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[QUOTE=Le Lion;1069407]It's true, I also have a Korean friend who spent 3 months in jail after being jumped by a guy in Hongdae because he was talking to his girlfriend. My friend broke the guy's arm when he wrestled him down. So the rule is 1. Never get in to fights in Korea 2. If someone wants to fight you, try to get away from there asap.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the advice, but foreigners are becoming quite panzi here. Korean guys are mostly bark. If they give you trouble, just play with them, use sarcasm. They'll know you are screwing with them, but their culture doesn't really include vague mocking-facades. If one must fight just push him and hold him down until he submits. Time to end the wimpiness.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit; 1081264]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).

Example A:

Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play 'challenge' games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ('losing face') , and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).

Example B:

Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view) , staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head) , with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing 'cute' games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).

Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target 'lose face'. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location) , but can't figure out to counteract this one. [/QUOTE]What I would do in Korea was to play along, like a lampoon from Airport the movie. The Koreans don't have this kind of humor, but it can be followed if done silly. This will put the racist in his tracks and elevates you with the woman because you didn't go for the bait (anger). Incidentally, I may just have a canned line to anger him and move on, depending on the situation. Some Korean women have these men around so they can just enjoy the music or tend to their man-herd (something I'm not accosumted to in Asia). The woman can tease without worrying about male attention and the man can harass foreigners.

P. S. Jackson should be aware that there are professional Korean racist groups that infiltrate these kind of sites (think English Spectrum). They report them to the Korean authorities and have been known to glean information from such sites and make Nazi-esque documentaries, or failing that, commit cyber attacks, I kid you not.

In their annual sweep to "clean up the streets", LEO is targeting the Kiss Rooms this time.

[url]http://asiancorrespondent.com/46581/kiss-rooms-raided/[/url]

[QUOTE=Jesterl;1114686]If one must fight just push him and hold him down until he submits. Time to end the wimpiness.[/QUOTE]Nope. That just gives his friends time to keep you there till the police arrive (assuming they don't jump you while you're "submitting" their friend; Koreans are like Thais. They LOVE their 5-on-1 beatdowns) and him the opportunity to claim you injured his arm (his doctor will confirm it) , and you will be out of pocket for several million in blood money, which you'll pay or go to jail.

If you MUST fight (can't avoid it for whatever reason) , fight dirty and high tail it immediately. Kick to the balls, suckerpunch to break the nose, then leg it. Course, if they know who you are or where you work / live, this is bad idea because then you're back to paying blood money once the police track you down.

It's got nothing to do with being "panzi" (sic) or wimpiness. When it comes to fights, Korean police always come down on the side of the Korean. The foreigner always loses. To whit: (1) A former co-worker walking down the street with his fiancee got jumped by 6 guys in Hongdae who didn't like that a "pervert foreigner" was holding hands with a "pure Korean woman". The 6 attackers were allowed to leave immediately, my co-worker was arrested and spent the night in jail. (2) A former colleague had his head bashed in with a pipe (a premeditated and unprovoked act) , got staples in his head, nearly died, the whole bit. The police let the attacker go and kept my friend-still bleeding profusely-in the police station for 6 hours to answer questions while they debated whether or not to book him. THEN they took him to the hospital.

Coitus68 is absolutely right. In any kind of legal incident in Korea, the foreigner is automatically "at fault." I had a coworker that had his home broken into. He caught the guy and forcibly held him until the police arrived. When they came in, he said they instructed his wife to serve coffee to them and the crook, while questioning him about his methods to keep the crook around for them. He was warned that he could spend time in jail if the guy wanted to press charges for assault.

As badly as the Koreans treat all foreigners, I think we would all be smart to move out and let North Korea overrun these conceited bastards in the south.

IMHO

[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1114701]Nope. That just gives his friends time to keep you there till the police arrive (assuming they don't jump you while you're "submitting" their friend; Koreans are like Thais. They LOVE their 5-on-1 beatdowns) and him the opportunity to claim you injured his arm (his doctor will confirm it) , and you will be out of pocket for several million in blood money, which you'll pay or go to jail.

If you MUST fight (can't avoid it for whatever reason) , fight dirty and high tail it immediately. Kick to the balls, suckerpunch to break the nose, then leg it. Course, if they know who you are or where you work / live, this is bad idea because then you're back to paying blood money once the police track you down.

