her shaded pics. So I told her no. She wanted another 20 mil multa. I said no no no. She said yes. Then I told her I told the boss no before you came in and she said ok. It's a weird because all the girls stay same place but they won't lined them up and let you see them all. I guess I will stick with the previous girl. She is great

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2457733]I have mongered many places in the world, right at 10 years numerous visits / stays and now living in Medellin for over 3 years, I can not count how many times I have finished a spectacular experience with a chica and for one reason or another it comes to an end THEN bamm just around the next corner is yet another on par or even better experience and it never ends.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2457778]Depending how much time guys spend in Parque Lleras and New Life if might be hard to understand that the vast majority of mongers here are Colombian. Foreign punters are inconsequential to the scene except to each other. Absolutely it's true that places like Gustos and the Gringo Inn will be massively impacted by the comings and goings of one week millionaires, but they are extreme outliers on the overall scene.[/QUOTE]So true. I was in El Centro for a couple of hours today. I wanted to really get the full grasp of the talent. I saw about 10-15 babes I would like to smash out of about 150. I was also seeing where the girls take their clients to get a better lay of the land. Locals were definitely getting it in. Things seem to really pick up close to the weekend. 99.9% locals.

OK, what a day. Here we go. I had a basic chat with 18 yo Alejandra on Tinder a few days ago. Where do you live, to what are you dedicated, etc. No more, I had not had the chance to hit her up with my usual proposal, although we had switched to whatsapp. We had not discussed money or any sort of transaction.

Yesterday she hit me up with a specific time, can I come tomorrow at 10 am? I suggested noon and we met at the Tostao today at exactly that time. She arrived in a taxi (I paid 20 mil) and she is gorgeous. A perfect 10 face, for me. Petite and a gorgeous nose and lips and teeth and eyebrows and clear skin and no tattoos and hair down to the middle of her ass. About five-feet tall and a body that's a little bit squishy, in a youthful way. Just cute as a button. She was wearing an all pink Adidas outfit and had a pink backpack. She is Paisa-Paisa.

I verified her cedula and we walked to my apartment. She settled in to the couch and I told her what I had on offer to drink and she asked for the Rose (the finest available from D1) and this girl likes to drink, she drinks faster than me, and that's saying something, and she can hold her own, she was never drunk or obviously impaired. We finished the wine and then four cans of summer shandy and then walked to the tienda and got a six-pack of Aguila light and a bottle of Aguardiente (azul). We listened to salsa on youtube and danced and also to various big hair rock bands, and danced and sang. I was touching her legs and back and we were kissing but it wasn't clear to me what would happen. My buddy texted me and she replied on my phone, sending selfies of us and typing in Spanish that she's 18 and that Colombianitas like older guys and for him to come visit.

At one point during all of this she said that her family is poor and that she's very loyal and loving and wants a boyfriend that can support her. She said she doesn't want money today but wants support. We had a back and forth about if we can be that person for each other. She says that she's not jealous if I have girl friends but that she wants to meet them. Hahaha I have no idea, what a trip.

So by this time it's 6 pm and we're in my bedroom looking out at the approaching sunset and it doesn't seem to me that I'll be getting laid. She's showing me photos on her phone of her friends, and says that she can come back next time with a friend. Then she turns really forward and asks if I want to have sex, and if I can support her. Yes. So we strip down and her body is killer and I'm giving her oral and she begs to get fucked and I condom up and hand her the Hitachi and go to pound town and she's just begging, Duro! Duro! Duro! And then she reaches up and starts choking me, pretty hard for a little woman, and I'm cool with that. I respond with the same and she asks to be slapped on the face and we just have a great aggressive session.

I finish and not 10 minutes later, she's back at it with the hitachi and stroking me. We go back to pound town and she's back at the choking, and then we flip to doggy and she reaches around with the vibrator and has me play her ass with it and by the time we finish, my thumb is in her ass.

We finish and lie on the bed and finish our beers, I like how this girl can drink. I offer to order her an uber but it turns out that the taxista this morning is her guy, and she texts him and he's 5 minutes away. We dress and I'm thinking, how much do I compensate this beauty? I was considering 200 mil COP, but remember that SlapShot wifed up a girl for two weeks for not much more than that. Then I consider 150 mil COP but think of Blakman and we haven't met but he would probably be disappointed in me. So I give Alejandra 100 mil for the seven hours that we've been together and she immediately asks if she can see me tomorrow.

I am so happy here.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457844]OK, what a day. Here we go. I had a basic chat with 18 yo Alejandra on Tinder a few days ago. Where do you live, to what are you dedicated, etc. No more, I had not had the chance to hit her up with my usual proposal, although we had switched to whatsapp. We had not discussed money or any sort of transaction.

Yesterday she hit me up with a specific time, can I come tomorrow at 10 am? I suggested noon and we met at the Tostao today at exactly that time. She arrived in a taxi (I paid 20 mil) and she is gorgeous. A perfect 10 face, for me. Petite and a gorgeous nose and lips and teeth and eyebrows and clear skin and no tattoos and hair down to the middle of her ass. About five-feet tall and a body that's a little bit squishy, in a youthful way. Just cute as a button. She was wearing an all pink Adidas outfit and had a pink backpack. She is Paisa-Paisa.

I verified her cedula and we walked to my apartment. She settled in to the couch and I told her what I had on offer to drink and she asked for the Rose (the finest available from D1) and this girl likes to drink, she drinks faster than me, and that's saying something, and she can hold her own, she was never drunk or obviously impaired. We finished the wine and then four cans of summer shandy and then walked to the tienda and got a six-pack of Aguila light and a bottle of Aguardiente (azul). We listened to salsa on youtube and danced and also to various big hair rock bands, and danced and sang. I was touching her legs and back and we were kissing but it wasn't clear to me what would happen. My buddy texted me and she replied on my phone, sending selfies of us and typing in Spanish that she's 18 and that Colombianitas like older guys and for him to come visit.

At one point during all of this she said that her family is poor and that she's very loyal and loving and wants a boyfriend that can support her. She said she doesn't want money today but wants support. We had a back and forth about if we can be that person for each other. She says that she's not jealous if I have girl friends but that she wants to meet them. Hahaha I have no idea, what a trip.

So by this time it's 6 pm and we're in my bedroom looking out at the approaching sunset and it doesn't seem to me that I'll be getting laid. She's showing me photos on her phone of her friends, and says that she can come back next time with a friend. Then she turns really forward and asks if I want to have sex, and if I can support her. Yes. So we strip down and her body is killer and I'm giving her oral and she begs to get fucked and I condom up and hand her the Hitachi and go to pound town and she's just begging, Duro! Duro! Duro! And then she reaches up and starts choking me, pretty hard for a little woman, and I'm cool with that. I respond with the same and she asks to be slapped on the face and we just have a great aggressive session.

I finish and not 10 minutes later, she's back at it with the hitachi and stroking me. We go back to pound town and she's back at the choking, and then we flip to doggy and she reaches around with the vibrator and has me play her ass with it and by the time we finish, my thumb is in her ass.

We finish and lie on the bed and finish our beers, I like how this girl can drink. I offer to order her an uber but it turns out that the taxista this morning is her guy, and she texts him and he's 5 minutes away. We dress and I'm thinking, how much do I compensate this beauty? I was considering 200 mil COP, but remember that SlapShot wifed up a girl for two weeks for not much more than that. Then I consider 150 mil COP but think of Blakman and we haven't met but he would probably be disappointed in me. So I give Alejandra 100 mil for the seven hours that we've been together and she immediately asks if she can see me tomorrow.

I am so happy here.[/QUOTE]I have read a lot of posts lately of the lucky guys who are stuck in MDE. This fucking post has me so jealous I can't think straight.

It is almost a punishment to read a report like this. Meanwhile keep up the good work as I stare at my glock. LOL.

Long time member here with a new handle.

I live in Sabaneta and have never encountered so many cheap offerings on Tinder and elsewhere. But how does one keep safe from covid? I'm too paranoid to partake in sex. How do you guys do it?

Long time member here with a new handle.

I live in Medellin and have never encountered so many cheap offerings on Tinder and elsewhere. But how does one keep safe from covid? I'm too paranoid to partake in sex. How do you guys do it?

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2457916]It is almost a punishment to read a report like this. [/QUOTE]I fully second that. And he did not even share a photo to fap on. Grrrrr....! :mad: :angry:

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457844]OK, what a day. Here we go. I had a basic chat with 18 yo Alejandra on Tinder a few days ago. Where do you live, to what are you dedicated, etc. No more, I had not had the chance to hit her up with my usual proposal, although we had switched to whatsapp. We had not discussed money or any sort of transaction.

Yesterday she hit me up with a specific time, can I come tomorrow at 10 am? I suggested noon and we met at the Tostao today at exactly that time. She arrived in a taxi (I paid 20 mil) and she is gorgeous. A perfect 10 face, for me. Petite and a gorgeous nose and lips and teeth and eyebrows and clear skin and no tattoos and hair down to the middle of her ass. About five-feet tall and a body that's a little bit squishy, in a youthful way. Just cute as a button. She was wearing an all pink Adidas outfit and had a pink backpack. She is Paisa-Paisa.

I verified her cedula and we walked to my apartment. She settled in to the couch and I told her what I had on offer to drink and she asked for the Rose (the finest available from D1) and this girl likes to drink, she drinks faster than me, and that's saying something, and she can hold her own, she was never drunk or obviously impaired. We finished the wine and then four cans of summer shandy and then walked to the tienda and got a six-pack of Aguila light and a bottle of Aguardiente (azul). We listened to salsa on youtube and danced and also to various big hair rock bands, and danced and sang..[/QUOTE]A great description and I believe every word of your experience. Not often enough but still happens enough here in Medellin that when the stars get aligned I have experienced the same and my reaction is "what the heck just happened" as it is almost surreal, I thank my lucky stars and think how lucky I am.

So a few years back I met a paisa off of a cupid site and when we met in person I had to check her cedula and she turned 18 the week before so throttle up time, an incredible experience, this was two years ago now fast forward to 2 days ago and she finds me and contacts me and I picked her up yesterday and spent hours back in my apartment getting reacquainted, we were like lost teenage lovers, just incredible feeling, she is absolutely non-pro, cute as a button, a perfect face and teeth, hair down to her waist, all real and completely natural, no tattoos, no drugs albeit we smoke a joint together, and after I drop her off at her home I shake my head in disbelief thinking "only in Medellin".

And BTW I gave her 120 mil along with a few chocolates and a small teddy bear as gifts, Love it.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2457916]I have read a lot of posts lately of the lucky guys who are stuck in MDE. This fucking post has me so jealous I can't think straight.

It is almost a punishment to read a report like this. Meanwhile keep up the good work as I stare at my glock. LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BlackPage;2457949]I fully second that. And he did not even share a photo to fap on. Grrrrr....![/QUOTE]And these types of experiences happen not just during quarantine / travel restrictions but under normal conditions too, it is just that many are stuck outside of Colombia and can only read about a few goings on.

The Tall Man.

P.S, a photo of my favorite Dana.

Answer: the one your getting right now!

For your presentation here is a 22 yo vennie I found last week off of Milerotics, scheduled to meet her in a centro hotel and she sucked and fucked like it was her purpose in life. Where in the world can you find this for 50 mil.

Will repeat but on another day as today I am on the hunt for something new and I got my sights set on a fresh new 19 yo cutie.

The Tall Man.

Can someone please explain how my friends can use UBER here in MDE. Almost none of them have CCs. Is there some kind of cash app?. Also DiDi I know nothing about. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457844]OK, what a day. Here we go. I had a basic chat with 18 yo Alejandra on Tinder a few days ago. Where do you live, to what are you dedicated, etc. No more, I had not had the chance to hit her up with my usual proposal, although we had switched to whatsapp. We had not discussed money or any sort of transaction.

Yesterday she hit me up with a specific time, can I come tomorrow at 10 am? I suggested noon and we met at the Tostao today at exactly that time. She arrived in a taxi (I paid 20 mil) and she is gorgeous. A perfect 10 face, for me. Petite and a gorgeous nose and lips and teeth and eyebrows and clear skin and no tattoos and hair down to the middle of her ass. About five-feet tall and a body that's a little bit squishy, in a youthful way. Just cute as a button. She was wearing an all pink Adidas outfit and had a pink backpack. She is Paisa-Paisa.

I verified her cedula and we walked to my apartment. She settled in to the couch and I told her what I had on offer to drink and she asked for the Rose (the finest available from D1) and this girl likes to drink, she drinks faster than me, and that's saying something, and she can hold her own, she was never drunk or obviously impaired. We finished the wine and then four cans of summer shandy and then walked to the tienda and got a six-pack of Aguila light and a bottle of Aguardiente (azul). We listened to salsa on youtube and danced and also to various big hair rock bands, and danced and sang. I was touching her legs and back and we were kissing but it wasn't clear to me what would happen. My buddy texted me and she replied on my phone, sending selfies of us and typing in Spanish that she's 18 and that Colombianitas like older guys and for him to come visit.

At one point during all of this she said that her family is poor and that she's very loyal and loving and wants a boyfriend that can support her. She said she doesn't want money today but wants support. We had a back and forth about if we can be that person for each other. She says that she's not jealous if I have girl friends but that she wants to meet them. Hahaha I have no idea, what a trip.

So by this time it's 6 pm and we're in my bedroom looking out at the approaching sunset and it doesn't seem to me that I'll be getting laid. She's showing me photos on her phone of her friends, and says that she can come back next time with a friend. Then she turns really forward and asks if I want to have sex, and if I can support her. Yes. So we strip down and her body is killer and I'm giving her oral and she begs to get fucked and I condom up and hand her the Hitachi and go to pound town and she's just begging, Duro! Duro! Duro! And then she reaches up and starts choking me, pretty hard for a little woman, and I'm cool with that. I respond with the same and she asks to be slapped on the face and we just have a great aggressive session.

I finish and not 10 minutes later, she's back at it with the hitachi and stroking me. We go back to pound town and she's back at the choking, and then we flip to doggy and she reaches around with the vibrator and has me play her ass with it and by the time we finish, my thumb is in her ass.

We finish and lie on the bed and finish our beers, I like how this girl can drink. I offer to order her an uber but it turns out that the taxista this morning is her guy, and she texts him and he's 5 minutes away. We dress and I'm thinking, how much do I compensate this beauty? I was considering 200 mil COP, but remember that SlapShot wifed up a girl for two weeks for not much more than that. Then I consider 150 mil COP but think of Blakman and we haven't met but he would probably be disappointed in me. So I give Alejandra 100 mil for the seven hours that we've been together and she immediately asks if she can see me tomorrow.

I am so happy here.[/QUOTE]If you decide to pass on her, I might take her up. Looking for a live-in. PM to me.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2457970]Can someone please explain how my friends can use UBER here in MDE. Almost none of them have CCs. Is there some kind of cash app?. Also DiDi I know nothing about. Thank you.[/QUOTE]If you download Didi and / or Uber, you can go through the various payment options here in Colombia. It is very intuitive.

Didi, uber, and Coopebombas all have cash payment options.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2457975]If you download Didi and / or Uber, you can go through the various payment options here in Colombia. It is very intuitive.[/QUOTE]

You owe me again. I saved you 100 mil LOL

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457844]OK, what a day. Here we go. I had a basic chat with 18 yo Alejandra on Tinder a few days ago. Where do you live, to what are you dedicated, etc. No more, I had not had the chance to hit her up with my usual proposal, although we had switched to whatsapp. We had not discussed money or any sort of transaction.

Yesterday she hit me up with a specific time, can I come tomorrow at 10 am? I suggested noon and we met at the Tostao today at exactly that time. She arrived in a taxi (I paid 20 mil) and she is gorgeous. A perfect 10 face, for me. Petite and a gorgeous nose and lips and teeth and eyebrows and clear skin and no tattoos and hair down to the middle of her ass. About five-feet tall and a body that's a little bit squishy, in a youthful way. Just cute as a button. She was wearing an all pink Adidas outfit and had a pink backpack. She is Paisa-Paisa.

I verified her cedula and we walked to my apartment. She settled in to the couch and I told her what I had on offer to drink and she asked for the Rose (the finest available from D1) and this girl likes to drink, she drinks faster than me, and that's saying something, and she can hold her own, she was never drunk or obviously impaired. We finished the wine and then four cans of summer shandy and then walked to the tienda and got a six-pack of Aguila light and a bottle of Aguardiente (azul). We listened to salsa on youtube and danced and also to various big hair rock bands, and danced and sang. I was touching her legs and back and we were kissing but it wasn't clear to me what would happen. My buddy texted me and she replied on my phone, sending selfies of us and typing in Spanish that she's 18 and that Colombianitas like older guys and for him to come visit.

At one point during all of this she said that her family is poor and that she's very loyal and loving and wants a boyfriend that can support her. She said she doesn't want money today but wants support. We had a back and forth about if we can be that person for each other. She says that she's not jealous if I have girl friends but that she wants to meet them. Hahaha I have no idea, what a trip.

So by this time it's 6 pm and we're in my bedroom looking out at the approaching sunset and it doesn't seem to me that I'll be getting laid. She's showing me photos on her phone of her friends, and says that she can come back next time with a friend. Then she turns really forward and asks if I want to have sex, and if I can support her. Yes. So we strip down and her body is killer and I'm giving her oral and she begs to get fucked and I condom up and hand her the Hitachi and go to pound town and she's just begging, Duro! Duro! Duro! And then she reaches up and starts choking me, pretty hard for a little woman, and I'm cool with that. I respond with the same and she asks to be slapped on the face and we just have a great aggressive session.

I finish and not 10 minutes later, she's back at it with the hitachi and stroking me. We go back to pound town and she's back at the choking, and then we flip to doggy and she reaches around with the vibrator and has me play her ass with it and by the time we finish, my thumb is in her ass.

We finish and lie on the bed and finish our beers, I like how this girl can drink. I offer to order her an uber but it turns out that the taxista this morning is her guy, and she texts him and he's 5 minutes away. We dress and I'm thinking, how much do I compensate this beauty? I was considering 200 mil COP, but remember that SlapShot wifed up a girl for two weeks for not much more than that. Then I consider 150 mil COP but think of Blakman and we haven't met but he would probably be disappointed in me. So I give Alejandra 100 mil for the seven hours that we've been together and she immediately asks if she can see me tomorrow.

I am so happy here.[/QUOTE].

For guys who aren't here this could be the most frustrating post from any of us here yet.

[QUOTE=Poster99;2457944]Long time member here with a new handle.

I live in Sabaneta and have never encountered so many cheap offerings on Tinder and elsewhere. But how does one keep safe from covid? I'm too paranoid to partake in sex. How do you guys do it?[/QUOTE]

I have 3 potential cita today including the 8. I kinda want some action early. I choose a mileroticos girl with a nice ass in pic, she is in a casa off LA 70. We talk to meet 11 am. I tell her I want her kissing on my body she says she likes that. Ok so I commit. She tells me hurry up she's wettt. I didn't know if that was truthful or game. I get there one of the girls walk me up. I walk by 2 nice petite girls but my appointment is booked. I sit down my cita comes. She's not dressed sexy at all. Not looking hot but I was there for 2 reasons. 60 mil price and I wanted to see other talent. She brings me in the room and it's not as nice as chicaspaisas rooms. She takes her clothes off and I take mine off. She's kissing all over my body as I requested which was nice and ask me do I want natural head or condom. I select condom. Did not want to pay 30 mil. She gives me nice blow job, nothing memorable then gets on top. She is riding me very good which makes me forget about the better selections. She's like really into it, girlfriend experience without kissing. She so into it there is knocks on the door and she pays it no mind. We then go to missionary, doggy, and back to missionary all good. Its feeling so good I sense I can cum in the pussy which is rare in my cases. Shortly after nut. So I learned that you get 2 nuts for a hour. I been here 4 months and did not know that shit. So I ask her to jerk me off she says sure but you only have 15 minutes. I said no problem. She began jerking and my dick would not budge, would not do shit. She looked at me and I looked at her a few times and still nothing. The dick was so pathetic. Worst I seen it. The situation was so helpless I just said it's okay just show me rest of girls. So she sat me down and they filtered in. Quite a few look nice, no stunners. But slapshot Karol looked hot. Don't know if you remembered the post; she had the beginning of her period when I fucked her. So let me add Slapshot that was a good call with Karol. The 8 comes by at 4pm

[QUOTE=Blakman;2458001]I have 3 potential cita today including the 8. I kinda want some action early. I choose a mileroticos girl with a nice ass in pic, she is in a casa off LA 70. We talk to meet 11 am. I tell her I want her kissing on my body she says she likes that. Ok so I commit. She tells me hurry up she's wettt. I didn't know if that was truthful or game. I get there one of the girls walk me up. I walk by 2 nice petite girls but my appointment is booked. I sit down my cita comes. She's not dressed sexy at all. Not looking hot but I was there for 2 reasons. 60 mil price and I wanted to see other talent. She brings me in the room and it's not as nice as chicaspaisas rooms. She takes her clothes off and I take mine off. She's kissing all over my body as I requested which was nice and ask me do I want natural head or condom. I select condom. Did not want to pay 30 mil. She gives me nice blow job, nothing memorable then gets on top. She is riding me very good which makes me forget about the better selections. She's like really into it, girlfriend experience without kissing. She so into it there is knocks on the door and she pays it no mind. We then go to missionary, doggy, and back to missionary all good. Its feeling so good I sense I can cum in the pussy which is rare in my cases. Shortly after nut. So I learned that you get 2 nuts for a hour. I been here 4 months and did not know that shit. So I ask her to jerk me off she says sure but you only have 15 minutes. I said no problem. She began jerking and my dick would not budge, would not do shit. She looked at me and I looked at her a few times and still nothing. The dick was so pathetic. Worst I seen it. The situation was so helpless I just said it's okay just show me rest of girls. So she sat me down and they filtered in. Quite a few look nice, no stunners. But slapshot Karol looked hot. Don't know if you remembered the post; she had the beginning of her period when I fucked her. So let me add Slapshot that was a good call with Karol. The 8 comes by at 4pm[/QUOTE]Do you have any addresses for these casas?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2458001]She began jerking and my dick would not budge, would not do shit. She looked at me and I looked at her a few times and still nothing. The dick was so pathetic. Worst I seen it. The situation was so helpless I just said it's okay just show me rest of girls. [/QUOTE]Oh boy, this is terrible, beyond belief if you've become impotent now. Sounds like your going to have spring for some Viagra to get things back up and running.

All kidding aside, I'm past the age of being able to do two pops an hour on a daily basis, let alone at a casa, but I can manage two pops, within 2 to 3 hours on a daily basis, yet I take a 1/4 Viagra each time to do this.

The girls will you give you the location. It's not set up where you just go there. Some are and some are appointment arranged

[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2458013]Do you have any addresses for these casas?[/QUOTE].

Well I did take a 1/4 viagra and stood upright the first pop. Honestly it's a little bit of downer no longer having that quick reload. You know what I am going to blame that shit on my blood pressure.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458040]Oh boy, this is terrible, beyond belief if you've become impotent now. Sounds like your going to have spring for some Viagra to get things back up and running. But like the Terminator. I be back tomorrow lol

All kidding aside, I'm past the age of being able to do two pops an hour on a daily basis, let alone at a casa, but I can manage two pops, within 2 to 3 hours on a daily basis, yet I take a 1/4 Viagra each time to do this.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2457987]For guys who aren't here this could be the most frustrating post from any of us here yet.[/QUOTE]I was going to respond to the post your referring too, but decided not too. The post is frustrating as it is a scary reminder that there is a Pandemic, and mongering prior to the Pandemic has always had it's sexual disease health risks, but now it's different, and I know this issue has to be entering the minds of guys currently mongering in Medellin, like how many other people has the girl you just banged come into contact with, and something you dread thinking about. I can't imagine a more frustrating post then this one for you guys in Medellin, but I'm going to be exactly in the same mindset within a week when I head down to Mexico for a few days.

[QUOTE=Poster99;2457945]Long time member here with a new handle.

I live in Medellin and have never encountered so many cheap offerings on Tinder and elsewhere. But how does one keep safe from covid? I'm too paranoid to partake in sex. How do you guys do it?[/QUOTE]My best advice to you would be to let her have a complete shower in which she fully foam soaps her body from head to toes. Then let her wear a mask for the rest of her stay. You should also wear a mask which doubles the prevention of you getting anything.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457844]OK, what a day. Here we go. I had a basic chat with 18 yo Alejandra on Tinder a few days ago. Where do you live, to what are you dedicated, etc. No more, I had not had the chance to hit her up with my usual proposal, although we had switched to whatsapp. We had not discussed money or any sort of transaction.

Yesterday she hit me up with a specific time, can I come tomorrow at 10 am? I suggested noon and we met at the Tostao today at exactly that time. She arrived in a taxi (I paid 20 mil) and she is gorgeous. A perfect 10 face, for me. Petite and a gorgeous nose and lips and teeth and eyebrows and clear skin and no tattoos and hair down to the middle of her ass. About five-feet tall and a body that's a little bit squishy, in a youthful way. Just cute as a button. She was wearing an all pink Adidas outfit and had a pink backpack. She is Paisa-Paisa.

I verified her cedula and we walked to my apartment. She settled in to the couch and I told her what I had on offer to drink and she asked for the Rose (the finest available from D1) and this girl likes to drink, she drinks faster than me, and that's saying something, and she can hold her own, she was never drunk or obviously impaired. We finished the wine and then four cans of summer shandy and then walked to the tienda and got a six-pack of Aguila light and a bottle of Aguardiente (azul). We listened to salsa on youtube and danced and also to various big hair rock bands, and danced and sang. I was touching her legs and back and we were kissing but it wasn't clear to me what would happen. My buddy texted me and she replied on my phone, sending selfies of us and typing in Spanish that she's 18 and that Colombianitas like older guys and for him to come visit.[/QUOTE]Man,

I'm glad there's people enjoying life right now while I'm stuck at home with nothing but porn haha. Lugnut how long have you been in Medellin? Is it improving lately?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2458189]My best advice to you would be to let her have a complete shower in which she fully foam soaps her body from head to toes. Then let her wear a mask for the rest of her stay. You should also wear a mask which doubles the prevention of you getting anything.[/QUOTE]That's probably easier than wrapping himself up with saran wrap and wearing scuba gear.

Here you go

[QUOTE=Turgid;2458189]My best advice to you would be to let her have a complete shower in which she fully foam soaps her body from head to toes. Then let her wear a mask for the rest of her stay. You should also wear a mask which doubles the prevention of you getting anything.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2458001]She takes her clothes off and I take mine off. She's kissing all over my body as I requested which was nice and ask me do I want natural head or condom. I select condom. Did not want to pay 30 mil. [/QUOTE]Haha. Dude I love your adventures but you skipped BBBJ over $8? You only have urself to blame for no round 2 not your dick. Had you splurged on the $8 option you surely could have had a second nut. Blame your wallet or your brain but not your dick. 🤣.

I remind everyone once again you do not have to fuck somebody to catch the virus or infect somebody with the virus. Applying basic logic leads a reasonable person to acknowledge it is highly unlikely any significant portion of the multiple millions of infections are related in any way to mongering. Everyone has to decide whether they are going to self quarantine indefinitely or get on with life because, again, mongering is not nearly a Coronavirus vector any knowledgeable health care professionals recognize. People are catching it mostly from day to day interactions. If you are in a known high risk group for complications then it is prudent to hold out for a vaccine or treatment. If you are prone to fretting enough to damage your health in other ways it is better to stay locked up and sanitize everything within reach and your food and drink if it brings comfort. Anyone who is really worried should get tested, but first also then decide what you would do differently based on the test result.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458100]I was going to respond to the post your referring too, but decided not too. The post is frustrating as it is a scary reminder that there is a Pandemic, and mongering prior to the Pandemic has always had it's sexual disease health risks, but now it's different, and I know this issue has to be entering the minds of guys currently mongering in Medellin, like how many other people has the girl you just banged come into contact with, and something you dread thinking about. I can't imagine a more frustrating post then this one for you guys in Medellin, but I'm going to be exactly in the same mindset within a week when I head down to Mexico for a few days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2458189]My best advice to you would be to let her have a complete shower in which she fully foam soaps her body from head to toes. Then let her wear a mask for the rest of her stay. You should also wear a mask which doubles the prevention of you getting anything.[/QUOTE]LOL, I have boned 5-8+ Venezolanas in last 3 months no mask, some kissing even. Not really worried too much. I have the Hydroxychloriquine+Zpack ($30) if I have symptoms.

I actually think I may have caught it 3 months ago as a guy I was hanging out with got a lapDance from this girl who seemed unusually hot and we both came down with a fever. He was pretty sick for 48 hours, me too but just a fever. I have type O+ blood and they are now saying type o is very resistant to the China virus. I wear my mask on chin mostly too.

They're back, Thor and the mystery miner. Restaurants at ground zero allow limited seating. Many more bars open and Tostao let's you inside their stores but no sitting, you have to stand.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2458236]I remind everyone once again you do not have to fuck somebody to catch the virus or infect somebody with the virus. Applying basic logic leads a reasonable person to acknowledge it is highly unlikely any significant portion of the multiple millions of infections are related in any way to mongering. Everyone has to decide whether they are going to self quarantine indefinitely or get on with life because, again, mongering is not nearly a Coronavirus vector any knowledgeable health care professionals recognize. People are catching it mostly from day to day interactions. If you are in a known high risk group for complications then it is prudent to hold out for a vaccine or treatment. If you are prone to fretting enough to damage your health in other ways it is better to stay locked up and sanitize everything within reach and your food and drink if it brings comfort. Anyone who is really worried should get tested, but first also then decide what you would do differently based on the test result.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if I follow your logic here. I see it quite simply that for mongers that go with multiple women, they are going to be in contact with women that have been in contact with numerous other people who may be carriers, so logic would tell you that a monger would be at a higher risk of becoming infected just based on pure " numbers", with the "logic" being that the less people a monger interact's with, the lower the odds of becoming infected. If this wasn't the case, then why all the lock-downs and social distancing. This appears to be logical, unless I am missing something here, and if so, what?

As far as getting tested, I am assuming you were referring to being tested for immunity versus being tested for the virus if your symptom free. I got tested myself, and unfortunately was negative, so if you test positive knowing you have the anti-bodies, and the test wasn't a false positive, that might empower some guys to go out and bang everything in site. At least I would like a rabid dog.

The issue which you have raised is how much tolerance for risk do guy's have while mongering during the Pandemic, and I am curious as to what others think about this as it must be on everyone's minds, or perhaps there's no concerns, or fears, or am I just out in left field like I normally am?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2458237]LOL, I have boned 5-8+ Venezolanas in last 3 months no mask, some kissing even. Not really worried too much. I have the Hydroxychloriquine+Zpack ($30) if I have symptoms.

I actually think I may have caught it 3 months ago as a guy I was hanging out with got a lapDance from this girl who seemed unusually hot and we both came down with a fever. He was pretty sick for 48 hours, me too but just a fever. I have type O+ blood and they are now saying type o is very resistant to the China virus. I wear my mask on chin mostly too.[/QUOTE]Where did you get your Hydroxychloriquine+Zpack?

I know some of you take bras and panties as gifts for the chicas.

How do you pick the sizes? What are the inexpensive but desired brands?

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2458289]Where did you get your Hydroxychloriquine+Zpack?[/QUOTE]This is my honest opinion about Covid is this, no one on this board knows what going on and neither do the scientist currently working on a vaccine. Unless you are a scientist or researcher, why even speak on an illness that you or no one in the medical community knows how it is transmitted. I honestly feel like it would be just too much for some of the BMs to not bring up conspiracy theories about this virus.

Clearly the American medical community is afraid to say that they don't know what's going on. Many statistics are faulty, but here we are on forum board flaming the fire about virus that has killed many and struck fear in all corners of the world. You don't have to man up and admit that you have no idea how this virus overtook the world, the best minds in the world do not have a clue.

One thing for sure is this, there are many people in the United States are walking around with Covid-19 and have no symptoms at all. The best practice is to isolate or come to grips with reality and reality is this, if you have contact with anyone outside of your home, you run the risk of contracting the virus. Lets not spread fear, lets make the facts known and leave it at that. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2457844]I'm thinking, how much do I compensate this beauty? I was considering 200 mil COP, but remember that SlapShot wifed up a girl for two weeks for not much more than that. Then I consider 150 mil COP but think of Blakman and we haven't met but he would probably be disappointed in me. So I give Alejandra 100 mil for the seven hours that we've been together and she immediately asks if she can see me tomorrow. I am so happy here.[/QUOTE]Well-played, Sir, well-played.

Pinky's phone broke the other day, still functional but with vertical lines on the screen. She asked if I could help her. Of course, hours into our evening, in the jacuzzi, I'm very generous. However, when she wakes me up at 9 a after just a few hours of "sleep" - not so much. She wanted to go to Exito Wow with me to look for a new phone. If Wifey wasn't here all the time, for free, and helping me find girls for trios, I'd probably go get Pinky a phone. It just feels weird to do that for her, in front of Wifey. So, I think Pinky was a little upset, but who gives a fuck. I gave her 150 k, this time.

Wifey has been helping her mom, the last couple days. I guess she goes and buys all the ingredients, then takes everything to some cart or store and they make chorizos. 10 k for a 6-pack. I ended up buying 7 packs: 1 for myself, 2 for some Paisa buddies that are stopping by tomorrow to hang out, 3 for the porteros, and 1 for the maintenance guy that gives me free chlorine pellets for the jacuzzi. I was thinking, normally I am very generous with the porteros, and enjoy talking to them on my way in and out of the building. This trip, with COVID-19, has been way different. I don't even talk to them unless they call up when a chica arrives, or if I want them to hold my keys when I go to the grocery store. It's odd. Although, the older guy was an over-bearing dick, when I first moved in, so maybe that factored-in. The younger guys seem cool, and the older guy has softened up. I got a call today about not throwing big trash bags down the trash chute. I asked what color the bag was. White. I told him I only have black bags but thank you for the info! He seemed cool about it. We had a call late one night about a noise complaint. First I have received in almost 3 months, and I heard the noise, but it wasn't us. It was almost like some one was hanging a painting, banging on the walls, but the only wall we share is the kitchen, so it was strange. Wifey asked him about it the last time she was down there, and he said they didn't find anything out; the other resident still says it was us. We were in bed, at the time.

Nothing much to report. Trying to work on a cute girl for a trio. She said no about a week ago, that it was too strange for the first time to be with a couple that she hasn't met. Now she wants a photo of Wifey's pussy to see if she wants to eat it. The freebie from about 10 days ago got her phone stolen by some one on a motorcycle, and finally started messaging again a couple days ago. I saw her twin sister on Tinder and gave her a Super Like, to see if I could either bang a twin sister, or get this chick to settle down with her weird clingy shit after one night.

[QUOTE=ConscienceDoc;2458190]Man,

I'm glad there's people enjoying life right now while I'm stuck at home with nothing but porn haha. Lugnut how long have you been in Medellin? Is it improving lately?[/QUOTE]Hello Doc,

Things have been fine here. I shacked up with a local woman for the quarantine. We'd been dating since early November. She is from here, and we have an agreed friends with benefits relationship, and we haven't questioned it beyond that. This is the first time that I've been in a relationship like this. She is early in her engineering career. We met on Tinder. She invited me to stay with her during the quarantine, in El Centro.

I walked El Centro and Plaza Botero practically every single day. I was never stopped by or questioned by the police. There were very few other gringos. I think there were two other mongers but we never talked.

Ten weeks later when the quarantine ended, I moved into my apartment in Laureles. Everything is still takeout only: restaurants, coffee shops, the BBC taprooms. But everything is available by delivery. I miss sitting outside a corner tienda and having a beer. Socially, things are different. But I'm happy to be here.

Today is Saturday and I was planning a day of rest, since my girlfriend is visiting me tomorrow and I fucked all week. But at around 1130 I received a message from Ivon, 19 yo, a girl who I had chatted with on Tinder. On her Tinder profile she looks super flaca and hot, but the pic she sent me on whatsapp when I requested, her face didn't look so good. So I figured, when she hit me up, that I could meet her at the Tostao as I like to do, and if she wasn't up to snuff, I would give her 50 k COP and send her home.

Well she showed up at Tostao and I was interested. I think she weighs 80 pounds. She had on skinny jeans and a midriff shirt, and she has braces, and she looks very young. I verified her cedula, inspected it for authenticity, compared the photo, and confirmed that she is 19 years of age. Later, she presented her cedula to the portero for verification also.

We walked to the lavanderia to pick up my laundry. She held my hand and was very affectionate. She has been a prepago for a long time. Her 24 yo sister lives in El Poblado and is also a prepago. Ivon lives in Castilla with her dad and two uncles. They know that she is a prepago. She worked for five days webcamming, with a dude, but left the work. (For those that don't know, webcamming is a huge business here.).

We arrived at my apartment and I listed the alcoholic offerings and she went for the Rose. This is a solid choice. For those that will arrive in September, in the markets D1, this Rose costs about $4. Alcohol is much more expensive in the grocery stores.

We drank a bit and listened to music and she was sweet and kind and I was like, Ivon, I want to have sex and then we can listen to music some more. She said, ok, let's shower together. So we get in the shower and she soaps down and scrubs my dick and gets on her knees and gives me a BJ. I stop her before I finish, and we move to the bed. She mounts me and she is a Cowgirl expert, I've never had a girl ride me like that. We do cowgirl forever and after a while, she's like, I want to be your girlfriend, I want to be the only one. I flip her to doggy and hand her the Hitachi and we both go to town, I have a long session in doggy because I'm tired and I've been fucking all week and I'm having a hard time finishing.

We lay down next to each other and are masturbating together. She has the Hitachi and asks for a condom for it, and I apply one, and she puts the vibrating bulb inside her pussy. I'm fucking watching chaturbate live in person. Eventually she seems to be slowing down and I tell her that I want to finish in her mouth, and she gets on her knees on the floor and sucks me off into her mouth. We shower off.

She then gets really, really loving. Like she really wants to be my girlfriend. And I'm appreciating being a gringo in Medellin, in this moment. She asks if she can be my girlfriend, and I'm like, well yeah, but only if we can have the trios that you were talking about earlier.

Ivon had showed me photos of her cousin, 24 yo, and they do trios together. Not lesbianic, but two girls on one guy. "Entre familia, mejor," she said. Between family, better. Unreal.

So she replied, yes, we can have trios, but only with my cousin.

The sheets were soaked with sweat and who knows what, and my girlfriend is coming tomorrow, so I started to strip them but Ivon took over. She wanted to help. So she stripped the sheets and put them in the corner and I was like, Ivon, the sheets go here, in this washing machine. And she seemed amazed that I had a washing machine in my apartment. I was pouring in the soap, and she really wanted to help, to be the person that poured the soap in. And then I was pouring in the bleach, and she wanted to smell it from the bottle, and said that it smelled good. WTF? Bleach? She was acting like it was something new.

Then we were hungry. I had leftover chicken wings (alitas) and a lunch of the day from Cafe Zeppelin, that I had not eaten. Ivon consolidated it onto one dish and microwaved it, and was taking pictures of the plate and sending pics to her dad and on snapchat. Leftovers. Then we sat down and she spoon fed me everything. It was crazy. She was so caring and happy, she literally spoon fed me half my lunch. The craziest part was that she did not know what the chicken wings were. She lifted one up and asked me what it was. I confirmed with her, you've never eaten alitas? No.

So, in the past two weeks, I've been with a girl that's never had chicken wings; a girl that's never had pepperoni; and a girl that's never had pistachios nor blueberries.

Ivon and I head back to the couch with some red wine. She thinks that the flavor is strong; she prefers whiskey. We're kicking back listening to music and she's asking to be my girlfriend and then she initiates sex. We strip down and I take photos of her with the Hitachi, and then I go at it in doggy and her on the edge of the couch, and it takes me a really long time because I'm tired after all of my efforts, but I take little bumps of Cialis, so it's all good. After a long time I finish, and we shower again.

She dresses and is on her phone and tells me that she's ready to leave. We had never discussed money up until this point. She's all packed up and I give her 150 k COP and ask her if that's OK. She asks for 200 k, and I agree. Whatever, that's like a $13 difference and I was happy and I'm not a good negotiator and I did prompt her. So I gave her 200 k and called her an Uber ($3) and walked her out.

Saturday in Medellin, a day of rest.

Let's take mongering out of the equation. Let's say you never monger but you are a cashier at a supermarket or you like to take walks for exercise. Do you think somebody who beds down a girl a day is at more risk than somebody who rides a packed bus from Robledo to Centro every day?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458278]I'm not sure if I follow your logic here. I see it quite simply that for mongers that go with multiple women, they are going to be in contact with women that have been in contact with numerous other people who may be carriers, so logic would tell you that a monger would be at a higher risk of becoming infected just based on pure " numbers", with the "logic" being that the less people a monger interact's with, the lower the odds of becoming infected. If this wasn't the case, then why all the lock-downs and social distancing. This appears to be logical, unless I am missing something here, and if so, what?

As far as getting tested, I am assuming you were referring to being tested for immunity versus being tested for the virus if your symptom free. I got tested myself, and unfortunately was negative, so if you test positive knowing you have the anti-bodies, and the test wasn't a false positive, that might empower some guys to go out and bang everything in site. At least I would like a rabid dog.

