[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898511]I have been in Bangkok for four evenings and thought I would send out a quick review of my experiences so far.[/QUOTE]What a helpful and informative report. Big thanks to Tex Guy for taking the time to post.
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[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898511]I have been in Bangkok for four evenings and thought I would send out a quick review of my experiences so far.[/QUOTE]What a helpful and informative report. Big thanks to Tex Guy for taking the time to post.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2898538]Billboard has a huge bath tub with half a dozen topless girls standing around, not even shaking their butts to the music. Most bar girls have fake boobs, may be also fake asses.
Nana Plaza bars are full of girls, just standing around looking dumb, tired and unattractive like meats, also full of mostly farangs, but most were just drinking and watching girls on stage, very few drink and talk with girls but no touch or grope, even fewer take girls out to hotels, like 1 to 2 %. 3,000 to 4,000 be for ST plus 700 to 1,000 bar fine would take each session up to about $140-150. No wonder few guys take up bar girls. Same prices and situation with bars on Soi Cowboy and the strip club around the corner.
Hong Kong club in Tijuana now costs $120 for a ST with a girl, plus $40 for ST room and lots of hands out for tips along the way, total about $180 per session, but at night on weekend a steady stream of guys take girls to hotel, like every 2 minutes or so.
When will Bangkok bars jazz up the shows with more beautiful girls and sexier contents, reduce their ridiculous prices for STs and bar fines to ramp up business?[/QUOTE]I think a reasonable answer to your question is probably never. It is fair to assume that these go go bars hire just about any young girl that is looking to work and make money. From what I have seen, many bars are struggling to put girls on their stages even on a Friday or Saturday night. If you are a super hot Thai girl, you are finding a rich man online, working at a g club, or one of the high-end soapies. BTW, I hit Nana several nights in a row and I would estimate that farang represented less than 5% of the customers in the plaza. I was often the only white guy in any club I went to. I saw tons of Chinese, lots of Koreans, and some Japanese. When the Chinese economy implodes, which most international economists are predicting it has already begun to do, prices will eventually reset and Bangkok bar owners will be forced to be creative to attract customers or close.
As for HK, great club with tons of girls especially on the weekends. The guys that cross the border into Tijuana are, for the most part, looking for sex with a hot Latina. They can hangout with their buddies at any strip club in So Cal if they don't want sex. I think HK attracts young guys in So Cal that have money to piss away.
Definately bring your own condoms from your country on your vacation. And bring them on all outings as you never know when a massage will lead to sex. Thai condoms you can buy in Bkk, and what the girls all bring with them, are small compared to condoms from other countries.
Don't trust pics off the internet. Cute girls from a website will show up and be a girl you never would have selected from Thermae where you get to observe the girl first. That is why Thermae is so great. From websites, either it will NOT be the girl you selected, or the pics are old, or they were glam shots and didn't show her fat *ss. LOL.
If you want BBBJ, make sure you ask the agency or girls first. It is hit or miss. Even Analisse massage, which specializes in glory hole (ie milking table massage), only allowed CBJ. So shocking. Yet a good girl from a high end, real massage shop, one with a concierge and serves you hot tea before and after, gave a BBBJ. So it is hit or miss, so be sure to specify before hand.
At Thermae, I tell the girl what I want: DATY, BBBJ etc. And ask if they have a child. But sometimes if she has a child, she will have had a see-section so her puss is still in good shape for DATY. Best is a thin, tight, young girl with no kids for DATY.
I took a third girl from Thermae and she was an actress. She had a whole production she used on the guys. Bunch of bouncing around, and fake moans and pleas for you to cum etc all in an effort to take as little sex from you as possible. So odd to observe. The other 2 girls I took from Thermae were young and loved the sex, DATY etc.
It must be in their culture, as Thai girls here love to lick a man's nipples. They don't know it does nothing for us. LOL.
All in all, BKK is a great place for sex. The hard part is filling the daytimes. Little opens until 5 or 6 pm, and Thermae opens at 8 pm. Yes, massage parlors are open most of the day, but like I have said, finding decent girls there is hard to do. So I tried calling in girls off the web and dealt with inaccurate pics etc. Stay up late and get up late, and hang around the pool, then go out after dinner. Just a thought.
