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[QUOTE=Zeos1;2738327]If your pocketbook is deep enough and you have the intention of a permanent connection, ok perhaps. But only if you have a lot of extra cash and are prepared to make a real relationship out of it if it comes to that.[/QUOTE]By real relationship do you mean one where you routinely send money and get nothing except a smaller bank account and a warm and fuzzy feeling inside in return?
Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2738340]Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you can clarify where you met this Chica, because it doesn't sound like a Centro street hoe.
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2738340]Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.[/QUOTE]Ask her how much the average Colombian makes in a month. Then when she answers say and you seriously think someone is going to give you 900,000 pesos for a couple of hours? Since 200 sounds like a low number for currency for them, they think it is nothing to us.
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2738340]Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.[/QUOTE]I feel like I reached a milestone yesterday. Sort of proud of myself. I walked from a session yesterday that I was very much looking for because I had visited before. She was almost 20 minutes late in letting me into the apartment. Then said she couldn't do an hour because she had to leave in 40 minutes. So I asked about the reduced rate / medio and it was the same as the hour. So I just said no gracias and walked. If she had apologized for the poor communication around letting me in I would have handled it differently probably. I figured I probably wouldn't have a good time at that point anyways.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2738327]I think helping out for a time may be a good thing. But there is a huge problem with getting in and not being able to get out. The issue is that the lifestyle of the gal and her child or children will rapidly change. And I'm not talking anything extravagant necessarily. I know from experience how this works. Gal 1 moved into a better apartment, still basic, but better. And gave up prostitution. Got a civi job. Problem. Big big shortfall in money for basic needs, food, rent, etc. Etc. So I continue to help. Guess what. Lifetime commitment, or in some cases just too much to afford. Believe me there is no good way to exit. People get hurt very very badly. I could elaborate but I won't. You may be helping the greatest gal in the world, you may be in love, whatever. But the minute their life improves with your contributions those contributions become a necessity. If your pocketbook is deep enough and you have the intention of a permanent connection, ok perhaps. But only if you have a lot of extra cash and are prepared to make a real relationship out of it if it comes to that.[/QUOTE]Some really good advice here. I'm a guy who made a relationship work for a couple years. The key is the relationship. There is no such thing as temporary help. As Zeos said, "help" provides an increase in standard of living. But they get accustomed to that and need your continued help. The example Zeos gives is very common.
With a relationship, it can work. But even that has challenges, depending on the living situation. But great advice, Zeos.
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2738340]Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.[/QUOTE]Better yet, explicitly state that you're talking mil pesos in your communications.
Of course, she could still try to say you agreed on a USD amount. But being very explicit that the deal in is pesos will avoid this most of the time.
I plan to stay at the Mansion for a couple of nights because I am a lazy fuck and I enjoy a pool but I am looking for a nice hotel that is guest friendly either near parque lleras or central. I know it is a big spread but still asking. First time in MDE. I have the World Traveler 69 map and intend to use and report on it but the guest at the hotel thing, I need advice.
[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2738397]I plan to stay at the Mansion for a couple of nights because I am a lazy fuck and I enjoy a pool but I am looking for a nice hotel that is guest friendly either near parque lleras or central. I know it is a big spread but still asking. First time in MDE. I have the World Traveler 69 map and intend to use and report on it but the guest at the hotel thing, I need advice.[/QUOTE]I really liked Haven. It's was pretty nice had a rooftop pool and bar and guest friendly.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2738327]I think helping out for a time may be a good thing. ....[/QUOTE]There was a young girl that just came out of period told me she didn't have money to buy food. I said take metro to me and I will buy food for her. She said she did not have Civica card. I said that was the only condition I could buy her food. She showed up because her mother gave her the taxi money. LOL. So I took her to have dinner and gave her some money to go home with, and she took taxi back.
That above is not even the observation I try to make. What happened after is she asked my wingman for money after she got money from me. I taught her a bad lesson. LOL.
My guess is the girls that take metro regularly are usually the girls with regular job. Many girls I know don't even have metro card so I guess it probably has nothing to do with P4 P.
I read complaints about guest fees at Haven. I read this on tripadvisor so it might it's best to confirm with the hotel.
[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2738398]I really liked Haven. It's was pretty nice had a rooftop pool and bar and guest friendly.[/QUOTE]
Sending money is a sucker's game.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2738050]About a year ago I posted what I called [B] Villainy's Rules [/B].
I won't repost them again (do I hear a collective sigh of relief?
