Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[QUOTE=Longhorn2000]Xman and others,

Hope you can give me your advice on this. Headed over to PI next week, and plan to meet at least three online cuties with whom I've been chatting for some time. Facing the age old dilemna of what to say when I make my exit from one to the other. I've come up with the following: tell them I have close Filipino friends here at home and they want me to visit their relatives in another town there for a few days. And that I will be insulting my friends if I don't go see their relatives. I know I shouldnt worry about this so much, but I've bonded with each of them and I don't want to be an asshole and hurt them intentionally. I know that goes against the Monger's Creed ("find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them"), but I am who I am.

I've solicited advice on this topic before, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone.

Thanks for any advice![/QUOTE]

The Nurse gives excellent advice for another reason. It may become difficult to remember the story you told. That is the problem with a lie. The truth is placed in the memory banks in a different way than a made up story. That is why it is easier for police to catch criminals years later. They cannot remember the intricate story they fabricated, so usually try to come up with the same story and it doesn't ring true to the original story. All they had to do was say "I have forgotten, it was so long ago."

Then if you are a drinker and drinking to the point that it affects your memory you have even more difficulty remembering the story you told.

For me I have always had business to handle while in Asia. So I employ the half truth the nurse talks about. I say I have business to handle either in another city in the Philippines or in Hong Kong. I am usually in a big city so I do not worry about being seen. I also will change hotels.
Never been questioned or had a text message that I was seen. If I did get the "my friend saw you" text message I would just say it wasn't me. Must have been a westerner that looked like me. If she said her friend was sure it was me I would say well did she talk to this guy? Why not? If it was me she should have said hi? Why would she not say hi to me? Because she wasn't sure it was me... that is why. I am not there, it could not have been me.

As a good friend of mine once told me deny deny deny. Even if they have a picture of you..you say " I admit it looks like me but it simply isn't me.

The business story leaves you with much more room to tell your story. The other party did not show up...showed up late...changed the meeting time...was useless and not a good business person to deal with. The meeting went well and we have another meeting scheduled....I could not text you back because I was in a meeting or having dinner with the person I had the business meeting with. I have even went out at night on my own saying that I was going to have a business dinner meeting.

You will receive lots of request for employment, but you just say you do not mix business with friends. It is not good for business.

Again easier for me as I am there for business most of the time and taking a break when I am meeting girls.

Also I was not promising relationships with girls. I had ongoing relationships where I would see the same girl or girls during my visits, but not anything that was going to escalate to a serious relationship. Not that they would not have liked this and if they knew the level of my mongering some serious jealousy would have erupted. So I did my story telling.


FF

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she “doesn’t want to feel like a contestant in a beauty pageant” and that “it is demeaning”.
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You should ask her what she is looking for in a man? Is it nothing? Does she have no criteria? If you choose her she will agree to marry you no questions asked. Will she blind fold herself and just listen to you and if she likes your voice and your story she will marry you? Is she comparing your bank account to other bank accounts of guys that may support her family better? If you have no job she is going to marry you and accept you into her family to live in the Philippines with her family till death do you part?

Point is we all have some criteria we are using in picking a mate. Some of this criteria may seem shallow and if so the person may pay for being shallow later in life by choosing an incompatible mate.

When a girl gives you this story I think they have something to hide. By the way, many lie about their age and if they have children. When they insist that they be the only one you meet and try to monopolize all your time I would be more worried about some scam they are looking to run on you than if you are losing a potential future mate.


FF

This thread has been quiet lately.

I hope FF has given TB (towelboy) something to think about...and of course TB has given any newbies something to think about. Sometimes things seem so obvious that I never think to mention it.

So, here it is again...

If you are going to Philippines to meet chat friends, MEET AS MANY AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN!

I'm pretty sure I have a completely different strategy than TB, so he may very well have different results...but this is what I consistently find with chat friends (I use Cherry blossom, but may try something different next time.)

1) My first choices usually aren't as interesting as I expected. On the last visit, Ms. #1 replied to my text with "who are you?". Yes, I had included my name.... She wasn't even in the city I thought she was in. Duh.

2) Rarely will the woman be as good looking as the pictures. And dark or blurry cam is a warning sign too. Bad comlplexions don't show up on cam.

3) Although I never use the marriage word and am very up front about this being a "friend" meeting, I get the stinky on my dinky about 40% of the time at the first meeting. As for the other 60%, in most cases I just didn't pursue things. (note: there were a few that were oh so fine...and I pursued...and they still eluded me.)