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I did pull a girl from the street outside Thermae one night. As a coincidence, she was someone I saw online and had been texting through WhatsApp. She quoted me 10,000 TBH through text, but on the street she asked for 4,000 TBH. This girl was on par with any of the girls at the soapies, but there was a suspicion that she might be a lady boy. She promised me that she was not, but there is a part of me that thinks I might have been with a post-op woman. I did not go down on her to explore vaginal area, but I imagine doctors in Thailand are pretty clever at creating a vagina. She was beautiful, but I do not plan to see her again.
[/QUOTE]Great report. About the paragraph above: next time if you are unsure, just ask to see her ID. All thais have to carry their thai ID card with them, and it says "Ms" or "Mr" in english on it, thankfully regardless of any operations. If you worry about offending her, you can just make it out to be to verify her age. I. e. , she says she's 30, but you don't believe it, "nooo, you look soooo young. Not 30 for sure. Blah-blah. No, I don't believe you, ha-ha. Show me your ID. ".
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2898502]We are supposed to be source of Information not Mis-information. LOL. Hahaha.
Thermae prostitoots can be had Long time if you Schooze them with Don Quijoto Sweet Talk.
Can someone Confirm. LOL. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Confirmed.
NOw give back Schoolgirl.
Anybody here witness the ladyboy riot on Soi 11 the other night?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2898717]Confirmed.
NOw give back Schoolgirl.[/QUOTE]Saw this on John Nothing Going on You tube stream.
Look like they were waiting to catch a Glimpse of Michael Jackson or Taylor Swift.
In what I could tell from angry lady bugs. About 200 lady bugs were waiting to punch out a Filipino Ladybug. Animosity like BLM days. I thought they were going to burn down that Soi.
One of the Uglier Lady Bugs said Thailand is her country. I take that as someone showed large amounts ofdis respect.
I've stayed that Soi many a nights.
Will be touching down April 1. Tax rework scaring off us Rich Folk.
On you tube comments many are going to keep their days on Thai soil under 180 days.
We don't want to get up in Thai bearacracy. Imagine if Thai ask to see USA TurboTax return and you plop 200 pages on their desk and they tell you to translate to Thai language.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;2898654]Definately bring your own condoms from your country on your vacation. And bring them on all outings as you never know when a massage will lead to sex. Thai condoms you can buy in Bkk, and what the girls all bring with them, are small compared to condoms from other countries.
Don't trust pics off the internet. Cute girls from a website will show up and be a girl you never would have selected from Thermae where you get to observe the girl first. That is why Thermae is so great. From websites, either it will NOT be the girl you selected, or the pics are old, or they were glam shots and didn't show her fat *ss. LOL.
If you want BBBJ, make sure you ask the agency or girls first. It is hit or miss. Even Analisse massage, which specializes in glory hole (ie milking table massage), only allowed CBJ. So shocking. Yet a good girl from a high end, real massage shop, one with a concierge and serves you hot tea before and after, gave a BBBJ. So it is hit or miss, so be sure to specify before hand.
At Thermae, I tell the girl what I want: DATY, BBBJ etc. And ask if they have a child. But sometimes if she has a child, she will have had a see-section so her puss is still in good shape for DATY. Best is a thin, tight girl with no kids for DATY.
I took a third girl from Thermae and she was an actress. She had a whole production she used on the guys. Bunch of bouncing around, and fake moans and pleas for you to cum etc all in an effort to take as little sex from you as possible. So odd to observe. The other 2 girls I took from Thermae were young and loved the sex, DATY etc.
It must be in their culture, as Thai girls here love to lick a man's nipples. They don't know it does nothing for us. LOL.
All in all, BKK is a great place for sex. The hard part is filling the daytimes. Little opens until 5 or 6 pm, and Thermae opens at 8 pm. Yes, massage parlors are open most of the day, but like I have said, finding decent girls there is hard to do. So I tried calling in girls off the web and dealt with inaccurate pics etc. Stay up late and get up late, and hang around the pool, then go out after dinner. Just a thought.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] On earth, we tend to spend our days in Bangkok at all the various gorgeous what is. What pho, what Arun, what traimint, the golden mountain, what paknam, what prayun, what this, what that. That's not even counting the various markets, parks, monuments, palaces, restaurants, Canal boats and etc.
