Panama City

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2150850]Please tell us more about the drunk chica who smashed up the room. Seriously, I've never heard of chicas doing stuff like this. Was she Colombian?[/QUOTE]Yes she was. The three of us went out drinking and she had been drinking all day already and matched me drink for drink and I can drink a lot. Went outside to have a smoke at a club in Casco Viejo and she was crying and they were arguing so I got the hell out of there. Evidently she got jealous on him. I get a call at 5 am they are in the lobby of the hotel with the cops. Even though they knew the chica was at fault they tried to fleece my buddy for 3000 in damages. He got them down to 600. They had agreed on 200 all night and she tried to demand 300 from him, which he reluctantly paid, and that was another point of contention. She met him the next day to apologize profusely and he demanded that she bring the $100 she stole from him (above the agreed price). Of course she was so sorry for her actions but forgot the $100.

[QUOTE=Rog123;2150842]Maybe the manager didn't want us to come back and lied to me. My wingman wifed up the first night and this girl went crazy one night (drunk) and smashed up his hotel room. Cops were called and he had to pay $600 for damage. This didn't involve me but maybe guilty by association.[/QUOTE]And now we know the [I]rest[/I] of the story.

[QUOTE=Rog123;2150875]Yes she was. The three of us went out drinking and she had been drinking all day already and matched me drink for drink and I can drink a lot. Went outside to have a smoke at a club in Casco Viejo and she was crying and they were arguing so I got the hell out of there. Evidently she got jealous on him. I get a call at 5 am they are in the lobby of the hotel with the cops. Even though they knew the chica was at fault they tried to fleece my buddy for 3000 in damages. He got them down to 600. They had agreed on 200 all night and she tried to demand 300 from him, which he reluctantly paid, and that was another point of contention. She met him the next day to apologize profusely and he demanded that she bring the $100 she stole from him (above the agreed price). Of course she was so sorry for her actions but forgot the $100.[/QUOTE]You expect the Hyatt to try to collect from an unregistered guest instead of the guy who brought the person in? LOL. Come on, man.

[QUOTE=Rog123;2150875]They had agreed on 200 all night and she tried to demand 300 from him, which he reluctantly paid[/QUOTE]That was some pretty good negotiating right there. Now your wingman will say that the 'going rate' must be 300 and not 200. I assume this gentleman is from the Yew Ess? Who wifes up on their first night in a mongering destination with a drunk chica? Who 'meets up the next day' with someone who trashed out their hotel room? You need to hit this guy upside the head with a sock full of nickels before you get to the outbound airport next time he wants to travel with you.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2150898]That was some pretty good negotiating right there. Now your wingman will say that the 'going rate' must be 300 and not 200. I assume this gentleman is from the Yew Ess? Who wifes up on their first night in a mongering destination with a drunk chica? Who 'meets up the next day' with someone who trashed out their hotel room? You need to hit this guy upside the head with a sock full of nickels before you get to the outbound airport next time he wants to travel with you.[/QUOTE]I thought she was an awesome girl before this incident. Guess she showed her true colors. Like my buddy I always try to get a girl I get along well with and will see her multiple times for GFE. Didn't happen for me on this trip. When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point? $200 I think is a fair negotiation in panama for a 24 hour date but he never did or would agree to 300. He is new to international mongering but I am sure he learned many lessons in this visit!

So you are saying you knew her before but he did not? Kinda confused because you said it was his first night.

'When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point?

Umm well, if the cops are already on the way, why give the ho another hundie? What purpose does that serve? I would have left the premises, actually, although this would never have happened to me because I would not have brought a drunk chica I had never met before up to my hotel room.

Unless I was drunk, of course. But I have the guts to physically throw a chica out of my room if necessary, although I have never had to do so. One time a chica passed out in my room and would not wake up and I pulled her and the sheets off the bed, dragged both out into the hall, pulled the sheets out from under her, and left her out there in the hallway. She was fully clothed. That was about as close as it came. I pulled her all the way down to the elevator so that she would be found more quickly. I think she shot up in my bathroom. That was forty years ago in Bogotá.

Now if you could explain why he agreed to meet her again, that might be instructive.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2150906]So you are saying you knew her before but he did not? Kinda confused because you said it was his first night.

'When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point?

Umm well, if the cops are already on the way, why give the ho another hundie? What purpose does that serve? I would have left the premises, actually, although this would never have happened to me because I would not have brought a drunk chica I had never met before up to my hotel room.

Unless I was drunk, of course. But I have the guts to physically throw a chica out of my room if necessary, although I have never had to do so. One time a chica passed out in my room and would not wake up and I pulled her and the sheets off the bed, dragged both out into the hall, pulled the sheets out from under her, and left her out there in the hallway. She was fully clothed. That was about as close as it came. I pulled her all the way down to the elevator so that she would be found more quickly. I think she shot up in my bathroom. That was forty years ago in Bogot.