As for point 3, someone once asked me if it was possible to bed the penpal / chat types, so I did some calculation and that's what I came up with. I hope I don't sound like a high school boy bragging about conquests. I also don't want to give some illusion about the women being "sluts". That's not the vibe I get.

It's more like some exotic guy comes to town, he takes her to places she never knew existed (or could never afford), his hotel costs more than she earns in a month, the room is so clean...hot shower...nice television with cable....

For the average Filipina there is going to be some sensory overload here. And, well, at the same time you are asking her to teach you some words, being sweet, touching her, holding her hand... Has my point been made?

To paraphrase my friend Mahku: A nice view ...opens legs.

Back to towelboy, stop talking marriage with these women. Just meet (Freudian slip, I first typed "meat") them and pursue them in some romantic way. Much better to say, "I came her for a holiday, to go to the beach, but I met you and fell in love....it's my destiny....marry me!" Talking marriage online with someone you never met sounds so lame, so desperate. No wonder they give you the "duh".

**** For example...one lady, not nearly as cute as her CB profile, but cute enough, friendly...first date is in the Fuente Osmena Circle to see the Christmas tree. I arrive late having had a few beers at Silver Dollar and tell the half-truth, "I was with friends...sorry to be late." (Friend was a bikini clad bar girl who was telling me she licks pussy, sucks black dick, ...and is always eager to please her customer...)

Back to my CB date, a factory worker, traveled over two hours to meet me, not native to Cebu...she had brought an annoying chubby friend who did the interrogation routine. I eventually told her I was tired of the interrogation. (I fully expected to be back at Silver Dollar before the night was over.)

Chubby sort of got the message and then did her interrogation in Visayan to my date, and my date translated... I went along with this for a while and finally confronted chubby once again... in a polite, joking way of course.

Well, we got something to eat on the rooftop of Holiday Plaza (nice view) and then down to my room to relax. Much to my surprise, chubby had to go. They both lived about two hours out of town my jeepney / maybe 45 min by taxi, and both had to work the next morning. I gave chubby taxi fare...

(Note to newbies: some out of town girls will take some convoluted jeepney route or bus route to meet you...and you can expect them to be late....very late.... I've tried to tell them to take a taxi as I would pay for it, but they are reluctant if they have never met you, which is understandable. No matter how bad the date goes, pay for their transportation. If the date goes well, give them enough to come back by taxi...plus some. If they say it is too much, make up some half-truth...."use it for your phone to text me..."

So, chubby leaves and after the intial hugs and kisses she declared that her jeans are wet. Surprised, I thought she had spilled something. Hmm, no drinks in sight. I thought I had misheard -- my little brain had taken over and things seemed foggy. Back to kissing and hugging and she says the same thing. Huh? I tuck my hand into her crotch and sure enough....some very wet jeans.

"Take them off".

She did.

6 am wake up so she could get to work the next morning.

X Man

Just returned from my Cherry trip, and let me say that X-Man is dead on correct once again. I only had three chat friends lined up, so there was not much room for error. Mission accomplished with girl # 1, and I was quite satisfied. Girl #2 promised lots of sex upon my arrival, and was then chaperoned by her parents on our first two dates. There should not have been a second date, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt, which resulted in nothing but wasted time. And I was not attracted to girl # 3. Next trip, I plan to have a minimum of ten on the dance card.

[QUOTE=X Man]It's more like some exotic guy comes to town, he takes her to places she never knew existed (or could never afford), his hotel costs more than she earns in a month, the room is so clean...hot shower...nice television with cable....[/QUOTE]
....and her friends and family will never know who, where and when!

Nice report X Man!

Hi to all,
recently met one of my chatroomscontacts. I met her before and we had 2 nice nights together. SHe told me she is my gf now, I agreed, cause thats the game.

Back home I send her some money to built up some business for me, should have seen it, of course a lot or excuses why it didnt worked.

Now that I live in PI, I met her again, just to get some free bangs for the money I spend before...well, I met her again and she put on some wheight, my spidey senses went on alert. In my hotel room she told me its ok to screw her without condom, which wasnt ok to her when we met first time. My spidey senses went on higher alert.

I got suspicious. Next morning I send her shopping and told her to get her things also. She refused, but took the shopping money to check out sm clark with her friend.