Licking nipples is a technique they use to delay sucking on your turgid member. I let them lick for a few minutes before I grab them by the neck and stuff it.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2898721]Anybody here witness the ladyboy riot on Soi 11 the other night?[/QUOTE]A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13158213/Huge-transsexual-prostitute-brawl-sees-strong-ladyboy-mob-fighting-Bangkok-turf-war-escorts-clambering-tear-rivals-clothes-throw-punches.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2898796]A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13158213/Huge-transsexual-prostitute-brawl-sees-strong-ladyboy-mob-fighting-Bangkok-turf-war-escorts-clambering-tear-rivals-clothes-throw-punches.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm totally devastated that I miss that. I should have been there it would have been the highlight of my life.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898511]I have been in Bangkok for four evenings and thought I would send out a quick review of my experiences so far..[/QUOTE]For me, the most informative and comprehensively written report in this forum for a long time. Thanks. If you had to rank the high end soapies not based on price but on how much you enjoyed the experience in each (not just time with the girl (s) but facilities etc) what would your ranking be and why. Great report.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2898796]A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13158213/Huge-transsexual-prostitute-brawl-sees-strong-ladyboy-mob-fighting-Bangkok-turf-war-escorts-clambering-tear-rivals-clothes-throw-punches.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I just wanted to point out what I feel is continued lazy or perhaps politically motivated reporting by many foreign media outlets and I suppose even some domestic Thai ones regarding the "crime" or not of consenting adults over the age of 18 exchanging money for sex in Thailand.
In this United Kingdom media report I see it mentioned that prostitution is "technically illegal" in Thailand. If that is true I have yet to see a specific, "technical", literal or implied statement to that effect in the Thai Criminal / Penal Code. Not simply for consenting adults exchanging money for sex, that is.
Nor have I read about or met anyone in the 12 years I have lived in and around the ground zero Red Light districts of Bangkok who ever got busted and charged for this, imo, non existant "technical" crime in Thailand. Neither a customer nor a provider of the service here. Not even Freelancers who work the street and have never worked in or for a bar, a massage shop, an escort service, etc.
Even in this report it is asserted that these are Thai and Philippino Ladyboys in front of a hotel on Soi 11, no mention of them working in a bar or being bargirls / barboys working in a bar, engaged in deadly (stilettos involved) violence. Yet they are not arrested for this supposedly "technical" crime of prostitution but only for not having the right visa or work permit to ply their apparently perfectly legal trade.
Then they go on to explain that away by saying some British bar owners keep the police at bay on this issue through regular payments to them.
Really? Who are these genius British bar owners that regularly pay the police to leave Philippino Ladyboy Freelancers working the street alone? You know, Freelancer street girls and boys who, if they have prostitutes who actually work IN and FOR those British-owned bars, would only provide competition for the baht that I can only presume those British bar owners would much prefer be spent on their girls rather than on any Thai or Philippino street girls.
Do British bar owners really pay the cops to leave those Freelancer street workers alone? Why on earth would they do that? LOL.
The easy, lazy, non researched yet routinely repeated nonsense regarding P4 P in Thailand seem to be crashing into one another willy-nilly in that one report.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2898847]For me, the most informative and comprehensively written report in this forum for a long time. Thanks. If you had to rank the high end soapies not based on price but on how much you enjoyed the experience in each (not just time with the girl (s) but facilities etc) what would your ranking be and why. Great report.[/QUOTE]Really tough question, but I would lean towards La Belle for overall best value.
La Belle. Most convenient location to where I normally stay. It's a large place and I like the huge viewing area. If you have seen online images, they have a row of sideline girls to your right sitting in barstools and then all of the other girls sitting up on small sofas in stadium seating. It is very well illuminated so you really see all of the girls. The rooms are all very clean, but somewhat needing an update / remodel. The talent is consistently solid and the service in the room is always good. Go in around 5:30 and 6:00 for the best selection. Food is also pretty good with a large menu. Beer is always cold and the servers are quick and friendly. I always tip the papasan generously here. I am a white guy and I have been here enough to know that Asian customers get preferential treatment. I tip generously because when I am ready to pick a girl I want him right there to get her for me. Too many times in years past the girl I wanted to select got picked by an Asian customer because my papasan was attending to his preferred Asian customers. Yes, you can be eyeing a girl and narrowing down your decision. Within seconds, another customer could walk in and immediately pick a girl you wanted to go with. If you are a white guy, tip the papasan generously if you want good service from him and for him to be attentive. Lastly, he can help you with the girl if she is hesitant to go with a white man. He will also tell the girl that you are a very good customer and to give you very good service. Yes, the girls do not want you coming back downstairs and complaining to the papasan about her service. I was told a papasan gets paid 100 TBH each time his customer takes a girl to a room. Seems low to be, but I am from another part of the world. I tip generously here and some might think it's stupid, but good service is important to me.