The issue which you have raised is how much tolerance for risk do guy's have while mongering during the Pandemic, and I am curious as to what others think about this as it must be on everyone's minds, or perhaps there's no concerns, or fears, or am I just out in left field like I normally am?[/QUOTE]

Almost every chica I've ever been with wears an XS in USA Sizes. On occasion, one might take an S if she has more hips or ass. The girl will tell you S (which is what she'd buy in Colombia), but an S in the USA Will likely be too big for her. Bras? Depends on the kind of girl you like. But I'd say the most popular size I've seen is 34 B (unless you are with a spinner). A lot of these girls have bras that do no fit right. They do not have the luxury of someone to fit their bra like in VS.

The girls like VS or VS Pink. Wait for a sale. I have also ordered some stuff off of Wish. Super cheap (from China. Mixed emotions about buying from there now). I also use a company called ForPlay. Not as expensive as VS (when not on sale) and not as cheap as Wish. I don't buy a lot of this stuff. Just some for a few girls I see regularly, especially the non-pros who deserve something. I buy what I like to see them wear.

Other guys will tell you to forget about the gifts. I have no problem with that position either.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2458292]I know some of you take bras and panties as gifts for the chicas.

How do you pick the sizes? What are the inexpensive but desired brands?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2458340]Almost every chica I've ever been with wears an XS in USA Sizes. On occasion, one might take an S if she has more hips or ass. The girl will tell you S (which is what she'd buy in Colombia), but an S in the USA Will likely be too big for her. Bras? Depends on the kind of girl you like. But I'd say the most popular size I've seen is 34 B (unless you are with a spinner). A lot of these girls have bras that do no fit right. They do not have the luxury of someone to fit their bra like in VS.

The girls like VS or VS Pink. Wait for a sale. I have also ordered some stuff off of Wish. Super cheap (from China. Mixed emotions about buying from there now). I also use a company called ForPlay. Not as expensive as VS (when not on sale) and not as cheap as Wish. I don't buy a lot of this stuff. Just some for a few girls I see regularly, especially the non-pros who deserve something. I buy what I like to see them wear.

Other guys will tell you to forget about the gifts. I have no problem with that position either.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. That is good information. I see a few chicas in Medellin, and the cup sizes range from an A to probably a the. I don't think they are properly sized for fit there. I asked a girl who I think is a the what her cup size is and she said a be. I told her she was probably a the, and she came back and said that it says be on her bra. I thought the bra was too tight for her. Anyway, the women's sizing charts are more complicated than rocket science. If I want to buy them something in Medellin, where would be a good place, that doesn't break the bank.

I have had Pros and SBs in the US. Once I have rapport with them, I sometimes ask them for nudes, and they send them, and also video clips. I had only had one SB ask for my dick picks. She was batshit crazy, but that is another story. Generally, the chicks in the US never asked for dick picks, and when they got an unsolicited one, they were pissed off.

Now, I pretty much do the same with Colombian chicas, I get their pics and videos, but they ask me for my dick picks. I have been with these girls and they have seen it. I am about average, definitely not exceptional. I do indulge them, but I can't figure out the difference between the two sets. Anyone have any thoughts?

Also, I have been shot down in Medellin only once, and it was a mini BBW. Never been shot down by the hot chicks. Really surprised she shot me down. I wanted to have a chubby chick to try and got shot down. Any thoughts. It looks like the laws of nature are upside down in Medellin. LOL.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2458289]Where did you get your Hydroxychloriquine+Zpack?[/QUOTE]Over the counter at most pharmacies in Colombia also codeine ($8/10 pills) , amoxicillin ($2/10 pills), Testosterone ($7/250 MG in syringe). It was scarce 3 months ago as the government and many people bought it up.

I hear it is best taken with zinc when you start to have bad symptoms.

I actually do wear a mask when I'm around crowds but the cases here are quite low 49000.

Health.

Colombia's Medellin emerges as surprise COVID-19 pioneer.

CHRISTINE ARMARIO.

Associated PressJune 13,2020, 7:08 AM PDT.

Virus Outbreak Colombia. Trailblazing Medellin.

In this June 8, 2020 photo, a sign reminding citizens to maintain a safe social distance sits on a park bench between a woman and child, amid the new coronavirus pandemic in Medellin, Colombia, which recently went five weeks without a single COVID-19 death. The new challenge for Medellin will be to convince citizens to continue abiding by safety measures like wearing face masks and social distancing. In some poor neighborhoods, local activists say they've encountered skepticism about the virus. (AP Photo / Luis Benavides).

Bogota, Colombia (AP) — Two and a half million residents. Four confirmed coronavirus deaths.

As coronavirus cases surge in Latin America, the Colombian city of Medellin is defying expectations and managing to keep numbers remarkably low.

Months into the pandemic, there are just 741 confirmed cases citywide and only 10 patients hospitalized in ICUs with COVID-19. The metropolis recently went five weeks without a single COVID-19 death.

"Medellin can be considered a best-case scenario," said Dr. Carlos Espinal, director of Florida International University's Global Health Consortium.

In theory, that shouldn't be the case. The city is dense, home to many poor residents who will go hungry if they quarantine for too long and connected by a congested public transportation system. All these factors have made the virus especially hard to contain in Latin America.

How has Medellin, so far, defied the odds?

City officials and epidemiologists credit early preparation, a novel app that connected needy residents with food and cash while also collecting important data that later helped track cases, and a medical system that has moved rapidly to treat the sick before they fall critically ill.

Mayor Daniel Quintero's critics fear the immense data being collected on citizens amounts to a severe invasion of privacy, but even they admit that it has proven effective in containing COVID-19.

"It's impossible to fight the virus without information," Quintero, 39, said. "We'the have deaths in the hundreds if we hadn't made these decisions. ".

Quintero, Medellin's youngest mayor ever, is an engineer by training who began holding COVID-19 prep meetings in January, weeks after taking office. The virus was a blip on the radar for most Latin American governments back then. Some thought he was absurd for worrying about a virus raging in China.

Medellin did many of the things other cities would try in the weeks ahead, but it had some built-in advantages. Its international airport receives far fewer travelers from abroad than bigger cities like Bogota. That made tracking passengers landing from hot spots like Spain and the USA Easier. It also has what is considered one of the best public health systems in Latin America.

Quintero said he knew that in order for many residents to quarantine, they'the need food and cash. Using his tech background, he led the city in launching Medellin Me Cuida (Medellin Takes Care of Me), an app offering aid to those who signed up and requested help.

The response has been enormous: 1. 3 million families – some 3. 25 million people in total – from Medellin and surrounding areas registered.

The aid was key for Maritza Alvarez, who lives with six elderly relatives, two of whom are street vendors. Since signing up, she said they've gotten packages of food three times and two cash transfers. That has allowed them to mostly stay indoors instead of going out to earn money and buy food.

The app also asks questions such as who users live with, if they have COVID-19 symptoms and what pre-existing health conditions they suffer. That information has proven key in identifying cases, but it has also raised concerns.

Two cases have been filed in court challenging Medellin's assertion that downloading and registering with the app is voluntary, noting that businesses and employees are being asked to sign up in order to restart work. A judge ruled in favor of one complainant, agreeing that not all the information requested should be obligatory. Others are concerned about what the data might be used for once the pandemic is over.

"Technology is an important tool in controlling the virus," Daniel Duque, a councilman, wrote in a recent blog post. "But the pandemic shouldn't be an excuse for governments to turn into a Big Brother that watches and controls everything. ".

In an interview with The Associated Press, Quintero brushed such concerns aside.

"They're partly right. Medellin is the city in Latin America with the most information on its citizens," he said via Zoom from his headquarters, brightly lit screens with charts and maps behind him. "But the question of our intentions in how we use this data can't be doubted. ".

In Medellin, medical workers test anyone suspected of having COVID-19 at their home. Those who test positive are given a free oximeter. If their blood oxygen levels dip, nurses bring oxygen to their homes. Those who don't improve are taken to the hospital.

The app has proven key in quickly tracking down those who may have had contact with someone who tests positive. Medellin does about 40 coronavirus tests for each case diagnosed, a number over double the nationwide average, officials said.

Though Medellin's per million testing rate is low, several epidemiologists said they believe the city's more targeted testing is proving effective. Colombian scientists estimate that for each COVID-19 death there are at least 100 more cases. That means in Medellin, which has had four deaths, there should be at least 400 infected people. The city has currently identified about 300 cases on top of that amount.

Bogota, by contrast, has reported at least 339 coronavirus deaths but has only detected around 14,500 cases, suggesting that despite more testing per million people, they still haven't found many of the existing cases.

Still, confirmed coronavirus cases in Medellin have increased from around five to 16 per day since the city reopened its economy in May. Police officers are using newly developed software to scan ID cards of citizens boarding buses and entering malls to ensure they have permission to be out and about.

"We are entering a new phase now," said Dr. Juan Carlos Cataño, an epidemiologist with the Antioquia Foundation for Epidemiology. "We hope to count on a health system that is sufficiently prepared. ".

Like much of Latin America, Medellin found it difficult to equip hospitals with more ICU beds. Global prices for ventilators skyrocketed at the start of the pandemic and supply dried up. Medellin initially had 332; today it has 453. In an emergency scenario, the city plans to utilize ventilators made at a university in Medellin.

Current projections indicate the city will reach peak caseload in July or October.

The challenge for Medellin will now be to convince citizens to continue abiding by safety measures like wearing face masks and social distancing. In some poor neighborhoods, local activists say they've encountered skepticism about the virus.

"People think it's a lie, that COVID-19 is a government invention," said Gustavo Lainez, a community leader. "Misinformation is a huge factor. ".

Still, he said all but perhaps 2% of the 140,000 people who live in the area where he works have agreed to sign up for Medellin Me Cuida.

Over the last two decades, Medellin has undergone an urban transformation, leaving behind the days marred by the violence of Pablo Escobar's drug cartel and boosting education, libraries, parks and other civic projects. But the virus has brought new hurdles. Unemployment in the metro area is now at 17.3%, the highest in 18 years.

Locals believe their reputation for discipline and industriousness will carry them through another difficult chapter in Colombia's history.

"We feel supported," said Alvarez, the beneficiary of food packages. "I never thought big data would help me. ".

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2458340]Almost every chica I've ever been with wears an XS in USA Sizes. On occasion, one might take an S if she has more hips or ass. The girl will tell you S (which is what she'd buy in Colombia), but an S in the USA Will likely be too big for her. Bras? Depends on the kind of girl you like. But I'd say the most popular size I've seen is 34 B (unless you are with a spinner). A lot of these girls have bras that do no fit right. They do not have the luxury of someone to fit their bra like in VS.

The girls like VS or VS Pink. Wait for a sale. I have also ordered some stuff off of Wish. Super cheap (from China. Mixed emotions about buying from there now). I also use a company called ForPlay. Not as expensive as VS (when not on sale) and not as cheap as Wish. I don't buy a lot of this stuff. Just some for a few girls I see regularly, especially the non-pros who deserve something. I buy what I like to see them wear.

Other guys will tell you to forget about the gifts. I have no problem with that position either.[/QUOTE]Spot on about sizing and the paisas love of VS items.

About 3 years back I purchased many VS items on promotion, sale and by the lot from places like ebay and so had a complete stock of items ranging from panties, jogging outfits, VS back packs, lingerie, slippers, blouses, short-shorts, caps, accessories, bath robes, etc. And so when I would invite a chica to my man cave and allow them to choose 3 or 4 items just the look and excitement on their faces as we entered my second bedroom where it was all displayed was priceless.

The result was that some of these just had to have their best friend come for an overnight visit with them the following days, gawd these are what memories are made of.

Fast forward 3 years and a few of these, who were fresh, 18 yo, all natural beauties and completely non-pro at the time now grace the pages of Facebook with a look of fashion models.

For a year or two after they received my VS gifts periodically I would see them proudly adorn themselves with photos on Facebook, Tinder, Instagram and other sites looking cute as hell. Kind of cool to see appreciation. One of my all time favorites still has the VS back pack I gave her 3 years ago and it is her most prized possession.

Have not done purchased any VS gifts in the past few years but just might have another run at this when on a future visit to LOS Angeles.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2458197]That's probably easier than wrapping himself up with saran wrap and wearing scuba gear.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2v7jlIBL1A[/URL]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2458001]The dick was so pathetic. But slapshot Karol looked hot. [/QUOTE]SWEET REDEMPTION!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2458236]I remind everyone once again you do not have to fuck somebody to catch the virus or infect somebody with the virus. Applying basic logic leads a reasonable person to acknowledge it is highly unlikely any significant portion of the multiple millions of infections are related in any way to mongering. Everyone has to decide whether they are going to self quarantine indefinitely or get on with life because, again, mongering is not nearly a Coronavirus vector any knowledgeable health care professionals recognize. People are catching it mostly from day to day interactions. If you are in a known high risk group for complications then it is prudent to hold out for a vaccine or treatment. If you are prone to fretting enough to damage your health in other ways it is better to stay locked up and sanitize everything within reach and your food and drink if it brings comfort. Anyone who is really worried should get tested, but first also then decide what you would do differently based on the test result.[/QUOTE]I don't know if it's just being on the younger, fit side, or my reckless abandon, but I just can't imagine walking around on eggshells 24/7. Now, that doesn't mean when I'm in Centro I get the sudden urge to bang a bunch of zombies, and even the better looking girls scare me a bit. That being said, if it's a chica from Tinder / WhatsApp / Seeking, then it's all systems go. I would think the majority of them are not out banging 4 guys a day, but what the fuck do I know. I present them with as much of a risk as they do me, to be quite honest. At this point, as Surfer500 mentioned, I wouldn't mind seeing a positive test result for the anti-body. I'd feel invincible.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2458292]I know some of you take bras and panties as gifts for the chicas.

How do you pick the sizes? What are the inexpensive but desired brands?[/QUOTE]I have a fairly complex set of guidelines for this: If you like fat chicks, buy L-XL. If you like petite chicks, buy XS-S. If you can't decide, buy M. I often will hit Target, etc. For my pre-trip necessities: condoms, etc. When I'm there, I'll grab anything I can find off the discount rack. 3-for-1 panties, 40%-off bikinis, 2-for-1 perfume, little makeup knick-knacks, candy, etc etc etc. ONCE out of about 50 gifts has a chick made a comment. She asked if I had a different fragrance of perfume from the same company. Shocker, the more expensive one. GTFO with that shit. The girls love the gifts, and I think I spend on average maybe $100 to bring a whole bag of shit. I've been out since April, but even candies and shit from Carulla / Exito go over well.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2458327]She's all packed up and I give her 150 k COP and ask her if that's OK. She asks for 200 k, and I agree. Whatever, that's like a $13 difference and I was happy and I'm not a good negotiator and I did prompt her. So I gave her 200 k and called her an Uber ($3) and walked her out.

Saturday in Medellin, a day of rest.[/QUOTE]Lugger, you're on a hot streak! I like your routine. Especially the meeting at a neutral location. Although, I never use that tactic, it would have saved me a couple of my lower-end experiences, when I wasn't particularly attracted to a chick, but didn't want the awkwardness or negotiation in my own apartment. You never know when she has a driver, boyfriend, brother, friend, waiting downstairs. I have security in place here, but that could be a concern in some situations. What's your average time spend mining Tinder, etc. , on a daily basis?

I matched with the freebie's twin on Seeking, as well as Tinder, which I had previously mentioned. We exchanged a couple messages on Seeking, and she asked if I was in Medellin. I'm wondering how to play this one. Do I just go straight to the point. I know your sister, we had a great time, are you free tomorrow night at 9 p? Or do I keep it coy, and try to do it on the sly?

If anyone cares, I talked to a trainer from SmartFit; good guy, somewhat social-media-famous type. He said no one knows when gyms can re-open, but they are hopeful and they are preparing.

I have a question that doesn't necessarily apply, today, but at some point it will. I often see guys mention Viagra / Cialis, but I have never tried it. It's very rare that I would need it, but I am wondering what others' first experience was like? Amazing? Scary? Given the way I like to party, is it a health concern when you add something like this into the mix (asking for SJobs, really)?

Happy Sunday! Happy early Father's Day to some of you sick puppies!

Been using it about 10 years now. A.

Blood rush to the brain, maybe even a sweat, rapid heart beat, headache initially may happen. Likely not. Body will get use to it. Just learn if full one or half is necessary. And required time to use it. All will be knowledgeable over time. Once I discovered viagra. Taking girls out to dinner drop to zero. They were satisfied getting fucked at my home.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2458461]SWEET REDEMPTION!

I don't know if it's just being on the younger, fit side, or my reckless abandon, but I just can't imagine walking around on eggshells 24/7. Now, that doesn't mean when I'm in Centro I get the sudden urge to bang a bunch of zombies, and even the better looking girls scare me a bit. That being said, if it's a chica from Tinder / WhatsApp / Seeking, then it's all systems go. I would think the majority of them are not out banging 4 guys a day, but what the fuck do I know. I present them with as much of a risk as they do me, to be quite honest. At this point, as Surfer500 mentioned, I wouldn't mind seeing a positive test result for the anti-body. I'd feel invincible.

I have a fairly complex set of guidelines for this: If you like fat chicks, buy L-XL. If you like petite chicks, buy XS-S. If you can't decide, buy M. I often will hit Target, etc. For my pre-trip necessities: condoms, etc. When I'm there, I'll grab anything I can find off the discount rack. 3-for-1 panties, 40%-off bikinis, 2-for-1 perfume, little makeup knick-knacks, candy, etc etc etc. ONCE out of about 50 gifts has a chick made a comment. She asked if I had a different fragrance of perfume from the same company. Shocker, the more expensive one. GTFO with that shit. The girls love the gifts, and I think I spend on average maybe $100 to bring a whole bag of shit. I've been out since April, but even candies and shit from Carulla / Exito go over well.

Lugger, you're on a hot streak! I like your routine. Especially the meeting at a neutral location. Although, I never use that tactic, it would have saved me a couple of my lower-end experiences, when I wasn't particularly attracted to a chick, but didn't want the awkwardness or negotiation in my own apartment. You never know when she has a driver, boyfriend, brother, friend, waiting downstairs. I have security in place here, but that could be a concern in some situations. What's your average time spend mining Tinder, etc. , on a daily basis?

I matched with the freebie's twin on Seeking, as well as Tinder, which I had previously mentioned. We exchanged a couple messages on Seeking, and she asked if I was in Medellin. I'm wondering how to play this one. Do I just go straight to the point. I know your sister, we had a great time, are you free tomorrow night at 9 p? Or do I keep it coy, and try to do it on the sly?

If anyone cares, I talked to a trainer from SmartFit; good guy, somewhat social-media-famous type. He said no one knows when gyms can re-open, but they are hopeful and they are preparing.

I have a question that doesn't necessarily apply, today, but at some point it will. I often see guys mention Viagra / Cialis, but I have never tried it. It's very rare that I would need it, but I am wondering what others' first experience was like? Amazing? Scary? Given the way I like to party, is it a health concern when you add something like this into the mix (asking for SJobs, really)?

Happy Sunday! Happy early Father's Day to some of you sick puppies![/QUOTE].

Rang the doorbell. Guy looks out window. I say chicas. I am still waiting about 5 minutes and girl come down. Use my translater to say looking for girls. She walks me upstairs and sit down to a line up. This place has mostly girls between 18 -22. Its early so theres only 6 available. I pick a girl like size 3 body, ass, abs, and a walk that exudes I can fuck confidence. We go to the room. She puts on music. Seem like each girl gets a portable speaker. Good music. She starts dancing. This is the shit I love about Colombia. The lap dances giving by a non pro or pro. They enjoy it and are creative in presenting it. She puts on the condom and takes control. Sucking me off in such away that seems I like don't have the condom. She really enjoys it and definitely know what she's doing. Thing I like number 2 about Colombia the head job. She was masterful. Then she gets on top. Rides me so good. Then doggy. I am giving to her and she is giving it back. When I slow down she keeps going. Slowing down, dancing on the dick. 3rd thing I like about Colombia. Girls be dancing on that dick to the music. Then we go to missionary. She let's me put her legs over my shoulders, and spread them wide. Pussy right there to hammer and hit rock bottom. She lets me bang away til I hit a certain spot then I had to slow down. This girl had no flaws. Not a 7,8,9,10. But fucking skills was off the chart. 50 minutes in I nutted in pussy twice. A slight one initially then I continued going for the big one. Its interesting every girl I fucked at this casa nutted in the pussy. Condom speaking. I enjoyed her music playlist and ask for her to send me some music which she did. I will repeat with this girl along with going to the casa every day. 60 mil is my morning session.

So she tells the night before she can come 4 pm to 10 am 140 mil. I say ok. I rejected her offer 9 pm to 10 am. She arrives about 4:30 pm. Not bad. Looks hot. Soft body very visible. I set up the table with my snacks. Rum and coke. Salud. Get her to dance on my lap. My face finds it's way between her ass cheeks. She is very skillful in dancing and keeping my face there. I have never experienced this before cause I don't go to strip clubs in usa. She ask me do I want to go upstairs hmmm. I say chill let's enjoy this some more. I playing music given to me by previous girl. We both enjoying. She ask a second time to go upstairs. I say okay. We get up there and I get her to suck my dick. I go behind her to lick her pussy. We then get to 69. I learn this is the best position to lick her pussy cause the other way I would be there for lengthy time and not close to cumming. But 69 she nutted really good and reasonable time. So we go to doggy and then missionary. Looking at her natural beauty is a turn on and the fact she likes cumming in her mouth and face is additionally exciting. I cum on her face and she walks to the bathroom with no rush to get it off. I like that. Anyways we go down stairs and she cooks fish, plantains, and rice. We eat things is fabulous. Love the way it's going. I surprise her with these shoes I brought from the states. She likes and we take pics. All going good right. Well she ask when I am leaving. I tell her. Then She says they open up the border. I say no. Shortly after she tells me she has to leave to go home. I say okay but no dinero. She gets dress so I know she's serious and ask for the money. I say not til you come back and finish up your time. She then threatens to call police. I say go ahead. I told security I don't pay you til tomorrow and the cops going to see you text. She takes off her clothes and says fine. I will stay but no sex. In my mind I am like damn how could things shift so fast. Anyways I go up to the bedroom and I am laying next to her but not touching. She puts her legs on me and then position herself for missionary doggy style. I fuck her like that for a bit but cannot cum. She resist turning over and she is back to no sex. She plays with tic toc for a long time and shows me family having a party and that's where she wanted to go. Anyways I didn't get a second nut til like 10 am in the morning. I took back the shoes and told her I give it to her before I go. She doesn't know I am not going to see her again. But she seem happy thinking she's going to get another pay day. Paid her the 140 mil and she takes selfie in elevator and leaves. Well winding down guys. Medellin will be one less monger soon.

Go to a mall in Centro. Or even a sex shop. DO NOT buy stuff like this in the big, expensive malls, especially at places like Leonisa. You'll pay out the nose and the girls will not appreciate the difference.

It's like with alcohol. Girls sometimes ask to bring them a bottle of something they have seen or heard of. But they couldn't tell the difference between Tito's and Popov if they tried! Jejejeje.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2458361]Thanks man. That is good information. I see a few chicas in Medellin, and the cup sizes range from an A to probably a the. I don't think they are properly sized for fit there. I asked a girl who I think is a the what her cup size is and she said a be. I told her she was probably a the, and she came back and said that it says be on her bra. I thought the bra was too tight for her. Anyway, the women's sizing charts are more complicated than rocket science. If I want to buy them something in Medellin, where would be a good place, that doesn't break the bank.
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[QUOTE=Woodman09;2458371]Over the counter at most pharmacies in Colombia also codeine ($8/10 pills) , amoxicillin ($2/10 pills), Testosterone ($7/250 MG in syringe). It was scarce 3 months ago as the government and many people bought it up.

I hear it is best taken with zinc when you start to have bad symptoms.

I actually do wear a mask when I'm around crowds but the cases here are quite low 49000.[/QUOTE]Thanks Woodman. I used to take the "Testoviron Depot" enanthate injection. But for the past 2 years or more, every pharmacy has told me it is "agotado" . Exhausted, sold out so I gave up and stopped asking. Is it available again?

Last spring, a pharmacy on la 70 sold me another testosterone injection. A mix of 4 molecular structures. 10 dose vial. However, I have greatly reduced my frequency for about a year. Why? My research finds that testosterone can often easily morph into estrogen, giving the complete opposite effect being sought. Its all quite complex mechanisms, but that's it in a nutshell. Also, I notice changes in my body that support the unwanted presence of estrogen.

Not to mention the fact that regular testosterone supplement can greatly inhibit natural testosterone production. So, a thoughtful and strategic balance of supplementation is highly in order.

So, the next order of business is to secure a safe and effective estrogen blocker. (seeking Cortisol blocker as well) . There are 2 main routes to explore, dietary supplements v. Pharma. I'm often exploring and feeling out various pharmacies. I seemed to have found a very "liberal" one right in my neighborhood. He has, with in the past 2 weeks, sold to me, without hesitation, 2 meds that I well know, from past pursuits, are controlled (requiring documented, processed scripts). I was really pleased with what arrived to me yesterday within 2 hours of inquiring about it.

Thus, I am beginning to be hopeful I can get a pharmaceutical estrogen blocker. Among other things. I welcome anyone's thoughts and experiences on this topic.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2458296]This is my honest opinion about Covid is this, no one on this board knows what going on and neither do the scientist currently working on a vaccine. Unless you are a scientist or researcher, why even speak on an illness that you or no one in the medical community knows how it is transmitted. I honestly feel like it would be just too much for some of the BMs to not bring up conspiracy theories about this virus.

Clearly the American medical community is afraid to say that they don't know what's going on. Many statistics are faulty, but here we are on forum board flaming the fire about virus that has killed many and struck fear in all corners of the world. You don't have to man up and admit that you have no idea how this virus overtook the world, the best minds in the world do not have a clue.

One thing for sure is this, there are many people in the United States are walking around with Covid-19 and have no symptoms at all. The best practice is to isolate or come to grips with reality and reality is this, if you have contact with anyone outside of your home, you run the risk of contracting the virus. Lets not spread fear, lets make the facts known and leave it at that. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]I fully agree. I've grown quite weary of the fear, fear-mongering. And frankly the cowardice and ignorance much of the general public exhibit.

I'm doing half a testoviron every 7-10 days. It is widely available here in Bogota. I don't feel I have an estrogen problem.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2458490]Thanks Woodman. I used to take the "Testoviron Depot" enanthate injection. But for the past 2 years or more, every pharmacy has told me it is "agotado" . Exhausted, sold out so I gave up and stopped asking. Is it available again?

Last spring, a pharmacy on la 70 sold me another testosterone injection. A mix of 4 molecular structures. 10 dose vial. However, I have greatly reduced my frequency for about a year. Why? My research finds that testosterone can often easily morph into estrogen, giving the complete opposite effect being sought. Its all quite complex mechanisms, but that's it in a nutshell. Also, I notice changes in my body that support the unwanted presence of estrogen.

Not to mention the fact that regular testosterone supplement can greatly inhibit natural testosterone production. So, a thoughtful and strategic balance of supplementation is highly in order.

So, the next order of business is to secure a safe and effective estrogen blocker. (seeking Cortisol blocker as well) . There are 2 main routes to explore, dietary supplements v. Pharma. I'm often exploring and feeling out various pharmacies. I seemed to have found a very "liberal" one right in my neighborhood. He has, with in the past 2 weeks, sold to me, without hesitation, 2 meds that I well know, from past pursuits, are controlled (requiring documented, processed scripts). I was really pleased with what arrived to me yesterday within 2 hours of inquiring about it.

Thus, I am beginning to be hopeful I can get a pharmaceutical estrogen blocker. Among other things. I welcome anyone's thoughts and experiences on this topic.[/QUOTE]

When are you leaving Blakman? Maybe we should have an auction for your little black book?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2458487]So she tells the night before she can come 4 pm to 10 am 140 mil. I say ok. I rejected her offer 9 pm to 10 am. She arrives about 4:30 pm. Not bad. Looks hot. Soft body very visible. I set up the table with my snacks. Rum and coke. Salud. Get her to dance on my lap. My face finds it's way between her ass cheeks. She is very skillful in dancing and keeping my face there. I have never experienced this before cause I don't go to strip clubs in usa. She ask me do I want to go upstairs hmmm. I say chill let's enjoy this some more. I playing music given to me by previous girl. We both enjoying. She ask a second time to go upstairs. I say okay. We get up there and I get her to suck my dick. I go behind her to lick her pussy. We then get to 69. I learn this is the best position to lick her pussy cause the other way I would be there for lengthy time and not close to cumming. But 69 she nutted really good and reasonable time. So we go to doggy and then missionary. Looking at her natural beauty is a turn on and the fact she likes cumming in her mouth and face is additionally exciting. I cum on her face and she walks to the bathroom with no rush to get it off. I like that. Anyways we go down stairs and she cooks fish, plantains, and rice. We eat things is fabulous. Love the way it's going. I surprise her with these shoes I brought from the states. She likes and we take pics. All going good right. Well she ask when I am leaving. I tell her. Then She says they open up the border. I say no. Shortly after she tells me she has to leave to go home. I say okay but no dinero. She gets dress so I know she's serious and ask for the money. I say not til you come back and finish up your time. She then threatens to call police. I say go ahead. I told security I don't pay you til tomorrow and the cops going to see you text. She takes off her clothes and says fine. I will stay but no sex. In my mind I am like damn how could things shift so fast. Anyways I go up to the bedroom and I am laying next to her but not touching..[/QUOTE]

According to what I've read a positive antibody test means you have been exposed to the virus and, assuming the result was not part of an autopsy, you survived. But it does not necessarily mean you are immune to re-infection.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2458461]SWEET REDEMPTION!

I don't know if it's just being on the younger, fit side, or my reckless abandon, but I just can't imagine walking around on eggshells 24/7. Now, that doesn't mean when I'm in Centro I get the sudden urge to bang a bunch of zombies, and even the better looking girls scare me a bit. That being said, if it's a chica from Tinder / WhatsApp / Seeking, then it's all systems go. I would think the majority of them are not out banging 4 guys a day, but what the fuck do I know. I present them with as much of a risk as they do me, to be quite honest. At this point, as Surfer500 mentioned, I wouldn't mind seeing a positive test result for the anti-body. I'd feel invincible.

I have a fairly complex set of guidelines for this: If you like fat chicks, buy L-XL. If you like petite chicks, buy XS-S. If you can't decide, buy M. I often will hit Target, etc. For my pre-trip necessities: condoms, etc. When I'm there, I'll grab anything I can find off the discount rack. 3-for-1 panties, 40%-off bikinis, 2-for-1 perfume, little makeup knick-knacks, candy, etc etc etc. ONCE out of about 50 gifts has a chick made a comment. She asked if I had a different fragrance of perfume from the same company. Shocker, the more expensive one. GTFO with that shit. The girls love the gifts, and I think I spend on average maybe $100 to bring a whole bag of shit. I've been out since April, but even candies and shit from Carulla / Exito go over well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2458461]I have a question that doesn't necessarily apply, today, but at some point it will. I often see guys mention Viagra / Cialis, but I have never tried it. It's very rare that I would need it, but I am wondering what others' first experience was like? Amazing? Scary? Given the way I like to party, is it a health concern when you add something like this into the mix (asking for SJobs, really)?[/QUOTE]I have the same question, I never used Viagra before, and I don't have the need now. I can still fuck 4-5 times a day, but it's a noticeable decrease from my usual 6-8 times. What does it like? I heard people say that you can fuck for 4 hours straight, if that's true, then I will be in heaven. Has anyone mix it with tussi, ecstasy and whiskey before?

I was chatting with a chica on SA. She said "Te esperamos!" This seems to imply that it is an agency with a group of girls. Am I wrong?

I would need to see more of the conversation but she could have been speaking on behalf of the Colombian people. Or you could be dealing with an agency.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2458521]I was chatting with a chica on SA. She said "Te esperamos!" This seems to imply that it is an agency with a group of girls. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2458480]60 mil is my morning session.[/QUOTE]I spoke to a good looking chica last night that told me she is at a 60 mil place in the Estadio area. Might be the same spot. I'm thinking about shooting through there this week.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2458490]Thanks Woodman. I used to take the "Testoviron Depot" enanthate injection. But for the past 2 years or more, every pharmacy has told me it is "agotado" . Exhausted, sold out so I gave up and stopped asking. Is it available again?

Last spring, a pharmacy on la 70 sold me another testosterone injection. A mix of 4 molecular structures. 10 dose vial. However, I have greatly reduced my frequency for about a year. Why? My research finds that testosterone can often easily morph into estrogen, giving the complete opposite effect being sought. Its all quite complex mechanisms, but that's it in a nutshell. Also, I notice changes in my body that support the unwanted presence of estrogen.

Not to mention the fact that regular testosterone supplement can greatly inhibit natural testosterone production. So, a thoughtful and strategic balance of supplementation is highly in order.

So, the next order of business is to secure a safe and effective estrogen blocker. (seeking Cortisol blocker as well) . There are 2 main routes to explore, dietary supplements v. Pharma. I'm often exploring and feeling out various pharmacies. I seemed to have found a very "liberal" one right in my neighborhood. He has, with in the past 2 weeks, sold to me, without hesitation, 2 meds that I well know, from past pursuits, are controlled (requiring documented, processed scripts). I was really pleased with what arrived to me yesterday within 2 hours of inquiring about it.

Thus, I am beginning to be hopeful I can get a pharmaceutical estrogen blocker. Among other things. I welcome anyone's thoughts and experiences on this topic.[/QUOTE]Care to share the contact of the liberal pharmacy?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2458461]Lugger, you're on a hot streak! I like your routine. Especially the meeting at a neutral location. Although, I never use that tactic, it would have saved me a couple of my lower-end experiences, when I wasn't particularly attracted to a chick, but didn't want the awkwardness or negotiation in my own apartment. You never know when she has a driver, boyfriend, brother, friend, waiting downstairs. I have security in place here, but that could be a concern in some situations. What's your average time spend mining Tinder, etc. , on a daily basis?[/QUOTE]I have security here too and am really enjoying having a portero. I am the only foreigner in my building, that's one of the reasons that I meet the girls outside at the coffee shop: I want to be a good neighbor, and not bring any negative attention to myself. I walk every girl up to the door and register her. In my mind, I'm being a safe host by having the girl meet me outside so she can know me too, but I don't think the girls here care, they are very trusting.

I spend no more than 20 minutes a day on Tinder. I use Tinder Gold, so I know who has liked me, and when I swipe on her it's an automatic match, and I send a message right away. It's really efficient. All of the chats are basically the same.

Not sure how much I will Tinder this week; Alejandra the Paisa Paisa is coming over tomorrow, and Michell is coming on Tuesday. They are both very repeatable for me, at this time. Also on Tuesday, I have a real coffee date with a 39 yo litigation attorney.

Want to say that this was useful advice for me. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456966]As we all know "mor" is the mating call of every Paisa. You can use that, or amor and they'll like it. Here are some other words which they'll like: princesa, cielo, corazon, vida, preciosa. Princess, heaven, heart, life and precious. Vida should be preceded by "mi.'

When you add on "mi" or "mio" it multiplies the result. "Amor, como ests?" "Love, how are you?" Or "Como ests amor mio?" The first is pretty generic, the last one is more intimate.

If you sprinkle those in your conversation you'll notice a change in attitude. Even the hardest puta will soften up when you send a message like "he estado pensando en ti mi princesa. " I've been thinking about you my princess. Now instead of haggling over how much she will get and what she will do, she's thinking princess thoughts. You move from just another customer to a potential prince.

I don't miss an opportunity to toss out a bit of sweetness now. Even if it's just to tell someone I'm not interested in buying their pictures, I'll drop an amor or 2. It seems to back them away from the begging quicker..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2458521]I was chatting with a chica on SA. She said "Te esperamos!" This seems to imply that it is an agency with a group of girls. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Espera means wait esperamos we wait. So add the te I thing she said we will be waiting for you and your money papi.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2458534]I would need to see more of the conversation but she could have been speaking on behalf of the Colombian people. Or you could be dealing with an agency.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I did not read the message. I only saw that from preview. She favorited me but she switched her location to New York so it is a little weird. I don't plan to read her message.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2458510]I have the same question, I never used Viagra before, and I don't have the need now. I can still fuck 4-5 times a day, but it's a noticeable decrease from my usual 6-8 times. What does it like? I heard people say that you can fuck for 4 hours straight, if that's true, then I will be in heaven. Has anyone mix it with tussi, ecstasy and whiskey before?[/QUOTE]I don't know if that is true. To me the effect is that I can get hard very quickly for no reason and stay hard after sex.

I don't think you need it. There are usually 2 dosages over the counter, 50 MG and 100 MG available. It is best to not start with full dosage, many people who need it only need 25 MG. If that is not sufficient, gradually increase the dosage.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2458597]I don't know if that is true. To me the effect is that I can get hard very quickly for no reason and stay hard after sex.

I don't think you need it. There are usually 2 dosages over the counter, 50 MG and 100 MG available. It is best to not start with full dosage, many people who need it only need 25 MG. If that is not sufficient, gradually increase the dosage.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Do you normally buy it in the states or in Medellin? If in the states, do you just go to CVS to look for it? If in Medellin, what's the equivalent of CVS there?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2458561]I spoke to a good looking chica last night that told me she is at a 60 mil place in the Estadio area. Might be the same spot. I'm thinking about shooting through there this week.[/QUOTE]A chica that came over to my apartment last week, that was working at one of the many apartments nearby, told me that the girls pay 30 mil to the casa for each client.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2458505]According to what I've read a positive antibody test means you have been exposed to the virus and, assuming the result was not part of an autopsy, you survived. But it does not necessarily mean you are immune to re-infection.[/QUOTE]That is correct. Also keep in mind that the antibody tests don't test for Covid-19 specifically, just coronaviruses generally. On top of that, they regularly throw false positives and negatives (some up to 80% inaccurate) They are effectively useless.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-pulls-emergency-use-authorization-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19-n1231076[/URL]

Study after study continues to show:

1. Hydroxychloroquine is ineffective at either preventing coronavirus infection or treating COVID-19.

2. The potential side effects of using Hydroxychloroquine outweigh any known benefits.

The FDA has rescinded their emergency approval to use Hydroxychloroquine to treat or prevent COVID-19.

However, if you're convinced it's going to protect or cure you, and you can get some, take that stuff like it's candy. What could it hurt?

We (plural) will be waiting for you. So, yes.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2458521]I was chatting with a chica on SA. She said "Te esperamos!" This seems to imply that it is an agency with a group of girls. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2458614]Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Do you normally buy it in the states or in Medellin? If in the states, do you just go to CVS to look for it? If in Medellin, what's the equivalent of CVS there?[/QUOTE]In the US you need a prescription, but there are plenty of online pharmacies now who will prescribe it for you. You have to fill out a health questionnaire, which is reviewed by a doctor and they'll send you the pills. Sign up on Groupon and you can always find a big discount off the price of the pills.

In Colombia go to any pharmacy, the smaller ones are often cheaper, and ask for "Sildenlafilo. Cincuenta. Una caja de cuatro. " Sildenafil 50, a box of 4. I'll usually buy a few boxes.

You will get flushed and probably feel warm about 20 minutes after taking one. You might also feel a racing heartbeat. That should go away fairly quickly. The results vary. You should have at least a few hours of good results. You might experience muscle pain for 2-3 days after taking ED drugs. Sometimes it can be severe.

I've had good results with the 50 MG Sildenafil (Viagra) and good results with the Tadalafil (Cialis). The Tadalafil lasts up to 5 days with me, but I end up with bad pain in my legs and lower back. I also have had problems getting off with Tadalafil.

If you don't need it and aren't having any problems, I wouldn't recommend taking it.

Sup gents,

Looking to make a long trip back to paradise Sept.-Nov.

Last time my routine was casas / centro chicas in the am, and Mileroticos / la 70 chicas in the pm.

I stayed in laureles next to estacion santa lucia, and it was kind of a ***** to trek to centro in the am getting off at san antonio and walking up past parque periodista for the casas. But pretty sweet short taxi to prepago escorts at night nearby in laureles.

So my question, esp for those who are there rn like lug and blakmon (sick posts boys) , what's poppin off right now, the casas / centro chicks or more so mileroticos prepagos girls?

Because if I stay in centro near plaza bolivar for example, it would be a real pain at night to head to laureles for the escorts and vice versa if I stay in laureles for morning trips to centro.

Tysm, cheers to all.

Yep, so they earn the same or 10 K more than Plaza Botero girls per go. Of course their working conditions are about 200 times better.

FYI Plaza Botero girls are accepting 20 K without much of a fuss these days.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2458683]A chica that came over to my apartment last week, that was working at one of the many apartments nearby, told me that the girls pay 30 mil to the casa for each client.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2458726]1. Hydroxychloroquine is ineffective at either preventing coronavirus infection or treating COVID-19.[/QUOTE]How could anyone with average education really believe that having a blister of those pills is enough to be safe?

