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[QUOTE=Regnad]As it would happen, my next trip over commences the day before her birthday. Has anyone here ever brought in a birthday cake for one of the girls? Or seen one brought in by another?[/QUOTE]
Well...funny you should ask. It was not at an FKK, rather at a bordello, but ol' Angus, the hopeless romantic, once did bake a cake (actually Mousse au Chocolat avec Creme de Maron and Cherries) and took it in to his then favorite girl at Kamilla Dee here in Berlin. We spent the hour eating & licking it off each other in various poses. A very nice memory indeed.
As I see it the only difficulty with doing the same in a club would be it is rather more logistically difficult. That is, a cake is large and hard to carry without damage. Maybe a small cake in a bakery box?
Also this gesture towards the bordello girl did somewhat backfire on me as the poor girl started to be falsely nice to me as she felt a bit indebted to my generous enthusiasm for her slim 20 yo. body. This was not my intention but such gestures can easily be misinterpreted by a younger woman who is playing for pay.
AM
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[QUOTE=Heartmuscle]Gentlemen,
I'm a newbie - done lots of reading here and have a question.
It was suggested on the Costa Rica board that inexpensive gifts would be appreciated, the kind of jewelry a girl might buy for herself at a mall shop. It seemed sensible but there's a different standard of living in C.R. vs. Germany.
Good idea? Bad idea? Your thoughts?
Heartmuscle
SoFla USA[/QUOTE]
Angus is correct that gift-giving won't get you as far in Europe as in the 3rd world, but in general I am hesitant to give unsolicited gifts since they may not be meaningful or even useful to her. Women tend to have very individual and distinct tastes in jewelry, perfume, clothing, and lotions so unless I know her quite well I wouldn't lean in this direction.
If you must give a gift, I've had both food and drink go over very well. For example, I brought some champagne, strawberries and whipped cream for one girl and they all tasted even better off her breasts! In another case I was asked for chocolate from my home country. Since I don't come from Switzerland or Belgium I double-checked whether she [i]really[/i] wanted the inferior stuff. She did, and was glad that I remembered.
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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder] I've had both food and drink go over very well. For example, I brought some champagne, strawberries and whipped cream for one girl and they all tasted even better off her breasts![/QUOTE]
Come now Gfe Finder-you expect us to believe that you brought the strawberries and whipped cream for her? ;) As with my Chocolate Mousse, I believe it was mostly to experience licking them off her breasts. Nice that she is a good sport with food fun.
But I have to agree that food, more specifically sweet food, is the best avenue.
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Touché!
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Come now Gfe Finder-you expect us to believe that you brought the strawberries and whipped cream for her? ;) As with my Chocolate Mousse, I believe it was mostly to experience licking them off her breasts. Nice that she is a good sport with food fun.
But I have to agree that food, more specifically sweet food, is the best avenue.[/QUOTE]
Well, she did have some to eat. That ought to count as something for her. :)
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The quiet art
So to the point, if you have a range of perfumes or lipsticks or Nutella .... you can to her about what fragance, colour or smear proximity will capture the essence of her womanhood ...
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]... Women tend to have very individual and distinct tastes in jewelry, perfume, clothing, and lotions so unless I know her quite well I wouldn't lean in this direction. [/QUOTE]
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Just moved here
I just moved to the area so excuse my ignorance. So at these clubs there is a flat rate to get in and then you can enjoy as many girls as you want? Do you have to then tip the girls? Do the girls charge for each session? I'm not a cheap ass but just want to know how much to bring. IF the flat rate to get in is 50 E, then how much should I bring if I want to enjoy 2 or 3 girls? How much does each girl charge per session?
Thanks for the info.
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Relative Costs
[QUOTE=Kimtoole]So at these clubs there is a flat rate to get in and then you can enjoy as many girls as you want? Do you have to then tip the girls? Do the girls charge for each session?[/QUOTE]My understanding is that the various clubs are operated as follows:
* FKK - Admission charge to enjoy the facilities, each girl operates as an independent after that and is paid individually, sessions usually private 1-on-1. Expect best overall level of girls here, and in a real FKK they are walking around buck naked, YMMV I suppose.
* Sauna Club - Like an FKK, but the girls are covered?
* PartyTreff - Single admission covers all, including food, facilities and girls. Oriented more towards public sex and group sex activities. If you like to hang it in public go here. Level of girls may be from poor to very good, but not usually at the level of a FKK
* PauschalClub - I think this is kind of like a cross between the previous two, single entrance like a PartyTreff, but sessions occur in single rooms with a 1-on-1 bias.
I am still planning my trip for October, but this is how I have been interpreting the data during my planning. So as far as expense is concerned, it is a trade of how many € you wish to spend, with FKK probably at the top, and PartyTreffs at the bottom
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Can I just jack off?
I have the good fortune to be spending a few months for work in Germany. Fucking or even touching another woman meets my definition of cheating on my wife, but ogling multiple nude ladies and watching other people have sex does not violate my admittedly arbitrary definition of cheating.
