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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905095]How do you know they are better and cheaper on the street if you have never had a girl in Thermae?[/QUOTE]Come on Nyezhov, I don't agree with the better on the street comment, but you certainly know that most Farangs don't have as much success as you do in Thermae. Especially older Farangs.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2905328]Come on Nyezhov, I don't agree with the better on the street comment, but you certainly know that most Farangs don't have as much success as you do in Thermae. Especially older Farangs.[/QUOTE]Mr. Nyezhov's position with regard to Thermae and elsewhere else is similar to mine;.
"I get BBFS, GFE, PSE from anyone I choose to fuck, without wasting my time on the net. "
The trick is to simply confine your "choose to fucks" to ladies who agree to fuck you the way you want. For example, in my case, if a lady in Thermae or anywhere else doesn't agree upfront to BBFS+CIP with me or my idea of GFE / PSE, no problem, I just don't choose to take her.
Now, if anyone here is asserting that they routinely and without exception get BBFS+CIP with the objectively hottest girls in Thermae or any other wide range selection of ladies on a first session, the most popular girls in the place due to their objective level of hotness, then that punter truly has got a secret weapon at his disposal to achieve that result.
And it might even be a loaded gun he sits on the bedside table without comment before the session begins for all we know. LOL.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905326]Good deal. LOL. I can show you some Chicken shacks for a good deal. Personally I'd be rather be with the idiot millionaires.[/QUOTE]Anyway long story short, not a matter of price but a matter of value. I found a lot more value elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905326]Good deal. LOL. I can show you some Chicken shacks for a good deal. Personally I'd be rather be with the idiot millionaires.[/QUOTE]Hey its ok to feel comfortable with the idiot millionaires.
NI.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905295]Seems you have a problem with costs. I'll agree that Nana can be a little expensive for some folks, but for those who can afford it, it's a great time.
I have A little bit of curiosity and ask my fellow experienced Bangkok travelers following:
How many of you believe that this dude smashed an 8 and 1/2 massage girl for 300 b in Bangkok. I don't.[/QUOTE]I can't get past the notion that anyone found an 8.5/10 girl working in any Massage Shop in Pattaya, much less one that was available for sex of any kind, even much less that she charged anything less than 20,000 baht for it. My God, hasn't she scanned the Pattaya market for her competition going for 1,000 - 1,500 baht?
[QUOTE=DCups;2905307]Cheaper, for sure.[/QUOTE]Equivalent looks: 2000 street, 2500 Thermae.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2905328]Come on Nyezhov, I don't agree with the better on the street comment, but you certainly know that most Farangs don't have as much success as you do in Thermae. Especially older Farangs.[/QUOTE]I'm so old I cum dust. However, Its all about behavior and attitude, although my long termism at the place helps.
But here is an important point. Girls who don't really want to go with you arent going to be worth it. So if that hottie dressed like a schoolgirl turns her nose up at you because you are white, well she wouldn't be the best performer anyway. Plenty of places where they don't have a choice.
Here is another point: Old in decent shape beats young. Why? Because old dude like me isn't going to pound it into a mushy gelatinous schmear that was once a pussy unlike you, muscular 35 year old from Montana with beer dick. Many of the girls are AFRAID of you.
Another point: Fat aint where its at. Nor are last legger looks, dreads, dirty clothes etc.
I walk in 90% of the time in a collared shirt, long pants, closed to shoes, cologne. Many girls recognize me and the staff knows me. I buy drinks for random girls. The place is now loaded with Chinese, so Westerners are back up a notch. Its a fabulous place for EXPERIENCED older Westerners as is Nana.
While I agree with 40 Drinks and others that Nana has changed over the years (how many folks were there before the roof? For me, and other old dudes I have seen there, its the ultimate hunting ground, even though I may go to 5 places and barfine none. Thats because if I am going to pay Nana prices, I want the ONE. Thats becasue I am not drunk and have control. I can have fun as follows:
Sit downstairs, smoke weed, eat chicken wings and watch football while bantering with the girls walking past.
Watch girls soap their pussies in Geisha (is it) for the cost of a Soda.
Watch the Angelwitch show for a few.
Walk in and out of 10 Gogos checking out the talent.