Is it really needed to suggest everyone to look at this forum for advice on P4 P and not for good health practices and therapies? Is it really needed to point out that the competency of Trump, not to mention his peer Bolsonaro, in Medicine and Virology is the same, or less, as of the average reader of ISG? Shall we also have to recommend to not inject bleach under skin to be safe from COVID?

Or does someone believe that Mr. Trump finally wil reveal the Ultimate Therapy which will save us and all Humanity?

Just in the last few days, we have read people feeling safer just because they keep those Hydroxychloroquine tablets in the pocket, maybe while partying hard in steamy clubs, not to mention those who self inject hormons (OMG! HORMONS! TESTOSTERON!) regularly, that is one of the most dangerous practices that are likely to cause severe hillness in the long term. What else?

Wrong recommendations on P4 P at worst can cause massive money wasting, but this stuff is serious. Unaware people can die or self-injure themselves.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2458572]I have security here too and am really enjoying having a portero. I am the only foreigner in my building, that's one of the reasons that I meet the girls outside at the coffee shop: I want to be a good neighbor, and not bring any negative attention to myself. I walk every girl up to the door and register her. In my mind, I'm being a safe host by having the girl meet me outside so she can know me too, but I don't think the girls here care, they are very trusting.[/QUOTE]Same same but different. I generally just tell the girl to check in with the portero and take the elevator up. I believe I am also the only gringo in my building, and I don't want to be down at the portero checking girls in and out, all the time. It sounds like the porteros don't really check cedulas or take down info. They just call me and say the girl's name. Although, that feels safe enough, for me. Between the security cameras getting the taxi / moto plates, girl's face on camera, and her having to go in / out past the portero, it's all good, until it's not, I know, I know. I'm in the hills and don't really have a logical spot to meet and walk to / from, so it is what it is, but I agree in the sense of trying to be a good neighbor and not cause a scene.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2458488]Go to a mall in Centro. Or even a sex shop. DO NOT buy stuff like this in the big, expensive malls, especially at places like Leonisa. You'll pay out the nose and the girls will not appreciate the difference. It's like with alcohol. Girls sometimes ask to bring them a bottle of something they have seen or heard of. But they couldn't tell the difference between Tito's and Popov if they tried! Jejejeje.[/QUOTE]A-fucking-men! I made the mistake of telling / showing Wifey that Tito's is way fucking better than Smirnoff. Thankfully, she's more of the, "I'll drink half a can of Smirnoff Ice and then leave it somewhere around the apartment" type. Also, Paisas don't know what Lululemon is, so no need to pay the markup. I checked, last night, after using Rappi: 18 beers for me - 41 k / 12 Smirnoff for her and the girls - 58 k. I'm not kidding, if they crack 10 of those in a night, there are 7 with more than 1/3 of the drink left. Candy wrappers everywhere. Pistachio shells hiding in every corner. I fucking can't stand it. Then, I realize why I'm banging 18 year olds and not parenting them. I'd be either gone or in prison!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2458472] VIAGRA IS SAFER THAN TUSSI [/QUOTE] ...said no Paisa ever.

Good call on how to deal with the portero. You don't want to be the star of the administradora's (IT is usually a middle age busybody woman) weekly entertainment of going through the security tapes. IT is much more discreet to jave the portero check the girls in for you. Not a big deal for short term rentals but if you live in the building you will become the scapegoat for anything bad that happens in the building.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2458775]Same same but different. I generally just tell the girl to check in with the portero and take the elevator up. I believe I am also the only gringo in my building, and I don't want to be down at the portero checking girls in and out, all the time. It sounds like the porteros don't really check cedulas or take down info. They just call me and say the girl's name. Although, that feels safe enough, for me. Between the security cameras getting the taxi / moto plates, girl's face on camera, and her having to go in / out past the portero, it's all good, until it's not, I know, I know. I'm in the hills and don't really have a logical spot to meet and walk to / from, so it is what it is, but I agree in the sense of trying to be a good neighbor and not cause a scene.

A-fucking-men! I made the mistake of telling / showing Wifey that Tito's is way fucking better than Smirnoff. Thankfully, she's more of the, "I'll drink half a can of Smirnoff Ice and then leave it somewhere around the apartment" type. Also, Paisas don't know what Lululemon is, so no need to pay the markup. I checked, last night, after using Rappi: 18 beers for me - 41 k / 12 Smirnoff for her and the girls - 58 k. I'm not kidding, if they crack 10 of those in a night, there are 7 with more than 1/3 of the drink left. Candy wrappers everywhere. Pistachio shells hiding in every corner. I fucking can't stand it. Then, I realize why I'm banging 18 year olds and not parenting them..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2458758]I stayed in laureles next to estacion santa lucia, and it was kind of a ***** to trek to centro in the am getting off at san antonio and walking up past parque periodista for the casas. But pretty sweet short taxi to prepago escorts at night nearby in laureles.

So my question, esp for those who are there rn like lug and blakmon (sick posts boys) , what's poppin off right now, the casas / centro chicks or more so mileroticos prepagos girls?

Because if I stay in centro near plaza bolivar for example, it would be a real pain at night to head to laureles for the escorts and vice versa if I stay in laureles for morning trips to centro.

Tysm, cheers to all.[/QUOTE]Hola JW55,

I have stayed for months in both El Centro and Laureles. I love both sectors and they are very different from each other, as you know. At this time, I recommend staying in Laureles. Reasons: it is much safer to be out at night, if you desire; where I spent the quarantine in El Centro was one block outside of the Rappi delivery zone; it is more quiet in Laureles. Be advised that it this time there is absolutely no dining in, in Laureles. It is 100% takeout. But everything is available by Rappi delivery. And, housing prices have dropped considerably. Laureles rents are cheap. But depending on your comfort level, you can't go wrong with either, in my opinion. El Centro for those that like it a little dirty. Laureles for those that like to go for a walk and not have to worry as much about losing a cellular phone (although, nothing remotely bad has happened to me in El Centro). Laureles is magnitudes more chill and there are casas everywhere.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2458614]Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Do you normally buy it in the states or in Medellin? If in the states, do you just go to CVS to look for it? If in Medellin, what's the equivalent of CVS there?[/QUOTE]I have never bought it in US as it is much more expensive. I have tried a brand called Eroxim in a silver color box with blue strip in Colombia. I like it because it has less side effect. There are various side effects like headache, sneezing, red eyes. Different people react to it differently. You may react differently than me so only use my description as a reference. I only see Eroxim packaging for 2 or maybe 4 tablets. You can get them in most drugstore around Medellin. You should see many different generics in the drugstore. I think you can order it from Rappi too. In Asia I can find other brands with like 10 or 20 tablets so I usually have those because it is more convenient.

My brother from another mother!

I cannot believe the waste. Especially with beer or anything else in a can or bottle. They don't care because they didn't pay for it. Really ticks me off.

And the mess they leave. Potato chip crumbs everywhere. Peeling off beer bottle labels in the jacuzzi and clogging the drain. Hair everywhere. Beer bottle tops right where I want to step (ouch). Broken glasses. And none of them every want to clean anything up. They think I'm the maid. I should be a little more of an ass about it, but when I am, they like at me like I have some strange problem.

Now those are the younger ones. I don't tend to have problems like that with girls in their later 20's or so or girls that have kids. I have one prepago I used to see who would always do my dishes before we got down to it. Those are some of the gems. Was she the hottest? No. But her body was solid, she knew how to please a man, and she knew her role as a woman (I know that sounds sexist, but I'm talking about the role of a Colombian woman.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2458775]

A-fucking-men! I made the mistake of telling / showing Wifey that Tito's is way fucking better than Smirnoff. Thankfully, she's more of the, "I'll drink half a can of Smirnoff Ice and then leave it somewhere around the apartment" type. Also, Paisas don't know what Lululemon is, so no need to pay the markup. I checked, last night, after using Rappi: 18 beers for me - 41 k / 12 Smirnoff for her and the girls - 58 k. I'm not kidding, if they crack 10 of those in a night, there are 7 with more than 1/3 of the drink left. Candy wrappers everywhere. Pistachio shells hiding in every corner. I fucking can't stand it. Then, I realize why I'm banging 18 year olds and not parenting them. I'd be either gone or in prison! [/QUOTE]

The only solution I've found to the hair issue is frequent use of a broom. Food and drink waste is something I don't tolerate. I don't allow girls in my kitchen. I serve them whatever they want but I've learned if I allow them to serve themselves there is often waste and a mess. I don't have a jacuzzi so I've never had to deal with debris in one.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2458787]My brother from another mother!

I cannot believe the waste. Especially with beer or anything else in a can or bottle. They don't care because they didn't pay for it. Really ticks me off.

And the mess they leave. Potato chip crumbs everywhere. Peeling off beer bottle labels in the jacuzzi and clogging the drain. Hair everywhere. Beer bottle tops right where I want to step (ouch). Broken glasses. And none of them every want to clean anything up. They think I'm the maid. I should be a little more of an ass about it, but when I am, they like at me like I have some strange problem..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2458787]My brother from another mother!

I cannot believe the waste. Especially with beer or anything else in a can or bottle. They don't care because they didn't pay for it. Really ticks me off.

And the mess they leave. Potato chip crumbs everywhere. Peeling off beer bottle labels in the jacuzzi and clogging the drain. Hair everywhere. Beer bottle tops right where I want to step (ouch). Broken glasses. And none of them every want to clean anything up. They think I'm the maid. I should be a little more of an ass about it, but when I am, they like at me like I have some strange problem..[/QUOTE]I hear you both, just about every paisa and even worse the Venezuelans under about 25 are simply filthy dirt bags with no sense of common sense cleanliness.

Where something drops it stays, the bathrooms become a filthy scummy mess within a few days, the shit toilet paper cans get overfilled and until they are dropping onto the floor and you think they give a shit. NO, even their tampons and bloody panty liners goes weeks laying around, I am not making this up, the dirty cloths are left where they drop be it in the middle of the floor or under the bathroom sink or wherever, their nail clippings are simply thrown behind the bed along with used napkins and empty potato chip bags, plates of half eaten food are simply shoved under the bed, I have had one with her dog shit on the bed and no problems they will sleep on it, another Colombian started her period and a bloody mess on the bed. No problem she just slept there for a few more days in it, yes both beer and other drinks like Gatorade is always half drank and left where it was last touched, they leave all kinds of droppings everywhere and they will just live in it. Don't get me started with the kitchen.

I tell my quarantine live-in 18 yo Vennie in my apartment that she has spent too long living in puta hotels and she is about the worst of the bunch.

This being said their bodies are always spotlessly clean, their pussies are fresh as recently cut roses, their make up is perfect, their teeth are white and as bright as the noon day sun.

In fairness I have met only a handful (and only paisas) out of literally a 100 whom I have had in my apartment who help tidy up, these are keepers.

Take a look at this photo which sums it all up.

The Tall Man.

So after weeks and weeks of searching seems like all flights to Colombia for July are cancelled. While I have been happy for all the fellas on here having a blast there, part of me is slowing dying wishing I could go in July LOL. Being that July is the only month when I can take a vacation before starting a new job, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions of places for P4P other than Colombia? Thailand and Japan might be too far from me but if anyone has experience somewhere else I would love to hear. Any help is appreciated I'm slowly withering away here in the Northeast. Thanks fellas.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2458777]Good call on how to deal with the portero. You don't want to be the star of the administradora's (IT is usually a middle age busybody woman) weekly entertainment of going through the security tapes. IT is much more discreet to jave the portero check the girls in for you. Not a big deal for short term rentals but if you live in the building you will become the scapegoat for anything bad that happens in the building.[/QUOTE]This is my dilemma, I'm planning a six months stay in Medellin, all the places I like always have a door man. If I bring in 10 different girls a week, I will be marked by the fourth week. The places that doesn't have a door man don't have the decor and facilities I like for a six months stay.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2458787]My brother from another mother!

I cannot believe the waste. Especially with beer or anything else in a can or bottle. They don't care because they didn't pay for it. Really ticks me off.

And the mess they leave. Potato chip crumbs everywhere. Peeling off beer bottle labels in the jacuzzi and clogging the drain. Hair everywhere. Beer bottle tops right where I want to step (ouch). Broken glasses. And none of them every want to clean anything up. They think I'm the maid. I should be a little more of an ass about it, but when I am, they like at me like I have some strange problem..[/QUOTE]I normally hire professionals to clean after a few days of partying. Yeah, the beer bottle thing is annoying. I typically find 5 to 6 unfinished bottles and a ton of unfinished whiskey shots. When I was in China or Istanbul, there were shitty bars where average looking girls will trick me to open an untold amount of beer bottles and run my bill up to more than a grand. I'm totally satisfied with a few 18-year-old paisas wasting some of my booze but offers divine foursomes.

[QUOTE=ConscienceDoc;2458816]So after weeks and weeks of searching seems like all flights to Colombia for July are cancelled. While I have been happy for all the fellas on here having a blast there, part of me is slowing dying wishing I could go in July LOL. Being that July is the only month when I can take a vacation before starting a new job, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions of places for P4P other than Colombia? Thailand and Japan might be too far from me but if anyone has experience somewhere else I would love to hear. Any help is appreciated I'm slowly withering away here in the Northeast. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Well since you have brought this subject up, you might want to consider Tijuana, Mexico. It might not suit your mongering style, but there is an active street scene in Cauhilla and although technically the Country is closed to non-essential travel, a dental appointment will work to enter if asked as nobody is really getting hassled entering.

There's a very active ISG board for Tijuana, and albeit you can't really compare Tijuana to Medellin, it sounds like what you might be looking for and you could fly into San Diego and go there.

I'm very fortunate, I can leave my home and be there in less than three hours, and am going down on Wednesday. I have a nympho lined up to stay for me as long as I want and will be staying in a nice Hotel which I don't plan on leaving much as there's going to be a lot of Leche depletion activities occurring.

I'm thankful I have this option available to me being so close, along with a former history and ties there, but I would rather be back in Medellin.

Supposedly Costa Rica is re-opening on July 1. I say supposedly as they were supposed to re-open on June 15 and pushed it back at the last minute.

I hear that DR is open or soon to re-open. Check USA Department of State web pages.

Beyond that, you are pretty much screwed for Central and South American at this time (just like me).

[QUOTE=ConscienceDoc;2458816]So after weeks and weeks of searching seems like all flights to Colombia for July are cancelled. While I have been happy for all the fellas on here having a blast there, part of me is slowing dying wishing I could go in July LOL. Being that July is the only month when I can take a vacation before starting a new job, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions of places for P4P other than Colombia? Thailand and Japan might be too far from me but if anyone has experience somewhere else I would love to hear. Any help is appreciated I'm slowly withering away here in the Northeast. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2458805]The only solution I've found to the hair issue is frequent use of a broom. Food and drink waste is something I don't tolerate. I don't allow girls in my kitchen. I serve them whatever they want but I've learned if I allow them to serve themselves there is often waste and a mess. I don't have a jacuzzi so I've never had to deal with debris in one.[/QUOTE]I can't believe the story's I'm reading about what slobs some of these girls are. I, like you, won't allow, let alone tolerate a Chica being a slob in my apartment, however the problem I have has to do with their hair which can get everywhere, and can and be an issue when a jealous type Chica comes over, and see's some strands of hair from other Chicas.

The remedy is a strong Dyson vacuum which I brought down from the USA.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2458819]This is my dilemma, I'm planning a six months stay in Medellin, all the places I like always have a door man. If I bring in 10 different girls a week, I will be marked by the fourth week. The places that doesn't have a door man don't have the decor and facilities I like for a six months stay.[/QUOTE]All due respect, but the doormen which are called Porteros will have you marked no later than the third day you are there. The Portero's literally know who's fucking who (almost) in the buildings they work in.

I understand your dilemma, and your best bet is to find a "gringo" friendly place as there are rules for all buildings that the owners and their tenants must follow.

Most Colombians, believe it or not, are very religious and conservative, and although it may not seem that way to mongers, you might encounter other tenants and / or Porteros that could make things miserable for you.

And yes, you want a place with a Portero as it gives you an added layer of protection and where ever you land up, my advice to you is to befriend the Porteros, bring them some snacks or other goodies, it will go a long way for you.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2458770]Yep, so they earn the same or 10 K more than Plaza Botero girls per go. Of course their working conditions are about 200 times better.

FYI Plaza Botero girls are accepting 20 K without much of a fuss these days.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you been partaking in those 20 K girls which only a very few on this board would do.

[QUOTE=ConscienceDoc;2458816]Being that July is the only month when I can take a vacation before starting a new job, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions of places for P4P other than Colombia? Thailand and Japan might be too far from me but if anyone has experience somewhere else I would love to hear.[/QUOTE]Everybody keeps coming on here talking about their big dreams. My suggestion is to just wait until you hear a big story on the news saying the covid is over and borders have opened up around the world. Do not look at when you have vacation. Do not look at when you can buy a ticket or book a hotel. All you are doing is disappointing yourselves. Here in Thailand there have been no new cases in the last 21 days, so they sure as shit are not about to let someone in from a country that had 8,000 new cases just yesterday. Hell, in Philippines they still are not allowed to travel from one district to another. International travel is 99% closed for leisure purposes. This is a time to get to know your own country better if you happen to be stuck there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2458756]In the US you need a prescription, but there are plenty of online pharmacies now who will prescribe it for you. You have to fill out a health questionnaire, which is reviewed by a doctor and they'll send you the pills. Sign up on Groupon and you can always find a big discount off the price of the pills.

In Colombia go to any pharmacy, the smaller ones are often cheaper, and ask for "Sildenlafilo. Cincuenta. Una caja de cuatro. " Sildenafil 50, a box of 4. I'll usually buy a few boxes.

You will get flushed and probably feel warm about 20 minutes after taking one. You might also feel a racing heartbeat. That should go away fairly quickly. The results vary. You should have at least a few hours of good results. You might experience muscle pain for 2-3 days after taking ED drugs. Sometimes it can be severe.

I've had good results with the 50 MG Sildenafil (Viagra) and good results with the Tadalafil (Cialis). The Tadalafil lasts up to 5 days with me, but I end up with bad pain in my legs and lower back. I also have had problems getting off with Tadalafil.

If you don't need it and aren't having any problems, I wouldn't recommend taking it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, this is very helpful. The side effects sound terrible. I guess it is too greedy to want to fuck more after cum 5 times in a night. I will take your advice, and wait for a few more years.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458830]the problem I have has to do with their hair which can get everywhere, and can and be an issue when a jealous type Chica comes over, and see's some strands of hair from other Chicas.

The remedy is a strong Dyson vacuum which I brought down from the USA.[/QUOTE]This better be a free chick that you are talking about being jealous. Otherwise you make the new chick clean up the hair from the chick before her. I wish a chick that I was paying would even fix her face with a hint of jealousy.

Easy for me to say but I agree with you. I've read allanner of fantasy scenarios the past 3 months.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2458836]Everybody keeps coming on here talking about their big dreams. My suggestion is to just wait until you hear a big story on the news saying the covid is over and borders have opened up around the world. Do not look at when you have vacation. Do not look at when you can buy a ticket or book a hotel. All you are doing is disappointing yourselves. Here in Thailand there have been no new cases in the last 21 days, so they sure as shit are not about to let someone in from a country that had 8,000 new cases just yesterday. Hell, in Philippines they still are not allowed to travel from one district to another. International travel is 99% closed for leisure purposes. This is a time to get to know your own country better if you happen to be stuck there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ConscienceDoc;2458816]So after weeks and weeks of searching seems like all flights to Colombia for July are cancelled. While I have been happy for all the fellas on here having a blast there, part of me is slowing dying wishing I could go in July LOL. Being that July is the only month when I can take a vacation before starting a new job, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions of places for P4P other than Colombia? Thailand and Japan might be too far from me but if anyone has experience somewhere else I would love to hear. Any help is appreciated I'm slowly withering away here in the Northeast. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Just save your money.

My hope is in September testing is available to the point that if you have a negative test with in 72 hours of arrival, you will be fine to enter. Who knows a lot can happen in 2. 5 months.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458830]I can't believe the story's I'm reading about what slobs some of these girls are. I, like you, won't allow, let alone tolerate a Chica being a slob in my apartment, however the problem I have has to do with their hair which can get everywhere, and can and be an issue when a jealous type Chica comes over, and see's some strands of hair from other Chicas.

The remedy is a strong Dyson vacuum which I brought down from the USA.[/QUOTE]Pack a vacuum cleaner for this purpose huh? Well there's your top definition of "simping" right there. Case closed. LOLOL.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2458864]My hope is in September testing is available to the point that if you have a negative test with in 72 hours of arrival, you will be fine to enter. Who knows a lot can happen in 2. 5 months.[/QUOTE]Dream on. We all are.

There already are such tests... I have heard that places like Hong Kong are using that as people return. But not tourists, these are residents. You get tested on arrival, wait either at the airport or an overnight secure hotel for results. Then, if your result is negative (no Covid) you get to go into a secure quarantine for several days, then get re-tested, and after those results you can get out.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458834]All due respect, but the doormen which are called Porteros will have you marked no later than the third day you are there. The Portero's literally know who's fucking who (almost) in the buildings they work in.

I understand your dilemma, and your best bet is to find a "gringo" friendly place as there are rules for all buildings that the owners and their tenants must follow.

Most Colombians, believe it or not, are very religious and conservative, and although it may not seem that way to mongers, you might encounter other tenants and / or Porteros that could make things miserable for you.

And yes, you want a place with a Portero as it gives you an added layer of protection and where ever you land up, my advice to you is to befriend the Porteros, bring them some snacks or other goodies, it will go a long way for you.[/QUOTE]There are about 3-4 porteros in each building for all the shifts. The first time I see them, I tip them 10-20 mil. After that they are very helpful and generally over look my perceived moral transgressions. Even the female porteros. They seem to go out of their way to be helpful and protective of me. For my 2 week trip, I think the 50 to 80 mil is worth every peso. They will also take care of your deliveries etc. As an additional bonus LOL. Also, if a lot of girls are visiting you, don't hang out in public areas of the building for too long with the girls and also, if you are seen with the girls, don't act all squirlly, just act nonchalant and normal.

[QUOTE=ConscienceDoc;2458816]So after weeks and weeks of searching seems like all flights to Colombia for July are cancelled. While I have been happy for all the fellas on here having a blast there, part of me is slowing dying wishing I could go in July LOL. Being that July is the only month when I can take a vacation before starting a new job, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions of places for P4P other than Colombia? Thailand and Japan might be too far from me but if anyone has experience somewhere else I would love to hear. Any help is appreciated I'm slowly withering away here in the Northeast. Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Tijuana is your best bet. Gringos are getting laid over there. Recently they opened my favorite Tijuana club, Hong Kong, and some others but before I could buy my ticket to San Diego, they were closed. You will definitely be able to get laid there in July, perhaps not in the clubs, but there would be tons of street walkers and escorts at affordable prices.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2458944]There already are such tests... I have heard that places like Hong Kong are using that as people return. But not tourists, these are residents.[/QUOTE]There is a point that is generally missed, when people talks about testing: the number of tests.

Such test do exist, even rapid, and in few hours they can (more or less reliably) say if in the sample there is COVID virus or not (swab test, PCR, etc.). The problem is how many tests are available and how they can be produced industrially.

Imagine you have unlimited test capacity: then you test all population of your country every 2 weeks, isolate the positive persons, iterate. In 1 or 2 months you have completely solved the problem. Then do it on all 7 billions people on Earth. Pandemic is over.

For all Europe or USA, that means 24M test / day. Currently they do something like 500k per day!
In Singapore, now they have reopened the airport to Singaporeans and long-time pass holders, but they have to pay 200+2000 SGD for testing and 14 days quaranting in a government location. No hint of opening to short time time visitors and tourists still for a long time. Why? Because Singapore Changi was used to handle 60-70 millions passengers per year. 200k tests per day at the airport just for tourists?? And the quarantine? No way.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2458958]There is a point that is generally missed, when people talks about testing: the number of tests.

Such test do exist, even rapid, and in few hours they can (more or less reliably) say if in the sample there is COVID virus or not (swab test, PCR, etc.). The problem is how many tests are available and how they can be produced industrially.

Imagine you have unlimited test capacity: then you test all population of your country every 2 weeks, isolate the positive persons, iterate. In 1 or 2 months you have completely solved the problem. Then do it on all 7 billions people on Earth. Pandemic is over.

For all Europe or USA, that means 24M test / day. Currently they do something like 500k per day!
In Singapore, now they have reopened the airport to Singaporeans and long-time pass holders, but they have to pay 200+2000 SGD for testing and 14 days quaranting in a government location. No hint of opening to short time time visitors and tourists still for a long time. Why? Because Singapore Changi was used to handle 60-70 millions passengers per year. 200k tests per day at the airport just for tourists?? And the quarantine? No way.[/QUOTE]It really depends on the Country and their urgency for tourists. Iceland is a perfect example, you show up, they test you, and if your negative your free to go. A few other Countries are following suit, with Greece having a test upon arrival and a mandated stay in a hotel for one night. It will be interesting to see how this works out in these Countries in the next few months as having a two week quarantine period regardless of testing is a tourism no go. Hopefully a testing on arrival without a quarantine period is on the horizon for entry into Colombia in the near future, only time will tell.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2458775]A-fucking-men! I made the mistake of telling / showing Wifey that Tito's is way fucking better than Smirnoff. Thankfully, she's more of the, "I'll drink half a can of Smirnoff Ice and then leave it somewhere around the apartment" type. Also, Paisas don't know what Lululemon is, so no need to pay the markup. I checked, last night, after using Rappi: 18 beers for me - 41 k / 12 Smirnoff for her and the girls - 58 k. I'm not kidding, if they crack 10 of those in a night, there are 7 with more than 1/3 of the drink left. Candy wrappers everywhere. Pistachio shells hiding in every corner. I fucking can't stand it. Then, I realize why I'm banging 18 year olds and not parenting them. I'd be either gone or in prison!.[/QUOTE]Glad to see some really honest post about how lazy and unsanitary many of these chicas are who live here in Medellin. Out of respect for the anyone's place of living, don't allow them a free pass on their age, if you're nasty and unsanitary, you're just nasty and unsanitary. This is something that each individual monger has to decide If he can put up with, because I know I can't.

I have a similar situation going on in my place right now which involves under developed social skills. I have a chica who is living with me and my girlfriend. She is the girlfriend of the son of my girlfriend. This girl is absolutely beautiful, plain and simple a 9. 8 on the 10 scale, especially in looks and body. Put there is something about watching her have sex with my girlfriend's son for free and trying to get clients around the city to pay or dates. I am absolutely blown away by the fact that my girlfriend's son is totally dependent on the mother and gets free sex from a dime?

This behavior has shown me the pure disregard that many of these girls have for gringos. I have learned so much Colombian / Venezuelan culture and behavior since I arrived in March. I am very selective about who I allow to date me and who I now allow to even come close to me. The dime that is living with me and sexing my girlfriend's son, always has on skimpy clothes and tries to get my attention and boy is she a site to see, but I cannot get pass the fact that she has sex daily for free right before my eyes and therefore I would never pay her for a date. She has lost all value to me and the fact that I know that she has given sex to a kid for free, I will never pay her, period.

My girlfriend keeps her in check and does not allow her to get too far out of hand, makes her stay far away from me and truly there Is no need to keep her away from me, she Is worthless at this point to me even as beautiful as she may be. So not only in America but especially here in Medellin, women and being accepted trumps security and stability, I have seen it with my own two eyes. Pollo Negro is out!

I saw the note about Viagra, just bought una cajita de 6 for 8 mil. Works Great!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2458985]Glad to see some really honest post about how lazy and unsanitary many of these chicas are who live here in Medellin. Out of respect for the anyone's place of living, don't allow them a free pass on their age, if you're nasty and unsanitary, you're just nasty and unsanitary. This is something that each individual monger has to decide If he can put up with, because I know I can't.

I have a similar situation going on in my place right now which involves under developed social skills. I have a chica who is living with me and my girlfriend. She is the girlfriend of the son of my girlfriend. This girl is absolutely beautiful, plain and simple a 9. 8 on the 10 scale, especially in looks and body. Put there is something about watching her have sex with my girlfriend's son for free and trying to get clients around the city to pay or dates. I am absolutely blown away by the fact that my girlfriend's son is totally dependent on the mother and gets free sex from a dime?

This behavior has shown me the pure disregard that many of these girls have for gringos. I have learned so much Colombian / Venezuelan culture and behavior since I arrived in March. I am very selective about who I allow to date me and who I now allow to even come close to me. The dime that is living with me and sexing my girlfriend's son, always has on skimpy clothes and tries to get my attention and boy is she a site to see, but I cannot get pass the fact that she has sex daily for free right before my eyes and therefore I would never pay her for a date. She has lost all value to me and the fact that I know that she has given sex to a kid for free, I will never pay her, period.

My girlfriend keeps her in check and does not allow her to get too far out of hand, makes her stay far away from me and truly there Is no need to keep her away from me, she Is worthless at this point to me even as beautiful as she may be. So not only in America but especially here in Medellin, women and being accepted trumps security and stability, I have seen it with my own two eyes. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Because she has sex w a young dude for free, you don't want her and she's worthless?

I'm guessing you tried to get her for free as well, and she wanted cash.

So what?

They're mostly all doing that.

Big deal.

They all fall in love with a dipshit at one time or another.

It's normal.

If she's truly a dime.

Relax, give her a few pesos and enjoy.

Or don't, and just be pissed off, LOL.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2458953]There are about 3-4 porteros in each building for all the shifts. The first time I see them, I tip them 10-20 mil. After that they are very helpful and generally over look my perceived moral transgressions. Even the female porteros. They seem to go out of their way to be helpful and protective of me. For my 2 week trip, I think the 50 to 80 mil is worth every peso. They will also take care of your deliveries etc. As an additional bonus LOL. Also, if a lot of girls are visiting you, don't hang out in public areas of the building for too long with the girls and also, if you are seen with the girls, don't act all squirlly, just act nonchalant and normal.[/QUOTE]Thank you all for the advice. I tip the door-mans well when I stayed in Medellin for 3-4 weeks, it worked out great; but I can feel that I'm being marked by other residents, who are highly established professionals working in poblado. The door-mans try to distance themselves from me in the presence of other tenants, and it's awkward to check-in / out three or four 18-year-olds a day. If I do a six months stay in a penthouse where the girls have to go through every floor to get to me, there will be troubles after a month or two. This sounds like a first world problem, but it is a problem nonetheless. I probably will spend my first 3 weeks in a temporary Airbnb, and decide on a permanent place after carefully visiting and evaluating each candidates.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458976]It really depends on the Country and their urgency for tourists. Iceland is a perfect example, you show up, they test you, and if your negative your free to go. A few other Countries are following suit, with Greece having a test upon arrival and a mandated stay in a hotel for one night. It will be interesting to see how this works out in these Countries in the next few months as having a two week quarantine period regardless of testing is a tourism no go. Hopefully a testing on arrival without a quarantine period is on the horizon for entry into Colombia in the near future, only time will tell.[/QUOTE]Of course we're all guessing.

Here's the latest on Spain.

I'm hoping to go in early July to see friends.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2459004]Because she has sex w a young dude for free, you don't want her and she's worthless?

I'm guessing you tried to get her for free as well, and she wanted cash.

So what?

They're mostly all doing that.

Big deal.

They all fall in love with a dipshit at one time or another.

It's normal.

If she's truly a dime.

Relax, give her a few pesos and enjoy.

Or don't, and just be pissed off, LOL.[/QUOTE]Never seen her in the park, but I see her daily now, behavior is a big deal with me, she's a dime, but not my dime, & a handful from what I've seen. My girl asked her to leave today, because of some household issues and now the house is all quiet and peaceful again. Pollo negro is out!

That is spot on. I had a long talk with the favorita who was bringing these girls to my place. At first it was fun, because I have lots of naked ass and tits in my jacuzzi. And they were fun girls. But the mess got old. I told my favorita that it was disrespectful and that they would not get away with this at their casa. Their mamas would not permit it. So I basically banned my favorita from inviting anyone. And eventually, I stopped inviting the favorita over.

Now I have another favorita. Just 18. I allowed her to bring over three friends once. The enjoyed the jacuzzi. They were respectful. They did not leave a mess (we eat pizza). But I am not surprised, because this favorita is respectful also. Depends on the chica and who they pass their time with.

Bottom line, I prefer to see chicas one-on-oone. Exception would be coming home from a bar or disco at night with a favorita and a drunk friend to bang.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2458985]Glad to see some really honest post about how lazy and unsanitary many of these chicas are who live here in Medellin. Out of respect for the anyone's place of living, don't allow them a free pass on their age, if you're nasty and unsanitary, you're just nasty and unsanitary. This is something that each individual monger has to decide If he can put up with, because I know I can't.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2459037] I told my favorita that it was disrespectful and that they would not get away with this at their casa. Their mamas would not permit it. So I basically banned my favorita from inviting anyone. And eventually, I stopped inviting the favorita over.[/QUOTE]Replying to Balboa.

I only allowed her to come over to keep my girlfriend's son from going bonkers without seeing her. Let me just Say this so that as mean we can all be on the same page, you will never bang the passenger in my car for free when it's my car then turn around and tell me I have to pay for sex and give you a ride home. The guy you just banged for free better get you a ride home and if he's a good friend its a pretty good chance we are going to leave you where you are. I have never been the jealous type, not ever, because as the board says, Money is the worlds greatest aphrodisiac! I still have a minimum of 3 months here and I am wise enough to make sure I don't get myself in a situation that I cannot get myself out of. There's much more to the freebies for my girlfriend's son, but when I see you giving the honeycomb away for free, I quickly remove myself from the equation if I am not the one benefiting from the freebie. I never tried to date her and even now if I offered her some cash, she would get naked at the drop of a dime.

She is the kind of girl who has something to prove and I am at an age that I have nothing to prove. She stayed here at my place for 3 days. I now know that she was starving because my refrigerator was damn near bare right before she left and I just went and spent $450,000 pesos on groceries Sunday. After being her for 3 days and allowing my girlfriend's son to bang her for free, she called my girlfriend to the side and asked her could she loan her $60,000 pesos to pay the rent at her room because she had not worked for the past 3 days and the hotel would not allow her in her room until she paid. My girlfriend laughed and replied you knew my son had no money and no job and you stayed here and chose to not work, neither me or Pollo will give you a penny, you will have to pay your rent the best way you know how. When I tell you this girl is beautiful and banging, she is as hot as J-lo in her hay day, but the clock upstairs clearly does not keep time. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2458976]It really depends on the Country and their urgency for tourists.[/QUOTE]But there is an ocean between what you wish and what you can achieve. The problem is not only cost, but also the [I]capacity[/I] to test. There is a maximum number of tests you can do in a country, which depends not only on how much the government has invested in equipment, reactants, and personnel, but also on how many of such it was capable to purchase and secure.

Industry is working at maximum pace to produce as much as they can, still they can fulfill only a limited amount of the demand. See this (I am not working with Abbott, but they were cited before and are one of the top suppliers): [URL]https://www.abbott.com/corpnewsroom/product-and-innovation/an-update-on-abbotts-work-on-COVID-19-testing.html[/URL].
[I]In total[/I], so far they have shipped some [I]millions[/I] of tests in USA, and they are not selling outside USA because they give priority to their home government.
How could a country, especially if poor and focused on tourism, decide to allocate 50k-100k tests / day just for tourists intead of the local population?

Singapore is one of the best organized and richest countries in the world. Still they can afford no more than few thousands tests for inbound travellers, and no way the consider to open to short-time visitors still for a long time:
[URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/travellers-entering-spore-from-june-18-will-be-tested-before-end-of-their-stay-home-notice[/URL]
Before COVID, the number of passengers in Changi was 200k / day. If 50% is inbound, just to test them they would need 100k tests / day (and then you also need a place for quarantine).

I am very sorry to say this, but we must recognize that for the moment there is no light visible at the end of the tunnel. Wait and hope that the virus disappears, spontaneously, helped by social distancing, or by a vaccine found effective enough.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2459000]I saw the note about Viagra, just bought una cajita de 6 for 8 mil. Works Great![/QUOTE]Last time I went to Colombia, i.e. last February, I bought some 15-20 boxes 4 x50mg from Genfar, that is one of the best local brands for generic drugs. The price was just a bit higher than yours, 6000-8000 for a box of 4, but sopposedly one of the best brands. I intended to bring to my home country (where prescription is needed, price is high...) a supply for a whole year of travels worldwide. Then COVID showed up in my country right after I flew back home. The expiration dates are in 2021 <gosh!> I am watching the boxes aging month after month.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2459050]Last time I went to Colombia, i.e. last February, I bought some 15-20 boxes 4 x50mg from Genfar, that is one of the best local brands for generic drugs. The price was just a bit higher than yours, 6000-8000 for a box of 4, but sopposedly one of the best brands. I intended to bring to my home country (where prescription is needed, price is high...) a supply for a whole year of travels worldwide. Then COVID showed up in my country right after I flew back home. The expiration dates are in 2021 <gosh!> I am watching the boxes aging month after month.[/QUOTE]This afternoon I was just down in my nearest parque principal to pay some bills at Gana and right across the street is a pharmacy, I paid 7. 900 pesos for 4 x 50 MG (brand is Genfar), which is roughly 2 mil for one 50 MG pill or a bit over. 50 cents per pill.

I have tried all the other brands and this Genfar gives me the least amount of headache, stomach ache and other after effects. Recommend this brand.

The Tall Man.

It's not that complicated. Stick to legal visitors, review the building rules before booking to ensure you can live with them, tell the portero to check with you before sending any visitors up, limit the number of times you accompany visitors in common areas (hallways, the building entrance, elevators) because most are monitored by video recording and by building resident who will be watching you. From time to time of course you will want to accompany visitors and that's ok. The problems will happen when you are noticed doing it several time a day every day.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2459006]Thank you all for the advice. I tip the door-mans well when I stayed in Medellin for 3-4 weeks, it worked out great; but I can feel that I'm being marked by other residents, who are highly established professionals working in poblado. The door-mans try to distance themselves from me in the presence of other tenants, and it's awkward to check-in / out three or four 18-year-olds a day. If I do a six months stay in a penthouse where the girls have to go through every floor to get to me, there will be troubles after a month or two. This sounds like a first world problem, but it is a problem nonetheless. I probably will spend my first 3 weeks in a temporary Airbnb, and decide on a permanent place after carefully visiting and evaluating each candidates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2459046]Replying to Balboa.

I only allowed her to come over to keep my girlfriend's son from going bonkers without seeing her. Let me just Say this so that as mean we can all be on the same page, you will never bang the passenger in my car for free when it's my car then turn around and tell me I have to pay for sex and give you a ride home. The guy you just banged for free better get you a ride home and if he's a good friend its a pretty good chance we are going to leave you where you are. I have never been the jealous type, not ever, because as the board says, Money is the worlds greatest aphrodisiac! I still have a minimum of 3 months here and I am wise enough to make sure I don't get myself in a situation that I cannot get myself out of. There's much more to the freebies for my girlfriend's son, but when I see you giving the honeycomb away for free, I quickly remove myself from the equation if I am not the one benefiting from the freebie. I never tried to date her and even now if I offered her some cash, she would get naked at the drop of a dime.

She is the kind of girl who has something to prove and I am at an age that I have nothing to prove. She stayed here at my place for 3 days. I now know that she was starving because my refrigerator was damn near bare right before she left and I just went and spent $450,000 pesos on groceries Sunday. After being her for 3 days and allowing my girlfriend's son to bang her for free, she called my girlfriend to the side and asked her could she loan her $60,000 pesos to pay the rent at her room because she had not worked for the past 3 days and the hotel would not allow her in her room until she paid. My girlfriend laughed and replied you knew my son had no money and no job and you stayed here and chose to not work, neither me or Pollo will give you a penny, you will have to pay your rent the best way you know how. When I tell you this girl is beautiful and banging, she is as hot as J-lo in her hay day, but the clock upstairs clearly does not keep time. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Great story Pollo!

Send her my way, I'll give her the 60 k and have some fun w her, and I could care less if she's bangin the pipsqweek guy for nada, LOL.

Glad you're enjoying yourself and keeping them straight!

Balboa out!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459063]It's not that complicated. Stick to legal visitors, review the building rules before booking to ensure you can live with them, tell the portero to check with you before sending any visitors up, limit the number of times you accompany visitors in common areas (hallways, the building entrance, elevators) because most are monitored by video recording and by building resident who will be watching you. From time to time of course you will want to accompany visitors and that's ok. The problems will happen when you are noticed doing it several time a day every day.[/QUOTE]Dammit. My problem just arrived. 90 minutes ago (7:45 pm) the portero called me and told me that I can't have any visitors. I went down to talk to him (better than on the phone) and he said it's the order of the building administrator, and that I need to talk to the owner of my unit. I'm very surprised by this news. I don't make excessive noise and we've never been drunk or caused a disturbance and I've only had one visitor per day, except yesterday, when I had two, and they were both repeats.

I've always walked my guests in and out of the building; I know that Knowledge advises otherwise; I figured that I was insuring that nothing undesirable would happen, which absolutely has not.