It's got nothing to do with being "panzi" (sic) or wimpiness. When it comes to fights, Korean police always come down on the side of the Korean. The foreigner always loses. To whit: (1) A former co-worker walking down the street with his fiancee got jumped by 6 guys in Hongdae who didn't like that a "pervert foreigner" was holding hands with a "pure Korean woman". The 6 attackers were allowed to leave immediately, my co-worker was arrested and spent the night in jail. (2) A former colleague had his head bashed in with a pipe (a premeditated and unprovoked act) , got staples in his head, nearly died, the whole bit. The police let the attacker go and kept my friend-still bleeding profusely-in the police station for 6 hours to answer questions while they debated whether or not to book him. THEN they took him to the hospital. [/QUOTE]Point taken. In Japan, the foreigner often loses too, but the police won't fight frustrated men's battles. I've known foreigners really act rudely and not be arrested. It was seen as clowny fun as an adolescent and he was let go, no booking. I just can't get over the idea that foreigners in Korea are seen as wimps that won't fight back. The Koreans are bigger than Japanese now (though still smaller than us) , have been told we did nothing to protect or develop their economy.

[QUOTE=Jesterl;1115027]Point taken. In Japan, the foreigner often loses too, but the police won't fight frustrated men's battles.[/QUOTE]Japanese police are a whole other animal from the Korean Keystone Kops. When I lived in Japan, the last thing I wanted to happen was be arrested and hauled in to a Japanese police station. You don't raise your voice with them or give them any reason whatsoever to arrest you, or you'll find yourself in jail cell being held anywhere from 30-60 days without being allowed to contact counsel or embassy.

OTOH, I've seen people spit on, slap, kick, and hit Korean cops, and the cops DID NOTHING, just got in their car and drove off, allowing them to continue doing what they were doing to have the cop stop them in the first place. They're an impotent joke (except when they wish to screw the foreigner).

I'll be Seoul on business for a few in weeks in February and have never been there. When possible usually go to Philippines or HK.

Not familiar with parts of city yet and have been trying to read the reviews here but not getting where som of the best places are to go for a full service massage.

If you can help and give me some names, locations and prices to a non-korean speaking newbie her I would appreciate it.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1115043]Japanese police are a whole other animal from the Korean Keystone Kops. When I lived in Japan, the last thing I wanted to happen was be arrested and hauled in to a Japanese police station. You don't raise your voice with them or give them any reason whatsoever to arrest you, or you'll find yourself in jail cell being held anywhere from 30-60 days without being allowed to contact counsel or embassy.

OTOH, I've seen people spit on, slap, kick, and hit Korean cops, and the cops DID NOTHING, just got in their car and drove off, allowing them to continue doing what they were doing to have the cop stop them in the first place. They're an impotent joke (except when they wish to screw the foreigner). [/QUOTE]I can't comment on the Jap police having never been there, but I can tell you with the utmost assurance as I know several CID guys that all is video recorded if it happens on the street.

Most don't know that virtually on every street light is a video camera and the police are recording. If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police. You have to be squeaky clean though, I. E. Not coming out of a *house and getting into a fight. That is advice straight from the US police here (yes they are here).

OTOH, I am tired of all the cock blocking bullshit from these K guys. I mean Jesus, are these guys really that insecure? For some reason, the K guys have taken the cock block to a whole new level. My buddy doesn't seem to mind though, he just ignores them and keeps up his game with the chick and eventually she gives up the digits. Then they hook up for later without the blocker (s) around. I have personally watched this 4-5 times, and he scored with every chick. Although he told me one was a complete dud.

I guess my advice would be to act like they are not there and continue with the game plan. One K guy shouted to me in a bar,"I am Police! This is my girlfriend!" To which the girl replied that she didn't know the guy. Still, he grabbed her arm and led her away forcibly from me at the bar. At that point it was 3am and I was like,"WTF". I could of cared less, but still it pissed me off later when I was thinking about it. So when I saw him outside the bar after closing time, he approached me and I asked him if he felt like Superman. He responded with suprise, and I told him he was going flying down the subway stairs. His response? He ran off like a scared little girl. Guys, man up and don't fall the K guys bullshit. Not inciting violence here, just stand up for yourself.

After a horrible hill visit (see MILF) and some disappointing K girl freebies, I am back to fucking American girls. A little bit bigger, but the pussy is still good. Just not great.

[QUOTE=Carmex;1116396]If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police.[/QUOTE]No they won't. They will provide you a lawyer, who will make sure your rights are not being trampled, but the embassy won't "back you". They will not interfere in the laws and enforcement of those laws of another sovereign country.

I went to see Cherry in Happy Days on the hill tonight. I can highly recommend her to anyone, especially if you like big tits, she has a great pair. I think she is a great fuck too, and really nice.

I was also tempted by a blond girl at the bar called Moon Shine. Has anyone been with her? I think she will be my next target, but would be fun to hear if someone has any experience with her.

There are too many opportunities for everyone here. Why do people have so much energy to waste being jealous and cockblocking. Don't worry about the cockblocking and just be creative about this. Don't give up so easily and think of a new and interesting approach to girls. There is no one perfect answer as far as approach and if you make a reasonable effort then at least they will have coffee or dinner with you. Just care about her and listen carefully. Sometimes the "English teacher wild card" approach always works because they are trying to get a job throught their high TOEIC tests. Go read Cosmopolitan magazine or Korean fashion magazines and just try to know what their interests are. This is much easier than in the states. Just get their curiosity and your curiosity. Love and sex is all about curiosity.