Went to the frontdesk with her bag and told them that my gf will pick it up, if she will ask about me, just tell her I changed hotel room. Then I txt her and told her I had to change my hotel cause they had earlier reservation and I had to leave. She of course txt me a lot of excuses, like she spend al the money for shopping and had no place to sleep, etc etc...a few miscalls then it was quiet again.

I didnt mind she was f..ing around, what I mind that she thinks how stupid I was to buy her story or not to see she got pregnant allready.

As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one.

Who knows what her plan, I know its the secound time she got pregnant but guess she will get rid of the baby, the father, well its one of some loser pinoy who will hide once he got confronted with the hospital bill and then come back if he want to see his 3 minutes-result of real love LOL....

Anyway dont get serious to chatgurls, for p4p its ok, nothing else...

Just a story I had to tell cause Im a bit bored today, hahahahahaha....

Happy hunting

Blink

My experience of Dating Site girls is different.

For me 95% of them have turned out to be better looking than their pics.

The keepers (long term gf's) have been monogamous (or as near as I can tell).
I guess if the risk reward ratio is skewed in their mind in your favour they will stay pretty loyal, if not, wellll.... bye!

I have had so many great girls to choose from in so many places its a crying shame that I have to choose only a few.

Happy Mongering!
Amavida

See the link below for full report. Here for a day, got chatting with a newbie CB girl in a spare 30 minutes (focused on young, cute and Manila) and 2 hours later she is in my bed, 21 yrs old, wonderful rack and will certainly see her again on my return..

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701724&postcount=1557[/url]

Interesting discussion by RN and others about how to manage seeing several girls on the same trip without offending any of them. While the general rule should be to be as honest as possible given common sense and female sensibilities, it CERTAINLY is possible to be too honest. I learned that lesson from my ex wife in whom I reposed total trust and, stupidly in retrospect, told her all sorts of stories about sexual adventures I had before meeting her. She NEVER forgot a single detail of the exploits I mentioned and used those statements against me for the rest of our marriage.

CB type girls expect you will be communicating with several other girls BEFORE you meet them. Once you bed them, they will be much less tolerant of any perceived interest in pursuing the other candidates. SOME will accept their role gracefully, but those are the ones you need to be careful about because deep down almost all Filipinas are jealous and if they never show any jealous the chance that she is really into you is slim.

790027 Busty, not as cute as the pics.
702220 Very petite, good conversation, you will have to take her shopping. I dumped her when she asked me to take her to Borocay. Does have a bikini.

The little story is acutally...very little....insignificant.

Glad you could post your story, but how on earth do you come to the conclusion that we should not involve ourselves with chat girls?

We appreciate hearing about one guys story about his fun and heartbreak with one girl. Thanks. What I don't understand is your conclusion that everyone should treat chat ladies as p4p. WHat is that? You had a bad experience. Sorry dude, I feel for you, I understand your feelings, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Unfortunately, it doesn't revolve around me either. And 95 % of the chat ladies

Oh, you mentioned that she went to "SM clark!. So this is an Angeles City experience. Um, at the first meeting did you ever inquire about her occupation? Maybe "nursing student"? Or volunteer at the AIDS clinic?

If you find anyone in chat who lives in AC (or Pampanga), you might as well ask where she works. I personally wouldn't treat them any different regardless. I would be more wary though. And I wouldn't expect anything while I was gone...not with a pro, nor with a regular girl. Hey, you aint there. How hard is that to figure out?

"that's the game" "I sent her some money"

DUH...

X







[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
recently met one of my chatroomscontacts. I met her before and we had 2 nice nights together. SHe told me she is my gf now, I agreed, cause thats the game.

Back home I send her some money to built up some business for me, should have seen it, of course a lot or excuses why it didnt worked.

Now that I live in PI, I met her again, just to get some free bangs for the money I spend before...well, I met her again and she put on some wheight, my spidey senses went on alert. In my hotel room she told me its ok to screw her without condom, which wasnt ok to her when we met first time. My spidey senses went on higher alert.

I got suspicious. Next morning I send her shopping and told her to get her things also. She refused, but took the shopping money to check out sm clark with her friend.

Went to the frontdesk with her bag and told them that my gf will pick it up, if she will ask about me, just tell her I changed hotel room. Then I txt her and told her I had to change my hotel cause they had earlier reservation and I had to leave. She of course txt me a lot of excuses, like she spend al the money for shopping and had no place to sleep, etc etc...a few miscalls then it was quiet again.