I have a feeling that I'll be looking for a new apartment soon. The good news is that there is an abundance of availability right now. What sucks is that I really like this place. I'll bet the owners will be bummed too.

I'll post an update in the morning after I talk to my landlord.

Do anyone know the name of Pable Escarbar Mansion in Medellin? The one where all the girls are at and the rooms upstairs.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2458819]This is my dilemma, I'm planning a six months stay in Medellin, all the places I like always have a door man. If I bring in 10 different girls a week, I will be marked by the fourth week. The places that doesn't have a door man don't have the decor and facilities I like for a six months stay.[/QUOTE]I had great porteros at Astorga Lofts. No rooftop jacuzzi penthouses, but nice units, good location, and very flexible, despite what they want you to think. I always like to chat it up with the porteros and bring them drinks or snacks from the grocery store. On that one in a hundred chance some broad is screaming at 3 a on a Tuesday morning, they'll try to quickly diffuse the situation and have your back. I've had porteros joke with me the next day about a girl or even deliver a stone cold lie to a chica who was asking about how many chicks I'd had over. He got a bottle of Zacapa for being a real one.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2458985]Glad to see some really honest post about how lazy and unsanitary many of these chicas are who live here in Medellin. Out of respect for the anyone's place of living, don't allow them a free pass on their age, if you're nasty and unsanitary, you're just nasty and unsanitary. This is something that each individual monger has to decide If he can put up with, because I know I can't![/QUOTE]There is no way these girls eat and drink the same way at home. They act like they're going into hibernation, soon. Wifey eats all fucking day long, and drinks juice, non-stop. She'll be fat with 2 kids when she's 23. I get so frustrated because when it comes to a head, I don't have the ability to tee-off on her, in Spanish. I speak well enough to have a good conversation with just about anyone, but in a drop of a hat emotional moment, I stand no chance to get my point across. Oh, and PN, still waiting for the son-in-law's girlfriend's number.

Wifey took off around 8 p tonight to head home. Her brother was nearby and she wanted to split a cab. I'm getting closer and closer to cutting ties. She's so unaffectionate, and I too often I feel like I'm picking up after her, cooking for her, etc. We have fun and she's great to party with, as well as she'll bring over good looking friends for trios, but it's just draining, sometimes. So, I had Pinky come by for a jacuzzis sesh and a pop. I'm going to buy her a phone, tomorrow. I didn't pay her, tonight, and won't for the next few visits. I love fucking her. She cut her hair and took all the dye out. She had on a little tight black dress, hoop earrings, and looked hot. I told her she has to give me her current phone, and she agreed. I have talked to two chicas this week that had their phone and purses stolen by guys on motorcycles. So, I'm thinking I'll put my Colombian SIM in her phone to use for when I'm out and about. I can't even imagine having my phone stolen or broken. Pinky's been getting a little more brave with some of her comments and questions. It's fun to watch. Especially, when at the end of the night, I don't give her any money. She could be making a killing, if she had any clue of how to play the game.

I've got an early-March repeat on the hook for this week, some time. Cute petite girl that has been locked down for the quarantine. I'm also still trying to reel in the second twin. Wifey and I have a super sexy dancer chick coming over on Friday. She asked for photos, and both the girls gave a quick yes, upon viewing pics. She asked for 300 k + taxis, after I told her I pay 200 k + taxis. I said 300 k total, TLN, no rules, show up with a bikini, a smile, and positive energy. She agreed.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2459060] I paid 7. 900 pesos for 4 x 50 MG (brand is Genfar)[/QUOTE]You can't go wrong with Genfar or MK, which are among best reputable farma brands of Colombia. This holds for any kind of drug. Production standards are very high and controlled by Colombian strict law.

The price can vary even significantly from a chain of pharmacies to another. When I plan to buy my one or two dozens boxes to refill my yearly supply, I check several ones.

Genfar has a quality that no other brand offers: the box 4x50mg includes a SINGLE blister with 4 pills. This is invaluable, as I can pack 12 of those blisters (appropriately trimmed with scissors to reduce size) in one single box of Maalox and save a lot of space. Other brands like to pack 1 pill in a big blister, like to give more importance and significance to their product. Very inconvenient when you want to stock a dozen of 4x sets of pills.

Pasteur is usually the chain of pharmacies with best prices. The guy at Pasteur of Parque El Poblado is solid: has often made a search among other shops to put together the amount I wish to buy and arranged delivery to my hotel the day after.

Everyone is talking about chicas leaving a mess, drinking half a bottle and opening up another one and generally being slobs. That's every party ever thrown, every guest.

Surely someone here has at least been to a party. If there's a keg, figure on 10 cups per guest. You'll find empty cups stuffed everywhere, including floating in the toilet. Partially full to full cups will be on every available surface. Drinks will be spilled, cigarette butts will be everywhere and you're guaranteed to find at least one burn mark. And then there's the guy who can't manage to get all his puke in the toilet.

If there's a jacuzzi. Condoms, or lots of floating white blobs, panties or worst, when someone pukes in it and leaves it running. It's like the world's largest kettle of stew. I've cleaned 3 of those.

People come to party. If you throw the party, you're going to have to deal with the cleanup.

I generally have girls come over to fuck. There's rarely any mess. If they want something to drink I get it for them. I'm not opening another until they finish the first one. I'm not letting them get their own drinks or get me a drink. If I control the drinks, I control the opportunity to drug and rob me. And there's no way I'm setting out pistachios or peanuts in the shell.

When you create a party atmosphere with the girls, you're going to get party behavior. You're going to be left with a party mess.

Had a wild casa experience yesterday. Went to a casa in LOS Colores area. Didn't know what to expect but someone told me about it and said it was pretty good. When I rolled up, there were already 2 dudes knocking on the door. Not sure if they were there for the same thing as me. Little smokin hot chica answers the door and looks at the 2 Colombians and me and ask if I am so and so and lets only me in.

When I get in, I sit on the couch and they do a little presentation. About 7 chicas and all were fine. I picked a smoking morena that looked like she was from Cali with a tiny waste and stupid phat ass and nice full breasts. We go into the room and I lay on the bed and she puts some reggaeton on the TV from Youtube and begins to dance and shake her ass.

She takes my clothes off and gives me a crazy blow job and licks my balls. I was in heaven for sure. I must have been too relaxed because about 10 minutes later she asked me why I wasn't touching her body. I take off the skimpy lingerie she had on and start feeling up that voluptuous body while she is trying to deep throat me. I'm almost at the point of busting so I tell her to chill and lay her down so I can suck and lick away. She was fingering herself while I was sucking her tits like they were the last tits on earth. Her body and skin seemed flawless. I was thinking how could a chica this fine be selling pussy.

She puts the condom on and we go to work. Begin missionary and again I feel like I'm ready to bust so we switch up cause I want to see myself smashing that ass in the mirror. I was balls deep from behind I busted a crazy wadd.

She cleans me up and since we still had time on the clock (I requested an hour for 90 mil), she begins to suck on those places she could tell I like. I get rock hard again and she gets on top. I can tell she wants me to sit up so I can suck her tits while she rides on top. She grabs my head and literally smashes it into one of her big tits. Her tit was consuming my whole entire mouth (she was all natural). Tits were so big it was pressed against my nose as well. She has the back of my head aggressively pressed against her with her big tit in my mouth. I literally couldn't breath as my nose was covered in her tit as well and I'm thinking. This ***** is trying to George Floyd my ass.

I take control of the situation and roll her into missionary position again and start pounding. I keep noticing her looking up at me face to see the expressions I'm making. I guess the pussy must have been so good I was probably rolling my eyes to the back of my head. The 2nd nut can sometimes be a challenge but I was feeling that thickness she had all over my balls and all and I busted numero 2.

Afterwards, we are laying on the bed both breathing hard and listening to the music. I ask her about herself. Basic questions about if she has a man, kids, how long has she been in the game, etc. She is asking me questions as well. We exchange numbers and dance a little. I am over an hour so I get dressed and pay. When I'm leaving she wants to kiss me with those big juicy full lips that come from the motherland. I'm looking at her caramel complexion and she is looking so fine, I let her kiss my lips as I walk out the door.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2459175]You can't go wrong with Genfar or MK, which are among best reputable farma brands of Colombia. This holds for any kind of drug. Production standards are very high and controlled by Colombian strict law.

The price can vary even significantly from a chain of pharmacies to another. When I plan to buy my one or two dozens boxes to refill my yearly supply, I check several ones.

Genfar has a quality that no other brand offers: the box 4x50mg includes a SINGLE blister with 4 pills. This is invaluable, as I can pack 12 of those blisters (appropriately trimmed with scissors to reduce size) in one single box of Maalox and save a lot of space. Other brands like to pack 1 pill in a big blister, like to give more importance and significance to their product. Very inconvenient when you want to stock a dozen of 4x sets of pills.

Pasteur is usually the chain of pharmacies with best prices. The guy at Pasteur of Parque El Poblado is solid: has often made a search among other shops to put together the amount I wish to buy and arranged delivery to my hotel the day after.[/QUOTE]BP, yep I agree, good stuff. Question. I always take my pills out of the blister package and store them in a pill bottle all together, is it better to keep them in the blister package until ready to use them? Do the lose effectiveness when out of the blister package?

Thanks in advance.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459230]Had a wild casa experience yesterday. Went to a casa in LOS Colores area. Didn't know what to expect but someone told me about it and said it was pretty good. When I rolled up, there were already 2 dudes knocking on the door. Not sure if they were there for the same thing as me. Little smokin hot chica answers the door and looks at the 2 Colombians and me and ask if I am so and so and lets only me in.

When I get in, I sit on the couch and they do a little presentation. About 7 chicas and all were fine. I picked a smoking morena that looked like she was from Cali with a tiny waste and stupid phat ass and nice full breasts. We go into the room and I lay on the bed and she puts some reggaeton on the TV from Youtube and begins to dance and shake her ass.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a really good casa. You got any more info on the name or address? Seems like I'll have to start going to casas now that I'm having problems with the administration here in my building.

That's the Luna Lunera apartment. They moved there from the carrera 81 building for more space at lower rent. They told me the pay 1. 8 million / month and it includes a couple of parking spaces in the garage. I would be interested in the neighborhood if it wasn't on the other side of hellish rush hour traffic. Of course, the girls live there so they don't get involved in commuting. There are lots of well kept spacious small apartment buildings and private homes in the barrio. Good move harvesting the girls' phone numbers. The management is just waiting to hike their prices back up to the old Luna Lunera rates as soon as the tourists are back. I might swing by there later this week.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459230]Had a wild casa experience yesterday. Went to a casa in LOS Colores area. Didn't know what to expect but someone told me about it and said it was pretty good. When I rolled up, there were already 2 dudes knocking on the door. Not sure if they were there for the same thing as me. Little smokin hot chica answers the door and looks at the 2 Colombians and me and ask if I am so and so and lets only me in.

When I get in, I sit on the couch and they do a little presentation. About 7 chicas and all were fine. I picked a smoking morena that looked like she was from Cali with a tiny waste and stupid phat ass and nice full breasts. We go into the room and I lay on the bed and she puts some reggaeton on the TV from Youtube and begins to dance and shake her ass.

She takes my clothes off and gives me a crazy blow job and licks my balls. I was in heaven for sure. I must have been too relaxed because about 10 minutes later she asked me why I wasn't touching her body. I take off the skimpy lingerie she had on and start feeling up that voluptuous body while she is trying to deep throat me. I'm almost at the point of busting so I tell her to chill and lay her down so I can suck and lick away. She was fingering herself while I was sucking her tits like they were the last tits on earth. Her body and skin seemed flawless. I was thinking how could a chica this fine be selling pussy.

She puts the condom on and we go to work. Begin missionary and again I feel like I'm ready to bust so we switch up cause I want to see myself smashing that ass in the mirror. I was balls deep from behind I busted a crazy wadd..[/QUOTE]

I used to use viagra, but have changed to cialis generic, more expensive but no headache and lasts a few days. Just my opinion and yes the price variation is huge. I agree that Genfar is good, I think it is in a red / white box.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2459175]You can't go wrong with Genfar or MK, which are among best reputable farma brands of Colombia. This holds for any kind of drug. Production standards are very high and controlled by Colombian strict law.

The price can vary even significantly from a chain of pharmacies to another. When I plan to buy my one or two dozens boxes to refill my yearly supply, I check several ones.

Genfar has a quality that no other brand offers: the box 4x50mg includes a SINGLE blister with 4 pills. This is invaluable, as I can pack 12 of those blisters (appropriately trimmed with scissors to reduce size) in one single box of Maalox and save a lot of space. Other brands like to pack 1 pill in a big blister, like to give more importance and significance to their product. Very inconvenient when you want to stock a dozen of 4x sets of pills.

Pasteur is usually the chain of pharmacies with best prices. The guy at Pasteur of Parque El Poblado is solid: has often made a search among other shops to put together the amount I wish to buy and arranged delivery to my hotel the day after.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459230]Had a wild casa experience yesterday. Went to a casa in LOS Colores area. Didn't know what to expect but someone told me about it and said it was pretty good. When I rolled up, there were already 2 dudes knocking on the door. Not sure if they were there for the same thing as me. Little smokin hot chica answers the door and looks at the 2 Colombians and me and ask if I am so and so and lets only me in.

When I get in, I sit on the couch and they do a little presentation. About 7 chicas and all were fine. I picked a smoking morena that looked like she was from Cali with a tiny waste and stupid phat ass and nice full breasts. We go into the room and I lay on the bed and she puts some reggaeton on the TV from Youtube and begins to dance and shake her ass.

She takes my clothes off and gives me a crazy blow job and licks my balls. I was in heaven for sure. I must have been too relaxed because about 10 minutes later she asked me why I wasn't touching her body. I take off the skimpy lingerie she had on and start feeling up that voluptuous body while she is trying to deep throat me. I'm almost at the point of busting so I tell her to chill and lay her down so I can suck and lick away. She was fingering herself while I was sucking her tits like they were the last tits on earth. Her body and skin seemed flawless. I was thinking how could a chica this fine be selling pussy.

She puts the condom on and we go to work. Begin missionary and again I feel like I'm ready to bust so we switch up cause I want to see myself smashing that ass in the mirror. I was balls deep from behind I busted a crazy wadd.

She cleans me up and since we still had time on the clock (I requested an hour for 90 mil), she begins to suck on those places she could tell I like. I get rock hard again and she gets on top. I can tell she wants me to sit up so I can suck her tits while she rides on top. She grabs my head and literally smashes it into one of her big tits. Her tit was consuming my whole entire mouth (she was all natural). Tits were so big it was pressed against my nose as well. She has the back of my head aggressively pressed against her with her big tit in my mouth. I literally couldn't breath as my nose was covered in her tit as well and I'm thinking. This ***** is trying to George Floyd my ass.

I take control of the situation and roll her into missionary position again and start pounding. I keep noticing her looking up at me face to see the expressions I'm making. I guess the pussy must have been so good I was probably rolling my eyes to the back of my head. The 2nd nut can sometimes be a challenge but I was feeling that thickness she had all over my balls and all and I busted numero 2.

Afterwards, we are laying on the bed both breathing hard and listening to the music. I ask her about herself. Basic questions about if she has a man, kids, how long has she been in the game, etc. She is asking me questions as well. We exchange numbers and dance a little. I am over an hour so I get dressed and pay. When I'm leaving she wants to kiss me with those big juicy full lips that come from the motherland. I'm looking at her caramel complexion and she is looking so fine, I let her kiss my lips as I walk out the door.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2459165]
I had Pinky come by for a jacuzzis sesh and a pop. I'm going to buy her a phone, tomorrow. I didn't pay her, tonight, and won't for the next few visits. [/QUOTE]PN has new phone available for good price with invoice. I think you should check with him if you are going to buy new.

A couple of things that may help you (besides what I mentioned about not being seen entering and leaving with girls) - have the owner deal with the administrator after you explain you need the right to have visitors and you are willing to have your visitors present identification as a condition of entry. If that doesn't eliminate the problem you should move right away.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459078]Dammit. My problem just arrived. 90 minutes ago (7:45 pm) the portero called me and told me that I can't have any visitors. I went down to talk to him (better than on the phone) and he said it's the order of the building administrator, and that I need to talk to the owner of my unit. I'm very surprised by this news. I don't make excessive noise and we've never been drunk or caused a disturbance and I've only had one visitor per day, except yesterday, when I had two, and they were both repeats.

I've always walked my guests in and out of the building; I know that Knowledge advises otherwise; I figured that I was insuring that nothing undesirable would happen, which absolutely has not.

I have a feeling that I'll be looking for a new apartment soon. The good news is that there is an abundance of availability right now. What sucks is that I really like this place. I'll bet the owners will be bummed too.

I'll post an update in the morning after I talk to my landlord.[/QUOTE]

As I wrote in another post, I think it's likely the adminstradora got tired of seeing you on the security videos coming and going with girls or someone complained to the administradora. IF that is a practice you want to continue you should look into one of the well known prepago / monger clubhouses like Energy Living or someplace similar.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459078]Dammit. My problem just arrived. 90 minutes ago (7:45 pm) the portero called me and told me that I can't have any visitors. I went down to talk to him (better than on the phone) and he said it's the order of the building administrator, and that I need to talk to the owner of my unit. I'm very surprised by this news. I don't make excessive noise and we've never been drunk or caused a disturbance and I've only had one visitor per day, except yesterday, when I had two, and they were both repeats.

I've always walked my guests in and out of the building; I know that Knowledge advises otherwise; I figured that I was insuring that nothing undesirable would happen, which absolutely has not.

I have a feeling that I'll be looking for a new apartment soon. The good news is that there is an abundance of availability right now. What sucks is that I really like this place. I'll bet the owners will be bummed too.

I'll post an update in the morning after I talk to my landlord.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2459233]Question. I always take my pills out of the blister package and store them in a pill bottle all together, is it better to keep them in the blister package until ready to use them? Do the lose effectiveness when out of the blister package?[/QUOTE]Never do that! To say the least, they will be exposed to humidity. The blister is sealed.
Do they lose effectiveness? I do not know how affected by being unsealed they could be, but just the doubt would have a negative placebo effect on me.

This is my SOP:
1) trimmer the borders of the Genfar 4x blisters with scissors, so that 2 can be placed side-to-side in a Maalox box.
2) press the 4 bubbles at the four corners of each blisters, which are intended to keep more space and avoid pills are pressed (in this way, 6+6=12 4x blisters can be placed in one dense Maalox box);.
3) I write with black pencil on the plastic blister the expiration date (it's nearly impossible to read the original relief).

Now I have a box densely filled with 48 pills in their original sealed blisters. Enough for a weekend! (grin)

I was with her. She is definitely a good provider. I am pretty sure her tits are slightly enhanced but IT was not a big deal for me.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459230]Had a wild casa experience yesterday. Went to a casa in LOS Colores area. Didn't know what to expect but someone told me about it and said it was pretty good. When I rolled up, there were already 2 dudes knocking on the door. Not sure if they were there for the same thing as me. Little smokin hot chica answers the door and looks at the 2 Colombians and me and ask if I am so and so and lets only me in.

When I get in, I sit on the couch and they do a little presentation. About 7 chicas and all were fine. I picked a smoking morena that looked like she was from Cali with a tiny waste and stupid phat ass and nice full breasts. We go into the room and I lay on the bed and she puts some reggaeton on the TV from Youtube and begins to dance and shake her ass.

She takes my clothes off and gives me a crazy blow job and licks my balls. I was in heaven for sure. I must have been too relaxed because about 10 minutes later she asked me why I wasn't touching her body. I take off the skimpy lingerie she had on and start feeling up that voluptuous body while she is trying to deep throat me. I'm almost at the point of busting so I tell her to chill and lay her down so I can suck and lick away. She was fingering herself while I was sucking her tits like they were the last tits on earth. Her body and skin seemed flawless. I was thinking how could a chica this fine be selling pussy..[/QUOTE]

Be good to know

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459298]I was with her. She is definitely a good provider. I am pretty sure her tits are slightly enhanced but IT was not a big deal for me.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Nounce;2459278]PN has new phone available for good price with invoice. I think you should check with him if you are going to buy new.[/QUOTE]IVA holiday is Friday.

[QUOTE=Gone023;2459101]Do anyone know the name of Pable Escarbar Mansion in Medellin? The one where all the girls are at and the rooms upstairs.[/QUOTE]It's called loutron.

A few days back I spoke up how messy most of the chicas are, which is true, but all things considered my 18 yo Vennie GF am me have managed and dare I say that we have a friendship beyond the sex.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459282]As I wrote in another post, I think it's likely the adminstradora got tired of seeing you on the security videos coming and going with girls or someone complained to the administradora. IF that is a practice you want to continue you should look into one of the well known prepago / monger clubhouses like Energy Living or someplace similar.[/QUOTE]I highly doubt the administradora was monitoring this poster via the videos, and suspect it was another tenant as you surmised, or even one of the Porteros who complained, which was than perhaps confirmed by the administrator in the videos.

Most Colombians are very conservative, and frown upon gringos with prepagos in tow. For mongers in buildings with Porteros, besides treating them well, you need to be cognizant of the other tenants. When you have a women twenty to forty years younger with you, wearing a see thru outfit, the other tenants will know exactly what's up, and the gossip will start.

Your advice to find a "gringo" friendly building is well advised, along with befriending the Portero's and the administrator as well. They can make you, or break you, and if you piss one of them off, it can be a problem for you. Gringos need to realize they are considered "foreigners", and will be eyed with suspect, and will be treated as such until they earn the respect of the Colombians within their surroundings.

I DM'd you. Everybody interested can also add Luna Lunera on whatsapp to keep up the staffing.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459317]Be good to know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459280]A couple of things that may help you (besides what I mentioned about not being seen entering and leaving with girls) - have the owner deal with the administrator after you explain you need the right to have visitors and you are willing to have your visitors present identification as a condition of entry. If that doesn't eliminate the problem you should move right away.[/QUOTE]I can just imagine the dialogue, I'm going to be bringing in lot's of hookers, aka "visitors". Your advice is appropriate, yet the building rules may preclude this activity (prostitution) in writing, of which the building administrator may not be able to circumvent if somebody complains.

Your advice for mongers to find a Prepago friendly building, or perhaps a building without full time Portero's, might be a better alternative.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459282]As I wrote in another post, I think it's likely the adminstradora got tired of seeing you on the security videos coming and going with girls or someone complained to the administradora. IF that is a practice you want to continue you should look into one of the well known prepago / monger clubhouses like Energy Living or someplace similar.[/QUOTE]I walked out this morning to pick up a cappuccino and the day shift portero also repeated the news to me, that I've been banned from having visitors. I expressed my dismay and asked him if I've caused any problems, and he said no.

I sent a message to the unit owner who initially had my back. He asked me if I've had parties, which I have not, and if I've made excessive noise, which I have not. I think he came straight to the building and met with the administrator (I have no idea who that is), who pulled the portero logs. I've had eight unique visitors in 15 days; four of them repeats, two or three times. I have had one visitor per day, except one day, when I had two.

But the fuck up was walking in and out with them. For two reasons, I was walking my guests in and out: because it is gentleman-like (in my eyes), and I was insuring that my guests were never unattended in the building. The administrator saw me entering with a girl, daily, and did not take a liking to that. And I had established this routine before Knowledge issued the memo advising against it.

According to the unit owner, initially the administrator wanted to ban me from having any guests. But I had already told the owner, no guests = no tenant. And I'm probably the owner's only income at this time, since he's a tour guide. Then, the administrator wanted to ban my guests from using the elevator. But I live on the 17th floor. Then, they agreed that I can have a list of three approved guests, and that they can take the elevator up to my apartment, but I can not meet them on the ground floor. This to me is an odd cultural difference, but whatever.

I told the owner that having one friend over per day is not excessive, but he's under the gun now too. I agreed to the three guest rule, because it's mid-month and I can look for another place while the dust settles. But I hate that I'm now under the radar.

There are three porteros that work here: two of them alternate 12-hour shifts. And there is a relief portero, who covers when one of the main guys is off. The relief portero is younger and chill and hasn't registered any of my guests. This afternoon when I headed out for a walk, the portero, who I had perceived to be the more strict among them, whispered to me that I could still have guests, but that I have to wait in my apartment for them. OK, cool. That leaves the other guy, and he's the one that likes to ask me about my little Perfect 10 that comes over. So as of now, what I think I'm going to do, is put them both on the payroll, and see if that works. I'll slip them each the occasional 50 k note and let them know when a girl is coming over.

In the meantime, I have to appointments to look at new apartments, while I decide what to do.

And, I've got two 18 year-olds on the hook. One of them seems like a real girl-next-door, and she posts videos to her WhatsApp stories of her playing soccer. I'm super intrigued by her. The other, tells me that she loves sex and has always wanted to be with an "older" guy and that she loves to please. I've laid out the usual proposal to each of them, and they are both eager to meet me.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2458944]Dream on. We all are.

There already are such tests... I have heard that places like Hong Kong are using that as people return. But not tourists, these are residents. You get tested on arrival, wait either at the airport or an overnight secure hotel for results. Then, if your result is negative (no Covid) you get to go into a secure quarantine for several days, then get re-tested, and after those results you can get out.[/QUOTE]Think about it this way. 2. 5 months ago was April 1st. Which was literally 2 weeks after shit hit the fan. A lot can happen between now and September 1.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2459048]But there is an ocean between what you wish and what you can achieve. The problem is not only cost, but also the [I]capacity[/I] to test. There is a maximum number of tests you can do in a country, which depends not only on how much the government has invested in equipment, reactants, and personnel, but also on how many of such it was capable to purchase and secure.

Industry is working at maximum pace to produce as much as they can, still they can fulfill only a limited amount of the demand. See this (I am not working with Abbott, but they were cited before and are one of the top suppliers): [URL]https://www.abbott.com/corpnewsroom/product-and-innovation/an-update-on-abbotts-work-on-COVID-19-testing.html[/URL].
[I]In total[/I], so far they have shipped some [I]millions[/I] of tests in USA, and they are not selling outside USA because they give priority to their home government.
How could a country, especially if poor and focused on tourism, decide to allocate 50k-100k tests / day just for tourists intead of the local population?

Singapore is one of the best organized and richest countries in the world. Still they can afford no more than few thousands tests for inbound travellers, and no way the consider to open to short-time visitors still for a long time:
[URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/travellers-entering-spore-from-june-18-will-be-tested-before-end-of-their-stay-home-notice[/URL]
Before COVID, the number of passengers in Changi was 200k / day. If 50% is inbound, just to test them they would need 100k tests / day (and then you also need a place for quarantine).

I am very sorry to say this, but we must recognize that for the moment there is no light visible at the end of the tunnel. Wait and hope that the virus disappears, spontaneously, helped by social distancing, or by a vaccine found effective enough.[/QUOTE]It would need to be paid by the passenger and done in their home country 24 to 48 hours before departing. Then some sort of official passing document would allow entry. All I can say is a lot can happen in 10 weeks.

Over the last few days I have been doubling up. Casa and tinder, casa and the 8. Casa 81 a 42-46.6 ft white Colombian performance was better than her looks but she wasn't bad. Casa la 70 performance was on par with her looks not a stunner but good. Tinder girl came by for her headphones she left but said she was horny. She's a nymphomaniac for sure. Arrives starts play with her pussy on the couch. Allows me to video. She is a guarantee 2 nuts automatically. She never ask for money or taxi. I give her a new years pretty dress. Cost me $7 and 15 mil taxi. She's happy. Yesterday morning I call a young lady from Facebook to give her business before I go. I did a solo with her and also a nice 3 some. She always showed honesty, sincerity, and really into girls and seems like a nymph as well. Anyways it's been a good while since we linked. She's about 5' 9 attractive negron. Nice curves. She tells me she's available but has a friend and sends me 3 pictures. Says girl is 19 and she did a 3 some with her before. The girl 1st was incredible. I trust this girl so I go with the arrangement. 3 HR, 120 mil each total and 2 leche. Oral no condom. I am a little nervous cause 1 pic look like she has slight tummy. They arrive about 45 minutes late but I am happy. My negra is still sexy and attractive. The 19 year old looks every bit 19 with no tummy, no fat anywhere. Nice body. Outfit was not the best but maybe she's a newbie that's all she can afford. We get in the elevator and give each other warm hug. All is good. Get inside apartment and my music gets the 19 year old attention. She seem surprised I am up to date. I get some beer, popcorn and we salud. They bring their own weed and we smoke. I can't wait to get home and give up weed smoking LOL. I ask them to dance on my table and they are okay with it but do not allow me to take video since they strip down. They dance with each other and its fucking nice laying on my couch watching 2 girls dance with each other. They ask me to come up and I strip and get up there so now I am in the middle. The 19 year old seem anxious and grabs my dick right away and negra is kissing on me passionately. Then I switch to 19 year old and she kisses me passionately. 2 great passionate kissers. What's the odds. We continue for a little bit longer then realize the danger of 3 on a table dancing near to the edge. We get down and i Iay on my couch. Negra comes for more passionate kisses and 19 year begins sucking. The energy is extremely high. The chemistry was off the charts. Both these girls pisces and LEO was identical in many ways how they kiss and touch and suck. They never took a break. We all had hands on each other the entire time. I decide I wanted the 19 year old to lick negra and so I watched. Then I had negra lick the 19 year old. It seem like I could fuck negra raw but she then ask for condom. I fucked the 19 year old first. She was truly a star and it was tempting to give her lots of attention, but negra was right up there with her performance wise. 19 year old pussy is tight and wet. I am hitting it from the back and negra kissing on me touch on me. Perfect world. We go upstairs and I want to fuck negra. Switch condoms and now fucking negra. Negra comes at the drop of a dime. You can say boo and she comes. 19 year old is touching on her playing with negra nice tits and I sense her really enjoying playing with her titties. So I pull out and leave the them two to play with each other. They start fucking each other. Scissors or whatever they call it. First time seeing it done in person. They make each other come. Oh shit. Will continue the story later. Sleep time.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2459409]It would need to be paid by the passenger and done in their home country 24 to 48 hours before departing. Then some sort of official passing document would allow entry. All I can say is a lot can happen in 10 weeks.[/QUOTE]It works both ways. A lot can happen in 10 weeks, but current indications don't give much hope that what happens will be good, at least not for people coming from the US.

I'll be waiting to make plans after an actual entry policy is in place.

Cheapest generic sildenafil (Viagra) I've found is at Drogas Calidad, Calle 54 # 47-29, near Parque Bolivar. Brand I buy is AG. Little box or packet of two 50 MG tablets is 800 pesos. Chewable version is 1,300 pesos. Store offers free delivery to all of Medellin, usually about 3 hours. If going in person, early morning has shortest wait.

As we approach 3 fricken months of the quarantine and what should have been a maximum 3 week stay for my 18 yo live-in vennie we have, dare I say, become so comfortable with each other that it is nice to have another person to hang around with despite her being so damn messy in the apartment.

I will say this again that you never really know a person until you live with them 24 and 7 for 3 months. The best way I can describe it is like that TV show Naked & Afraid where 2 complete strangers are put together in a deserted place and they must survive for 21 days. We watch TV shows, laugh, listen to music, eat together and sometimes separately, just hang out and about once a week when our pico why cedula is the same take a drive in the local area.

Like the vast majority of the same age she is on her cellphone at least 10 hours a day, seriously and with some days 15 hours non-stop.

She will take over my iPhone 11 Pro and take, I kid you not, hundreds of photos in all kinds of style and various outfits, many times I need to me the photographer. Not a bad way to pass the afternoon. She is completely comfortable with her body, no problem walking naked around the apartment after showering or top less when the weather was very warm.

So yes she is sloppy but all in all we have become so comfortable and easy with each other that I won't mind another month of quarantine if it is extended.

Now I save the best for last. In the past week I invited 2 of my special paisa chicas over to my place for the day (not together but 2 different chicas on 2 different days) and we all get along well, we order food, watch TV and listen to music and I then take my paisa to my room for a few hours.

Here is a photo of my vennie, I have literally close to a thousand of these types of photos of her in many different outfits and with some the both of us.

So in fairness, despite the fact that she is messy, she has not one of those disgraceful tattoos on her beautiful white skin, never uses drugs of any kind, drinks socially only, does not smoke and best of all has a good attitude and laughs a lot.

She is completely non-pro and not looking for any guy as I take care of her needs, hehehehe so don't ask for her contact information. Like I said before she could be a teen clothing model for Abercrombie & Fitch.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2459409]It would need to be paid by the passenger and done in their home country 24 to 48 hours before departing. Then some sort of official passing document would allow entry. All I can say is a lot can happen in 10 weeks.[/QUOTE]As far as the next ten weeks, during this time it will be known better whether the Countries allowing travelers in without being quarantined with only a negative test result has panned out, or there have been instances where it hasn't. Iceland and Greece along with other Countries allowing this will be an indicator in the coming months if they have had issues where somebody tested negative upon arrival but were subsequently positive. Unfortunately it's an un-known evolving story, and a dire one for sure.

Airlines have been selling tickets for return to Colombia since the beginning of the month for flights beginning on September 1 as everyone knows. Yet the bio-safety requirements have yet to be announced by the Colombian Government. No way to speculate what they might be, let alone International travel being postponed or limited, because ten weeks from now the "landscape" will be very different as evidenced as how things have happened across the world. Just three months ago could anyone ever of imagined where things are at in the USA. It's mind blowing to say the least.

I've been following this forum for a while now and find it very entertaining.

I just wondered if anyone could tell me the easiest way to get some weed? In the past we have got a taxi up to somewhere. Guayabal I think. Very cheap, but it's too much of a hassle.

How does everybody else get hold of it?

I'm in Laureles.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Mike6911;2459535]I've been following this forum for a while now and find it very entertaining.

I just wondered if anyone could tell me the easiest way to get some weed? In the past we have got a taxi up to somewhere. Guayabal I think. Very cheap, but it's too much of a hassle.

How does everybody else get hold of it?

I'm in Laureles.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Just ask the next girl you have over to bring it and tell her you will pay her like 20 k for her to do it. Thats like 6 bucks. I pay that in uber eats sub charges in this god forsaken prison of my 8 to 5 hell with no chance of a decent vacation.

The possibilities are endless. Speculating about them is as good a way to kill time as any other. If the latest government decrees and street activity are any indication (restaurants open for table service, salas de masaje and apartments up and running, street scene more active than pre-virus, public transportation packed to the gills, and inter-city transportation set for July 1 resumption) the September date looks promising.

The good news is there are other options unless anyone absolutely must come here. I feel we are lucky here to have two or so flights to Florida every week since late March. They are pretty darned expensive but it takes a lot of pressure out of the equation.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2459483]It works both ways. A lot can happen in 10 weeks, but current indications don't give much hope that what happens will be good, at least not for people coming from the US.

I'll be waiting to make plans after an actual entry policy is in place.[/QUOTE]

My other bit of advice was to review the building rules before you confirm a booking. Anyone who follows that advice will know their options. I regret that I did not pipe in sooner about how to avoid becoming the star of the building's security videos.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2459376]I can just imagine the dialogue, I'm going to be bringing in lot's of hookers, aka "visitors". Your advice is appropriate, yet the building rules may preclude this activity (prostitution) in writing, of which the building administrator may not be able to circumvent if somebody complains.

Your advice for mongers to find a Prepago friendly building, or perhaps a building without full time Portero's, might be a better alternative.[/QUOTE]

I am sorry my predictions about how this played out were correct. If you are interested, my advice at this point is to move to a new building as soon as you can. I'm a little concerned you mentioned some of your visitors were "repeats". That makes no difference to the building administration. When you are in your new building, follow the rest of the advice and I doubt you will have problems. I wish I had piped in sooner.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459400]I walked out this morning to pick up a cappuccino and the day shift portero also repeated the news to me, that I've been banned from having visitors. I expressed my dismay and asked him if I've caused any problems, and he said no.

I sent a message to the unit owner who initially had my back. He asked me if I've had parties, which I have not, and if I've made excessive noise, which I have not. I think he came straight to the building and met with the administrator (I have no idea who that is), who pulled the portero logs. I've had eight unique visitors in 15 days; four of them repeats, two or three times. I have had one visitor per day, except one day, when I had two.
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You covered an important point I neglected to mention, or maybe I just made the mistake to assume it goes without saying. It is very problematic if girls come to your building in skimpy or provocative clothing. The terms most will understand are "vestimiento adecuado" or "prendas decentes".

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2459371]I highly doubt the administradora was monitoring this poster via the videos, and suspect it was another tenant as you surmised, or even one of the Porteros who complained, which was than perhaps confirmed by the administrator in the videos.

Most Colombians are very conservative, and frown upon gringos with prepagos in tow. For mongers in buildings with Porteros, besides treating them well, you need to be cognizant of the other tenants. When you have a women twenty to forty years younger with you, wearing a see thru outfit, the other tenants will know exactly what's up, and the gossip will start.

Your advice to find a "gringo" friendly building is well advised, along with befriending the Portero's and the administrator as well. They can make you, or break you, and if you piss one of them off, it can be a problem for you. Gringos need to realize they are considered "foreigners", and will be eyed with suspect, and will be treated as such until they earn the respect of the Colombians within their surroundings.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459555]You covered an important point I neglected to mention, or maybe I just made the mistake to assume it goes without saying. It is very problematic if girls come to your building in skimpy or provocative clothing. The terms most will understand are "vestimiento adecuado" or "prendas decentes".[/QUOTE]So true, I had a Chica once that came over to my apartment who literally wore short shorts, a see thru top, and was totally dolled up, and it garnered a lot of unwanted attention by the Portero and other residents.

Your Spanish is much better than mine, and after that incident, I tell the Chicas, you must wear jeans, and not a revealing top, and / or wear a jacket.

Your advice is well taken which others should take unless they are staying in a known gringo hooker building.

[QUOTE=Mike6911;2459535]I've been following this forum for a while now and find it very entertaining.

I just wondered if anyone could tell me the easiest way to get some weed? In the past we have got a taxi up to somewhere. Guayabal I think. Very cheap, but it's too much of a hassle.

How does everybody else get hold of it?

I'm in Laureles.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Ask the next chica coming over like the other guy said, or ask one of your regular chicas to give you a contact that can bring it over. Rolled cigarettes run about 2 mil a piece, and blunts about 5 mil a piece. Depending on the amount you are ordering, they may ask for an additional 10 to 20 mil for delivery. This was before the quarantine, not sure if the situation is different now.

[QUOTE=Mike6911;2459535]I've been following this forum for a while now and find it very entertaining.

I just wondered if anyone could tell me the easiest way to get some weed? In the past we have got a taxi up to somewhere. Guayabal I think. Very cheap, but it's too much of a hassle.

How does everybody else get hold of it?

I'm in Laureles.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Easy to do. Go to El Centro, look for Chicas smoking weed, and ask them if they have any they would like to sell. Three months ago the going price was 2,000 Pesos a joint according to one of my amigas, so you might offer them 5,000 Pesos a joint.

Another option is to go to Parque Periodista in the evening if it's open, I don't know. This is basically a "stoner's park" and vendors sell all kinds of goodies there.

As far as where to buy weed in Laureles, the only place I remember once was an ice cream shop that had edible ice cream. It was almost double the price per scoop, I didn't try it, and can't remember where it was, but maybe you could locate it and get a pint to go!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2459569]So true, I had a Chica once that came over to my apartment who literally wore short shorts, a see thru top, and was totally dolled up, and it garnered a lot of unwanted attention by the Portero and other residents.

Your Spanish is much better than mine, and after that incident, I tell the Chicas, you must wear jeans, and not a revealing top, and / or wear a jacket.

Your advice is well taken which others should take unless they are staying in a known gringo hooker building.[/QUOTE]All make sense. Gringo brothel building like energy is fun for 3-4 weeks stay, but it is not suitable for a 6 months stay. You will be judged by all your local friends if they find out what goes on in there. I'm looking for a place that is slightly more upscale then energy, where I own the entire top floor and have a private entrance, I want very little neighbors and no doorman. I know two places that fit this bill but they are not as upscale as energy. I will keep looking, I have 2.5 months to search.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2459278]PN has new phone available for good price with invoice. I think you should check with him if you are going to buy new.[/QUOTE]PN PM me, if this is true. She has a Hauwei whatever. But, she doesn't really care what it is. I'm planning to go buy it tomorrow, with the no-VAT shit going on.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459400]

I sent a message to the unit owner who initially had my back. He asked me if I've had parties, which I have not, and if I've made excessive noise, which I have not. I think he came straight to the building and met with the administrator (I have no idea who that is), who pulled the portero logs. I've had eight unique visitors in 15 days; four of them repeats, two or three times. I have had one visitor per day, except one day, when I had two.