This is my 2 cents.

Had a good session with Kelly in Best bar up on the Hill. Early 30's (which I really like) , nice little A-cups and a cute face. She deep throats like a champ and she squirts when she cums. Lovely wet pussy and she let me CIM to finish. Getting horny just thinking about it!

[QUOTE=Carmex; 1116396]I can't comment on the Jap police having never been there, but I can tell you with the utmost assurance as I know several CID guys that all is video recorded if it happens on the street.

Most don't know that virtually on every street light is a video camera and the police are recording. If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police. You have to be squeaky clean though, I. E. Not coming out of a *house and getting into a fight. That is advice straight from the US police here (yes they are here).

OTOH, I am tired of all the cock blocking bullshit from these K guys. I mean Jesus, are these guys really that insecure? For some reason, the K guys have taken the cock block to a whole new level. My buddy doesn't seem to mind though, he just ignores them and keeps up his game with the chick and eventually she gives up the digits. Then they hook up for later without the blocker (s) around. I have personally watched this 4-5 times, and he scored with every chick. Although he told me one was a complete dud.

I guess my advice would be to act like they are not there and continue with the game plan. One K guy shouted to me in a bar,"I am Police! This is my girlfriend!" To which the girl replied that she didn't know the guy. Still, he grabbed her arm and led her away forcibly from me at the bar. At that point it was 3am and I was like,"WTF". I could of cared less, but still it pissed me off later when I was thinking about it. So when I saw him outside the bar after closing time, he approached me and I asked him if he felt like Superman. He responded with suprise, and I told him he was going flying down the subway stairs. His response? He ran off like a scared little girl. Guys, man up and don't fall the K guys bullshit. Not inciting violence here, just stand up for yourself.

After a horrible hill visit (see MILF) and some disappointing K girl freebies, I am back to fucking American girls. A little bit bigger, but the pussy is still good. Just not great.[/QUOTE]Hello,

I have never been to korea. But, it sounds like a crazy place. What is cockblock? If I can ask you. What are korean guys doing to foreigners? Can I guess, do you mean, when you try to talk to a korean girl, the other korean guys who don't know this girl, don't want you a foreigner to talk to korean women? Is that what you mean?

If this is the case, then yell back at these korean guys, who are being the ass hole. You should be even more determined to talk to korean women. Never let them get the upper hand.

I have traveled all over asia, japan, taiwan, Thailand, China, phillippines for mongering. I am Taiwanese my self. I have never heard of anyone trying to block another guy from talking to a woman. Of course, I have never been to korea. Maybe I don't want to give korea my business now.

Of course, in my humble opinion, you should not start a fist fight in a foreign country. But, don't back down, or let them yell at you, you yell back. And You out stair them. You go talk to any women you like. Don't let these weirdos mess with you.

Good luck

Just thought I should write a report on when I visited the Cheongnyangni RLD early last month. I've visited Cheongnyangni several times in the past and all of them were pretty disappointing visits because the girls are seriously like robots. Anyway there was a huge selection of new faces. I found this one really young-looking girl who was incredibly cute. Normally I go for girls with hot bodies specifically big natural tits (if you read my past reports, you will know I'm a boobs man). But I decided to let this one slide because her face was really cute and I couldn't resist it.

So I walk in and she welcomes me. As usual I gave her 70, 000won as we sat on her bed and chatted a bit. She asked me if I wanted a shower which was the first time I've experienced this in my RLD trips. In all my RLD visits, the girls will usually wipe my groin area with wet tissue or bring in a bucket of water / soap and wash my dick.

I already showered before I came so I declined. After we got naked, she literally threw me down to her bed and it was the usual session: licking my nipples, blowjob without condom (usually in Cheongnyangni it's BJ with condom) , and then she got on top of me and rode me. Her pussy was awfully tight and it was actually hurting my johnson. She tried to kiss me as well which was odd for me since it normally never happens. She was sweating all over her back and I figured she was getting tried, so we switched to doggy for awhile and then I finished her missionary although it seriously took me awhile to cum (she didn't seem to be in a rush though).

In my previous RLD experiences, after our session the girl will usually clean my dick with wet tissue or with a bucket of water / soap. But none of those were around so she told me to go in the shower room and wash myself. We chatted and laughed afterwards. She told me she's been working at the RLD for one year, but that's got to be untrue since I've never seen her face before in the past. After my time was up she actually walked me to the exit which was a shocker. Usually, the girls will leave the room and go back to sitting on the chair to wait for more customers when you're getting dressed up. Surprising. In conclusion, as much as she is really cute and her manners were very pleasing and kind, the sex wasn't anything special and I actually had to try to force myself to cum as odd as it might sound.