I didnt mind she was f..ing around, what I mind that she thinks how stupid I was to buy her story or not to see she got pregnant allready.

As of now forget all chatgurls for serious relation (marriage etc) just keep them as f..ckfriends and if the moneything comes up get another one.

Who knows what her plan, I know its the secound time she got pregnant but guess she will get rid of the baby, the father, well its one of some loser pinoy who will hide once he got confronted with the hospital bill and then come back if he want to see his 3 minutes-result of real love LOL....

Anyway dont get serious to chatgurls, for p4p its ok, nothing else...

Just a story I had to tell cause Im a bit bored today, hahahahahaha....

Happy hunting

Blink[/QUOTE]

Amen to that, pinays are individuals, met some I would trust with my life, and some I wouldn't trust with yours! I lived in HK for over five years and used to fly to Pinas monthly, you got stung blink, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, get over it, but a guy who is fooled by a pinay is the same guy who is fooled back home by a lady, no different!

[QUOTE=X Man]The little story is acutally...very little....insignificant.

Glad you could post your story, but how on earth do you come to the conclusion that we should not involve ourselves with chat girls?

We appreciate hearing about one guys story about his fun and heartbreak with one girl. Thanks. What I don't understand is your conclusion that everyone should treat chat ladies as p4p. WHat is that? You had a bad experience. Sorry dude, I feel for you, I understand your feelings, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Unfortunately, it doesn't revolve around me either. And 95 % of the chat ladies

Oh, you mentioned that she went to "SM clark!. So this is an Angeles City experience. Um, at the first meeting did you ever inquire about her occupation? Maybe "nursing student"? Or volunteer at the AIDS clinic?

If you find anyone in chat who lives in AC (or Pampanga), you might as well ask where she works. I personally wouldn't treat them any different regardless. I would be more wary though. And I wouldn't expect anything while I was gone...not with a pro, nor with a regular girl. Hey, you aint there. How hard is that to figure out?

"that's the game" "I sent her some money"

DUH...

X[/QUOTE]

Hi to all,
ok maybe Im wrong to say not to meet them or avoid them, but my experiences aint gud at all with kampampangans, doesnt matter if they in the p4p business in bars or in sites (paid chatsites)

The point is, ANgeles city have to many foreigners and "locals" have another opinion of the "value" of money foreigners given to them.

Starts with the so called "tip", if you give 100 pesos you considered to be a cheap charlie etc etc, if you do that in a province like la union, negros or any city who doesnt see foreigners that often, value is different.

If you looking for a really serious gurl you have to go to the provinces., My gf is from La union, university student and nver ask any money, even for transportation from me..thats why she is my gf :D

Angeles city is a fun place,, you go there for fun, dont get serious...Chatgurls from paid chatsites (acm, abc ect) are all bola2, especially those from Pampanga (my experiences and I can name several gurls or many examples how much bola2 they are) All I want is to tell "heads up" to newbies..not to guys like you Xmen, ur a proffesional, hehehehe....

Ok maybe one example from a gurl I know...

she works on acm and abc, her names ar shelvygudess, acm gudess or acmgodess etc etc..She is originally from Pampanga and I know her from work (dont want to be specific on that :D)
She makes good money on chats, plus her variaous boyfriends sent her money for her "visa" , hehehe, she still dont have one yet :D....Happens to me that we had a liason, means I screwed her withoput paying anything..au contraire I earned with her (yeah I know thats bad) and the big news now, she is a lesbian and lives with her lesbian gf :D....

Thats just one example, I could name many....

Happy hunting and heads up!!


Blink

While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).

I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.

The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.

[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]While I think Blink's original post may have exaggerated the danger of online dating a bit, his clarification makes sense (he is only trying to warn newbies).

I completely agree with him that anybody in Pampanga (whether a native AKA Kapamapangan or transplant) should be viewed with great suspicion. Lying and deceit is a way of life there, there is so much temptation it is almost irresistible, and those looking for a trustworthy GF are looking in the wrong place if she has EVER even been to Pampanga. The farther from Angeles, and the less exposure to foreigners, the better for those seeking a real GF.

The upside to online girls in AC is you need not make a special trip to remote provinces to meet her, and if things don't pan out you can always console yourself with a hooker.[/QUOTE]


yes, thats what I trying to say...


Happy hunting :)

Blink