So as of now, what I think I'm going to do, is put them both on the payroll, and see if that works. I'll slip them each the occasional 50 k note and let them know when a girl is coming over.[/QUOTE]Tough situation. I probably would have leaned towards leaving, if I was wanting to have the turnstile squeaking all day and night. If it was like my current situation, I wouldn't mind. Did you have to provide a list of the 3 approved visitors? I think greasing the porteros will help, and just friendly chit chat with them could go a long way. I'm not terribly surprised, because you become associated with the behavior / guests. Whereas, I am, "The gringo in apartment _ that rarely is seen or heard. If a girl gets in the elevator at the ground floor, they could be going anywhere. It could be assumed it's to the gringo. Some one could watch the elevator go to my floor, but their are 4 apartments on that floor. I try to stay off the radar, and be overly friendly when I bump into a resident. Sounds like you'll manage, but that's a shitty situation to have to think about and deal with.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459463]They start fucking each other. Scissors or whatever they call it. First time seeing it done in person. They make each other come. Oh shit. [/QUOTE]Nice report. Remember when you said you'd give me the contact info of The 8, but you didn't? Well, with the late penalty, you now owe the negrita + 19. Gracias!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459554]I am sorry my predictions about how this played out were correct. If you are interested, my advice at this point is to move to a new building as soon as you can. I'm a little concerned you mentioned some of your visitors were "repeats". That makes no difference to the building administration. When you are in your new building, follow the rest of the advice and I doubt you will have problems. I wish I had piped in sooner.[/QUOTE]ALWAYS. The landlord / host doesn't need to be your moral compass. Make an AirBnB profile without your photo, if that makes you comfortable. Ask the difficult questions before spending your hard-earned money. It's a business. They are competing for your dollar. If they don't provide everything to allow you to have an enjoyable experience, move on. Good advice, Knowledge. How ironic.

Rainy day type of day. I bought the IPTV / Firestick setup, but fuck it was dogshit, yesterday. Always pausing and loading. Tigo sent a guy today for a couple hours. DL speed went from 7 mbps to 27 mbps, by the time he finished. Hopefully, that means it will stay above 15 mbps in the evenings, when everyone and their dog seems to be using the internet.

SJobs. You should look into my place. I think their champing at the bit to jack the prices back up, but maybe we could make for a seamless transition between tenants. I thought I shared the kitchen wall, but I don't even think that is the case. I think the stairs are in between. Elevators are 1 & 6 feet away from the door. 2 story with a terrace overlooking the mountains. Jacuzzi is tucked into the corner, and half the buildings that could view it are offices, and none of the close buildings can see. Building entry / porteria goes into the parking garage, then to the elevators. So, very private. Not sure what you like to do during the day or evening, if you go out. It's walkable to / from Lleras, but that might get old, especially if it is raining, or you are drunk, or with a girl. Feel free to PM me and I'll send you a link.

Everyone else, go fuck yourselves (or someone else)!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2459608]
SJobs. You should look into my place. I think their champing at the bit to jack the prices back up, but maybe we could make for a seamless transition between tenants. Feel free to PM me and I'll send you a link.
[/QUOTE]Hey Slap, your inbox is full. Can't message you.

I'm also planning to stay a couple months when things open back up. SJobs is for sure going Day 1, but I'll probably wait a little longer to see how things shake out. I'd like to see your place if you are open to sharing the link. I would stay there on a monthly arrangement also.

Just something that showed up on my phone for all the perverted members here!

And I have no idea where to get this!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2459612]Hey Slap, your inbox is full. Can't message you.

I'm also planning to stay a couple months when things open back up. SJobs is for sure going Day 1, but I'll probably wait a little longer to see how things shake out. I'd like to see your place if you are open to sharing the link. I would stay there on a monthly arrangement also.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up! 113 messages. I guess there's not much storage space. Just deleted a couple pages, feel free to try again.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2459608]Tough situation. I probably would have leaned towards leaving, if I was wanting to have the turnstile squeaking all day and night. If it was like my current situation, I wouldn't mind. Did you have to provide a list of the 3 approved visitors? I think greasing the porteros will help, and just friendly chit chat with them could go a long way. I'm not terribly surprised, because you become associated with the behavior / guests. Whereas, I am, "The gringo in apartment _ that rarely is seen or heard. If a girl gets in the elevator at the ground floor, they could be going anywhere. It could be assumed it's to the gringo. Some one could watch the elevator go to my floor, but their are 4 apartments on that floor. I try to stay off the radar, and be overly friendly when I bump into a resident. Sounds like you'll manage, but that's a shitty situation to have to think about and deal with.

ALWAYS. The landlord / host doesn't need to be your moral compass. Make an AirBnB profile without your photo, if that makes you comfortable. Ask the difficult questions before spending your hard-earned money. It's a business. They are competing for your dollar. If they don't provide everything to allow you to have an enjoyable experience, move on. Good advice, Knowledge. How ironic.[/QUOTE]I provided two names. My regular "girlfriend" and my Perfect Little 10. Meanwhile, today I met a lady for coffee at Exito Laureles, and lunch time came, and there was literally nowhere to eat. Normally I would have taken her back to my place and ordered lunch. But now I can't. And it was a great date, I would have surely gotten laid too. So, I'm moving.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459555]You covered an important point I neglected to mention, or maybe I just made the mistake to assume it goes without saying. It is very problematic if girls come to your building in skimpy or provocative clothing. The terms most will understand are "vestimiento adecuado" or "prendas decentes".[/QUOTE]None of the girls were dressed as hookers. They were all dressed as girls next door. That's one of the reasons I was meeting them outside, to make sure I wasn't bringing a flamboyant hooker into the building. I was well-intentioned, but done fucked myself. Rookie mistake and the damage is done.

Responding to SlapShot, I've always chatted with the porteros, brought them pistachios or corn nuts etc from D1, always sober and respectful, and speak Spanish. So I can probably get an extra guest in, but my game here is up. I'm on the administradora's radar. The kiss of death.

After I continue fucking negra and they are begging me to cum. I have the 19 year old sucking my cock while negra is talking dirty to me, kissing me, and turning me on with eye contact. The 19 year old has her mouth right in front of my cock like she's not afraid of cum in her mouth. So I say la boca and she says si si. So I am getting sensuous kisses and my dick sucked aggressively. Finally I nut and yell out so loud that I know the entire building hears me. The 19 year old continues sucking my cock and negra is playing with my hot spot. Intensifying the orgasm and scream. I think I had one text since I been at the building to quiet down or leave. I had porter come about 3 times but I tip them so no problem with them. The 3 some was great. We went down stairs and I made them hot dogs. I laugh when they enjoy the hot dogs. Such a cheap way to look like you are being thoughtful. Anyways the 19 year old gets dress and I am fucking with negra. She grabs my dick and gets totally distracted from leaving and she's jerking me off. The 19 year old is trying to tell her its time let's go. But I could see in her eyes she wanted me to nut. She tries real hard but I didn't happen. Finally she said I got to go. We gave each other hugs and kisses. I gave negra a Victoria secrets panty. She then ask me for 10 mil which I decline. I thought 240 mil was high for both girls even though the performance was off the charts. I am stupid like that. Today I went to 60 mil casa and chose 18 year old chick. Nice body, tits but a bust for performance. Every little thing she was trying me to pay more money. I either decline or explain the act was free. So it was off and on stimulation. Jerk my dick off on her titties and called it a day. Tomorrow If things go right will have a 4 some including the 8, negra, and 19 year old. Negra decline at 120 mil each. Wants more money. I told her no. I know she wants to have sex with the 8. They met at lleras park night club so let's see what happens tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459463]Over the last few days I have been doubling up. Casa and tinder, casa and the 8. Casa 81 a 42-46.6 ft white Colombian performance was better than her looks but she wasn't bad. Casa la 70 performance was on par with her looks not a stunner but good. Tinder girl came by for her headphones she left but said she was horny. She's a nymphomaniac for sure. Arrives starts play with her pussy on the couch. Allows me to video. She is a guarantee 2 nuts automatically. She never ask for money or taxi. I give her a new years pretty dress. Cost me $7 and 15 mil taxi. She's happy. Yesterday morning I call a young lady from Facebook to give her business before I go. I did a solo with her and also a nice 3 some. She always showed honesty, sincerity, and really into girls and seems like a nymph as well. Anyways it's been a good while since we linked. She's about 5' 9 attractive negron. Nice curves. She tells me she's available but has a friend and sends me 3 pictures. Says girl is 19 and she did a 3 some with her before. The girl 1st was incredible. I trust this girl so I go with the arrangement. 3 HR, 120 mil each total and 2 leche. Oral no condom. I am a little nervous cause 1 pic look like she has slight tummy. They arrive about 45 minutes late but I am happy. My negra is still sexy and attractive. The 19 year old looks every bit 19 with no tummy, no fat anywhere. Nice body. Outfit was not the best but maybe she's a newbie that's all she can afford. We get in the elevator and give each other warm hug. All is good. Get inside apartment and my music gets the 19 year old attention. She seem surprised I am up to date. I get some beer, popcorn and we salud. They bring their own weed and we smoke. I can't wait to get home and give up weed smoking LOL. I ask them to dance on my table and they are okay with it but do not allow me to take video since they strip down. They dance with each other and its fucking nice laying on my couch watching 2 girls dance with each other. They ask me to come up and I strip and get up there so now I am in the middle. The 19 year old seem anxious and grabs my dick right away and negra is kissing on me passionately. Then I switch to 19 year old and she kisses me passionately. 2 great passionate kissers. What's the odds. We continue for a little bit longer then realize the danger of 3 on a table dancing near to the edge. We get down and i Iay on my couch. Negra comes for more passionate kisses and 19 year begins sucking. The energy is extremely high. The chemistry was off the charts. Both these girls pisces and LEO was identical in many ways how they kiss and touch and suck. They never took a break. We all had hands on each other the entire time. I decide I wanted the 19 year old to lick negra and so I watched. Then I had negra lick the 19 year old. It seem like I could fuck negra raw but she then ask for condom. I fucked the 19 year old first. She was truly a star and it was tempting to give her lots of attention, but negra was right up there with her performance wise. 19 year old pussy is tight and wet. I am hitting it from the back and negra kissing on me touch on me. Perfect world. We go upstairs and I want to fuck negra. Switch condoms and now fucking negra. Negra comes at the drop of a dime. You can say boo and she comes. 19 year old is touching on her playing with negra nice tits and I sense her really enjoying playing with her titties. So I pull out and leave the them two to play with each other. They start fucking each other. Scissors or whatever they call it. First time seeing it done in person. They make each other come. Oh shit. Will continue the story later. Sleep time.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459637]After I continue fucking negra and they are begging me to cum. I have the 19 year old sucking my cock while negra is talking dirty to me, kissing me, and turning me on with eye contact. The 19 year old has her mouth right in front of my cock like she's not afraid of cum in her mouth. So I say la boca and she says si si. So I am getting sensuous kisses and my dick sucked aggressively. Finally I nut and yell out so loud that I know the entire building hears me..[/QUOTE]So your followers want to know when you "came", screaming at the top of your lungs, where exactly did the load of "goo" end up.

For the record please clarify as follows, did you cum in her mouth, and if so, did she swallow. If you came in her mouth and she swallowed, you have a keeper, if you came in her mouth, and she spit it out, she was being very dis-respectful of you, and needs to be benched for a while.

Sometimes a taxi would arrive with a chica and the meter cost would be like 28 mil. And I would wonder what cause it to be that high. What is the hustle? This the minor dumb shit that a cheapy Charlie studies to counteract the game. So experience members enlighten me if this is legit or tactical. I know we are just talking $8.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459648]Sometimes a taxi would arrive with a chica and the meter cost would be like 28 mil. And I would wonder what cause it to be that high. What is the hustle? This the minor dumb shit that a cheapy Charlie studies to counteract the game. So experience members enlighten me if this is legit or tactical. I know we are just talking $8.[/QUOTE]28 mil is somewhat normal from Bello to Poblado. Sometimes girls will use their own driver, 50 mil one way is typical for drivers of girls in high demand; you can talk it down to 30 mil. Sometimes girls will take the taxi to pick up tussi or drop-off a friend before coming to meet you. I was close enough with some of my regulars, they actually took me deep inside of their neighborhood once or twice; we took a random taxi from the street, the cost was around 18-25 mil from Poblado to Bello or bellen.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459648]Sometimes a taxi would arrive with a chica and the meter cost would be like 28 mil. And I would wonder what cause it to be that high. What is the hustle? This the minor dumb shit that a cheapy Charlie studies to counteract the game. So experience members enlighten me if this is legit or tactical. I know we are just talking $8.[/QUOTE]Well 20 mil is pretty standard across the board so really we are just talking about 8 mil or $2. It depends where they are coming from but 28 mil is probably a bit high. Even 20 mil is usually more than enough. I've seen chicas regularly get rides on Didi late at night for 12-15 k back to Bello from Poblado.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459648]Sometimes a taxi would arrive with a chica and the meter cost would be like 28 mil.[/QUOTE]Maybe she called her taxi friend to come bring her to you and he started the meter when she called instead of when he picked her up in order to juice you. I always ask a chick beforehand how much a taxi costs or ask the person at the front desk how much a taxi between the two locations should cost.

28.000 is enough to hire a taxi to take you to several stops with waiting time between Poblado and surrounding areas. Use Didi or Uber to get a fare estimate up front and be able to track the route and estimate arrival time. That is the easy convenient and least expensive way to do it. Once you find yourself converting pesos to dollars that is a red flag that you are trying to justify a cost you really know you overpaid.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459648]Sometimes a taxi would arrive with a chica and the meter cost would be like 28 mil. And I would wonder what cause it to be that high. What is the hustle? This the minor dumb shit that a cheapy Charlie studies to counteract the game. So experience members enlighten me if this is legit or tactical. I know we are just talking $8.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459648]Sometimes a taxi would arrive with a chica and the meter cost would be like 28 mil. And I would wonder what cause it to be that high. What is the hustle? This the minor dumb shit that a cheapy Charlie studies to counteract the game. So experience members enlighten me if this is legit or tactical. I know we are just talking $8.[/QUOTE]20 mil or under should cover it most of the time. If it is over 20 mil, it could be waiting in traffic, or the meter was turned on when they got the call and not when picked up. They could be juicing you or whatever the con the chick is running. I don't like to deal with all that shit, so I just tell the chicas that I will give them 20 mil for the taxi. I have not heard a single one complain about it.

Just a quick heads up to those currently in Medellin (especially Laureles and El Poblado).

[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/detienen-a-10-extranjeros-que-estaban-de-rumba-en-medellin-508432?fbclid=IwAR2eK3KYB1yX9DDqY43ue52jkYXp8lLl9qH7-jw-g8DdVu_tMipXMo_ORv8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459738]Just a quick heads up to those currently in Medellin (especially Laureles and El Poblado).

[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/detienen-a-10-extranjeros-que-estaban-de-rumba-en-medellin-508432?fbclid=IwAR2eK3KYB1yX9DDqY43ue52jkYXp8lLl9qH7-jw-g8DdVu_tMipXMo_ORv8[/URL][/QUOTE]That's interesting. There's no way that their party was more dense than a typical day on the street in El Centro now. And during the 10 weeks of lockdown, I heard many large and loud parties in Prado Centro, that went until 3 or 4 in the morning. Seems like these arrests only happen to foreigners.

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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459555]You covered an important point I neglected to mention, or maybe I just made the mistake to assume it goes without saying. It is very problematic if girls come to your building in skimpy or provocative clothing. The terms most will understand are "vestimiento adecuado" or "prendas decentes".[/QUOTE]That was one point I always stressed. Dress conservatively. In the 2 apartments I used which had porteros, I didn't need to register guests, but I did have to walk them in. It wasn't an issue because both buildings host a lot of webcam models, although I got a few nasty looks.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459648]Sometimes a taxi would arrive with a chica and the meter cost would be like 28 mil. And I would wonder what cause it to be that high. What is the hustle? This the minor dumb shit that a cheapy Charlie studies to counteract the game. So experience members enlighten me if this is legit or tactical. I know we are just talking $8.[/QUOTE]You should inquire as to which barrio your Chicas are coming from, along with making notes as to the time of day, and the weather. When they arrive ask how long did it take to get there. Sometimes there's what called a "taco", not something you get at Taco Bell, but the word they use for heavy traffic / delays. Another factor besides the time of day is the weather, along with the route taken and whether they take surface streets or the Autopista. A lot of times the taxis will take the longest route to increase their fares which you will have no control over. When I travel across town I tell the drivers the route I want to take and the shortcuts thru Poblado, along with which streets to avoid. But again this won't help you much. A strategy you might employ with your Chica's is just tell them you will only pay a fixed amount for taxi fare, but then what will happen is they will take buses that drop them off close to your place and then hop in a cab and pay the minimum fare. In reality, a Chica should be able to get your apartment for no more than about 10 K if they have to even take two buses, along with a short cab ride.

I know it's rough for you seeing all those perceived excessive taxi charges ($ 2 USD) but prices could vary upwards of 10 K depending on the route, the weather, and the traffic. Additionally, a lot of times the taxi's meters aren't calibrated properly, maybe by design, and I have noticed this on numerous occasions.

Hopefully this information will improve your "taxi game" and you can report back on your successes!

They are dumbasses for ignoring the first police warning to turn down the music. They got arrested after multiple complaints. Good point about Poblado and Laureles because there are plenty of loud parties every weekend in other barrios including mine. Hell, there is a nightly soccer match with lights and a cheering crowd in Milagrosa.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459738]Just a quick heads up to those currently in Medellin (especially Laureles and El Poblado).

[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/detienen-a-10-extranjeros-que-estaban-de-rumba-en-medellin-508432?fbclid=IwAR2eK3KYB1yX9DDqY43ue52jkYXp8lLl9qH7-jw-g8DdVu_tMipXMo_ORv8[/URL][/QUOTE]

I was thinking the person is not home. Gets taxi take her home then comes to my house. Good response.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2459728]Maybe she called her taxi friend to come bring her to you and he started the meter when she called instead of when he picked her up in order to juice you. I always ask a chick beforehand how much a taxi costs or ask the person at the front desk how much a taxi between the two locations should cost.[/QUOTE].

I am so analytical I like to understand the dynamics. Thanks for responding

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2459722]Well 20 mil is pretty standard across the board so really we are just talking about 8 mil or $2. It depends where they are coming from but 28 mil is probably a bit high. Even 20 mil is usually more than enough. I've seen chicas regularly get rides on Didi late at night for 12-15 k back to Bello from Poblado.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459781]I am so analytical I like to understand the dynamics. Thanks for responding[/QUOTE]I used to take a taxi 3 or 4 times a week from in front of Parque Poblado to the apartment. 6450 pesos. Almost every time. One night I hop in the taxi and the meter, which at that time was supposed to start at 3000 was already above 5 k. I pointed to the meter said "que es este? Por que no es 3000?" he apologized and reset the meter. Around Lleras, especially late night, the taxistas will start the meter when they park, figuring many passengers won't notice.

Another time I watched the meter reach 8 k before we were close to the apartment. I told the driver I take the same taxi ride every night and his meter was wrong. He accepted 7 k and went away. Drivers will pay someone to alter the meter, because most customers won't have any idea.

There's a rumor that not every taxi driver is 100% honest.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459772]They are dumbasses for ignoring the first police warning to turn down the music. They got arrested after multiple complaints. Good point about Poblado and Laureles because there are plenty of loud parties every weekend in other barrios including mine. Hell, there is a nightly soccer match with lights and a cheering crowd in Milagrosa.[/QUOTE]My take away is that they were all under thirty, and not mongers. And it's amazing they would blow off the Police after being warned, especially the foreigners.

Today was the day to buy things without having to pay the Colombian 19% tax on merchandise, albeit there were some limitations as to which items, and a maximum dollar value of approximately $ 800 USD for items. Total craziness with incredible lines, forget any social distancing, and like a total stampede. Doesn't make sense in having a one day affair like this, and really only to the benefit of the upper classes.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2459761]That was one point I always stressed. Dress conservatively. In the 2 apartments I used which had porteros, I didn't need to register guests, but I did have to walk them in. It wasn't an issue because both buildings host a lot of webcam models, although I got a few nasty looks.[/QUOTE]Walking them in is what got me in trouble.

Clearly the upper class can benefit from it and probably do. But the middle and lower classes likely do also. Everyone knows about today. Some save money to buy certain things today. 19% off is a good deal.

Some of these poor folks may not have food, but some of them (thinking of working girls) sure have nice TV, boom boxes, make-up, clothes, shoes and purses. I had one chica friend of mine message me today sending me fotos of the expensive lingerie she purchased. She said there was a promotion on top of the IVA discount.

One things for sure, this promotion did nothing to help with social distancing!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2459817]Today was the day to buy things without having to pay the Colombian 19% tax on merchandise, albeit there were some limitations as to which items, and a maximum dollar value of approximately $ 800 USD for items. Total craziness with incredible lines, forget any social distancing, and like a total stampede. Doesn't make sense in having a one day affair like this, and really only to the benefit of the upper classes.[/QUOTE]

Went down to El Centro today. Yes, a lot of folks out shopping because of the tax holiday, but the hoes are back to pre-Covid levels, maybe even more because Venezuela has taken over. Had a couple of chicas offer 25 mil. I saw a nice thick chica with big boobs and a pretty face so I grabbed that for 40 mil, which included the room and BBBJ.

She told me she works at Barra Ejecutiva but they are closed until December so she is out on the stroll now. Took me to one of those little hotels. Process was pretty straight forward like clockwork. I gave the lady inside the 40 mil she gave us a rubber and off we went.

We each had a little bar of soap and towels so we washed our hands, etc. And she got on the bed and got naked. I took my clothes off and she started giving me a BBBJ while I was standing. It was good but I wanted to lay down so I did and she continued to give me some good head. No balls licking but still a good job.

When she finished, she got on top and started riding until she tired out. I then put her in doggy style and was slamming it from the back. Finally, laid her down and started stroking missionary. The putang was feeling so good I finally had to bust. Afterwards, there was small talk and I collected her number for future reference.

Afterwards, I walked around for a bit and purchased some food to take back with me. I kept getting hissed at and approached but I was on chill mode. Went up to Oriental for awhile and there was mad talent shopping, leaving work, and just out and about.

Walked back down to Botero and it was packed. There was even a group of about 50-60 feminists playing drums, dancing and singing in front of the museum. It was a very festive vibe. I would have hung out longer but I wanted to get home to eat and also have to take care of some business very early tomorrow. All and all, it was a good time and I will be heading back down more often. These next couple of months are going to be crazy!

[QUOTE]19% off is a good deal.
[/QUOTE]More like 15.97% off I believe.

Does the tax holiday apply to short time hotels as well? (I know that tourists can avoid it anyway but only if there are no Colombians in the room).

El Centro got a little too spicy this afternoon.

At about 4 pm I was near Ground Zero, more or less in front of the Tostao, chatting with a fellow gringo. Two young men along with two women approached and asked me (and separately the other guy) to buy them beers. I politely declined. One of the guys was trying to get into my personal space, so we moved away from them. The two guys quickly re-approached and he touched my shoulder. I told him not to touch me, and we walked away. I saw them coming again and I tried to walk away, but one of them jumped right in front of me and displayed a knife, a black-handled 4-inch folder. The two guys then went hands-on with me and there was a scuffle. I thought I was going to lose my shirt (and also get stabbed), but broke free, and they didn't pursue me after that. The whole thing from the first contact took about two or three minutes, I think.

As Orgasmico noted, El Centro was packed today, but nobody came to my assistance. There were no cops within eyesight; I had noted that there were many, many cops in Botero proper and near the drum circle, but there were none around when I got attacked.

This one couldn't have been avoided, as they came after me twice after I walked away, and there were no police nearby.

There were so many girls today! I wish I could have partaken but I took off after that.

All true Mr. Orgasmico, in fact the new normal is 20 K to 30 K. I saw one of the candy girls working the statues go with a guy for 15 K. She was only average or less by Centro street standards but 15 K? It is going to be an interesting summer.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459845]Went down to El Centro today. Yes, a lot of folks out shopping because of the tax holiday, but the hoes are back to pre-Covid levels, maybe even more because Venezuela has taken over. Had a couple of chicas offer 25 mil. I saw a nice thick chica with big boobs and a pretty face so I grabbed that for 40 mil, which included the room and BBBJ.

She told me she works at Barra Ejecutiva but they are closed until December so she is out on the stroll now. Took me to one of those little hotels. Process was pretty straight forward like clockwork. I gave the lady inside the 40 mil she gave us a rubber and off we went.

We each had a little bar of soap and towels so we washed our hands, etc. And she got on the bed and got naked. I took my clothes off and she started giving me a BBBJ while I was standing. It was good but I wanted to lay down so I did and she continued to give me some good head. No balls licking but still a good job.

When she finished, she got on top and started riding until she tired out. I then put her in doggy style and was slamming it from the back. Finally, laid her down and started stroking missionary. The putang was feeling so good I finally had to bust. Afterwards, there was small talk and I collected her number for future reference.[/QUOTE]

Your report is timely. The big news today is uber is now 100% legal after the government dismissed all claims against their operation in Colombia. We can expect new services (they already started a package delivery service during the quarantine) and more drivers. Competition is good, Didi's private car rates have been less than uber's the past week. They are all less than the taxis and there is no meter mischief to contend with.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2459805]I used to take a taxi 3 or 4 times a week from in front of Parque Poblado to the apartment. 6450 pesos. Almost every time. One night I hop in the taxi and the meter, which at that time was supposed to start at 3000 was already above 5 k. I pointed to the meter said "que es este? Por que no es 3000?" he apologized and reset the meter. Around Lleras, especially late night, the taxistas will start the meter when they park, figuring many passengers won't notice.

Another time I watched the meter reach 8 k before we were close to the apartment. I told the driver I take the same taxi ride every night and his meter was wrong. He accepted 7 k and went away. Drivers will pay someone to alter the meter, because most customers won't have any idea.

There's a rumor that not every taxi driver is 100% honest.[/QUOTE]

She ask for 20 mil taxi money. Hope she knows I am deducting when she leaves. She was so hot I couldn't resist pulling up her skirt and fucking it doggy in the kitchen. Then she got on top and rode me. It seem like she wanted to make an impression. Then she ask me e to upstairs in the bedroom. And set up her iphone for a porn video. I mean I actually think. We might be live. She set up the camera for missionary fucking and deep throat standing up. The video is professional quality. She is amazing company and a freak. She's always flirting with my mind. One thing I don't like is she has me eating that pussy for a long time. I told her a chica was coming and she smiled. But chica never showed up. I nutted on her titties and was so elated with the orgasm and companionship. I bought burger King's LOL. She's still with me. More report later. She looked hot today.

I'm really sorry that happened to you. What you said about no one coming to your aid reminds me of a one way conversation I had with a Didi driver night. He complained that Colombians don't get involved when they see crimes taking place on the street. A girl I see told me a story a few weeks ago about seeing an middle aged woman robbed right in the middle of Parque Berrio at high noon. She ran off because she was with her son and she said no one objected or helped the woman. Anyway a bit of advice if you and anyone else is interested. I'm pretty sure I noticed you guys kibbitzing near the Tostao and Premium Plaza. 4 PM is a sort of happy hour for the bars around Premium Plaza. The ne-er do wells took advantage of the unusually large crowd and, as you mentioned, all the police posted at the demonstration in Botero Plaza. If you guys are the group I'm thinking of one of you has a ratty tail and long gray stubble and usually wears shorts pants. That is not a place to socialize. The lanky young pimps who hang around there will keep the desperadoes from interfering with guys who are dealing with girls. They won't cause problems for themselves unless it affects drug sales or dates. By now everybody knows a lot of petty crime happens in the area. I saw the police haul away a guy from the San Antonio end of Parque Berrio today. It looked like he did something to a street vendor or store. So back to ground zero, as I mentioned it's better to avoid socializing with other gringos there because it attracts attention. I'm not an especially observant guy and I noticed it. We don't have to ignore each other but we do need to stay aware of our surroundings. It's helpful to get into a gunfighter's position as in having a wall or one of the sculptures behind you so you can see anybody approaching at an odd angle or pace. It's what I do if I need to take a phone call, so no one can run up on me from behind or on a bike or motorcycle. Something I've seen happen to people more than a few times. Again, sorry it happened and I hope my notes are helpful to some. I'm still feeling bad about not saying something sooner about the portero situation in another post.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459849]El Centro got a little too spicy this afternoon.

At about 4 pm I was near Ground Zero, more or less in front of the Tostao, chatting with a fellow gringo. Two young men along with two women approached and asked me (and separately the other guy) to buy them beers. I politely declined. One of the guys was trying to get into my personal space, so we moved away from them. The two guys quickly re-approached and he touched my shoulder. I told him not to touch me, and we walked away. I saw them coming again and I tried to walk away, but one of them jumped right in front of me and displayed a knife, a black-handled 4-inch folder. The two guys then went hands-on with me and there was a scuffle. I thought I was going to lose my shirt (and also get stabbed), but broke free, and they didn't pursue me after that. The whole thing from the first contact took about two or three minutes, I think..[/QUOTE]

Sorry this happened to you. No one's going to get in between you and two guys with knives. I've seen two assaults in Centro and one in Laureles / Estadio. They generally happen very quickly and the passerbys just keep passing by. I will say I'm surprised that they re-approached after you initially got away. Usually they just move on to someone else. Is there something that might have made you a juicy target?

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459849]El Centro got a little too spicy this afternoon.

At about 4 pm I was near Ground Zero, more or less in front of the Tostao, chatting with a fellow gringo. Two young men along with two women approached and asked me (and separately the other guy) to buy them beers. I politely declined. One of the guys was trying to get into my personal space, so we moved away from them. The two guys quickly re-approached and he touched my shoulder. I told him not to touch me, and we walked away. I saw them coming again and I tried to walk away, but one of them jumped right in front of me and displayed a knife, a black-handled 4-inch folder. The two guys then went hands-on with me and there was a scuffle. I thought I was going to lose my shirt (and also get stabbed), but broke free, and they didn't pursue me after that. The whole thing from the first contact took about two or three minutes, I think.

As Orgasmico noted, El Centro was packed today, but nobody came to my assistance. There were no cops within eyesight; I had noted that there were many, many cops in Botero proper and near the drum circle, but there were none around when I got attacked.

This one couldn't have been avoided, as they came after me twice after I walked away, and there were no police nearby.

There were so many girls today! I wish I could have partaken but I took off after that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459851]All true Mr. Orgasmico, in fact the new normal is 20 K to 30 K. I saw one of the candy girls working the statues go with a guy for 15 K. She was only average or less by Centro street standards but 15 K? It is going to be an interesting summer.[/QUOTE]Oh how I miss those candy girls, and anything goes with them if you buy lots of candy!

I had a nice one from the Coast, twenty years old, no kids, and tight as a drum.

[QUOTE=Combo;2459879]Sorry this happened to you. No one's going to get in between you and two guys with knives. I've seen two assaults in Centro and one in Laureles / Estadio. They generally happen very quickly and the passerbys just keep passing by. I will say I'm surprised that they re-approached after you initially got away. Usually they just move on to someone else. Is there something that might have made you a juicy target?[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to assume that both Lugnut and the other guy he was talking with are obvious gringos, and probably stuck out like a sore thumb in the crowd. So just being a gringo in El Centro puts a huge target on your back. You can never underestimate how dangerous El Centro can be, and 4 PM on a Friday at ground zero is prime time with so many people out, yet thieves are brazen, and when brandishing a knife can stab you, go thru your pockets, and run off very quickly with anyone around frightened to get involved as you mention.

[QUOTE=Combo;2459879]Is there something that might have made you a juicy target?[/QUOTE]I've spent a lot of time all over El Centro during the past six months. Today was just bad luck. The first bad thing that's happened to me in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459851]All true Mr. Orgasmico, in fact the new normal is 20 K to 30 K. I saw one of the candy girls working the statues go with a guy for 15 K. She was only average or less by Centro street standards but 15 K? It is going to be an interesting summer.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think there is something for every price range right now, depending on your taste and everything is negotiable. I'm sure the girls that approached me with 25 could have been had for 20. Some even stopped me and no price was mentioned and they were young and thin so I'm sure they would have gone for 20. There is a mix out there of everything and some quality as well. I've seen many below average chicas that would probably take 15, if you just need a cum receptacle. The chicas are abnormally hungry with Covid shutting down businesses and very few foreigners around. Add to that, the dollar is still stronger than it was pre-Covid and we are fortunate.

I'm going to try to make the most of the situation before the tourists return in a few months and drive prices in the other direction.

PS. I would also add, if you can get the girls in the El Poblado and Laureles areas for 60 for an hour, the deal is probably better because you are getting an hour in a more relaxed environment and the girls on average tend to look better and the environment and experience is more laid back. You also avoid the transportation costs and hassle if you get caught downtown around rush hour. The flip side is that El Centro is a better vibe if you want to hang out and look, negotiate, have a drink, enjoy a broader selection and just enjoy the vibe of being around people again. Both experiences have their pluses and minuses.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459849]At about 4 pm I was near Ground Zero, Two young men along with two women approached and asked me (and separately the other guy) to buy them beers. I politely declined. One of the guys was trying to get into my personal space, so we moved away from them. The two guys quickly re-approached and he touched my shoulder. I told him not to touch me, and we walked away. I saw them coming again and I tried to walk away, but one of them jumped right in front of me and displayed a knife, a black-handled 4-inch folder. The two guys then went hands-on with me and there was a scuffle. I thought I was going to lose my shirt (and also get stabbed), but broke free, and they didn't pursue me after that. The whole thing from the first contact took about two or three minutes, I think.
El Centro was packed today, but nobody came to my assistance. There were no cops within eyesight; I had noted that there were many, many cops in Botero proper and near the drum circle, but there were none around when I got attacked.[/QUOTE]Lugnut,

First and foremost I am more than happy that you are safe, I recently said, Robberies and schemes are at an all-time high, you must be extremely careful, these are desperate times and people are trying many new schemes to rob Americans and other foreigners. I told you this also, I have seen the entire process in action and I have thanked my lucky stars that I have not been robbed or poisoned.

How do robberies in Parque Botero occur? They are well aware that many gringos love skinny white skinned girls, so they send these girls specifically at gringos that look like they are easy targets.

So it looks like she will be fun to bang, but the truth is, she is the bait for the robbery, Lets break down everything that you wrote. They approached you to ask you to buy them a beer, that was your first warning. What man, who is a complete stranger asks you to buy them a beer? Then there was more of them than you. You ventured into their space, more or less in front of the Tostao. Very few tourist police are located there now and the thieves know this.

Because they had lookouts to know were the tourist police were, they decided to try again to rob you. As you said, The two guys quickly re-approached and he touched my shoulder. The smartest thing you did was advise them not to touch you and put some space between you and them. They thought the knife would scare you and when it didn't this is when they became desperate, but you began to move more towards the statues and there are more cops in this area, this is why they did not pursue you. I have said it once and I will say it again, as a foreigner, please be careful. These people are desperate and their behavior is showing it.

I have girls that I see from the park, but I do not enter the park anymore, I had a really serious altercation in the park. Many who were involved in the altercation were upset that I did not allow them to rob me or extort me and I told them all to find a shade tree and sit under it, so they did not take that kindly. I cannot stress to BMs how much these people are targeting foreigner, so just please be careful when near Centro and Parque Botero. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459925]Yes, I think there is something for every price range right now, depending on your taste and everything is negotiable. I'm sure the girls that approached me with 25 could have been had for 20. Some even stopped me and no price was mentioned and they were young and thin so I'm sure they would have gone for 20. There is a mix out there of everything and some quality as well. I've seen many below average chicas that would probably take 15, if you just need a cum receptacle. The chicas are abnormally hungry with Covid shutting down businesses and very few foreigners around. Add to that, the dollar is still stronger than it was pre-Covid and we are fortunate.

I'm going to try to make the most of the situation before the tourists return in a few months and drive prices in the other direction.

PS. I would also add, if you can get the girls in the El Poblado and Laureles areas for 60 for an hour, the deal is probably better because you are getting an hour in a more relaxed environment and the girls on average tend to look better and the environment and experience is more laid back..[/QUOTE]Got to agree that the price maybe right, 30 to 50 mil for a chica then 10 mil for the room for 25 minutes give or take 5-10 minutes depending on the notel-motel you use, but I really need to just bust a nut as the whole process is just a bit too much for me and therefore I take contact info and see who will make my list for a bit more extended times and a bit more upscale rooms than the 10 mil "bust a nut" rooms which fulfills a purpose but never provides a lasting impression.

I do miss the pre CV days when you could have a beer and hang out in the seedy bars and relax.

The Tall Man.

That is a FACT! There is a lot of competition with Uber, PICAP, etc. And if the hear an accent, get ready for a LONG ride.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2459805]
There's a rumor that not every taxi driver is 100% honest.[/QUOTE]

Now you have me curious again. I might swing by to see what is up during the ley seca weekend. I heard a rumor the next two weekends will be dry too because of the holidays and Duque is feeling some kind of way for being dragged all over the Internet over yesterday's VAT holiday shopping day.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459925]Yes, I think there is something for every price range right now, depending on your taste and everything is negotiable. I'm sure the girls that approached me with 25 could have been had for 20. Some even stopped me and no price was mentioned and they were young and thin so I'm sure they would have gone for 20. There is a mix out there of everything and some quality as well. I've seen many below average chicas that would probably take 15, if you just need a cum receptacle. The chicas are abnormally hungry with Covid shutting down businesses and very few foreigners around. Add to that, the dollar is still stronger than it was pre-Covid and we are fortunate.

I'm going to try to make the most of the situation before the tourists return in a few months and drive prices in the other direction.

PS. I would also add, if you can get the girls in the El Poblado and Laureles areas for 60 for an hour, the deal is probably better because you are getting an hour in a more relaxed environment and the girls on average tend to look better and the environment and experience is more laid back. You also avoid the transportation costs and hassle if you get caught downtown around rush hour. The flip side is that El Centro is a better vibe if you want to hang out and look, negotiate, have a drink, enjoy a broader selection and just enjoy the vibe of being around people again. Both experiences have their pluses and minuses.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459851]Social distancing with the feminists[/QUOTE]Too funny, just saw this on youtube [URL]https://youtu.be/JsSRCShYpVg[/URL].

I assume you aren't surprised by this, and it all comes down to the risks you want to take. There's always a lot of desperate people around in Medellin, but surely now more than ever. Generally white guys are seen as softer targets than black guys. They also may think you are likely to have more money. If you are older and not especially big and / or tall that also doesn't help. Of course it's a big no no to get wasted or display valuables. There are areas of Centro where I'll walk on a limited basis, but I avoid the streetwalker areas. I never stand around anywhere. Be safe my friend, and yea, those committing these sorts of crimes often work in pairs, afoot or on a moto.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459849]El Centro got a little too spicy this afternoon.

At about 4 pm I was near Ground Zero, more or less in front of the Tostao, chatting with a fellow gringo. Two young men along with two women approached and asked me (and separately the other guy) to buy them beers. I politely declined. One of the guys was trying to get into my personal space, so we moved away from them. The two guys quickly re-approached and he touched my shoulder. I told him not to touch me, and we walked away. I saw them coming again and I tried to walk away, but one of them jumped right in front of me and displayed a knife, a black-handled 4-inch folder. The two guys then went hands-on with me and there was a scuffle. I thought I was going to lose my shirt (and also get stabbed), but broke free, and they didn't pursue me after that. The whole thing from the first contact took about two or three minutes, I think.

As Orgasmico noted, El Centro was packed today, but nobody came to my assistance. There were no cops within eyesight; I had noted that there were many, many cops in Botero proper and near the drum circle, but there were none around when I got attacked.

This one couldn't have been avoided, as they came after me twice after I walked away, and there were no police nearby.

There were so many girls today! I wish I could have partaken but I took off after that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2459849]I saw them coming again and I tried to walk away, but one of them jumped right in front of me and displayed a knife, a black-handled 4-inch folder. The two guys then went hands-on with me and there was a scuffle. I thought I was going to lose my shirt (and also get stabbed), but broke free, and they didn't pursue me after that. [/QUOTE]Technically you broke the cardinal rule, you "resisted a robbery," and had you been killed or maimed all would have been lined up to blame you for the outcome. "Just give them your money" is the advice. That's easier said than done though, as once hands are placed on you fight or flight instincts kick in, and these situations can come down fast. Nonetheless the advice is good, is best to cooperate, isn't worth getting stabbed over whatever minimal amount of $ is in your pocket. That said, there's never a guarantee that you'll get a head on robbery. Some just attack in groups from the blindside, disable the victim, rifled his pockets and run. There's then no opportunity to cooperate or resist.

P.S. Cooperating doesn't guarantee that you won't be harmed. Some may not want to leave a witness alive, may want to fuck you up so you can't give chase, or may be sickos that enjoy hurting people.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2459369]A few days back I spoke up how messy most of the chicas are, which is true, but all things considered my 18 yo Vennie GF am me have managed and dare I say that we have a friendship beyond the sex.[/QUOTE]Nice chica to be riding out the quarantine with. Where / how did you meet her?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2460035]Now you have me curious again. I might swing by to see what is up during the ley seca weekend. I heard a rumor the next two weekends will be dry too because of the holidays and Duque is feeling some kind of way for being dragged all over the Internet over yesterday's VAT holiday shopping day.[/QUOTE]The mayor of Bogota lambasted Duque for this, calling it "COVID Friday".