Would it be weird for me to go to an fkk club and just jack off? If it would be strange, then what would be a more appropriate venue for the ultimate masturbation experience? What places do you recommend that are acessible by public transport near Stuttgart, Mannheim or Frankfurt? And am I supposed to shave my junk?
Many thanks.
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okay, i'll bite.
[quote=silas meacham]would it be weird for me to go to an fkk club and just jack off? [/quote]
in a word-yes. it would be down right creepy. not that it does not happen. girls often tell me that it happens but they do not appreciate it in the least. personally, it is not so much the jacking off as the trying to hide it that is sort of creepy.
now if you go, pay the entry and then pick a girl and jack off to her either in public or in a room then pay her the agreed upon fee, i can not see anyone really objecting to this. some guys might find it uncomfortable (if you do the public option) but if you pay who can really object? and if you want to watch the girl fuck you could always find a willing guy who would do the honors. this is not unheard of, one guy paying a session for another guy as he watches. many guys would likely say no but some might say yes. in fact if you pay my train fare, entry fee and the price of one session old angus will gladly bone the girl of your choice while you watch. just keep your hands where i can see them and be very careful where you point the spray. my liberal attitude to such things ends with getting an unintended cob ;) or at least that would be extra.
[quote=silas meacham]if it would be strange, then what would be a more appropriate venue for the ultimate masturbation experience? what places do you recommend that are acessible by public transport near stuttgart, mannheim or frankfurt? [/quote]
maybe a kino? or a table dance bar? but still if you are trying to hide it and not pay it is creepy and easily misinterpreted. there are also, at least in berlin, peep shows where you sit in a booth and wank to a live girl for a small fee. this might just fit your profile.
but the ultimate masturbation experience i can not say. as one of my fave sci-fi authors said about masturbation (and i paraphrase)-it is clean, cheap, safe and efficient, but also very lonely. far be it for me to lead a faithful married man astray, but once you have crossed the threshold to an fkk you might as well go all the way and stick it in somewhere. for me the definition of cheating is if you do something that you would not just casually mention to your partner-oh honey, i went to the fkk last night. it is this hiding that is dishonest, not the fact of fucking another woman.
[quote=silas meacham]and am i supposed to shave my junk?[/quote]
if you want to get your balls well and truly licked yes. otherwise, up to you.
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AM You're the man!
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]In fact if you pay my train fare, entry fee and the price of one session Old Angus will gladly bone the girl of your choice while you watch. Just keep your hands where I can see them and be very careful where you point the spray. My liberal attitude to such things ends with getting an unintended cob ;) or at least that would be extra.[/QUOTE]Angus, this struck me so funny and so true to your willingness to sacrifice yourself in the interests of the greater good , and I just wanted to use it as a segue to thanking you and all the other regular posters like Hessen Bub, BasketCase, Iseeu, Wanking and all the others too numerous to mention on here that have made me feel welcome and a part of the community, even though I have yet been unable to actually yet contribute a post of my experience as I haven't yet made my planned trip. I plan to absolutely rectify that when I return to the sexual wasteland at the end of October.
Also, thank you for your response to my thread on the General Info topic regarding the use of "Those little pills" [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1054609#post1054609[/url]
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Visit to FKK Palace
I seem to have lost my first post but here goes again.
I am thinking of visiting the Palace on a flying visit. Can anyone advise what the taxi fare is from Frankfurt Airport to the Club?
I am thinking of staying in the club from around opening to closing and then flying out on day 2. Apart from needing boundless energy are there any problems with doing this?
Will I be able to eat well in the Club?
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Cab should not be more than 25-30€. You can stay at the club from 10 to 4 without any problems, breakfast is excellent, dinner is ok. Have fun.
HB
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[QUOTE=Milktrayman]Apart from needing boundless energy are there any problems with doing this?[/QUOTE]
There is no problem going outside for a while, either. Just talk to the reception. Very helpful. There is a blond woman who can be a bit bitchy/strict, but in the end even she is helpful.
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[QUOTE=Milktrayman]I seem to have lost my first post but here goes again.
I am thinking of visiting the Palace on a flying visit. Can anyone advise what the taxi fare is from Frankfurt Airport to the Club?
I am thinking of staying in the club from around opening to closing and then flying out on day 2. Apart from needing boundless energy are there any problems with doing this?
Will I be able to eat well in the Club?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I think Hessen Bub is right on the taxis from memory. And of course trains and such will be scarce, if not non-existent, at closing time.
I think spending the whole day is a great idea. Great experience probably if you pace yourself. Certainly visually. Remember it's really like two different days, as it is calmer, less full and more relaxed until about 18.00, then the energy levels and numbers in the club can rise dramatically. Perhaps try to get in some quality sessions early, when the girls tend to be more relaxed themselves, and then you can lie back, enjoy the scene, fend off the inevitable heavy-selling operators and still choose some final fun in due course.
Have fun, and do report.
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Thanks to you all for the excellent information. It does seem to make sense to spend a decent amount of time at the club and pace it out!
Can you get a beer at a reasonable price and do they charge it to your account and you pay on exiting?