The Iced Coffee in Billboard is fabulous.
If and when I find the ONE, well I just pay for it.
If not, I walk to Thermae.
Keep in mind that in a sea full of Asians, Indians tourists and looky loos ones appearance and mannerisms make one more attractive to girls. While there is always a reasoned debate about long term vs short term visitors, I've had no choice but to play the long term game for years. But, that's benefitted me to the point where I have been offered brand new girls, "she just start". I don't get hustled either. And when you have two Nana girls just gobbling each other while you chill and smoke, I guess you will understand why I like it. YMMV, because the entire scene outside the take all comers places requires a bit more insouiance. Nana isn't an FKK or Adelitas in Tijuana or a Termae in Brazil, it is its own scene and needs to be adapted to. Its not for Cheap Charlies either.
I don't do MPs, fishbowls etc anymore simply because I can only get to BKK once a month and why spill my precious life force with mediocrity in my eyes, especially with schlepping from place to plac e in the heat. If you are just a serial spurter, as many of you seem to be, by all means go for it. There is relief everywhere, albeit some very unattractive. But hey, we got Chinatown fans here LOL.
On the other hand, if you had a bad experience in Nana or Thermae, chances are its because of you. Me, I have hundreds and hundreds of choices. I've seen 100 plus girls in Thermae alone.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2905383]Hey its ok to feel comfortable with the idiot millionaires.
NI.[/QUOTE]Far better than idiot poor people. You forget that in most cases, being a millionaire requires a bit more intelligence than your average desperate monger.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2905325]Nana & Soi Cow are now total rip off places. Leave them for the Asian idiots who think that paying 5000 (incl BF, girl, Drinks) is a good deal.
Plenty of other options around. SW 1500/2000. Good ones maybe 2500/3000. The SW scene has changed from what it once was, I believe more reliable.
NI.[/QUOTE]I'm farang, too big, and old as dirt, I don't have the same sex appeal as younger, more fit, and better looking punters. The girls do not gravitate to me. Sometimes I have a great time with the 1200-2500 street freelancers, but what I normally crave are the 1 in 10 Nana plaza go go girls. I don't mind paying 4500-6000 baht to get what I want (drinks, waitress tip, mama tip, tuk tuk, hotel reception tip, and girl money).
I have only 1 Nana mamasan who arranges many of my dates (I used to have 2). She knows me, I tip her, and she finds what I want. Mamasan likely tells the girls that I'm a good customer because they consistently give me better service than I got before I became mama's regular customer. If I know which girl I want, I might arrange directly with mama before entry into bar without ordering any drinks, exactly zero girls have complained about missed alcohol. Some dancing girls notice when I leave with a bar fine, the next night those girls seem strangely attracted to me. Being a return customer has it's advantages.
Money: the world's greatest aphrodisiac. I've got nothing else to offer.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2905401]I'm farang, too big, and old as dirt, I don't have the same sex appeal as younger, more fit, and better looking punters. The girls do not gravitate to me. Sometimes I have a great time with the 1200-2500 street freelancers, but what I normally crave are the 1 in 10 Nana plaza go go girls. I don't mind paying 4500-6000 baht to get what I want (drinks, waitress tip, mama tip, tuk tuk, hotel reception tip, and girl money).
I have only 1 Nana mamasan who arranges many of my dates (I used to have 2). She knows me, I tip her, and she finds what I want. Mamasan likely tells the girls that I'm a good customer because they consistently give me better service than I got before I became mama's regular customer. If I know which girl I want, I might arrange directly with mama before entry into bar without ordering any drinks, exactly zero girls have complained about missed alcohol. Some dancing girls notice when I leave with a bar fine, the next night those girls seem strangely attracted to me. Being a return customer has it's advantages.
Money: the world's greatest aphrodisiac. I've got nothing else to offer.[/QUOTE]Five star analysis.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905295]Seems you have a problem with costs. I'll agree that Nana can be a little expensive for some folks, but for those who can afford it, it's a great time.
I have A little bit of curiosity and ask my fellow experienced Bangkok travelers following:
How many of you believe that this dude smashed an 8 and 1/2 massage girl for 300 b in Bangkok. I don't.[/QUOTE]The last sentence of their posts are always.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2905401]Money: the world's greatest aphrodisiac. I've got nothing else to offer.[/QUOTE]Dude, I just wanted to give props to you. I like a guy who is under no illusions and is comfortable with reality.