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459877]I'm really sorry that happened to you. What you said about no one coming to your aid reminds me of a one way conversation I had with a Didi driver night. He complained that Colombians don't get involved when they see crimes taking place on the street. A girl I see told me a story a few weeks ago about seeing an middle aged woman robbed right in the middle of Parque Berrio at high noon. She ran off because she was with her son and she said no one objected or helped the woman. Anyway a bit of advice if you and anyone else is interested. I'm pretty sure I noticed you guys kibbitzing near the Tostao and Premium Plaza. 4 PM is a sort of happy hour for the bars around Premium Plaza. The ne-er do wells took advantage of the unusually large crowd and, as you mentioned, all the police posted at the demonstration in Botero Plaza. If you guys are the group I'm thinking of one of you has a ratty tail and long gray stubble and usually wears shorts pants. That is not a place to socialize. The lanky pimps who hang around there will keep the desperadoes from interfering with guys who are dealing with girls. They won't cause problems for themselves unless it affects drug sales or dates. By now everybody knows a lot of petty crime happens in the area. I saw the police haul away a guy from the San Antonio end of Parque Berrio today. It looked like he did something to a street vendor or store. So back to ground zero, as I mentioned it's better to avoid socializing with other gringos there because it attracts attention. I'm not an especially observant guy and I noticed it. We don't have to ignore each other but we do need to stay aware of our surroundings. It's helpful to get into a gunfighter's position as in having a wall or one of the sculptures behind you so you can see anybody approaching at an odd angle or pace. It's what I do if I need to take a phone call, so no one can run up on me from behind or on a bike or motorcycle. Something I've seen happen to people more than a few times. Again, sorry it happened and I hope my notes are helpful to some. I'm still feeling bad about not saying something sooner about the portero situation in another post.[/QUOTE]Excellent pointers to lessen getting targeted in El Centro, especially talking with other gringo's at ground zero. This kind of situation is kind of like "flys's on shit" in terms of attracting a lot of attention, even wearing shorts, sunglasses, or carrying a plastic water bottle marks you.

This may sound odd to some, but locals won't spend 2,000 Pesos for a bottle of water, but will pay 500 Pesos for a bag of water. So having a plastic water bottle, and wearing shorts and sunglasses just put's a big "X" on your back as a foreigner, not even taking into account the color of your skin, hair, or eye's.

Ha, I haven't thought much about the water bottle thing. It's true the vendors sell those little "aguita" bags of water. Most of the characters around ground zero don't even deal with those, they recycle a discarded cup and ask for refills from the restaurants. It's Colombian culture to never refuse water to street people who request it politely.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2460085]Excellent pointers to lessen getting targeted in El Centro, especially talking with other gringo's at ground zero. This kind of situation is kind of like "flys's on shit" in terms of attracting a lot of attention, even wearing shorts, sunglasses, or carrying a plastic water bottle marks you.

This may sound odd to some, but locals won't spend 2,000 Pesos for a bottle of water, but will pay 500 Pesos for a bag of water. So having a plastic water bottle, and wearing shorts and sunglasses just put's a big "X" on your back as a foreigner, not even taking into account the color of your skin, hair, or eye's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2459463]Over the last few days I have been doubling up. Casa and tinder, casa and the 8. Casa 81 a 42-46.6 ft white Colombian performance was better than her looks but she wasn't bad. Casa la 70 performance was on par with her looks not a stunner but good. Tinder girl came by for her headphones she left but said she was horny. She's a nymphomaniac for sure. Arrives starts play with her pussy on the couch. Allows me to video. She is a guarantee 2 nuts automatically. She never ask for money or taxi. I give her a new years pretty dress. Cost me $7 and 15 mil taxi. She's happy. Yesterday morning I call a young lady from Facebook to give her business before I go. I did a solo with her and also a nice 3 some. She always showed honesty, sincerity, and really into girls and seems like a nymph as well. Anyways it's been a good while since we linked. She's about 5' 9 attractive negron. Nice curves. She tells me she's available but has a friend and sends me 3 pictures. Says girl is 19 and she did a 3 some with her before. The girl 1st was incredible. I trust this girl so I go with the arrangement. 3 HR, 120 mil each total and 2 leche. Oral no condom. I am a little nervous cause 1 pic look like she has slight tummy. They arrive about 45 minutes late but I am happy. My negra is still sexy and attractive. The 19 year old looks every bit 19 with no tummy, no fat anywhere. Nice body. Outfit was not the best but maybe she's a newbie that's all she can afford. We get in the elevator and give each other warm hug. All is good. Get inside apartment and my music gets the 19 year old attention. She seem surprised I am up to date. I get some beer, popcorn and we salud. They bring their own weed and we smoke. I can't wait to get home and give up weed smoking LOL. I ask them to dance on my table and they are okay with it but do not allow me to take video since they strip down. They dance with each other and its fucking nice laying on my couch watching 2 girls dance with each other. They ask me to come up and I strip and get up there so now I am in the middle. The 19 year old seem anxious and grabs my dick right away and negra is kissing on me passionately. Then I switch to 19 year old and she kisses me passionately. 2 great passionate kissers. What's the odds. We continue for a little bit longer then realize the danger of 3 on a table dancing near to the edge. We get down and i Iay on my couch. Negra comes for more passionate kisses and 19 year begins sucking. The energy is extremely high. The chemistry was off the charts. Both these girls pisces and LEO was identical in many ways how they kiss and touch and suck. They never took a break. We all had hands on each other the entire time. I decide I wanted the 19 year old to lick negra and so I watched. Then I had negra lick the 19 year old. It seem like I could fuck negra raw but she then ask for condom. I fucked the 19 year old first. She was truly a star and it was tempting to give her lots of attention, but negra was right up there with her performance wise. 19 year old pussy is tight and wet. I am hitting it from the back and negra kissing on me touch on me. Perfect world. We go upstairs and I want to fuck negra. Switch condoms and now fucking negra. Negra comes at the drop of a dime. You can say boo and she comes. 19 year old is touching on her playing with negra nice tits and I sense her really enjoying playing with her titties. So I pull out and leave the them two to play with each other. They start fucking each other. Scissors or whatever they call it. First time seeing it done in person. They make each other come. Oh shit. Will continue the story later. Sleep time.[/QUOTE]You're really fascinated that she might be 19 years old apparently. Maybe she has a name? Why you revel in sharing every detail of what might or might not have occurred during foreplay and intercourse is pretty odd, I think. . I know, I don't have to read it. I just wonder if any other members enjoy reading all this. Party on caballero.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2459516]As we approach 3 fricken months of the quarantine and what should have been a maximum 3 week stay for my 18 yo live-in vennie we have, dare I say, become so comfortable with each other that it is nice to have another person to hang around with despite her being so damn messy in the apartment.

I will say this again that you never really know a person until you live with them 24 and 7 for 3 months. The best way I can describe it is like that TV show Naked & Afraid where 2 complete strangers are put together in a deserted place and they must survive for 21 days. We watch TV shows, laugh, listen to music, eat together and sometimes separately, just hang out and about once a week when our pico why cedula is the same take a drive in the local area.

Like the vast majority of the same age she is on her cellphone at least 10 hours a day, seriously and with some days 15 hours non-stop.

She will take over my iPhone 11 Pro and take, I kid you not, hundreds of photos in all kinds of style and various outfits, many times I need to me the photographer. Not a bad way to pass the afternoon. She is completely comfortable with her body, no problem walking naked around the apartment after showering or top less when the weather was very warm.

So yes she is sloppy but all in all we have become so comfortable and easy with each other that I won't mind another month of quarantine if it is extended.

Now I save the best for last. In the past week I invited 2 of my special paisa chicas over to my place for the day (not together but 2 different chicas on 2 different days) and we all get along well, we order food, watch TV and listen to music and I then take my paisa to my room for a few hours.

Here is a photo of my vennie, I have literally close to a thousand of these types of photos of her in many different outfits and with some the both of us.

So in fairness, despite the fact that she is messy, she has not one of those disgraceful tattoos on her beautiful white skin, never uses drugs of any kind, drinks socially only, does not smoke and best of all has a good attitude and laughs a lot.

She is completely non-pro and not looking for any guy as I take care of her needs, hehehehe so don't ask for her contact information. Like I said before she could be a teen clothing model for Abercrombie & Fitch.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Approved!! BTW I have a beautiful very young lady who cleans my apartment exquisitely, its really impressive. That is to say not a slob chica, polar opposite. Almost never on the phone, either. Then, we spend 2 or 3 more hours together. Exquisite skills here too. Met her at a juice cart last spring. I adore her. She's really hard to contact most of the time. She came over this week for the first time since before the quarantine. She gives me a a shred of optimism about humans. Angelic face, you'll have to take my word

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2459230]Had a wild casa experience yesterday. Went to a casa in LOS Colores area. Didn't know what to expect but someone told me about it and said it was pretty good. When I rolled up, there were already 2 dudes knocking on the door. Not sure if they were there for the same thing as me. Little smokin hot chica answers the door and looks at the 2 Colombians and me and ask if I am so and so and lets only me in.

When I get in, I sit on the couch and they do a little presentation. About 7 chicas and all were fine. I picked a smoking morena that looked like she was from Cali with a tiny waste and stupid phat ass and nice full breasts. We go into the room and I lay on the bed and she puts some reggaeton on the TV from Youtube and begins to dance and shake her ass.

She takes my clothes off and gives me a crazy blow job and licks my balls. I was in heaven for sure. I must have been too relaxed because about 10 minutes later she asked me why I wasn't touching her body. I take off the skimpy lingerie she had on and start feeling up that voluptuous body while she is trying to deep throat me. I'm almost at the point of busting so I tell her to chill and lay her down so I can suck and lick away. She was fingering herself while I was sucking her tits like they were the last tits on earth. Her body and skin seemed flawless. I was thinking how could a chica this fine be selling pussy.

She puts the condom on and we go to work. Begin missionary and again I feel like I'm ready to bust so we switch up cause I want to see myself smashing that ass in the mirror. I was balls deep from behind I busted a crazy wadd.

She cleans me up and since we still had time on the clock (I requested an hour for 90 mil), she begins to suck on those places she could tell I like. I get rock hard again and she gets on top. I can tell she wants me to sit up so I can suck her tits while she rides on top. She grabs my head and literally smashes it into one of her big tits. Her tit was consuming my whole entire mouth (she was all natural). Tits were so big it was pressed against my nose as well. She has the back of my head aggressively pressed against her with her big tit in my mouth. I literally couldn't breath as my nose was covered in her tit as well and I'm thinking. This ***** is trying to George Floyd my ass.

I take control of the situation and roll her into missionary position again and start pounding. I keep noticing her looking up at me face to see the expressions I'm making. I guess the pussy must have been so good I was probably rolling my eyes to the back of my head. The 2nd nut can sometimes be a challenge but I was feeling that thickness she had all over my balls and all and I busted numero 2.

Afterwards, we are laying on the bed both breathing hard and listening to the music. I ask her about herself. Basic questions about if she has a man, kids, how long has she been in the game, etc. She is asking me questions as well. We exchange numbers and dance a little. I am over an hour so I get dressed and pay. When I'm leaving she wants to kiss me with those big juicy full lips that come from the motherland. I'm looking at her caramel complexion and she is looking so fine, I let her kiss my lips as I walk out the door.[/QUOTE]Was this Luna Lunera?. Or another. ? Please share the location. I have a mailbox too.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2459877]I'm really sorry that happened to you.

Anyway a bit of advice if you and anyone else is interested. I'm pretty sure I noticed you guys kibbitzing near the Tostao and Premium Plaza. 4 PM is a sort of happy hour for the bars around Premium Plaza. The ne-er do wells took advantage of the unusually large crowd and, as you mentioned, all the police posted at the demonstration in Botero Plaza. If you guys are the group I'm thinking of one of you has a ratty tail and long gray stubble and usually wears shorts pants. That is not a place to socialize. The lanky young pimps who hang around there will keep the desperadoes from interfering with guys who are dealing with girls.

So back to ground zero, as I mentioned it's better to avoid socializing with other gringos there because it attracts attention. I'm not an especially observant guy and I noticed it. We don't have to ignore each other but we do need to stay aware of our surroundings. It's helpful to get into a gunfighter's position as in having a wall or one of the sculptures behind you so you can see anybody approaching at an odd angle or pace. It's what I do if I need to take a phone call, so no one can run up on me from behind or on a bike or motorcycle. Something I've seen happen to people more than a few times. Again, sorry it happened and I hope my notes are helpful to some. I'm still feeling bad about not saying something sooner about the portero situation in another post.[/QUOTE]Yes that was us. I don't have a ponytail. I was probably standing next to you as were talking to the other gringo immediately in front of Tostao, I listened to you to speaking English.

I think the thing that I did wrong was that I was talking to another gringo; I would have been more mobile otherwise, and free to leave the area, but I felt obliged to wait for the other guy. Normally, I stand between Premium Plaza and the liquor store, and watch the scene, with my back to the wall.

Lots of other armchair warrior opinions coming in, but I worked my way out of a knife fight, unharmed, so I can do without. I'm not here for tactical advice. Of course things could have been much different and I don't take that for granted. And others assuming that I was in shorts, or sunglasses, or with a water bottle, all of which I was not, but whatever.

Paulie97, I did not resist a robbery, I responded to an attack. There was not an opportunity to comply.

It was a very fluid situation and I wanted to share it here with our brothers.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2460113]Approved!! BTW I have a beautiful very young lady who cleans my apartment exquisitely, its really impressive. That is to say not a slob chica, polar opposite. Almost never on the phone, either. Then, we spend 2 or 3 more hours together. Exquisite skills here too. Met her at a juice cart last spring. I adore her. She's really hard to contact most of the time. She came over this week for the first time since before the quarantine. She gives me a a shred of optimism about humans. Angelic face, you'll have to take my word[/QUOTE]I take your word, this is an inspiring post.

It's Luna Lunera, I put that out the day of the original post, along with a second opinion of the chica's tits.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2460123]Was this Luna Lunera?. Or another. ? Please share the location. I have a mailbox too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2460130]It's Luna Lunera, I put that out the day of the original post, along with a second opinion of the chica's tits.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm on my way there now. Nobody seems to want to come out tonight at a reasonable price. Is this a balmy moonlit night in Miami, or Colombia in the midst of a unprecedented economy crushing quarantine... ? geez chicas, get a clue...

The weather is not great and many chicas will be visiting their fathers tomorrow in spite of the government telling everybody not to do that.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2460142]Thanks. I'm on my way there now. Nobody seems to want to come out tonight at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]

No worries, I spoke no English. After watching the drum circle for a while I wandered through ground zero and chatted with a couple of the girls. I think you are right about what led to the unpleasantness. I wanted to catch the Exito on Maracaibo before it closed so I cut my travels short and took a room at the Botero Bulevar. I booked over to Maracaibo a little after 5 PM.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2460125]Yes that was us. I don't have a ponytail. I was probably standing next to you as were talking to the other gringo immediately in front of Tostao, I listened to you to speaking English.

I think the thing that I did wrong was that I was talking to another gringo; I would have been more mobile otherwise, and free to leave the area, but I felt obliged to wait for the other guy. Normally, I stand between Premium Plaza and the liquor store, and watch the scene, with my back to the wall.

Lots of other armchair warrior opinions coming in, but I worked my way out of a knife fight, unharmed, so I can do without. I'm not here for tactical advice. Of course things could have been much different and I don't take that for granted. And others assuming that I was in shorts, or sunglasses, or with a water bottle, all of which I was not, but whatever.

Paulie97, I did not resist a robbery, I responded to an attack. There was not an opportunity to comply.

It was a very fluid situation and I wanted to share it here with our brothers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2460085]Excellent pointers to lessen getting targeted in El Centro, especially talking with other gringo's at ground zero. This kind of situation is kind of like "flys's on shit" in terms of attracting a lot of attention, even wearing shorts, sunglasses, or carrying a plastic water bottle marks you.

This may sound odd to some, but locals won't spend 2,000 Pesos for a bottle of water, but will pay 500 Pesos for a bag of water. So having a plastic water bottle, and wearing shorts and sunglasses just put's a big "X" on your back as a foreigner, not even taking into account the color of your skin, hair, or eye's.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Whenever I go to centro, I always take off my watch and never reveal my phone unless I'm inside a bar and ready to call my Uber. I never carry more than 200 pesos since I never plan to session at centro, it's not my scene. I don't stop at one spot just to hang. So far out of my 5+ visits to centro, I have not seen any hidden gems people have been talking about, but I do like to experience the rawness of the street.

I look forward to your findings.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2460142]Thanks. I'm on my way there now. Nobody seems to want to come out tonight at a reasonable price. Is this a balmy moonlit night in Miami, or Colombia in the midst of a unprecedented economy crushing quarantine... ? geez chicas, get a clue...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2460125]
I think the thing that I did wrong was that I was talking to another gringo; I would have been more mobile otherwise, and free to leave the area, but I felt obliged to wait for the other guy. Normally, I stand between Premium Plaza and the liquor store, and watch the scene, with my back to the wall.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your experience, it's helpful to many of us.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2460113]Approved!! BTW I have a beautiful very young lady who cleans my apartment exquisitely, its really impressive. That is to say not a slob chica, polar opposite. Almost never on the phone, either. Then, we spend 2 or 3 more hours together. Exquisite skills here too. Met her at a juice cart last spring. I adore her. She's really hard to contact most of the time. She came over this week for the first time since before the quarantine. She gives me a a shred of optimism about humans. Angelic face, you'll have to take my word[/QUOTE]I believe it. With time and patience and some effort these types of circumstances happen more often than not here in never never land. You got a super situation and hats-off, good job.

I spent a few hours in Botero / Vera and surrounding areas yesterday afternoon (Saturday June 20th) and the amount of people out and about is back to pre-covid time, just need to get the bars and restaurants back opened up.

Lots of chicas out looking for business, many familiar ones and some new ones too. I was not planning to taking any girl to the hotel but happened to run into an old friend from 3 years back who yes is looking for a way to pay her bills. I know her really well as we have vacationed together with her and her best friends a few years back. A good honest paisa who like tens of thousands of others are struggling. Enjoyed a quick 30 minute romp in the hay, hehehehe ok a romp in the no-tel hotel, hehehehe.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2460125]I think the thing that I did wrong was that I was talking to another gringo; I would have been more mobile otherwise, and free to leave the area, but I felt obliged to wait for the other guy. Normally, I stand between Premium Plaza and the liquor store, and watch the scene, with my back to the wall..[/QUOTE]You did nothing wrong.

I have a friend who used to show up in El Centro wearing shorts, and walk all around, and even if he wasn't wearing shorts, he stuck out like a sore thumb but didn't care. He was always on a mission to find something to bang and get the hell out of dodge as quick as he could. I would typically meet up with him after having a session in El Centro and we would go out to dinner in Laureles or Poblado. However I would never hang with him in El Centro, or walk around with him when I was there.

At times when I have spoken with other gringos in El Centro, I go inside the mall with them directly opposite the Premium Plaza as the visibility is way less inside there.

El Centro can be tricky at times, especially for gringos, and there are strategies to lessen the risks such as where you stand when your there, and yes if you have a bottle of water in your hand, that's a dead giveaway that your a foreigner even ignoring the color of your hair or skin.

I am lucky as I can pass looks wise as a Colombian, and have been told this by other Colombians, and dress accordingly in dirty jeans and T-shirt, so I am pretty much under the radar until I open my mouth and the the cat is out of the bag.

I remember one day walking on the backside of the Church in front of all the bars and an obvious gringo was walking in front of me, and he had a ponytail, and girls were coming up to him yelling hola gringo, and when I walked by, I was totally ignored.

This goes back to my analogy of "fly"s on shit", foreigners are going to attract attention and that's just the way it is in Colombia and some guys who are afraid of their shadow won't do well in El Centro where as other's eat it up like a lap dog.

This should be interesting.

"For this reason, the president, Ivand Duque, made an appeal to the citizen conscience and anticipated that the country should prepare to spend a Christmas in quarantine.

We have to prepare ourselves as a society to face this pandemic that is going to last for at least another year as long as we don't have a vaccine, if it comes out before wonderful, but that means that we are going to have love and friendship with the pandemic, that we will have Halloween with the pandemic, that means that we will have Christmas with the pandemic, said the president. ".

[URL]https://www.publimetro.co/co/noticias/2020/06/21/mensaje-ivan-duque-la-navidad-coronavirus-consterno-mas-uno.html?fbclid=IwAR1htaDxi77CLsFUHiPeJC4yLm4f49I9-LGB-9jjELtztDoojWKmKeuLPSs[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2460285]This should be interesting.

"For this reason, the president, Ivand Duque, made an appeal to the citizen conscience and anticipated that the country should prepare to spend a Christmas in quarantine.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link, Orgasmico. I would tell Duque good luck getting people to comply with it.

The people I talk to are already at their wit's end with covid. I tell them how open things are in the USA and Mexico, and it is very frustrating to them. I will say that the huge surge in Covid cases (but not deaths) has been greeted by the American people with a yawn.

As of now, I plan on bringing my women to Mexico and seeing them there. I guess they will have to isolate two weeks after they are back though.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2460293]Thanks for the link, Orgasmico. I would tell Duque good luck getting people to comply with it.

The people I talk to are already at their wit's end with covid. I tell them how open things are in the USA and Mexico, and it is very frustrating to them. I will say that the huge surge in Covid cases (but not deaths) has been greeted by the American people with a yawn..[/QUOTE]This is how mass psychology works. The way Trump and people with similar brain approaches the problem is: less tests, less positive results, less worry. Who cares if we have 100k tested positive, if they don't die?

Unfortunately, the virus spreading follows an exponential law. Parameters may vary, but it's an exponetial law. Once attention is relaxed, the average distance between people is reduced, the average time of contiguity, etc. , the magic number "average number of infected caused by a single, throughout its overall time of activity" goes above 1, and the exponential starts to inflate. You know the rice bean on box #1 of the chess table, which becomes 2 on the #2, 4 on the #3, etc.

Second thing to say "unfortunately", the curve of "tested positive" is followed by the curve of "deaths" with a significant delay. If you have 100k entering disease today, maybe few thousands will be dead but in a few weeks. When you start to be worried because you have 10k deaths, the number of "probably dead" on the way has already grown. It's past already.

Mass people starts to detect the problem when the number of people in hospital grows to a number that makes it evident, when everyone knows at least one in his circle who is in hospital, or is dead. There are areas in Northern Italy where 50% of population is now positive to antibodies, and families have been decimated from February to April. Each family has someone passed away. At this point, it is too late to understand and exclamate "Hey! there is a problem!". The problem has already entered your home. You will not see much people in those areas crowding pubs even today, because they have seen it and they are scared to hell.

Brazil is an interesting social experiment. A big country led by an idiot who believes the epidemic is not a serious problem. The number of dead today is already large, but it can quickly become overwhelming.

I wish this will not happen in USA and Mexico, but unfortunately mass people do not understand a problem if not big and directly affecting their personal life. Very sad.

"I think the thing that I did wrong was that I was talking to another gringo."



What I notice about Americans is that we often speak in public very loud and often with our hands to the point of almost putting on a show.

We can unknowingly draw unwanted attention to ourselves.

This is not the norm in many countries and can be looked down upon or possibly an attention deficit? Not saying this happened but just a particular oddity that is very noticeable about the stereotypical American foreigner.
If anyone gets the chance, try to pick up on what I'm saying the next time a group of the aforementioned gets together and the reactions of the locals, not just in Medellin.

A particular instance comes to mind where at a hotel I stay at in MDE, was an oblivious dufus sat resting right on the middle steps of the entrance to the hotel and local guests had to walk around him.

He was very comfortable having his loud conversation with another english speaker across the street to the dismay of hotel staff and guests, as well as curious average people walking around the calle.

Maybe its best to blend in when in Centro.

[QUOTE=Bill;2460305]"I think the thing that I did wrong was that I was talking to another gringo."



What I notice about Americans is that we often speak in public very loud and often with our hands to the point of almost putting on a show.

We can unknowingly draw unwanted attention to ourselves.

This is not the norm in many countries and can be looked down upon or possibly an attention deficit? Not saying this happened but just a particular oddity that is very noticeable about the stereotypical American foreigner.
If anyone gets the chance, try to pick up on what I'm saying the next time a group of the aforementioned gets together and the reactions of the locals, not just in Medellin.

A particular instance comes to mind where at a hotel I stay at in MDE, was an oblivious dufus sat resting right on the middle steps of the entrance to the hotel and local guests had to walk around him.

He was very comfortable having his loud conversation with another english speaker across the street to the dismay of hotel staff and guests, as well as curious average people walking around the calle.

Maybe its best to blend in when in Centro.[/QUOTE]Myself, I typically avoid US Americans / gringos, they just kinda bug me. Perhaps I see too much of myself in them. I left there for a lot of reasons. If I wanted gringo friends I would have stayed up there. Although its quite hard to have friends in the US, everybody is so damned busy, stressed out, and lock themselves away with a TV after 6:30 pm. I typically make a thoughtful and strategic effort to blend in the best that I can. Sometimes its effective, other times not. At least, often times people recognize me as a foreigner but they are surprised a bit that I am not European or Argentinian. I count those instances as victories.

I remember once sitting in the airport in Costa Rica and group of loud, obnoxious US Americans came barreling through. It was disturbing.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2460293]Thanks for the link, Orgasmico. I would tell Duque good luck getting people to comply with it.

The people I talk to are already at their wit's end with covid. I tell them how open things are in the USA and Mexico, and it is very frustrating to them. I will say that the huge surge in Covid cases (but not deaths) has been greeted by the American people with a yawn.

As of now, I plan on bringing my women to Mexico and seeing them there. I guess they will have to isolate two weeks after they are back though.[/QUOTE]In very simple terms, and mentioned in what Duque said, was that until their is a vaccine, at least an effective one, that Colombia was 'hosed", and I think a lot of people have thrown in the towel meaning their at their wit's end (fuck it is all I hear now) as you mentioned, and that's what a lot of other Countries around the world think of the USA in how we have handled things meaning we have "given up".

I'm honestly ashamed at how were doing, and think we are the laughing stock of the world.

As a side note, you mentioned Mexico, and I experienced something I found perplexing this week, but perhaps should not of been given how things have been, or perhaps, not handled by Washington. I decided to go to Tijuana on Wednesday and all non-essential travel to Mexico has been banned by Washington for over a month now and was just recently extended. So I parked my car by the border and walked to the entry, I was expecting to see CBP personnel on the USA side advising people of the ban, along with postings that any non-essential travel was not allowed.

But there was nothing, not a single sign or CBP personnel at the entrance or along the pathway into Mexico. Upon crossing the turnstile and entering I got to the immigration booth and was asked how long I was going to be there with not a single other question asked and they issued me a tourist card, I then walked about 15 feet, they checked my temperature, and was in. And it was the same returning back in the USA, no questions asked about how long I was there, what was I doing there, no temperature checks, only what was I bringing back.

Without going into any detail as to what was going on in Mexico, entering and exiting was like there was no Pandemic, yet all non-essential travel was banned yet no enforcement. This is what I found perplexing, but maybe I shouldn't of.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2460302]This is how mass psychology works. The way Trump and people with similar brain approaches the problem is: less tests, less positive results, less worry. Who cares if we have 100k tested positive, if they don't die?

Unfortunately, the virus spreading follows an exponential law. Parameters may vary, but it's an exponetial law. Once attention is relaxed, the average distance between people is reduced, the average time of contiguity, etc. , the magic number "average number of infected caused by a single, throughout its overall time of activity" goes above 1, and the exponential starts to inflate. You know the rice bean on box #1 of the chess table, which becomes 2 on the #2, 4 on the #3, etc.

Second thing to say "unfortunately", the curve of "tested positive" is followed by the curve of "deaths" with a significant delay. If you have 100k entering disease today, maybe few thousands will be dead but in a few weeks. When you start to be worried because you have 10k deaths, the number of "probably dead" on the way has already grown. It's past already.

Mass people starts to detect the problem when the number of people in hospital grows to a number that makes it evident, when everyone knows at least one in his circle who is in hospital, or is dead. There are areas in Northern Italy where 50% of population is now positive to antibodies, and families have been decimated from February to April. Each family has someone passed away. At this point, it is too late to understand and exclamate "Hey! there is a problem!". The problem has already entered your home. You will not see much people in those areas crowding pubs even today, because they have seen it and they are scared to hell.

Brazil is an interesting social experiment. A big country led by an idiot who believes the epidemic is not a serious problem. The number of dead today is already large, but it can quickly become overwhelming.

I wish this will not happen in USA and Mexico, but unfortunately mass people do not understand a problem if not big and directly affecting their personal life. Very sad.[/QUOTE]If ruling class's intention is to reduce population and implement a new Marxist world order. , I wish they would just do it quickly instead of torturing the underclass with fear, indignity, and destruction of prosperity. Unleash the virus and get it over with already.

[QUOTE=Bill;2460305]
What I notice about Americans is that we often speak in public very loud and often with our hands to the point of almost putting on a show.

We can unknowingly draw unwanted attention to ourselves.

This is not the norm in many countries and can be looked down upon or possibly an attention deficit? Not saying this happened but just a particular oddity that is very noticeable about the stereotypical American foreigner.
[/QUOTE]Given how expressive the Spanish are known to be, it's kind of funny to think that Americans in general could be louder than Colombians.

It is a little ironic. I was married to a woman from Bogota for 9 years. Colombians can be loud when it comes to watching soccer or hanging out with the family, possibly playing a game. But they are not so loud, I've found, in public or around people they do not know. The average gringo does not seem to care. I have heard gringos (young and old) who are loud and use some pretty bad language. They do not seem to care where they are or who else is there. And of course they are speaking in English, so that may make it seem to be even louder, since it's a language most Colombians don't understand.

I am like a few other posters. I do not keep many gringo friends in Medellin. And most of them I do, we have discussions online, but do not meet and hang out. I prefer to pass time with hot, Colombian chicas, preferably in places most gringo tourists would never go. That said, if I'm in Lleras to have some shots and I see some gringos who are nice and calm and need a little hep with suggestions or language, I'm happy to help and speak to them. It's the obnoxious, loud, know-it-alls (after two trips, perhaps) that I avoid.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2460334]Given how expressive the Spanish are known to be, it's kind of funny to think that Americans in general could be louder than Colombians.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2460374]It is a little ironic. I was married to a woman from Bogota for 9 years. Colombians can be loud when it comes to watching soccer or hanging out with the family, possibly playing a game. But they are not so loud, I've found, in public or around people they do not know. The average gringo does not seem to care. I have heard gringos (young and old) who are loud and use some pretty bad language. They do not seem to care where they are or who else is there. And of course they are speaking in English, so that may make it seem to be even louder, since it's a language most Colombians don't understand.

I am like a few other posters. I do not keep many gringo friends in Medellin. And most of them I do, we have discussions online, but do not meet and hang out. I prefer to pass time with hot, Colombian chicas, preferably in places most gringo tourists would never go. That said, if I'm in Lleras to have some shots and I see some gringos who are nice and calm and need a little hep with suggestions or language, I'm happy to help and speak to them. It's the obnoxious, loud, know-it-alls (after two trips, perhaps) that I avoid.[/QUOTE]Yes. Overall Colombians are more reserved. Fortunately, that changes when the clothes come off.

Your observations are insightful. Like I said, we don't have to ignore each other in public but we need to maintain situational awareness. In my own case, I don't have many gringo friends either. I am here mostly for the girls, and in secondary order of importance, the climate and the cost of living. I have a few like minded gringo friends I've met through Colombianas. It's all good. From now on I will be more proactive about alerting people who I think might be in risky situations without noticing it. Be safe everybody.

To Pollo Negro, you have my curiosity piqued. Are you OK with sharing more details about the altercation you mentioned?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2460374]It is a little ironic. I was married to a woman from Bogota for 9 years. Colombians can be loud when it comes to watching soccer or hanging out with the family, possibly playing a game. But they are not so loud, I've found, in public or around people they do not know. The average gringo does not seem to care. I have heard gringos (young and old) who are loud and use some pretty bad language. They do not seem to care where they are or who else is there. And of course they are speaking in English, so that may make it seem to be even louder, since it's a language most Colombians don't understand.

I am like a few other posters. I do not keep many gringo friends in Medellin. And most of them I do, we have discussions online, but do not meet and hang out. I prefer to pass time with hot, Colombian chicas, preferably in places most gringo tourists would never go. That said, if I'm in Lleras to have some shots and I see some gringos who are nice and calm and need a little hep with suggestions or language, I'm happy to help and speak to them. It's the obnoxious, loud, know-it-alls (after two trips, perhaps) that I avoid.[/QUOTE]

Wow, sorry to hear that Lugger, but glad you made it out unscathed. I always keep an eye on the other gringos in Centro, be them black, white, or green. I try to pick out mannerisms or behavior that each individual has that stand out from what I perceive to be a local's perspective, or what some no-good might be observing as they stalk their prey. I am an obvious gringo, but I tend to stick to some things that I never really put a ton of thought into, but are just natural. No jewelry, cross-trainer type shoes to not draw attention and to be able to run if needed, no sunglasses, limited phone use, as Knowledge said - try to position myself with something to my back, so there is one less direction to worry about defending, walk with a purpose and avoid walking thru crowds but don't walk on the outskirts like you're scared, puffy chest and chin up, and for whatever reason, I don't mind having a bottle of beer in my hand, and I hold it by the neck. I'm certainly not looking for trouble, but when I set my mind to go to Centro, I know that I am putting myself at more risk of finding trouble. Thus, I have a different frame of mind, and I'm ready for the fight or flight decision.

Anyway, I went to Exito Wow for the VAT day, and bought myself a computer monitor / small tv, for work. It's been great. I also bought Pinky a phone. It was pretty annoying. I had to wait in a separate line, to pay for the phone. I left my full cart by the exit, after having paid for everything. No one even looked at it. I got to the counter after about 20 minutes, and the kid tells me I need a Colombian cedula for the discount. I was pretty frustrated. The initial salesperson should know that, considering I'm a gringo. So, either the communication is poor or they don't care. I started arguing with the two cashiers, and came to realize a cedula needs to be shown. They took my ID and went to get approval. He returned to tell me to go to Information to get my ID approved. Information had 10 people in line, and when I got to the front, what was I going to say? Hey the guy 25 m away told me to come here and show my ID!? So I stormed back and had some lady behind me show her cedula. It boggles my mind how incredibly inconsiderate and stupid some people are. I am holding up a line of 20 people arguing over a cedula when all that needs to happen is some one with a cedula show it to them, and me get the fuck out of everyone's way.

I found out my noise complaint was a farce. A resident on the 2nd floor complained about the 3rd floor unit. The new portero thought it was 12 complaining about 13 (at 1 am). The older portero explained to me and apologized. The manager was disappointed and apologized. I actually approached my downstairs neighbor about it, speaking in Spanish, to find out he is an 87 yo gringo. He talked my ear off for over an hour! He has a younger Paisa wife who takes great care of him, and he loves it here. Really fascinating, but I tried 3 times to wiggle out to go to Exito, and couldn't get loose. I needed some of Lugnut's body oil! Anyway, I was relieved to know they didn't call the portero, and the big issue they have is my oscillating fan in the bedroom being loud (I am a very light sleeper, so it's strange, to me, but I believe them), and my 40 kg elephant of a wife walking around like she has ski boots on!

Internet provider cancelled appointments the last two days, which is getting extremely annoying. My new fire stick / IPTV is not working as I'd hoped. Watching Christmas Vacation, now, and it's not bad, but the soccer games have been pathetic. However, I streamed on my laptop, connected to the new 32" monitor, and it was perfect.

So, to the fun part. Wifey and I had a good looking 20 yo from SA cancel last minute on Friday. We weren't too happy. I hate the last-minute routine. She said she was sick, and sent a picture of a puffy eye. So, we were messaging some girls as I worked out and we grilled some chicken on the terrace. Wifey finally says, fuck it, it's you and me tonight. We hung out in the hot tub for a long time. We ended up having sex in the jacuzzi, then in the upstairs bedroom. When we finally went to bed, we had round two. I was going down on her for what seemed like and eternity. Then, we fucked. It was AMAZING. She said she didn't know how many times she orgasmed. It had to be 7 or 8 times. Insane, and she has been much more carinosa since that night! The girl from Friday messages, yesterday and says she is feeling better after some medication she had been taking. So, Wifey says let's do it. 8 p - 300 k. No rush. No limits. Oral sin. Sex con. She is a bailarina with hot photos. Baby face, a little thick, and we linked on Instagram so I have been watching her dance videos.

Wifey is on one, last night. She wanted some pussy. The girl shows, and we are chatting for 10-15 minutes. She, like another girl recently, asks if I think COVID-19 is a hoax. Wifey is getting ready, still. We go up to the hot tub, it's pouring rain, windy, bath foam flying everywhere. Well, fast forward, and Wifey takes over. Bailarina gives good head, and has a think poundable frame. She and Wifey have an incredible chemistry, for two chicks that have spend about a half hour together. They are all over each other. Wifey was eating her out in the jacuzzi, then told us to go to the bed. Both girls were giving each other orgasms. I fucked Bailarina to finish, with a condom. It was great. I go to throw away the rubber and take a leak, and when I return, they are scissoring. This whole scissoring thing has been an eye opener. I thought scissoring was just for show, but these girls can get off on it. Back to the jacuzzi, and the girls can't keep their hands and mouths off each other. We go for round 2, round 3, what a night. Wifey has been falling out of love with Pinky, because she says I act different when she's here. I explained it's because we're comfortable together, and shit builds up during the week that I don't want to yell at Wifey about and make it awkward, but then after a few beers, and Pinky's ears being available, I unleash my displeasures.

So, Bailarina made for an incredible night and 100% she will be a repeat. Hopefully, at 250 k, next time, but it was well worth it at 300 k. Wifey and I partook in the tussi, and Bailarina abstained. I thought it was really cool that she was able to stand her ground, but not judge, and not make us feel weird about it. Wifey now understands how to manage the high / intake, and it was much better. We consumed much less and it lasted much longer. We ended up hanging out in the jacuzzi for a couple hours after Bailarina left. Good news is, Bailarina left her bikini. She will be back! Photos for your enjoyment.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2460374]It is a little ironic. I was married to a woman from Bogota for 9 years. Colombians can be loud when it comes to watching soccer or hanging out with the family, possibly playing a game. But they are not so loud, I've found, in public or around people they do not know. The average gringo does not seem to care. I have heard gringos (young and old) who are loud and use some pretty bad language. They do not seem to care where they are or who else is there. And of course they are speaking in English, so that may make it seem to be even louder, since it's a language most Colombians don't understand.

I am like a few other posters. I do not keep many gringo friends in Medellin. And most of them I do, we have discussions online, but do not meet and hang out. I prefer to pass time with hot, Colombian chicas, preferably in places most gringo tourists would never go. That said, if I'm in Lleras to have some shots and I see some gringos who are nice and calm and need a little hep with suggestions or language, I'm happy to help and speak to them. It's the obnoxious, loud, know-it-alls (after two trips, perhaps) that I avoid.[/QUOTE]I have been in Medellin for coming up on 10 years and I do not have ONE gringo / American friend here, only a few good Paisa buddies and a hundred paisa chicas, that's enough.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2460334]Given how expressive the Spanish are known to be, it's kind of funny to think that Americans in general could be louder than Colombians.[/QUOTE]In my experience Americans talk really loud compared to people from other countries (maybe some Chinese louder but not many other countries) and Colombians are not too loud. When it comes to Latinos making noise I think Dominicans are number 1 - they want everyone for 1 mile or more to hear their music and Colombians are nothing like that. Latinos are very different country to country and its a bad idea to stereotype based on the 1 country you know.

Wow this is called heaven good luck bro really impressed.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2460406]Wow, sorry to hear that Lugger, but glad you made it out unscathed. I always keep an eye on the other gringos in Centro, be them black, white, or green. I try to pick out mannerisms or behavior that each individual has that stand out from what I perceive to be a local's perspective, or what some no-good might be observing as they stalk their prey. I am an obvious gringo, but I tend to stick to some things that I never really put a ton of thought into, but are just natural. No jewelry, cross-trainer type shoes to not draw attention and to be able to run if needed, no sunglasses, limited phone use, as Knowledge said - try to position myself with something to my back, so there is one less direction to worry about defending, walk with a purpose and avoid walking thru crowds but don't walk on the outskirts like you're scared, puffy chest and chin up, and for whatever reason, I don't mind having a bottle of beer in my hand, and I hold it by the neck. I'm certainly not looking for trouble, but when I set my mind to go to Centro, I know that I am putting myself at more risk of finding trouble. Thus, I have a different frame of mind, and I'm ready for the fight or flight decision.

Anyway, I went to Exito Wow for the VAT day, and bought myself a computer monitor / small tv, for work. It's been great. I also bought Pinky a phone. It was pretty annoying. I had to wait in a separate line, to pay for the phone. I left my full cart by the exit, after having paid for everything. No one even looked at it. I got to the counter after about 20 minutes, and the kid tells me I need a Colombian cedula for the discount. I was pretty frustrated. The initial salesperson should know that, considering I'm a gringo. So, either the communication is poor or they don't care. I started arguing with the two cashiers, and came to realize a cedula needs to be shown. They took my ID and went to get approval. He returned to tell me to go to Information to get my ID approved. Information had 10 people in line, and when I got to the front, what was I going to say? Hey the guy 25 m away told me to come here and show my ID!? So I stormed back and had some lady behind me show her cedula. It boggles my mind how incredibly inconsiderate and stupid some people are. I am holding up a line of 20 people arguing over a cedula when all that needs to happen is some one with a cedula show it to them, and me get the fuck out of everyone's way.