Rule 3 [B]A[/B].
[B]Never[/B] send money to a girl you [B]don't[/B] know. This should be an absolute. First and foremost you can't be sure you're sending it to a girl. That's right it may be a guy with some girl's / model's photos. You might even discover this by using the on-line program called "Tin-Eye". Nevertheless, even if it really is a girl. You don't know her, so why would you ever consider sending her money? If you are really desperate, send me the money and I'll send you some naked pictures (of a girl, of course) jajajaja and you can fantasize all you want. OK Mr. Admin. That was a joke.
Rule 3 [B]B[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2738397]I plan to stay at the Mansion for a couple of nights because I am a lazy fuck and I enjoy a pool but I am looking for a nice hotel that is guest friendly either near parque lleras or central. I know it is a big spread but still asking. First time in MDE. I have the World Traveler 69 map and intend to use and report on it but the guest at the hotel thing, I need advice.[/QUOTE]Can you give me the website for this mansion place and what is this world traveler map you speak of?
[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2738397]I plan to stay at the Mansion for a couple of nights because I am a lazy fuck and I enjoy a pool but I am looking for a nice hotel that is guest friendly either near parque lleras or central. I know it is a big spread but still asking. First time in MDE. I have the World Traveler 69 map and intend to use and report on it but the guest at the hotel thing, I need advice.[/QUOTE]I also love a pool, but heard many times the pool at Mansion is very very cold and hardly ever anyone swims in it, including the girls, just a heads up.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2738272]All great advice in general.
I follow my own rules, however.
I know who is deserving and who's playing or trying to play me.
Girls are in different buckets of our particular friendships / relationships.
If I help out a particular girl who I have a great relationship with, and who I believe is deserving, I help out, and I really don't care what she uses the money for.
If she happens to get too "give me give me" later, I just say No if I want. It's not difficult..[/QUOTE]I can relate to this 100% and most of the other comments on this topic are also correct in their own way. In my early years I was a total mess, confused, wanted to help various people I'd meet in person, like feeling bad, guilty, etc; Until one day a fellow gringo sat me down and schooled me on this and how to tackle it.
This is by far the most complication we get in this lifestyle. We travel for fun, extend our stay, oops we decided or found the skills and balls to mingle with the locals, blend in, even starting to dress like a chico, then let's roleplay a relationship, and that's where the danger starts.
In nearly 15 years in this I've had my fair share of issues but usually mostly handled. In that amount of years I've sent less than $500 USD total to random novias, friends, and I still think that's too much. I think I'm the El Cheapo WU papi of the century. That's in about 15 yrs! Like many of the comments state, your girl will ask $50 for a minor emergency and you'll feel like an asshole if you don't send it, especially if it's a local you've been banging for free which were my cases. Local novias will happen in my extended stays of 30 days or longer. One thing however I never sent nor will ever send money to a prepago or women I've paid for sex. I would rather drink bleach before I do that. But come on amigos, I don't think it's a big deal if she was a real friend, and in fact you can help a friend that you're not banging. That's just my general philosophy although I barely practice it. Yes I'm super friendly, make friends easily, speak average Spanish. I'm financially secure, great job, I invest, but my personality and core values deeply hates the feeling of being a bank account to someone or befriended for such opportunities. Again I respect those who do.
I would say to take the same caution that we all seem to be hinting, that is key. Don't be a chomp and allow someone to use you or play you, and for me that's the line I carefully study to know who's really in need vs who's playing games. Then of course when no games or not are played, if I send a one time gift it means one time, period. Get a job, go start hooking if you haven't already, do what you have to do. Sometimes I would bore them with my high bills and taxes and scare the shit out of them till they pity me and stop asking LOL. Play reverse psychology and manipulate if you have to. And yes, I am an asshole too. These girls or any indv you befriend from anywhere who's much much poorer than you, well technically is not your real friend, you became a source. It's the same concept as to why most rich folks or celebrities don't mingle or marry regular average joes. It's silly and yes it still happens for real love blah blah horseshit.
I get phone numbers from all types of locals when I travel incl cops, merchants, business owners, novias, putas, gringos, you name it. With all those encounters I have yet to meet one, except for the gringos, where I would gain anything from their friendship or me not being a source or an opportunity. If you can't tell yet I'm all about a balanced scale. Life itself and everything in it should be so or at least I try to make it so. I don't even consider myself wise, what I maintain is basically learned over years w some experience, and some good pointers by few fellow travel buds.
Now, let's go fuck some more WG.