Black Caviar. Probably the nicest building, but the viewing area to me is kind of odd unless you are one that is comfortable standing in front of a large group of girls and checking them out. You can also sit on a large sofa and the mamasan will bring over the girls to stand in front of you to select. I think the facilities are very nice here. There are a ton of gorgeous girls here. Go here and you will definitely struggle selecting a girl because they are all so hot. As a causasion American, I did not truly feel as welcome here as La Belle. This may sound odd, but the girls here would rather take an ugly Chinese guy to a room than go to a room with Bradley Cooper or Tom Cruise. Yes, you can anticipate being discriminated here for your skin color. It does not matter what you look like, how you dress, or how wealthy you might be. If you are white, you are NOT their preferred customer. I think the only way to overcome this is to be a regular customer and be super nice and gentlemanly to any girl you take to a room. The night I left on my last visit, the girl I went to the room with gave me a wave goodbye and blew me a kiss in front of all of the other girls. The girls that do not normally like white men will notice how you treat girls you go to a room with and how they react to you.
Maria Massage. You will be impressed the moment you walk into this building. It's beautiful and grand. The viewing area is okay, but they have large pillars that can block your view. The girls all sit on a really long sofa / bench and you will likely see 100+ girls. The sideline girls are way over on the right side and you need to get up and go over to check them out. To me, the sideline girls are not that much better looking than the other girls, but the prices are steep for these girls. Similar to the other places, you will struggle to select a girl because there are so many beautiful women.
Tera Entertainment. About a 30 minute drive from the Nana Plaza area, it's a very beautiful building and you will be impressed the moment you enter the driveway. The viewing area is a little unusual. There are dining tables lined up in front of the viewing area and there are sideline girls sitting on stools around the bar to the far left. When I first arrived there were no girls sitting in the viewing area and I almost walked out. The papasan assured me the girls were down the hall for a customer presentation. Sure enough they all came walking back to the viewing area and they were gorgeous. I made a poor selection here due to my impatience. She was cute and was wearing a short leather skirt that looked sexy. I picked her because she just appeared to be a really nice girl and she was, but there were so many other girls much more beautiful. After my session, I sat down for a coffee and contemplated selecting another girl for round two. There were 6-7 that were just my type and gorgeous, but I just didn't have it in me to go for another round. I will say the only really negative was how inattentive my papasan was. I might have gone for round 2 if he was even around to help me select a girl.
A couple notes of caution. All of these girls will be dressed in beautiful dresses with high heels. The hair, the makeup, the nails, will all be done perfect. When you get the girl back to the room and the dress comes off, do not expect perfection. Some will have tattoos, stretch marks on their tiny Thai butt, smaller boobs, and not look as good close up as she did from a distance. Oddly, Listerine just doesn't mask the bad breath on some girls either. I wish all of the girls were sitting in bikinis or sexy lingerie, but who cares what I think. Lastly, if you are a caucasion man or a man of color, expect to be discriminated upon and not being treated the same as Asian men. I cannot stress this enough. Expect it going in and be happy if you are not. It does not matter how well you are dressed or how much money have, a Chinese or Japanese customer will be treated much better than you. Yes, girls may actually refuse to go to a room with you because you are not Asian. I don't like it, but I accept it because I am in their country. I have been told repeatedly it is not about skin color and it is 100% about penis size. I have been told this so many times by Thai girls I know and trust that I now accept it. A thai girl working in Nana Plaza might be more used to it than a girl working in a soapy where 95% of the customers are Asian men.
I stumbled upon this place the other day and thought I would recommend it. The girls are young and super cute. Not the gorgeous girls you find in the high-end soapies, but really cute and a big step above what you find in bar girls in Nana or Cowboy. I visited one afternoon and was quite impressed.
Okay, so to me this is where the real value of this place is. Check out the prices for outside service. 7,500 TBH for 6 hours and unlimited shots. That's about $200 USD for a beautiful young Thai girl to come to your hotel for 6 hours. While the trans brawl was happening on the street steps from my hotel, I was up in my room with a beautiful naked Thai girl all night. It was spectacular.
[URL]https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/price-page-e.html[/URL]
I had a terrific time at Butterfly, although I did not take the girl back to my hotel.
You will notice that some of the girls advertise that they do BBFS (2000 baht surcharge), which is highly unusual for a massage place, but I can confirm it is true. Some of the other girls advertise that they do swinging. This is of interest to me.
Does anyone know of any swingers clubs in Bangkok? If so, please either post your experience or PM me.
THANKS. MG.