I found out my noise complaint was a farce. A resident on the 2nd floor complained about the 3rd floor unit. The new portero thought it was 12 complaining about 13 (at 1 am). The older portero explained to me and apologized. The manager was disappointed and apologized. I actually approached my downstairs neighbor about it, speaking in Spanish, to find out he is an 87 yo gringo. He talked my ear off for over an hour! He has a younger Paisa wife who takes great care of him, and he loves it here. Really fascinating, but I tried 3 times to wiggle out to go to Exito, and couldn't get loose. I needed some of Lugnut's body oil! Anyway, I was relieved to know they didn't call the portero, and the big issue they have is my oscillating fan in the bedroom being loud (I am a very light sleeper, so it's strange, to me, but I believe them), and my 40 kg elephant of a wife walking around like she has ski boots on!

Internet provider cancelled appointments the last two days, which is getting extremely annoying. My new fire stick / IPTV is not working as I'd hoped. Watching Christmas Vacation, now, and it's not bad, but the soccer games have been pathetic. However, I streamed on my laptop, connected to the new 32" monitor, and it was perfect.

So, to the fun part. Wifey and I had a good looking 20 yo from SA cancel last minute on Friday. We weren't too happy. I hate the last-minute routine. She said she was sick, and sent a picture of a puffy eye. So, we were messaging some girls as I worked out and we grilled some chicken on the terrace. Wifey finally says, fuck it, it's you and me tonight. We hung out in the hot tub for a long time. We ended up having sex in the jacuzzi, then in the upstairs bedroom. When we finally went to bed, we had round two. I was going down on her for what seemed like and eternity. Then, we fucked. It was AMAZING. She said she didn't know how many times she orgasmed. It had to be 7 or 8 times. Insane, and she has been much more carinosa since that night! The girl from Friday messages, yesterday and says she is feeling better after some medication she had been taking. So, Wifey says let's do it. 8 p - 300 k. No rush. No limits. Oral sin. Sex con. She is a bailarina with hot photos. Baby face, a little thick, and we linked on Instagram so I have been watching her dance videos.

Wifey is on one, last night. She wanted some pussy. The girl shows, and we are chatting for 10-15 minutes. She, like another girl recently, asks if I think COVID-19 is a hoax. Wifey is getting ready, still. We go up to the hot tub, it's pouring rain, windy, bath foam flying everywhere. Well, fast forward, and Wifey takes over. Bailarina gives good head, and has a think poundable frame. She and Wifey have an incredible chemistry, for two chicks that have spend about a half hour together. They are all over each other. Wifey was eating her out in the jacuzzi, then told us to go to the bed. Both girls were giving each other orgasms. I fucked Bailarina to finish, with a condom. It was great. I go to throw away the rubber and take a leak, and when I return, they are scissoring. This whole scissoring thing has been an eye opener. I thought scissoring was just for show, but these girls can get off on it. Back to the jacuzzi, and the girls can't keep their hands and mouths off each other. We go for round 2, round 3, what a night. Wifey has been falling out of love with Pinky, because she says I act different when she's here. I explained it's because we're comfortable together, and shit builds up during the week that I don't want to yell at Wifey about and make it awkward, but then after a few beers, and Pinky's ears being available, I unleash my displeasures.

So, Bailarina made for an incredible night and 100% she will be a repeat. Hopefully, at 250 k, next time, but it was well worth it at 300 k. Wifey and I partook in the tussi, and Bailarina abstained. I thought it was really cool that she was able to stand her ground, but not judge, and not make us feel weird about it. Wifey now understands how to manage the high / intake, and it was much better. We consumed much less and it lasted much longer. We ended up hanging out in the jacuzzi for a couple hours after Bailarina left. Good news is, Bailarina left her bikini. She will be back! Photos for your enjoyment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2460406]Wow, sorry to hear that Lugger, but glad you made it out unscathed. I always keep an eye on the other gringos in Centro, be them black, white, or green. I try to pick out mannerisms or behavior that each individual has that stand out from what I perceive to be a local's perspective, or what some no-good might be observing as they stalk their prey. I am an obvious gringo, but I tend to stick to some things that I never really put a ton of thought into, but are just natural. No jewelry, cross-trainer type shoes to not draw attention and to be able to run if needed, no sunglasses, limited phone use, as Knowledge said - try to position myself with something to my back, so there is one less direction to worry about defending, walk with a purpose and avoid walking thru crowds but don't walk on the outskirts like you're scared, puffy chest and chin up, and for whatever reason, I don't mind having a bottle of beer in my hand, and I hold it by the neck. I'm certainly not looking for trouble, but when I set my mind to go to Centro, I know that I am putting myself at more risk of finding trouble. Thus, I have a different frame of mind, and I'm ready for the fight or flight decision.

Anyway, I went to Exito Wow for the VAT day, and bought myself a computer monitor / small tv, for work. It's been great. I also bought Pinky a phone. It was pretty annoying. I had to wait in a separate line, to pay for the phone. I left my full cart by the exit, after having paid for everything. No one even looked at it. I got to the counter after about 20 minutes, and the kid tells me I need a Colombian cedula for the discount. I was pretty frustrated. The initial salesperson should know that, considering I'm a gringo. So, either the communication is poor or they don't care. I started arguing with the two cashiers, and came to realize a cedula needs to be shown. They took my ID and went to get approval..[/QUOTE]What does 8 p means in this phrase "8 p - 300 k"? Only USD $80 for seeking arrangement girl? I thought it was more expensive than that.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2460406]

So, Bailarina made for an incredible night and 100% she will be a repeat. Hopefully, at 250 k, next time, but it was well worth it at 300 k. Wifey and I partook in the tussi, and Bailarina abstained. I thought it was really cool that she was able to stand her ground, but not judge, and not make us feel weird about it. Wifey now understands how to manage the high / intake, and it was much better. We consumed much less and it lasted much longer. We ended up hanging out in the jacuzzi for a couple hours after Bailarina left. Good news is, Bailarina left her bikini. She will be back! Photos for your enjoyment.[/QUOTE]I know who you're talking about and have spoken to her a bunch but never sessioned with her. She used to be tighter / thinner but good to know she is a solid provider.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2460406]The girl from Friday messages, yesterday and says she is feeling better after some medication she had been taking. So, Wifey says let's do it. 8 p - 300 k. No rush. No limits. Oral sin. Sex con. She is a bailarina with hot photos. Baby face, a little thick, and we linked on Instagram so I have been watching her dance videos.

[/QUOTE]Salute!! Nice report. Looks like a fun time.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2460492]What does 8 p means in this phrase "8 p - 300 k"? Only USD $80 for seeking arrangement girl? I thought it was more expensive than that.[/QUOTE]Just bullet points. 8:00 pm, but ISG plays with the text, sometimes. Yes, $80 for over 5 hours and a whole lot of fucking.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2460528]I know who you're talking about and have spoken to her a bunch but never sessioned with her. She used to be tighter / thinner but good to know she is a solid provider.[/QUOTE]Yes, it sounds like you do. I thought the same when she arrived, compared to photos, but she's a firm thick, and great personality.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2460492] Only USD $80 for seeking arrangement girl? I thought it was more expensive than that.[/QUOTE]The price depends on which union they belong to.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2460391]To Pollo Negro, you have my curiosity piqued. Are you OK with sharing more details about the altercation you mentioned?[/QUOTE]Without boring you to death, this is the bottom line, all of the girls in the park have to pay set fee to two guys in the park. I met these guys, and I told them straight up to their face in front of the police. I am Puerto Rican and Black, I don't pay anyone. No one extorts someone like me, you're are wasting your time, don't ask, don't assume, don't even think about it, I will never pay anyone anything to protect me, you will have to kill me first and then, what do you think they will do once you kill an American in this park?

My girlfriend's son had a phone of mine's, brand new, and the girl who is in charge of all of the Vennie's waited until he was using the phone one day in the park and she snatched the phone and demanded that he pay $20,000 pesos to get the phone back. He didn't have any pesos on him so she kept the phone. The next day I went to the park to look for her and she would not appear, but I told every one of her friends to tell her that I wanted my phone. The cops came and it was a real show. This is where and how things got extremely ugly.

The girl who snatched the phone had no idea that I had receipts for every phone that I have ever brought into the country, it is necessary to have this if you plan on bringing phones here, even as a gift because without it you cannot register the phone. I was making such uproar about the phone, strictly out of principle, that the cops called over the two guys who are in charge of the girls in the park. I could show them the receipt, the IEMI number, and photos of the girl who stole the phone. So the cops were explaining to them, that the girl could not come back to the park until the phone was returned or else she would be arrested. My girlfriend showed up, her son showed up, he told the cops exactly what I am telling you, that the girl snatched his phone and demanded that he pay her $20,000 pesos to return it.

I could really see that my girlfriend was extremely nervous about being around these guys and it was a really bad situation, but for me, it was the principle. About 13 guys surrounded me, and I was putting some distance between me and them. One guy tried to touch me, and I immediately told him if you touch me, I will break your arm, no if and or but, don't do it, and don't think about coming in arm length of me. These guys weapon of choice is the knife or machete. My thoughts were that one guy would try and hold me while the other one's took turns stabbing me, I have seen them in action, so trust me, I was on all alerts this night in the park. Shortly later my girlfriends brother showed up and he's pretty fit and about 6'2" and he immediately pulled out his machete and told everyone around that no one was touching Pollo Negro, and we left without a problem.

The next day, My girl was nervous and begged me not to return to the park. But you know me, and my behavior, so I did them all one favor better. I called my Colombian connect and went to Tigo and had the entire telephone Blacklisted and blocked using the IEMI number, so this really pissed every one in the park off, because now they had a useless phone other than using it to watch youtube and maybe whatsapp. So they began to call and try and offer the phone back, I told them to keep it and find someone who can unblock it if you can, but good luck.

So my girl explained to me, a new phone like the A20 Samsung, especially if it is built to work in the US, can sell in Venezuela easily for $1000 USD. The bosses in the park and the girl who snatched the phone had made plans to send the phone back and it looked like an easy process of just targeting my girlfriends son because they know he lives with a gringo and I treat him well. They know every thing about everyone who enters the park, trust me. Many times these guys have called my phone and trust me, I never gave them my number, but at the same time, they clearly saw that I was not the one to rob, extort, or take advantage of and they now know that every american isn't stupid and just travel to Medellin to buy girls and become easy targets. I am a business man from the ground up and they now know this. Even though the numbers may be back in Parque Botero, here is the real facts, it might be 350 girls in the park and only 6 customers, most of them are there for socialization and to beg and hope they get a date. If what I am saying is not true, they wouldn't be trying to rob their potential clients. Trust me, the quarantine has people doing desperate things to obtain money and food here in Medellin. I will end this by saying, be careful in the park, take every extra precaution and learn your surroundings. I still bang 3-4 chicas everyday, I just do not sit around in the park like I once did.

The President of Mexico was savagely roasted on Sabados Felices this weekend. Sabados Felices is sort of a Colombian version of the American TV show Saturday Night Live. It was really funny. A comic with an uncanny resemblance to President Lopez Obrador performed the skit wearing a sombrero. He and the woman who performed ddpostite him got plenty of laughs just from the physical comedy of their movements balancing the stereotypical sombreros and the exaggerated clipped Mexican accents they used. The central joke was Obrador Lopez's oblivious and doddering responses to any mention of coronavirus. He is still known as the bookend to Brazil's Bolsonaro as coronavirus deniers.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2460315]In very simple terms, and mentioned in what Duque said, was that until their is a vaccine, at least an effective one, that Colombia was 'hosed", and I think a lot of people have thrown in the towel meaning their at their wit's end (fuck it is all I hear now) as you mentioned, and that's what a lot of other Countries around the world think of the USA in how we have handled things meaning we have "given up".

I'm honestly ashamed at how were doing, and think we are the laughing stock of the world.

As a side note, you mentioned Mexico, and I experienced something I found perplexing this week, but perhaps should not of been given how things have been, or perhaps, not handled by Washington. I decided to go to Tijuana on Wednesday and all non-essential travel to Mexico has been banned by Washington for over a month now and was just recently extended. So I parked my car by the border and walked to the entry, I was expecting to see CBP personnel on the USA side advising people of the ban, along with postings that any non-essential travel was not allowed..[/QUOTE]

I walked through Ground zero and Plaza Botero a few days ago in the AM. I noticed lots of activity and no cops. Literally, that was the biggest difference that I noticed with the pre covid times. No cops in or around Plaza Botero. Probably, I just missed them and they were hiding somewhere. Surely, there are fewer of them in the area even though the activity is pretty much back to the pre covid levels.

I didn't plan to pick up anyone. I just decided to pass through the area out of curiosity. I had my passport on me. With the benefit of hindsight, I realize that was a silly thing to do.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2460608]The price depends on which union they belong to.[/QUOTE]You have to realize it is a buyers market at the moment a lot of desperate single mums who have partner that no income. $USD80 sets her and the kids up with food for a week and with a excellent porn star performance a good chance that you will be back to pay for next week shopping too. I expect things will even get better for mongering in the coming months. Avoid the union girls with fixed pricing they will soon get the message and find that with more hookers joining the workforce and less mongers with money. The laws of demand and supply will surely come into force.

These police officers, as well as municipal legislators and administrators, are on the gang's payroll. They work for the mafia, not for the people. That is why they are despised by the public. Basically the entire area, and the city, is effectually governed by crime organizations.

I do not question your brevity and strength, but it is not a good area for hanging around.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2460618]Without boring you to death, this is the bottom line, all of the girls in the park have to pay set fee to two guys in the park. I met these guys, and I told them straight up to their face in front of the police. I am Puerto Rican and Black, I don't pay anyone. No one extorts someone like me, you're are wasting your time, don't ask, don't assume, don't even think about it, I will never pay anyone anything to protect me, you will have to kill me first and then, what do you think they will do once you kill an American in this park?

My girlfriend's son had a phone of mine's, brand new, and the girl who is in charge of all of the Vennie's waited until he was using the phone one day in the park and she snatched the phone and demanded that he pay $20,000 pesos to get the phone back. He didn't have any pesos on him so she kept the phone. The next day I went to the park to look for her and she would not appear, but I told every one of her friends to tell her that I wanted my phone. The cops came and it was a real show. This is where and how things got extremely ugly.

The girl who snatched the phone had no idea that I had receipts for every phone that I have ever brought into the country, it is necessary to have this if you plan on bringing phones here, even as a gift because without it you cannot register the phone. I was making such uproar about the phone, strictly out of principle, that the cops called over the two guys who are in charge of the girls in the park. I could show them the receipt, the IEMI number, and photos of the girl who stole the phone. So the cops were explaining to them, that the girl could not come back to the park until the phone was returned or else she would be arrested. My girlfriend showed up, her son showed up, he told the cops exactly what I am telling you, that the girl snatched his phone and demanded that he pay her $20,000 pesos to return it..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlyOne;2460626]You have to realize it is a buyers market at the moment a lot of desperate single mums who have partner that no income. $USD80 sets her and the kids up with food for a week and with a excellent porn star performance a good chance that you will be back to pay for next week shopping too. I expect things will even get better for mongering in the coming months. Avoid the union girls with fixed pricing they will soon get the message and find that with more hookers joining the workforce and less mongers with money. The laws of demand and supply will surely come into force.[/QUOTE]Mr. Sly,

I know this is the MDE board but you used to be the man in Lima. I can get no info from that board. What have you heard?

[QUOTE=Junior11;2460621]I walked through Ground zero and Plaza Botero a few days ago in the AM. I noticed lots of activity and no cops. Literally, that was the biggest difference that I noticed with the pre covid times. No cops in or around Plaza Botero. Probably, I just missed them and they were hiding somewhere. Surely, there are fewer of them in the area even though the activity is pretty much back to the pre covid levels.

I didn't plan to pick up anyone. I just decided to pass through the area out of curiosity. I had my passport on me. With the benefit of hindsight, I realize that was a silly thing to do.[/QUOTE]Spot on observation, it use to be that the police / tourist police has a presence in that makeshift tent stationed right in front of the museum and there would be groups of usually 2 or 3 polices continually walking the Botero beat, maybe 3 or 4 even 5 or 6 at times different groups of these police BUT now no tent, you don't see any police, the special tourist police are gone, it is like the CHOP no police allowed that is in Seattle Washington, seriously I don't have a clue what happened to them, they are just gone.

If you decide to hang out around there be extra careful and stay alert. On Saturday I spent about 3 hours in and around Botero and the Vera and finally found a paisa chica whom I have known for 3 years and she is struggling like all the girls so I took her to that hotel Venicia (2nd floor at the corner behind the Vera). As soon as I finished I got the hell out of Dodge, licking-split.

The Tall Man.

OK, the part about what happened was short. Thanks for that. All this Botero Plaza talk the last few days got me curious again. Today I'm there watching some workers install a new lighted sign one the small pharmacy across from Tostao. I was impressed by their efficiency. Somebody yelling from Botero Plaza at one of the girls at ground zero caught my attention so I moved that way and notice the guy yelling is saying he wasn't going to do anything and she should not have said anything to the police. I get closer and fuck me if the turismo police haven't confiscated a freaking kitchen paring knife from this guy. I'm talking and 8 inch knife. I don't know how you stash something like that without stabbing yourself. Anyway, when I got there maybe half an hour earlier it was obvious that the police presence was way up in all parts of the plaza. I always enter from Parque Berrio where there are usually lots of cops anyway. Today there were more than usual. After the knife confiscation a police helicopter began making passes over the plaza. I had a Goodfellas flashback of the scene when Ray Liotta is all coked up and seeing surveillance aircraft all over the place, except I was not coked up and there really was a helicopter making passes. It seemed like the police might not have been an isolated situation involving Lugnut.

So Pollo, I am pretty sure I know the two guys you mentioned. I regret what happened to your Medellin family. I feel lucky I've been able to keep it simple there. I am with you about hanging out in the park for hours. I don't see the need. I do my business and move on mostly. Sometimes for entertainment I will watch the 3 card monte games because they remind me of Times Square in the 80's. I also get a kick out of listening to the line of bullshit of the con man vendors who sell worthless TV decoders that are supposed to get you all the national stations in perfect HD. When sales slow down, as they often do, they signal a shill who pretends to be interested and asks canned questions. So back to the girls, there is a steady flow of new venecas along with all the old not favorites. Progress on the bench replacement is ultra slow. They are getting replaced at the rate of one or less per week.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2460618]Without boring you to death, this is the bottom line, all of the girls in the park have to pay set fee to two guys in the park. I met these guys, and I told them straight up to their face in front of the police. I am Puerto Rican and Black, I don't pay anyone. No one extorts someone like me, you're are wasting your time, don't ask, don't assume, don't even think about it, I will never pay anyone anything to protect me, you will have to kill me first and then, what do you think they will do once you kill an American in this park?

My girlfriend's son had a phone of mine's, brand new, and the girl who is in charge of all of the Vennie's waited until he was using the phone one day in the park and she snatched the phone and demanded that he pay $20,000 pesos to get the phone back. He didn't have any pesos on him so she kept the phone. The next day I went to the park to look for her and she would not appear, but I told every one of her friends to tell her that I wanted my phone. The cops came and it was a real show. This is where and how things got extremely ugly...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forever18;2460492]Only USD $80 for seeking arrangement girl? I thought it was more expensive than that.[/QUOTE]$80 IS expensive in Colombia! Think about where you are, not where you come from.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2460315]But there was nothing, not a single sign or CBP personnel at the entrance or along the pathway into Mexico. Upon crossing the turnstile and entering I got to the immigration booth and was asked how long I was going to be there with not a single other question asked and they issued me a tourist card, I then walked about 15 feet, they checked my temperature, and was in. And it was the same returning back in the USA, no questions asked about how long I was there, what was I doing there, no temperature checks, only what was I bringing back.

Without going into any detail as to what was going on in Mexico, entering and exiting was like there was no Pandemic, yet all non-essential travel was banned yet no enforcement. This is what I found perplexing, but maybe I shouldn't of.[/QUOTE]Surfer, there are so many people crossing the border between Mexico and the USA Legally every day that closing the border was never realistic: for work, for school, for shopping. It is far more traveled than the USA and Canada. For a time, there was VERY little transmission of cases across the border. That may have changed as Texas is now the epicenter of the USA for Corona and maybe soon the world. I have been to Mexico 3 x since March and never had my temperature taken when returning to the USA.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2460315]In very simple terms, and mentioned in what Duque said, was that until their is a vaccine, at least an effective one, that Colombia was 'hosed", and I think a lot of people have thrown in the towel meaning their at their wit's end (fuck it is all I hear now) as you mentioned, and that's what a lot of other Countries around the world think of the USA in how we have handled things meaning we have "given up".

I'm honestly ashamed at how were doing, and think we are the laughing stock of the world.[/QUOTE]Well, for a country that considers itself the best in the world with the best most state of the art health care system, yes, the USA has performed miserably.

In the USA right now, Covid is spreading as badly now as it ever has. It has just slowed down in NYC while everywhere else is seeing huge rises particularly in the South, so much for the heat killing the virus. I am not defending Trump anymore: the rally was bird brained and the slow roll out of testing was awful, and the police issue? Yeesh.

For what it is worth, I give the USA a see. Once things got serious and the private sector was incentivized, testing kits are now being produced like crazy, and things are being handled much better now. Mexico and Brazil have handled things much worse, but the USA should have done much better.

Colombia is in a pickle though. There total lockdown has meant that Corona has not spread so much, and it means that there are going to be in the primary wave for much longer. I honestly do not know what they are going to do. The latest boneheaded move in Colombia was allowing Black Friday go on where people paid on taxes while shopping, and stores were flooded.

I think we can say now that what Germany and South Korea did is what everyone should follow: massive testing and selected isolation, but I am not sure if Colombia has the money or capacity to do massive testing.

I just people are so fed up with the so called experts saying one thing and then the other. You can find whatever POV you want on masks, distancing, and quarantines, and I think that has led to this fuck it phase.

If Colombia does not have the money or capacity to do massive testing, I really do not what they are supposed to do. Wait for a vaccine, that when it comes will probably be at best 50% effective, and keep everyone in quarantine while destroying the economy?

Up until four weeks ago, the notion that we had all the testing we needed in the USA was bullshit. The reason sports teams are opening up is because there is now capacity to test everyone.

I am just waiting to see more riots here and abroad. I am not sure if Colombia is a powder keg or not. It seems like people are suffering there a lot.

Was in Botero yesterday. I find myself going more often because it is one of the few spots in the City where there is actually some energy and people vibing during the quarantine, other than the times I find myself in the mountains. Was pretty dead with the bars closed and it being a holiday. That being said, there was still some talent out there. In total, probably 25% of the amount of people on a Friday.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2460374] I prefer to pass time with hot, Colombian chicas, preferably in places most gringo tourists would never go..[/QUOTE]I'm curious, what some of those places or types of places are?

I've been quarantining on a finca in a rural area for the last couple of months and just now looking at trying to get special permission to relocate myself back to Medellin. Curious how things are there at the moment, which of the casas in centro are currently open, and what the norms are these days. Hand sanitizer I assume, but are the girls actually presenting themselves wearing masks, or are things reasonably casual there? In the city is it compulsory to wear masks in public, and if so is that being enforced, are people generally free to move around or is it still pico and cedula and and hour of exercise. Sounds like most are restaurants functioning with takeaways, and most shops currently open, what's the general vibe, things sort of stable and slowly opening more or are people tense and afraid? I have read the earlier reports about Tinder girls, Plaza Botero, the Laureles apartments, all functioning and some reference to the centro casas now be open, just trying to get a better idea of basically what to expect.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2460800]Was in Botero yesterday. I find myself going more often because it is one of the few spots in the City where there is actually some energy and people vibing during the quarantine, other than the times I find myself in the mountains. Was pretty dead with the bars closed and it being a holiday. That being said, there was still some talent out there. In total, probably 25% of the amount of people on a Friday.[/QUOTE]That's why I always enjoy spending time in El Centro, the energy. Once you get over the initial shock, there's a certain flow to El Centro that you won't find in Laureles or Poblado.

Almost anywhere other than Poblado!

Bars, discos, restaurants.

La 70 (you will see some gringos, but not many).

La 33 (few gringos).

La 45 (few gringos).

Manrique (rarely any).

Aranjuez (rarely any).

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2460807]I'm curious, what some of those places or types of places are?[/QUOTE]

You'll probably just want to skip this. There's no sex at all.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2460700]Surfer, there are so many people crossing the border between Mexico and the USA Legally every day that closing the border was never realistic: for work, for school, for shopping. It is far more traveled than the USA and Canada. For a time, there was VERY little transmission of cases across the border. That may have changed as Texas is now the epicenter of the USA for Corona and maybe soon the world. I have been to Mexico 3 x since March and never had my temperature taken when returning to the USA.[/QUOTE]While the numbers are higher at the Mexican border, there was always a lot of daily crossing between the US and Canada. Of course there isn't the pedestrian traffic, but plenty of cars and trucks.

I cross the US / Canadian border 4 times a week, twice each way. Did it for 4. 5 years up until 3 years ago and have been doing it again for almost 5 months.

The trade war had already significantly reduced the truck traffic at the beginning of February. By my comparison, commercial traffic was about 50% less than 4 years ago. Personal traffic was also down. Since the border shutdown, I've seen 2 cars either entering or leaving Canada. Truck traffic dropped so much I was sent back to X-ray because they were bored and didn't have anything to do. That's literally what the CBP agent told me. My average wait used to be 15-20 minutes, and that's because I time my crossings for the lowest traffic volume. I've been hitting peak traffic with zero wait time.

Truck traffic is picking back up now. It has almost reached the pre COVID-19 level. Still no word on the other restrictions being lifted.

Canada frequently asks if I've experienced any symptoms, the US has never asked. The US didn't start requiring CBP to wear masks until 6 weeks ago. They did go through a period where they weren't taking and inspecting paperwork, Just a glance at the passport card and a few questions to identify you. If anything, the crossing back into the US has become much more relaxed.

[QUOTE]Well, for a country that considers itself the best in the world with the best most state of the art health care system, yes, the USA has performed miserably.

In the USA right now, Covid is spreading as badly now as it ever has. It has just slowed down in NYC while everywhere else is seeing huge rises particularly in the South, so much for the heat killing the virus. I am not defending Trump anymore: the rally was bird brained and the slow roll out of testing was awful, and the police issue? Yeesh. [/QUOTE]The US citizenry has a built-in immunity to objectivity. Facts aren't something most will consider. Fact is the US healthcare system has been crumbling for decades. You can still find the best doctors and the best treatment, if you have the pull. Otherwise, you're better off going to Tijuana, or Medellin.

Cases are currently surging in 17 states, including Oklahoma, California and Texas. It's interesting that the states which caught the most flak for their lockdowns have done the best. Look at Michigan. At this point, any hope of the US as a whole coming up with a coherent response is gone.

[QUOTE]For what it is worth, I give the USA a see. Once things got serious and the private sector was incentivized, testing kits are now being produced like crazy, and things are being handled much better now. Mexico and Brazil have handled things much worse, but the USA should have done much better. [/QUOTE]You're grading on a curve. Private industry response has been mostly excellent. I went into a local restaurant last night. There was a constant flow of take-out orders. They were sanitizing ink pens and the cash. All cash received was sanitized and laid out on the bar to dry. Seating was extremely limited and all the staff were wearing masks. Everywhere I go I see businesses taking action.

However, the government response has been a disaster. To make matters worse, the government rhetoric has been counter-productive. There are still people running around claiming it's a hoax, or they're bringing up the flu or Tuberculosis. And they're refusing to take precautions because the government keeps telling them precautions aren't necessary.

There's going to be one helluva hangover from this party.

[QUOTE]Colombia is in a pickle though. There total lockdown has meant that Corona has not spread so much, and it means that there are going to be in the primary wave for much longer. I honestly do not know what they are going to do. The latest boneheaded move in Colombia was allowing Black Friday go on where people paid on taxes while shopping, and stores were flooded. [/QUOTE]Here's a question. Was the theía Sin IVA an attempt to kick up the spread of the virus, in order to justify more extreme measures? Or was it just a stupid stunt to boost popularity?

[QUOTE]I think we can say now that what Germany and South Korea did is what everyone should follow: massive testing and selected isolation, but I am not sure if Colombia has the money or capacity to do massive testing.

I just people are so fed up with the so called experts saying one thing and then the other. You can find whatever POV you want on masks, distancing, and quarantines, and I think that has led to this fuck it phase.[/QUOTE]The experts have been pretty consistent. The problem has been that anyone in front of a microphone is considered an expert by too many people. Unfortunately, there are way too many microphones.

[QUOTE]If Colombia does not have the money or capacity to do massive testing, I really do not what they are supposed to do. Wait for a vaccine, that when it comes will probably be at best 50% effective, and keep everyone in quarantine while destroying the economy?

Up until four weeks ago, the notion that we had all the testing we needed in the USA was bullshit. The reason sports teams are opening up is because there is now capacity to test everyone.

I am just waiting to see more riots here and abroad. I am not sure if Colombia is a powder keg or not. It seems like people are suffering there a lot.[/QUOTE]As I've said before, the economy always recovers, the dead never do.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2460828]That's why I always enjoy spending time in El Centro, the energy. Once you get over the initial shock, there's a certain flow to El Centro that you won't find in Laureles or Poblado.[/QUOTE]I really expected it to be crazier and less safe. Growing up in NY and hanging out in Jamaica Queens, Chinatown, Bronx, Washington Heights, El Centro was tame. If you grew up in a city, there's no shock. NY, LA, SF. All have areas that look / feel way worse than El Centro.

That is correct. If you are from an isolated and privileged suburban background Centro is the scariest place in the world.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2460843]I really expected it to be crazier and less safe. Growing up in NY and hanging out in Jamaica Queens, Chinatown, Bronx, Washington Heights, El Centro was tame. If you grew up in a city, there's no shock. NY, LA, SF. All have areas that look / feel way worse than El Centro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2460694]$80 IS expensive in Colombia! Think about where you are, not where you come from.[/QUOTE]$80 is expensive in Colombia.

$80 is not expensive in Colombia for 4 rounds over 5-6 hours, and each round being for 2 people. Unless, you think $80 is expensive for that. In which case, $80 is expensive.

Comparatively, 8 rounds at New Life would be 440.000 COP. I paid 300.000 k, and will probably do so again, this weekend.

That's oral sin condon, DFK, GFE, etc etc.

[QUOTE=SlyOne;2460626]You have to realize it is a buyers market at the moment a lot of desperate single mums who have partner that no income. $USD80 sets her and the kids up with food for a week and with a excellent porn star performance a good chance that you will be back to pay for next week shopping too. I expect things will even get better for mongering in the coming months. Avoid the union girls with fixed pricing they will soon get the message and find that with more hookers joining the workforce and less mongers with money. The laws of demand and supply will surely come into force.[/QUOTE]And for a 20 yo single chick who lives at home, this allows her to buy a new photo editing app, a couple meals from Rappi, a new shirt, one of these new candy sugar-high children's drinks that all the girls are posting on social media about, echarge her cell phone data, and buy a couple taxi rides.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2460608]The price depends on which union they belong to.[/QUOTE]Amen. I had some decent experiences with the FB girls, the WA girls, but I have fortunately learned a lot, and made better contacts. In a pinch, I'll do the 250.000 WA / FB girl for one pop in an hour. However, knowing that the aforementioned all-night threesome is available at the same price. Why deal with the unions!? Obviously, better deals are to be had. I just don't spend as much time on it. Well, this trip, at least. Prior to arriving, I will spend hours upon hours doing the dirty work. When Wifey is here most days / nights and can pull on her own, for me, I just don't go searching for the deals as much as I focus on the experience.

I'm going to check out a brand new penthouse for sale, this afternoon. Oh, Wifey went home for the night to go celebrate her brother's birthday, so Pinky stopped by to pick up her phone. She told me bad news, she still has a little blood. I started laughing, because I already had it in my head that I just wanted a good blowjob, yesterday. So, it all worked it out. She said the portero made some off-the-cuff insulting comment to her about how I only pick up the phone when "viejas" AKA putas arrive. Kind of strange, and I'm not sure if I fully-grasped her story. It was the old guy who was a dick when I first moved in about quarantining. She quickly put him in his place about shutting up and doing his job, I guess. I'm on the fence about asking him if there's a problem, etc. As I've mentioned before, at length, I try to stay off the radar. Thus, it's unlikely I'll bring it up.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2460831]Almost anywhere other than Poblado!

Bars, discos, restaurants.

La 70 (you will see some gringos, but not many).

La 33 (few gringos).

La 45 (few gringos).

Manrique (rarely any).

Aranjuez (rarely any).[/QUOTE]Jajaja yeah, I'm not a fan of Poblado for exactly that reason. I've stayed in Laureles, Sabaneta, Envigado, Prado Centro, and El Centro.

Have not been to Manrique or Aranjuez. I'll have to check those places out.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2460873]$80 is expensive in Colombia.

$80 is not expensive in Colombia for 4 rounds over 5-6 hours, and each round being for 2 people. Unless, you think $80 is expensive for that. In which case, $80 is expensive.[/QUOTE]Would you consider it expensive for 1 round for 1 person?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2460893]Would you consider it expensive for 1 round for 1 person?[/QUOTE]I think cheap and expensive only come into existence when comparing. On top of it, the value of that experience could vary significantly from person to person. A guy in Mexico forum spent over $2000 to travel from US to Mexico City only to fuck a porn star he fancied. Is that expensive?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2460843]I really expected it to be crazier and less safe. Growing up in NY and hanging out in Jamaica Queens, Chinatown, Bronx, Washington Heights, El Centro was tame. If you grew up in a city, there's no shock. NY, LA, SF. All have areas that look / feel way worse than El Centro.[/QUOTE]How a places "looks" and "feels" often has little to do with actual risks or what dangers may be present. A lot of places "feel" safe until your number comes up, then one's perspective changes. Though there are plenty of dangers in the states, especially at night in high crime areas, foreigners in poor countries are targets in a special way. The thieves know what you are and you are on their radar. Though there is plenty of good advice here about staying alert and keeping as law a profile as possible.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2460873]
Amen. I had some decent experiences with the FB girls, the WA girls, but I have fortunately learned a lot, and made better contacts. In a pinch, I'll do the 250.000 WA / FB girl for one pop in an hour. However, knowing that the aforementioned all-night threesome is available at the same price. Why deal with the unions!? Obviously, better deals are to be had. I just don't spend as much time on it. Well, this trip, at least. Prior to arriving, I will spend hours upon hours doing the dirty work. When Wifey is here most days / nights and can pull on her own, for me, I just don't go searching for the deals as much as I focus on the experience.
[/QUOTE]I am not referring to a union with a pimp or leader like La Diabla. I think OP must have read about other reports with higher prices so I am telling the OP there are different prices. The price depends on the girls. Sometimes there are a group of girls who ask the same price because they may have heard about it from the same source so it is like a price union.

If she is who I think she is, she quoted me USD100. I did not talk to her after because I was just getting her contact for another member here. No question that you had a good deal but I would not assume that is a deal I can get. She is more like a FB girl but her price is set higher on SA. I also think mongers are not on SA to get cheaper price, freebie maybe, but it is usually more expensive.

[QUOTE=SlyOne;2460626]You have to realize it is a buyers market at the moment a lot of desperate single mums who have partner that no income.[/QUOTE]Maybe but the desperation is not obvious from the Covid Black Friday and the reports here except the recent El Centro reports. One girl told me Colombia is not USA. I think she was telling me that the current financial situation they are facing is nothing new.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2460843]I really expected it to be crazier and less safe. Growing up in NY and hanging out in Jamaica Queens, Chinatown, Bronx, Washington Heights, El Centro was tame. If you grew up in a city, there's no shock. NY, LA, SF. All have areas that look / feel way worse than El Centro.[/QUOTE]I grew up in a cornfield. Since then I've spent time, mostly working, in every major US city, although other than a wrong turn in the Bronx, I was mostly in the better areas. The real shock of El Centro was the crowds. My first real exploring day was one of those market days when everyone is out.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2460904]How a places "looks" and "feels" often has little to do with actual risks or what dangers may be present. A lot of places "feel" safe until your number comes up, then one's perspective changes. . Though there is plenty of good advice here about staying alert and keeping as law a profile as possible.[/QUOTE]I caught this on Google Street Maps this was at Avenue Maracaibo (Calle 53) between Carrera 46 and Carrera 47, you can see that one guy is getting ready to knife another guy. If you close at the photos you can see a white jacket the one guy has in the first photo (the photo with the truck's luggage rack dead center) blue shirt guy is standing directly behind the truck clutching the white jacket. Next photo is white shirted guy is pulling out the knife and has the jacket laying behind him and blue shirted guy is doubled over like he just got tagged. The next photo white shirt guy is full on knife fight stance and I am a little impressed that blue shirt guy has not just ran but he looks like a glue head so maybe he is not smart enough to know when to run. Then the final scene that Google captured, the one where you see the back of a white car, they are grappling with maybe the jacket and the knife.

I originally posted this months ago, and since then I have gone back to look and Google has changed the street view dates that are available to see and I cannot find it, but at the time I took a look around to see how people were responding to the situation and no one was even reacting except the guy in the baseball cap walking backs up at first as the guy is pulling out the knife but then he just looks like he is waiting to get by.

This was obviously locals seemingly fighting over a jacket but possible ready to kill over the jacket and I wonder if any of the El Centro regulars have seen this type of scraps before?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2460938]I caught this on Google Street Maps this was at Avenue Maracaibo (Calle 53) between Carrera 46 and Carrera 47, you can see that one guy is getting ready to knife another guy. [/QUOTE]I saw two young guys have a fist fight in Botero last week. In general, that area can be very depressing. A lot of people are walking around like zombies. The poor diet and stress from smoking, using drugs and being out in the street hustling shows on a lot of the chicas.

Daytime, I can go out there and chill. If it is night and I am by myself, I try to move with a purpose. But, I'm very rarely out there by myself at night.

Been in the mood to do some mongering lately, so I headed down to El Central again today. A lot more people out than yesterday. I'm starting to see 90% of the same chicas around Botero and Veracruz. A lot are not doable, or at least you wouldn't want to tell anyone you did it. The weekends seem to bring out a little better talent. It seems like some chicas are out there daily while others take days off here and there.

Saw an older tall white guy with a George Jefferson hairline trying to get away from getting groped by 2 or 3 trannies. I had to laugh. Seem like the trannies have spread out a bit more geographically. Perhaps the ones from Parque Bolivar are also around Botero now.

I talked to one chica who was pretty cute with a nice body and a cinnamon skin tone but we could not come to an agreement so I kept it movin. Decided to hit El Raudal since I haven't been down there in a minute. Saw a chica with an incredible body but didn't make it over by her. If I see her again, its on. Walked around a bit more and got with a chica on that side. She was standing in one of the doorways and when I walked by she called me over and said she would suck me raw and lick my balls. This is what I wanted to hear. She wanted 40 and off we went. The hotel room had air conditioning which was surprising. Also, she flicked on the TV and it was playing porn.

She gave me a good ball licking and aggressive head job. I was about to ask her if she wanted me to bust in her mouth but she stopped to grab the condom. I asked her why and she said she could taste the cum starting to drip out of my cock. She had huge boobs and a decent ass. She wanted missionary first and she was pretty wild. Then I hit it back door and she told me she wanted it deep and hard. 20 minutes later I busted.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2460956]She gave me a good ball licking and aggressive head job. I was about to ask her if she wanted me to bust in her mouth but she stopped to grab the condom. I asked her why and she said she could taste the cum starting to drip out of my cock. She had huge boobs and a decent ass. She wanted missionary first and she was pretty wild. Then I hit it back door and she told me she wanted it deep and hard. 20 minutes later I busted.[/QUOTE]Good one!

I've been to El Centro twice since Friday's knife incident. Saturday at 1100 it was not nearly as busy as Friday afternoon had been. I took three slow laps through Botero and Veracruz but nobody caught my eye. Monday at the same time I went also, knowing that it would be a ghost town on Festivo, which is was, relatively. But I like searching for those gems.

Tomorrow one of the cuties that sells coffee in Parque Berrio is coming over to my apartment. A few weeks ago I stood at the top of the stairs above Berrio and picked the prettiest Venezuelan coffee girl, and went down to buy a cup and say Hello,. We've been flirting with each other since then and tomorrow it's on. Of course, with these girls, I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm hopeful that there will be a report to follow tomorrow evening. She's really cute and has a big smile and positive energy.

Today I also found a new apartment. I checked out three and one really stood out to me. I'm looking forward to moving in soon and getting a fresh start.