Now if you could explain why he agreed to meet her again, that might be instructive.[/QUOTE]He met her the first day of a weeklong trip and this happened on his last day. He wanted to get his money is why he agreed to meet her.

[QUOTE=Rog123;2150900]I thought she was an awesome girl before this incident. Guess she showed her true colors. Like my buddy I always try to get a girl I get along well with and will see her multiple times for GFE. Didn't happen for me on this trip. When the girl is busting up his place with cops on the way and she is demanding $300 what is he going to do at that point? $200 I think is a fair negotiation in panama for a 24 hour date but he never did or would agree to 300. He is new to international mongering but I am sure he learned many lessons in this visit![/QUOTE]I have to say. I'm really glad I monger in Colombia and haven't mongered in Panama for a couple of years now. In Colombia $300 is almost a million pesos. That would get you steady pussy for a week in some cities like Medellin.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2150830]The going rate ain't $150. It is $100 and so that would be 5. 5% annual inflation over 30 years. High by US standards but not by Latin Amrican standards. I have never even paid $100 at Hbanos, although it has been a year and half. So maybe I would now, but not $150. And I guarantee you I would get a decent chica every night for that. Every trip I read about the going rate being X, and every trip I never pay that. Maybe my Spanish is better. Maybe my negotiating skills are better. Maybe I have more patience. Maybe all of the above. I don't know. Last I heard, minimum wage in Panam was about $2. 50 an hour so any woman who doesn't want to spend an hour with me for a week's wages, NEXT PLEASE! And that ain't even considering the Venezuela effect.[/QUOTE]The Panamanians, the chunkys and, the low hanging fruit can be had for $80-$100.

No one unless you are Brad Pitt is walking out of Habanos with a smoking hot Colombian. (and guys who have been to Habanos know the girls I am talking about) for less than $150. Maybe just maybe on a slow and desperate night $125.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2150867]It is the same story throughout ISG. Guys think that if they negotiate with a chick then she will give them worse service. Others are even embarrassed to try to talk the price down, yet aren't shy to be going with a prostitute. While others say that negotiating breaks the vibe they have going with the hooker. So they end up paying the inflated initial price that they are given.[/QUOTE]
I agree Mr E. 100%. It is the most talked about subject on ISG and its, old.
However,
It really is someones preference how they want to handle the situation. Some people aren't good negotiators, some don't want to negotiate for sex, and some like me don't really care if I pay an extra $25 or so. In my business I will negotiate and deal to the last penny but, when I fly 2000 miles and am on vacation I am not worrying about a few extra dollars. Some people feel its a game or its part of the chase to negotiate and, be able to say wow I was able to bang this hot chick for the lowest price. I suppose some people get off on it and brag about it. Thats fine and too each their own. I have no problem with that but, to those of us who pay a little more than that should be fine to. The argument that the ones who pay more are ruining it for the rest of us just doesn't fly anymore. If its that much of an issue than I guess learn to negotiate better. Step up your game.

[QUOTE=Rog123;2150914]He met her the first day of a weeklong trip and this happened on his last day. He wanted to get his money is why he agreed to meet her.[/QUOTE]OK. He wifed up the first night but this was not the first night. That makes (somewhat) more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

[QUOTE=Mfins;2150974]The Panamanians, the chunkys and, the low hanging fruit can be had for $80-$100.

No one unless you are Brad Pitt is walking out of Habanos with a smoking hot Colombian. (and guys who have been to Habanos know the girls I am talking about) for less than $150. Maybe just maybe on a slow and desperate night $125.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't go for the colombianas, but rather the panameñas, since I don't like silicone. So perhaps that is why I am not paying those amounts of money. No chunkies for me though.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2151081]Well, I don't go for the colombianas, but rather the panameas, since I don't like silicone. So perhaps that is why I am not paying those amounts of money. No chunkies for me though.[/QUOTE]But what percentage of the girls at Habanos are Panamanian? 5% maybe?

Yeah you can find Panamanian girls working elsewhere, that is more discreet, but not at Habanos. They don't want to be standing around with a bunch of Venezuelan girls in tiny skirts when their little brother or uncle walks in the place.

In my experience, about 1 in 4 in Hábanos are panameñas, often from Colóand or David.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2151649]In my experience, about 1 in 4 in Hbanos are panameas, often from Coland or David.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the demographics have changed recently, but I've met one woman from Panama in more than a dozen visits to Habanos.

[QUOTE=JLMiami;2151985]Perhaps the demographics have changed recently, but I've met one woman from Panama in more than a dozen visits to Habanos.[/QUOTE]Could be the venezolana effect. I dunno. I can smell a colombiana a mile away and don't talk to them, so maybe that skews my perception. Or yours, if you are mostly talking to silicone Sallys.