Much better than those "she didn't want money but I put 5 k in her purse anyway" or "I banged bargirl XYZ and now she's madly in love with me" stories.
If you are spending your money in a way that gives you a good time, 👍 to you.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2905414]Dude, I just wanted to give props to you. I like a guy who is under no illusions and is comfortable with reality.
Much better than those "she didn't want money but I put 5 k in her purse anyway" or "I banged bargirl XYZ and now she's madly in love with me" stories.
If you are spending your money in a way that gives you a good time, 👍 to you.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]There must be more to this than meets the EYE.
I get turned down all the time. It's like they think my last name is kumamthanchakiranandi. And my 1st name Raj and I work Dell Call Center.
Sorry guys this is a bit late. Too much work.
Due to CNY a bad time to visit but at least the weather was ok in the beginning. So it was really busy time with way too many regular tourists and weekend millionaires.
Street walker.
Quality is pretty much the same, numbers ok, prices from 1500 to 3000, never got quoted the low end though. Highest concentration around Thermae and soi 4, lots of black girls there, surprisingly good looks.
Thermae.
So full I never made it inside. 99% Asian.
Nana.
It's a tourist thing now, never seen that many non-working females going there with their husbands. Lots of girls but inside the clubs not that much action. BF is 1000, ST starts at 3000 to 4000. Not really value for money in my opinion.
BJ bars.
The old ones have terrible looking SP so I passed. Enjoyed Madame Claude, very well trained and quite pleasant but the prices are rather high, starting at 1300 for 20 minutes. The FS offers are not worth it in my experience. Nice rooms though but as I was not there to admire the interior decor and was greeted my first time by a huge dead cockroach, well, no points for that. Mama was very responsive via Line, using it for reservation is recommended.
Nuru.
Started with BKVice but again, great decoration, high prices (3000 for I think 60 minutes) but the girl had no clue about Nuru. FS was ok but pricy. The Mama from Doki was so unfriendly on line and my fav was on extended holiday so I passed.
Oilies.
That is how I call the low end MS shops even they now also offer Nuru but I never tried that. Prices stable at 2300 for 2 hours, girls quality was rather good. My favourite is SnowWhite / Cherry. One of the PSE superstars there has her own shop now in Soi 22, in the secon small side road behind the Marriot, name is Siky. If she teaches the gals her skills will be a superb place.
Short version, pm for any details, happy to elaborate if wished. Even though prices are up, still my go to place.
FA.
P.S.: taxi from airport to Asoke was 220 fare plus 25 tolls around 1 am. Using bolt on the way back was a disaster, driver could not find the hotel, which is directly at soi 23, charge was 300, the app had quoted 240 altogether.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905408]Five star analysis.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2905414]Dude, I just wanted to give props to you. I like a guy who is under no illusions and is comfortable with reality.
Much better than those "she didn't want money but I put 5 k in her purse anyway" or "I banged bargirl XYZ and now she's madly in love with me" stories.
If you are spending your money in a way that gives you a good time, 👍 to you.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice words, but I must admit that I only spend that magnitude of money in Bangkok or Patong. Since COVID I've been spending about 12 weeks per year in Thailand and most of my time is beach resort areas (not Pattaya) where the hot girls are few and far between. Prices are much lower and I'll typically pay 1500 ST for one of the doable girls or 2000 - 2500 for one of the rare hot girls. The most I’ve spent in a beach resort area has been 3000 ST.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2905401]Some dancing girls notice when I leave with a bar fine, the next night those girls seem strangely attracted to me. Being a return customer has it's advantages.[/QUOTE]Agree. Girls see everything you do and will remember it on your future visits. What else do they have to do when half he time you're the only guy in the bar. They know guys who don't buy drinks, buy drinks, buy LOTS of drinks, don't barfine, and barfine.
It absolutely pays to be a regular at a gogo bar. When you can walk in and not need to even order a drink or lady drink and there's 5+ girls vying for your attention you know you've been to that club too many times in the past month or two.