Not funny. That is 2-3 guys checking the white guy's pockets. The guy is getting robbed. Some of you people do not belong in Centro. You have no idea what is happening.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2460956]Saw an older tall white guy with a George Jefferson hairline trying to get away from getting groped by 2 or 3 trannies. I had to laugh. Seem like the trannies have spread out a bit more geographically. Perhaps the ones from Parque Bolivar are also around Botero now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2460894]I think cheap and expensive only come into existence when comparing. On top of it, the value of that experience could vary significantly from person to person. A guy in Mexico forum spent over $2000 to travel from US to Mexico City only to fuck a porn star he fancied. Is that expensive?[/QUOTE]Well it is definitely a comparison thing. Nothing is either sweet or sour when there is nothing to compare it to. If you compared the amount she got paid to do a movie ($500-$1000) with the amount he spent to fuck her ($2000), then I would say he would have come out much cheaper hiring her to do a movie and fucking her in that. He would have actually made money then, because he could have sold the movie!

No not massage or happy ending spas. I am in Barranquilla and based on the map there is 15 Spas. 2 are closed with For Rent signs (Holistico and Bamboo). Elite opened for 2 weeks then closed again for 3 weeks now. 7 are open: 3 Relax sites, Perfect Time, Beautiful Lady, Paradise, and Zero Stress. So half are open for now. The others have no online advertisements so I see no reason to make a personal trip to verify what I am 95% sure they are closed. I have walked to all of these and never been bothered by police. Curious about the situation in Medellin.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2460938]This was obviously locals seemingly fighting over a jacket but possible ready to kill over the jacket and I wonder if any of the El Centro regulars have seen this type of scraps before?[/QUOTE]Much worse than that. See this old report of mine "Night street scenes in El Centro" dated 2008:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=807816&viewfull=1#post807816[/URL]
Surfer500 will like to read this old report, if he forgot it.

SIGH! I was 12 years younger, discovering this new world of Colombia, venturing out at Centro strolling the streets at 2am doing "social exploration", amazed by that alien world and trying to emulate the King of South America Tungurahua and his mythical posts from Quito and beyond.

Over the last years, I have been increasingly perplexed by seeing more and more reports here kind of "legitimizing" the Centro, almost encouraging people to go and enjoy like if it was nothing. No, in general it is NOT a good idea to go there and exhibit ourselves evidently foreigners. I say that, and I am one who likes to go and explore anywhere. I took my risks and I was also robbed a couple times (entirely my fault). The only reasonable way to stay safe and out of troubles is 1) blend and do not put yourself under spotlight; 2) show yourself busy; 3) [I]"No dar papaya"[/I].

As it was easily predictable, examples of robberies or attempts were reported here recently. Many more must have happened, but were not reported. The real problem is that more and more unaware people reads reports here and gets the impression that "if they go there, I can go too". 99% of people in Centro is ok, but the problem is the 1% who does not mind using a knife to get what he desperately needs. It is important to keep in mind that ANY foreigner, it does not matter how badly dressed, bald or with long pony tail, is seen by those 1% as a walking ATM, most likely with more money in pockets than anyone else in a 5 km radius.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461057] The real problem is that more and more unaware people reads reports here and gets the impression that "if they go there, I can go too". 99% of people in Centro is ok, but the problem is the 1% who does not mind using a knife to get what he desperately needs. It is important to keep in mind that ANY foreigner, it does not matter how badly dressed, bald or with long pony tail, is seen by those 1% as a walking ATM, most likely with more money in pockets than anyone else in a 5 km radius.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with that, most of the time, it's going to be fine. It's a small percentage where things go wrong. If you grew up near any major city, this is nothing new. I go to El Centro to walk around, do some shopping, get lunch. Middle of the day and never had an issue, the store employees are always very polite and welcoming and I've even found the two best English speakers in Medellin at shoe stores in Centro, weird.

Depends what your plans are but I rarely leave the house with more than 200 k. If I'm going to Centro for a couple of hours, I may only take 100 k. I can get lunch (10 k), buy a pair of shoes (50 k), buy a bag full of fruit (10 k) and still have left over. I plan to monger but never found anything I like. Every time I've been in Centro, I see numerous small groups of Europeans, or other Americans, or couples. All wearing shorts, flip flops, camera out around the neck, clearly tourists.

Basically, don't be an idiot and don't carry more than you're willing to lose and there should be no problem.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2461065]Totally agree with that, most of the time, it's going to be fine. It's a small percentage where things go wrong. .............[/QUOTE]I've traveled all over the world and the only place where I've been physically accosted was in El Centro Medellin. Some years ago I had my phone out taking photos and two guys came up to me one of whom grabbed my phone in public with many people around, no weapon was brandished and I held on to the phone shouting loudly "Policia!". They walked away. People barely looked and none with any appearance of shock or surprise. The other time I was seated on a bench in Botero park and a female druggie asked me for money which I refused, she socked me one on the chin and ran away. She packed quite a whallop. About half an hour later I saw her running with police in hot pursuit. Never a dull moment in El Centro.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2460938]I caught this on Google Street Maps this was at Avenue Maracaibo (Calle 53) between Carrera 46 and Carrera 47, you can see that one guy is getting ready to knife another guy. If you close at the photos you can see a white jacket the one guy has in the first photo (the photo with the truck's luggage rack dead center) blue shirt guy is standing directly behind the truck clutching the white jacket. Next photo is white shirted guy is pulling out the knife and has the jacket laying behind him and blue shirted guy is doubled over like he just got tagged. The next photo white shirt guy is full on knife fight stance and I am a little impressed that blue shirt guy has not just ran but he looks like a glue head so maybe he is not smart enough to know when to run. Then the final scene that Google captured, the one where you see the back of a white car, they are grappling with maybe the jacket and the knife.

I originally posted this months ago, and since then I have gone back to look and Google has changed the street view dates that are available to see and I cannot find it, but at the time I took a look around to see how people were responding to the situation and no one was even reacting except the guy in the baseball cap walking backs up at first as the guy is pulling out the knife but then he just looks like he is waiting to get by.

This was obviously locals seemingly fighting over a jacket but possible ready to kill over the jacket and I wonder if any of the El Centro regulars have seen this type of scraps before?[/QUOTE]Saw 2 young guys beating on a homeless guy and taking a cellphone from his pocket alongside the Veracruz church one night about 9:30. Later saw the homeless guy walking through Botero Plaza. My thoughts were that the homeless guy had stolen the phone from someone and the 2 guys were stealing it from him.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461057]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=807816&viewfull=1#post807816[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this again. Interesting that you paid 20 k + 4 k for a chica, which hasn't changed much. Whereas the airport taxi was 48 k then but 80 k now.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461057]
I took my risks and I was also robbed a couple times (entirely my fault). The only reasonable way to stay safe and out of troubles is 1) blend and do not put yourself under spotlight; 2) show yourself busy; 3) [I]"No dar papaya"[/I].
[/QUOTE]Definitely useful advice but a bit harsh on yourself to victim-blame.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461057]
As it was easily predictable, examples of robberies or attempts were reported here recently. Many more must have happened, but were not reported. The real problem is that more and more unaware people reads reports here and gets the impression that "if they go there, I can go too". 99% of people in Centro is ok, but the problem is the 1% who does not mind using a knife to get what he desperately needs. It is important to keep in mind that ANY foreigner, it does not matter how badly dressed, bald or with long pony tail, is seen by those 1% as a walking ATM, most likely with more money in pockets than anyone else in a 5 km radius.[/QUOTE]I will definitely try to remember this next time I am able to visit there.

Loving this time before borders open and these dudes come to Meddy. [URL]https://youtu.be/xaoBdmZxC6E[/URL]

Thought about this seeing people discussing price in the thread lol

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2461109]Thanks for sharing this again. Interesting that you paid 20 k + 4 k for a chica, which hasn't changed much. Whereas the airport taxi was 48 k then but 80 k now.[/QUOTE]Are you arguing that I overpaid at that time? LOL maybe. I am never stingy with girls, and sometimes they take advantage.

I also paid 50 k a girl smelling glue in San Diego, but that was a totally different story (duly reported here). She become kind of my "girlfriend" over multiple visits in MDE, she arranged another girl, and we had many many adventures in the dark night (this is for Surfer500).

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2461109]Definitely useful advice but a bit harsh on yourself to victim-blame.[/QUOTE]Really not. I said it was my fault, because I did something imprudent and I paid the price. I did imprudent things many times, but one cannot be safe all times. Sooner or later, you catch the incident.

One time, I showed my wallet to give some money to a girl who was begging in the street (6pm on La 19 in Bogota).

Another, I went with a girl looking too smart since the beginning to a small hotel in a alley of Medellin Centro at 1am or something. She took a knife from her pocket in the room and took all my money (less than 100k) even searching in my shoes. Why I did not resist? Because if I you are in a room of a small hotel at night in Centro then you are fully at disposal of the guys there. Last thing I wanted was to be accused to rape the girl or assault her. Better give up the 80k and keep my ass clean and safe.
(I left the room after the girl, and the portero asked me with an evil smile "problemas?")

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461110]Loving this time before borders open and these dudes come to Meddy.
Thought about this seeing people discussing price in the thread lol[/QUOTE]
What amazes me is whether this guy was fliyng alone on an airplane all for himself, or he really does not care about other people listening to his masterclass on P4P.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461121]Are you arguing that I overpaid at that time? LOL maybe. I am never stingy with girls, and sometimes they take advantage.[/QUOTE]In 2008 I wouldn't have even been able to point to Colombia on a map, I don't know what the market rate was then! But it does seem that while gringos are seen as wealthy, the chicas in El Centro don't particularly try to overcharge. In contrast to Parque Lleras where prices in dollars can be quoted.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461121]
Another, I went with a girl looking too smart since the beginning to a small hotel in a alley of Medellin Centro at 1am or something. She took a knife from her pocket in the room and took all my money (less than 100k) even searching in my shoes. Why I did not resist? Because if I you are in a room of a small hotel at night in Centro then you are fully at disposal of the guys there. Last thing I wanted was to be accused to rape the girl or assault her. Better give up the 80k and keep my ass clean and safe.
(I left the room after the girl, and the portero asked me with an evil smile "problemas?")
[/QUOTE]Does the evil smile mean he was in on it? What's the lesson here? To not let the chica choose the short-time hotel? Well done for managing to come out of it without getting hurt.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461110]Loving this time before borders open and these dudes come to Meddy. [URL]https://youtu.be/xaoBdmZxC6E[/URL]

Thought about this seeing people discussing price in the thread lol[/QUOTE]He's happy to pay 200 dollars a time, so he won't be frequenting El Centro any time soon! However he looks well built, he'd be useful to walk around El Centro with from the point of view of safety.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2460974]Not funny. That is 2-3 guys checking the white guy's pockets. The guy is getting robbed. Some of you people do not belong in Centro. You have no idea what is happening.[/QUOTE]That is pretty dangerous. If there is a group of them, the others will join like a feeding frenzy after one has initiated the attack.

Lucy the 24 yo Venezuelan tinto thermos girl from Parque Berrio arrived at 1030 am. It took some messaging, can you pay, from where do I take a taxi, from what metro station et cetera. But she made it. (I gave her 30 mil for taxis on the way out.).

She had clothes on as I had asked; tight black pants and a shirt. Great attitude the whole time, we ate leftover pizza and wine from D1. She's 24, she's got a solid mom-bod, if you know what I mean. Very outgoing and she loves sex work, it's her preferred work. Says that she worked a lot in Lleras before the quarantine.

We headed to the bedroom and shared her joint. Then started to strip down, I knew I was going to have a good time. She gave me an amazing blowjob, deep throat, stroking, backing off just when she had to so that I wouldn't pop. I gave her the vibrator and she carefully checked out all the modes and she was stoked, and got to work. I was shooting videos and after a while, she had the bulb end of the massage vibrator (maybe 60% the size of an original Hitachi), inside her pussy, she was vibing the inside of her pussy and pulling it out and then deep throat the vibrator, as I fingered her g-spot. Then after some work and plenty of lube, she had the bulb in her ass as I was taking video. Pretty cool.

She blew me some more and had a great session, pounding away in various positions, I'the take breaks with her deepthroat me and she was back using the vibrator, alternating between oral and fucking. Eventually after a long session in doggy, she was sucking me and I told her I was getting close, and popped in her mouth, at that point she laid black and played with my load with her fingers and mouth. Lucy is very open minded and down for anything. Emphasis on Everything. And those are her words and her emphasis. It was a standout session for me.

She ate a second piece of leftover pizza and she got ready to head back to Parque Berrio. We had not made an agreement on money before her coming. I gave her 100 mil and 30 mil taxis and she was thrilled. She said that she had not had a gringo client nor been in a nice apartment in a long time. She left after 3. 75 hours. I rate Lucy a 6 body with a great face, and 10 attitude and 10 willingness. Definitely on the repeat list at this time.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461057]Much worse than that. See this old report of mine "Night street scenes in El Centro" dated 2008:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=807816&viewfull=1#post807816[/URL]
Surfer500 will like to read this old report, if he forgot it.

SIGH! I was 12 years younger, discovering this new world of Colombia, venturing out at Centro strolling the streets at 2am doing "social exploration", amazed by that alien world and trying to emulate the King of South America Tungurahua and his mythical posts from Quito and beyond.

Over the last years, I have been increasingly perplexed by seeing more and more reports here kind of "legitimizing" the Centro, almost encouraging people to go and enjoy like if it was nothing. No, in general it is NOT a good idea to go there and exhibit ourselves evidently foreigners. I say that, and I am one who likes to go and explore anywhere. I took my risks and I was also robbed a couple times (entirely my fault). The only reasonable way to stay safe and out of troubles is 1) blend and do not put yourself under spotlight; 2) show yourself busy; 3) [I]"No dar papaya"[/I].[/QUOTE]What I have personally observed in El Centro along with what I have read on this board for several years is pretty much a recurring theme when it comes to being robbed, whether it's a foreigner or locals. It's always the same issues that are raised, and the passing of time really hasn't changed much in that regards, however the biggest change has been with the invasion of all the Venezuelans, and I am perplexed / skeptical of some of the reports as of lately regarding Botero Park. The stories of hundreds of girls there throughout the day with little to no clients, phones being stolen, that's a given.

However a previous report a few months back said that all the girls were reporting to one girl, whose picture was posted, and now it's been posted that two guys are in charge of Botero Park. I know there are bad guys there with knives, everybody has them, but find it hard to believe that the majority of the Venezuelan women would defer or report to others in the Park as I see them having no benefit in doing so unless someone can explain this. Maybe it's a Venezuelan thing, as I'm not aware of the Colombians operating this way at ground zero.

Given the Pandemic and the dire straits people are in, I would think it would be each working girl for themselves versus being beholden to someone.

I lost all reasoning when I read the George Jefferson description. Here it is a day later and it still makes me laugh out loud.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2460974]Not funny. That is 2-3 guys checking the white guy's pockets. The guy is getting robbed. Some of you people do not belong in Centro. You have no idea what is happening.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2461140]That is pretty dangerous. If there is a group of them, the others will join like a feeding frenzy after one has initiated the attack.[/QUOTE]Fuck yeah it is. But these clowns will point fingers at gringos and ***** about the prices. They used to get great prices in Hunts Point too back in New York.

Stay away from El Centro if you are not local. 8.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2461176]Stay away from El Centro if you are not local. 8.[/QUOTE]Locals themselves definitely consider El Centro to be dangerous. Shortly before the quarantine, my girlfriend was heading home on the back of a moto at about 10 pm. Right as they pulled up to her building, a second moto pulled up with two guys, the passenger had a pistol, they robbed the driver of my girlfriend's moto of his wallet, his cellular, and his moto, and the two robbers drove off on the two bikes. My girlfriend had her hands on her keys as they pulled up so she was able to quickly get inside the gate to her building. And, they called the police but they never responded nor took a report; the police said they would respond if the owner ever finds his bike.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2461131]1) Does the evil smile mean he was in on it?
2) What's the lesson here? To not let the chica choose the short-time hotel?
3) Well done for managing to come out of it without getting hurt.[/QUOTE]1) Probably, and this reinforced my first on-spot assessment that the wisest thing to do was to comply (politely and nicely) to the requests of the girl, even if the knife was small and I could block her hand in a second.

2) No lesson. Sometime you can choose the hotel, sometimes not. This Centro area is not a club. It's wild forest. If you voluntarily enter, you must comply with the environment. If you take a girl from Centro, you will not know a place at 100 m distance unless you are expert of the area. Are you not expert of the place? Then don't go, or expose moderately to risks while you build your experience.

3) Yes, I congratulated with myself also at that time, but lots of adrenaline once I exited the gate and reached the street, believe me. I learned from adventure movies (LOL) that in these situations the more quiet and calm one is, the better is for everyone. When 3 slum boys tried to rob me with knife in Bogota (6pm 19a con Caracas), I managed to keep them calm by quietly talking and offering my collaboration (Tranquilo, que pasa? Que quieres? Quieres plata?) until they ran away without anything. More or less the same approach that Rangers advise to hikers who meet a black bear on a trail.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2460956]
Saw an older tall white guy with a George Jefferson hairline trying to get away from getting groped by 2 or 3 trannies. I had to laugh. Seem like the trannies have spread out a bit more geographically. Perhaps the ones from Parque Bolivar are also around Botero now.[/QUOTE]I love to self-cite myself! After reading this, I cannot refrain to repeat here something I posted years ago.
This old post of mine came back to my mind, posted in the far 2012 in the Bogota thread:

[B]Beware of cosquilleros![/B]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1250156&viewfull=1#post1250156[/URL]

As I concluded there:
[I]Beware of cosquilleros!
(and, it does not matter if a TV is touching your cock or putting a finger in your ass, never extract your hands from your pockets) [/I]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2461174]I lost all reasoning when I read the George Jefferson description. Here it is a day later and it still makes me laugh out loud.[/QUOTE]Still I miss to understand something: who is George Jefferson?
I mean, that guy was looking like the US President or the TV character?
(TV=TELEVISION, not TRANSVESTITE).

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2461195]Locals themselves definitely consider El Centro to be dangerous. Shortly before the quarantine, my girlfriend was heading home on the back of a moto at about 10 pm. Right as they pulled up to her building, a second moto pulled up with two guys, the passenger had a pistol, they robbed the driver of my girlfriend's moto of his wallet, his cellular, and his moto, and the two robbers drove off on the two bikes. My girlfriend had her hands on her keys as they pulled up so she was able to quickly get inside the gate to her building. And, they called the police but they never responded nor took a report; the police said they would respond if the owner ever finds his bike.[/QUOTE]Two guys on a motorcycle, I know that one well.

Several months ago while walking with one of my Chica's in a heavy downpour in Poblado two guys pulled up on a motorcycle, drew a gun to my Chica's head, said give me your bag or will shoot, she handed it over and off they went and didn't bother with me. All of this happened in no more than 15 seconds which I posted about.

Every Colombian I have known has said what you stated, that they consider El Centro to be dangerous.

Movin' on up, to the East Side, to a de-luxe apartment in the sky.

See the Urban Dictionary for further details.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461200]Still I miss to understand something: who is George Jefferson?
I mean, that guy was looking like the US President or the TV character?.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461200]Still I miss to understand something: who is George Jefferson?

(TV=TELEVISION, not TRANSVESTITE).[/QUOTE]He said george Jefferson hairline, here is the TV character;.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2461205]See the Urban Dictionary for further details.[/QUOTE]I checked the UD for "George Jefferson" and I found this:

"The act of urinating on your sexual partner, starting at the crotch and "movin' on up" to the face".

This Medellin thread never ceases to positively surprise me. Best of ISG. In the middle of a worldwide lockdown, when P4P activities are minimized and all ISG threads are dead for lack of material, here the posting activity keeps frantic.

This week we have also learned that if you walk in El Centro and two guys on motorcycle approach, with one looking as George Jefferson (still unclear if the US President or the TV character) trying to urinate on you while the other drives, then you are in big trouble, but do not try to run away because 3 trannies may chase you over. Wooooof what a difficult world!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461279]This Medellin thread never ceases to positively surprise me. Best of ISG. In the middle of a worldwide lockdown, when P4P activities are minimized and all ISG threads are dead for lack of material, here the posting activity keeps frantic.

This week we have also learned that if you walk in El Centro and two guys on motorcycle approach, with one looking as George Jefferson (still unclear if the US President or the TV character) trying to urinate on you while the other drives, then you are in big trouble, but do not try to run away because 3 trannies may chase you over. Wooooof what a difficult world![/QUOTE]Never a dull moment here, and yes, other posters have made the same remarks as you, not that a George Jefferson look alike and an accomplice are cruising around El Centro on a Harley looking for she-males to piss on, but that there is actually some hardcore mongering going on by those in Medellin, where as in other parts of the World it's fairly quiet.

I'm just waiting now for a sighting of Darth Vader in Botero Park, and will either have to wait until Haloween, or your return to town. I know the Sacaleros will rejoice upon hearing of the return of Darth Vader.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2460528]I know who you're talking about and have spoken to her a bunch but never sessioned with her. She used to be tighter / thinner but good to know she is a solid provider.[/QUOTE]Just curious, how do you know that she used to be tighter if you never banged her?

Are facebook chicas still throwing out citas? I'm hoping none of my favorite hoes starve to death before the general state of affairs allows foreigners in without quarantine. Sigh.

We have not as yet seen Darth Vader but Thor and the Mystery Miner made an appearance two weeks ago. You can make out part of Thor's profile behind the Mystery Miner. The most entertaining of this crew for me is the transvestite Harley Quinn who showed up three months ago just before the quarantine.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2461324]Never a dull moment here, and yes, other posters have made the same remarks as you, not that a George Jefferson look alike and an accomplice are cruising around El Centro on a Harley looking for she-males to piss on, but that there is actually some hardcore mongering going on by those in Medellin, where as in other parts of the World it's fairly quiet.

I'm just waiting now for a sighting of Darth Vader in Botero Park, and will either have to wait until Haloween, or your return to town. I know the Sacaleros will rejoice upon hearing of the return of Darth Vader.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2461333]Are facebook chicas still throwing out citas? I'm hoping none of my favorite hoes starve to death before the general state of affairs allows foreigners in without quarantine. Sigh.[/QUOTE]Quite a few of the Facebook girls are actively selling videos and advertising. Several others who aren't advertising they are selling videos have stepped up the game on the photos they are posting. Fortunately, Facebook's Colombia division doesn't do much to censor the posts.

I bought videos from a few, who then sent my WhatsApp to all their friends. All of the "buy my videos" requests can get annoying, but I've added a bunch of possibilities for next visit.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2461347]
I bought videos from a few.[/QUOTE]What kind of vids? Do you post them?

Any real difference between photoprepagos and mileroticos?

The kind of vids you can get for free on pornhub etc. Minus the been with her / want to be with her fantasies and the "gracias 'mor te atendere súper bien cuando vienes" okey doke routine.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461392]What kind of vids? Do you post them?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461279] (still unclear if the US President or the TV character)[/QUOTE]I showed you a photo but just to be clear; There has never been a USA President named George Jefferson, there has been George Washington and two George Bush and there has been a Thomas Jefferson (made the best land deal in at least the history of the USA and maybe the world.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2460905]I am not referring to a union with a pimp or leader like La Diabla. I think OP must have read about other reports with higher prices so I am telling the OP there are different prices. The price depends on the girls. Sometimes there are a group of girls who ask the same price because they may have heard about it from the same source so it is like a price union.

If she is who I think she is, she quoted me USD100. I did not talk to her after because I was just getting her contact for another member here. No question that you had a good deal but I would not assume that is a deal I can get. She is more like a FB girl but her price is set higher on SA. I also think mongers are not on SA to get cheaper price, freebie maybe, but it is usually more expensive..[/QUOTE]We're referring to the same thing. The FB friends that all charge the same amount for an over-priced short-time experience. The WA pimp that offers all the girls at the same price, for the same aforementioned experience. The part-timers that hold firm on their price, despite it being a pandemic lockdown with no influx of one-week tourists willing to pay that price. Etc etc etc.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2460893]Would you consider it expensive for 1 round for 1 person?[/QUOTE]300.000 COP, or $80.50, today, is expensive for 1 round for 1 person. I have paid more, I have paid less. If I'm paying that amount, I'm expecting more than a 1-hour /1-pop routine. That being said, if a guy is here, doesn't have a great lay of the land, but has the coin and the desire, it's not an insane off-the-wall price. It's cheaper than any first offer you will receive in Gusto's. The bailarina is at a finca, this week, so we'll probably repeat her next weekend. I might do some digging, tonight, to find something for tomorrow or Saturday. Pinky is messaging but Wifey is over the honeymoon phase, with her. Although, she said Pinky can come visit me whenever Wifey goes to see her family; which is exactly what has been happening, every time she leaves.

I don't know about others, but I genuinely expected to be receiving more "hola" messages, these days. I get the occasional random message, but I don't sense any desperation. Maybe I'm just not in contact with the right chicas.

Oh, I saw an $800,000+ penthouse the other day. I didn't realize it was 5 bedrooms, and two entire floors. It would take a hell of a lot of furniture purchases to get that place looking nice. Jacuzzi for about 10-12 people, a mother-in-law quarters, as I dubbed it, that was only accessible from the upstairs jacuzzi terrace. I was shocked at the price, but it was pretty fucking big, and a view from Itagui to Bello. 3 of the bedrooms had only 1 or 2 windows, which I thought was truly strange on the 18th-19th floor of a high rise building with amazing views. It also just seems to be smack-dab in the middle of every building in Casacol / Poblado. I was imagining 5 gringos renting that place out as an expensive all-out type of week party hub, and having thousands of eyes on them, at all times.

My manager just messaged me saying the owner is wondering if I can pay July / August, up front. Remember, I had offered to pay 45 days up front, then second 45 days, as a 3 month lease. She said one month at a time. Strange.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461392]What kind of vids? Do you post them?[/QUOTE]Nude, masturbating, some with dildos or vibrators. Some with 2 girls. They vary in quality and length. I'm not posting them anywhere at this time.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2461414]Oh, I saw an $800,000+ penthouse the other day. I didn't realize it was 5 bedrooms, and two entire floors. It would take a hell of a lot of furniture purchases to get that place looking nice. Jacuzzi for about 10-12 people, a mother-in-law quarters, as I dubbed it, that was only accessible from the upstairs jacuzzi terrace. I was shocked at the price, but it was pretty fucking big, and a view from Itagui to Bello. 3 of the bedrooms had only 1 or 2 windows, which I thought was truly strange on the 18th-19th floor of a high rise building with amazing views. It also just seems to be smack-dab in the middle of every building in Casacol / Poblado. I was imagining 5 gringos renting that place out as an expensive all-out type of week party hub, and having thousands of eyes on them, at all times.

My manager just messaged me saying the owner is wondering if I can pay July / August, up front. Remember, I had offered to pay 45 days up front, then second 45 days, as a 3 month lease. She said one month at a time. Strange.[/QUOTE]$ 800,000 USD, if so, that's totally insane. What barrio in Poblado was it in, La Linde, Castrapool, Provenza, Tesoro? And limited windows in some of the bedrooms isn't surprising, Paisas don't value views as much as foreigners in Medellin, hence the designs of the buildings, at least the older ones didn't focus much on that. Penthouses technically are the top floors of apartment buildings, but don't always mean they include enhanced amenities, except some have large terraza's and balcony's.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2461418]Nude, masturbating, some with dildos or vibrators. Some with 2 girls. They vary in quality and length. I'm not posting them anywhere at this time.[/QUOTE]Gotcha. Yeah, quite a few chicas here have sent me vids of them masturbating. There are a lot of vids on the various prepago websites as well, I noticed today.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461398]Any real difference between photoprepagos and mileroticos?[/QUOTE]Photoprepagos kicks out the fake girl pictures much more than Mileroticos or Skokka so your chance of getting what you you saw in the pictures doubles is what I have found. I would not use Mileroticos or Skokka. But it is still a lot of pain in the ass in the number of no replies, girls listing wrong cities they are located in, down payment BS, girls using pictures saved from 5 years prior. Much higher success and less BS using Massage / Spas, Facebook, and street girls. But street girls a bit more dangerous. Thinking these sites are easy like fish in a barrel is wrong. It is work and time consuming.

All of a sudden, in the last week on Tinder there have been a bunch of chicas saying they are selling fotos of their hands and feet. Huh? Am I missing something? Are there that many guys with finger and toe fetishes? Or is this "code" for selling nude fotos because Tinder is cracking down?

As for FB pics and videos. I tell the girls I have no interest in fotos or videos because I can find that stuff for free on the Internet, but I do tell them I like to bang and would be happy to see htem in person when I return. A few gems can be found this way.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2461347]Quite a few of the Facebook girls are actively selling videos and advertising. Several others who aren't advertising they are selling videos have stepped up the game on the photos they are posting. Fortunately, Facebook's Colombia division doesn't do much to censor the posts.

I bought videos from a few, who then sent my WhatsApp to all their friends. All of the "buy my videos" requests can get annoying, but I've added a bunch of possibilities for next visit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2461468]All of a sudden, in the last week on Tinder there have been a bunch of chicas saying they are selling fotos of their hands and feet. Huh? Am I missing something? Are there that many guys with finger and toe fetishes? Or is this "code" for selling nude fotos because Tinder is cracking down?

As for FB pics and videos. I tell the girls I have no interest in fotos or videos because I can find that stuff for free on the Internet, but I do tell them I like to bang and would be happy to see htem in person when I return. A few gems can be found this way.[/QUOTE]I noticed that about the feet as well LOL. The thirst is real! I'm never surprised by the things guys are willing to pay for, especially dudes in places like the USA that have a lot of disposable income. I've never seen a "fans only" page, but I've seen people write about it so guys are paying these girls for stuff like pics, even though like you said, there is an abundance of this stuff already on the Net. I even noticed some girls advertising webcam prices, and they are pretty close to what they charge for the real thing. Who knowns what things will be like in 5-10 years?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2461418]Nude, masturbating, some with dildos or vibrators. Some with 2 girls. They vary in quality and length. I'm not posting them anywhere at this time.[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting. I had some girls offering videos, I always tell them that I much rather fuck a 28 year old in person than watch an 18 year old touch herself.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2461412]I showed you a photo but just to be clear; There has never been a USA President named George Jefferson, there has been George Washington and two George Bush and there has been a Thomas Jefferson (made the best land deal in at least the history of the USA and maybe the world.[/QUOTE]Such an embarrassing mistake! I got confused with T. Jefferson. Sorry, I am not American and ignorance is mine. Apologies.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461533]Such an embarrassing mistake! I got confused with T. Jefferson. Sorry, I am not American and ignorance is mine. Apologies.[/QUOTE]Here he is LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461480]I noticed that about the feet as well LOL. The thirst is real! I'm never surprised by the things guys are willing to pay for, especially dudes in places like the USA that have a lot of disposable income. I've never seen a "fans only" page, but I've seen people write about it so guys are paying these girls for stuff like pics, even though like you said, there is an abundance of this stuff already on the Net. I even noticed some girls advertising webcam prices, and they are pretty close to what they charge for the real thing. Who knowns what things will be like in 5-10 years?[/QUOTE]I met a girl on Seeking Arrangement in a mid-tier US city and we never hooked up but remain close WhatsApp friends. She doesn't do paid sex but makes about $200 a week just camming — mostly the guys like to tell he what to do and that's part of the thrill I guess (not for me!) and she has one guy that drives 3 hours to see her. He pays her $200 just to walk on him. No sex. Just walking on him. $200. Yeah fuckin weird.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2461408]The kind of vids you can get for free on pornhub etc. Minus the been with her / want to be with her fantasies and the "gracias 'mor te atendere sper bien cuando vienes" okey doke routine.[/QUOTE]Yes and no. It's all a "depends on the girl situation. One girl just does live video calls. Another one made videos where she was constantly calling out my name. Another brought over a friend and they did a video call and played with each other.

A few have terrible lighting, bad camera angles, or low quality vids. One of them just sent me 10 minutes of vids yesterday, using 3 different toys, with excellent lighting, angles and resolution, unsolicited, to see if I wanted to buy more.

However the best videos aren't coming from the girls who are selling them. I've got several who are sending them for free. Not entirely for free. I write them a short porn story and next thing they're sending me videos.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2461422]$ 800,000 USD, if so, that's totally insane. What barrio in Poblado was it in, La Linde, Castrapool, Provenza, Tesoro? And limited windows in some of the bedrooms isn't surprising, Paisas don't value views as much as foreigners in Medellin, hence the designs of the buildings, at least the older ones didn't focus much on that. Penthouses technically are the top floors of apartment buildings, but don't always mean they include enhanced amenities, except some have large terraza's and balcony's.[/QUOTE]Castropol, facing Manila / Belen / Airport - 480 m2 (almost 5,200 SF).

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2461468]All of a sudden, in the last week on Tinder there have been a bunch of chicas saying they are selling fotos of their hands and feet. Huh? Am I missing something? Are there that many guys with finger and toe fetishes? Or is this "code" for selling nude fotos because Tinder is cracking down?

As for FB pics and videos. I tell the girls I have no interest in fotos or videos because I can find that stuff for free on the Internet, but I do tell them I like to bang and would be happy to see htem in person when I return. A few gems can be found this way.[/QUOTE]Anyone else seen the selling clavicle photos? I have the same response to this shit.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2461536]I met a girl on Seeking Arrangement in a mid-tier US city and we never hooked up but remain close WhatsApp friends. She doesn't do paid sex but makes about $200 a week just camming mostly the guys like to tell he what to do and that's part of the thrill I guess (not for me!) and she has one guy that drives 3 hours to see her. He pays her $200 just to walk on him. No sex. Just walking on him. $200. Yeah fuckin weird.[/QUOTE]I had a session with a Chinese working girl many years ago and after the deed I got a massage. During the massage she proceeded to walk on my body. It felt really good.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2461536]I met a girl on Seeking Arrangement in a mid-tier US city and we never hooked up but remain close WhatsApp friends. She doesn't do paid sex but makes about $200 a week just camming mostly the guys like to tell he what to do and that's part of the thrill I guess (not for me!) and she has one guy that drives 3 hours to see her. He pays her $200 just to walk on him. No sex. Just walking on him. $200. Yeah fuckin weird.[/QUOTE]You guys have no fucking idea.

Twenty years ago a stripper friend from Albuquerque made $2000 plus expenses in 4 hours. A guy who came into the club paid her airfare and hotel, plus the $2000, and flew her to have a famous fetish photographer take pics of her feet.

Thirty years ago the CEO of a large corporation in San Diego paid at least 3 women I knew to come to his office and watch him masturbate. All they had to do was sit and watch. They didn't have to strip, or touch him. Just watch.

For the past 3 years a hedge fund manager has been spending at least $800 every week giving mostly offline tips to my old roommate the webcam model. Never tries to meet her, just sends the tip. Usually doesn't even bother to watch her shows.

Go to any site where women are broadcasting, whether it's an adult site, or a G rated livestream site, and you'll see people begging girls to show their feet. It's almost impossible not to see someone begging for feet. Then there's the guys who just want to watch a girl smoke a cigarette. Or the guys who want to see armpits.

There are guys who want women to put a diaper on them and treat them like a baby. There are guys who want a woman to stomp on their dick. No matter how bizarre you think something is, some guy is willing to pay for it.

This should put it in perspective. Several years ago a man in central Washington state died as the result of having sex with a horse. Let me clarify that. He died from being on the receiving end of sex with a stallion. Investigation uncovered there was a group of guys who paid a rancher to use his barn and the stallion for the act. There were enough guys in a rural part of the state who wanted to be fucked in the ass by a horse to form a "Let a horse fuck you in the ass" club.

None of this, other than the horse, should surprise anyone. The porn industry has been going strong for more than 100 years. In reality, for more than 1,000 years. It's all just an extension of prostitution. It's about satisfying your needs, no matter how bizarre. Paying for it just makes the process easier. I'm sure most of us, if we devoted ourselves to the task, could find an 18-30 girl who would fuck us for free. Heck, In the past 3 months I've found 3 girls, 19, 19 and 21, who want to be tied up and spanked, by me all for free. And I wasn't even looking for someone to tie up and spank.

Even within mongering this stuff is all true. Look at the guys who insist on anal, BBBJ, pics and videos. There are guys who bring a suitcase of vibrators, lingerie, restraints. Either none of it's weird (except for the horse), or all of it's weird.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2461468]All of a sudden, in the last week on Tinder there have been a bunch of chicas saying they are selling fotos of their hands and feet. Huh? Am I missing something? Are there that many guys with finger and toe fetishes? Or is this "code" for selling nude fotos because Tinder is cracking down?

As for FB pics and videos. I tell the girls I have no interest in fotos or videos because I can find that stuff for free on the Internet, but I do tell them I like to bang and would be happy to see htem in person when I return. A few gems can be found this way.[/QUOTE]I have only seen a few of these types of offerings, what ever floats a guys boat I guess but not mine as I need to get my dick buried in sweet pussy and anything less than that objective just doesn't work.

Now I got on Tinder about a month ago, partly because I was bored and partly because of curiosity as it has been about 3 years since I played around with it, so far here is my experience but just know that I am bored with all the back and forth messaging so I don't take it serious at all, anyway just some random thoughts:

1. I have received probably close to 100 likes in the past 3 weeks.

2. I have communicated with about 3 paisas so far, one immediately request money for a video or photos, "my baby has no diapers and I desperately need 100 mil" so delete. The 2 others look promising but time will tell.

3. The range of beauty is somewhere between 6's to maybe an 8+, nothing spectacular as I find better non-pros on my own. Note that I detest plastic tits and asses and tattoos so I don't give these types of bitches even a second look, yes I would fuck them but would not pay for it, just my MO nowadays.

4. I find that it takes a great deal of effort and time and back and forth messages to weed out the "deplorable's" (H. Clinton hehehehe).

5. I bought a 3 month subscription for like $31. USD so the $10. USD a month is cheap and so if nothing else a cheap purchase for a pastime hobby, just checking faces and bodies and reading what they have to say about themselves.

6. I have about 7 more contact info (IE whataspp) of Tinder girls and probably 3 or 4 out of that bunch that I will pursue and see what comes of it.

7. It is interesting to note and very typical that the communication goes dark / silent fro Friday through Monday morning with the chicas as they are with their boyfriends out getting pounded and drinking / partying during the weekend, but then come each Monday Tinder and the messaging lights up like a Christmas tree.

Just my one month experience so lets see how it plays out.

The Tall Man.

Thirsty (girls) + thirsty (guys who can't get to them) = craziness.

I guess I am a bit of a hard ass when it comes to paying for what is available for free. Deep down I know it's true but I can't help but marvel that people still pay for pornography of any kind since the Internet became widely available.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2461555]Castropol, facing Manila / Belen / Airport - 480 m2 (almost 5,200 SF).

Anyone else seen the selling clavicle photos? I have the same response to this shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461533]Such an embarrassing mistake! I got confused with T. Jefferson. Sorry, I am not American and ignorance is mine. Apologies.[/QUOTE]No need to apologize, it's highly unlikely you offended any American (s), in fact, albeit you may have gotten the first name off of one American President, there have been more than a few American Presidents who pretty much acted like George Jefferson while in office.

I have been in Medellin for nearly 4 months, during a quarantine. I find it hard to believe that anyone is paying someone in medellin $800 usd for online sessions. But hey whatever floats your boat. I can tell you now, many of the best looking girls in Centro and surrounding Antioquia are charging no more than $40,000 pesos per session. I was walking near Centro yesterday and saw some girls that once quoted me $300,000 pesos for 2 hours all hugged up with local customers. These guys are lucky to be earning $600,000 pesos a month. They really must have some super online secure lines to receive money because I tried to send myself $200 usd 2 days ago from remitly to bancolombia and it was such a headache that I decided to cancel the transfer and send the money back to my account. Many times I have been with other gringos here in Medellin and when I asked them about these super fine models, they could never make them appear, only when I was not around. With that being said, go ahead and fill up the thread with ideas that foreigners are just stupid guys throwing away money. I am here and doing damn great and have not seen anyone enjoying the fruits of this Quarantine except those with long bank accounts. But carry on fellas. Pollo Negro is out.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2461565]I have only seen a few of these types of offerings, what ever floats a guys boat I guess but not mine as I need to get my dick buried in sweet pussy and anything less than that objective just doesn't work.

Now I got on Tinder about a month ago, partly because I was bored and partly because of curiosity as it has been about 3 years since I played around with it, so far here is my experience but just know that I am bored with all the back and forth messaging so I don't take it serious at all, anyway just some random thoughts:

1. I have received probably close to 100 likes in the past 3 weeks.

2. I have communicated with about 3 paisas so far, one immediately request money for a video or photos, "my baby has no diapers and I desperately need 100 mil" so delete. The 2 others look promising but time will tell.

3. The range of beauty is somewhere between 6's to maybe an 8+, nothing spectacular as I find better non-pros on my own. Note that I detest plastic tits and asses and tattoos so I don't give these types of bitches even a second look, yes I would fuck them but would not pay for it, just my MO nowadays.

4. I find that it takes a great deal of effort and time and back and forth messages to weed out the "deplorable's" (H. Clinton hehehehe)..[/QUOTE]Regarding your Note # 3, unless you've put in an age group lets say within no more than 10 years younger than you, it's highly unlikely your dealing with non-pro's. Anything much younger than you is going to be in the game and I doubt you will be fucking them for free. That at least has been my experience with it in the past.