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[QUOTE=European Man]Hi guys,

I have understood that it is considered common to tip girls after the night.

Isn't possible don't it? Is it saw as mandatory by girls that can be crazy without it?[/QUOTE]EM: It is up to each gentleman to tip. It is not mandatory unless it is discussed in advance. Some of the ladies who barfine on P Burgos street in Makati may discuss it with you before leaving. A few will insist upon it. If not, then any tip is up to you. Some men tip. Some men never tip. Many men tip based on the degree or quality of service provided.

The danger of the tip is that it creates an expectation (mandatory quality) for some girls. "Last man tip me p1000. You give me tip." If you read thru the forums, you will see reports where some men tip and some don't. Its rare in filipines for girls to actually ask for it. However on my last trip in AC two different girls asked for a tip. I give every girl p100-200 for taxi the next day. Its more than enough to get them home on the jeepney. I don't believe in tipping.

Gents, girls actually asking you for a tip lately?

[QUOTE=European Man]Hi guys,

I have understood that it is considered common to tip girls after the night.

Isn't possible don't it? Is it saw as mandatory by girls that can be crazy without it?[/QUOTE]

Hi,

It depends where you are from.

Philippine culture is not a tipping culture. However, the girls know that people from other cultures do tip, and they work on that.

They know that people from the US, Korea and Japan almost always tip, so if you are from those cultures you are expected to tip.

They know that people from Australia and New Zealand for example do not tip, and so they don't expect much of a tip if anything.

So if you tip in your home country, then the girls will know that and expect you to tip accordingly.

In AC, a tip is not compulsory.

Having said that, if you feel that the girl gave good service, or you want to keep her a bit longer, then a tip can help.

I normally tip enough for a trike fare - about 100 Piso. If I see a lady for a week, I normally also buy her a dress or two in the markets near the Swiss Chalet. Dressing them up and then undressing them in their new clothes is fun too.

However, others tip 500 Piso or more. I have never had any problems tipping less than that in AC.

The other thing is that if you are going to ask the girls to do something really "different" sometimes it is good to ask up front, and offer a tip if what you ask for is "challenging" for them.

Hope that helps.

"Good day!
Please be advised of the schedule change of your flight/s. We apologize for the inconvenience that this disruption may cause you.

5J 942 TH24JUN BKKCRK ETD 2340 ETA 0355+1 (CANCELLED FLIGHT)

5J 941 SA07AUG CRKBKK ETD 2045 ETA 2300 (CONFIRMED FLIGHT)

For inquiries or rebooking, please call our Call Center in Manila at (+632) 7020888 or in Cebu at (+6332) 2308888. Thank you.."

F***ing Good day and Thank you...

Just like that. No explanation - maybe political situation in Bangkok. No proposal for alternative option. Assuming I am able to use return flight from Clark to Bangkok. No information do I get refund or how to cancel.

Ok, just letting some steam out:( I reckon I have to make a call...

[QUOTE=White Whale]"Good day!
Please be advised of the schedule change of your flight/s. We apologize for the inconvenience that this disruption may cause you.

5J 942 TH24JUN BKKCRK ETD 2340 ETA 0355+1 (CANCELLED FLIGHT)

5J 941 SA07AUG CRKBKK ETD 2045 ETA 2300 (CONFIRMED FLIGHT)

For inquiries or rebooking, please call our Call Center in Manila at (+632) 7020888 or in Cebu at (+6332) 2308888. Thank you.."

F***ing Good day and Thank you...

Just like that. No explanation - maybe political situation in Bangkok. No proposal for alternative option. Assuming I am able to use return flight from Clark to Bangkok. No information do I get refund or how to cancel.

Ok, just letting some steam out:( I reckon I have to make a call...[/QUOTE]

It seems I draw a conclusion ahead of time. Some hours later afternoon at work my phone rang and they called to ask if I had noticed the email about cancelletation and if I wanted fly to Clark on Tuesday or Saturday instead of Thursday. They are going to discontinue Thursday flights.

[QUOTE=White Whale]It seems I draw a conclusion ahead of time. Some hours later afternoon at work my phone rang and they called to ask if I had noticed the email about cancelletation and if I wanted fly to Clark on Tuesday or Saturday instead of Thursday. They are going to discontinue Thursday flights.[/QUOTE]When I tried to call their customer service on a recent trip to confirm my flights, I could never get through to a person. I was stuck on hold forever. Although, I never had a canceled flight, but my four flights with them were domestic - Manila to Bohol (took a boat to Cebu), Cebu to Manila, Manila to Cebu, and Cebu to Manila.

Keeping the tip topic alive. The previous responses go from no tip to cover a thank you 100 peso and you did a great services to 200-300 pesos. Is there a guide for the short time places on Santos? I have gave nothing to 100 if the time was above average and 40mins to an hour. Short time in the location small room, cold rinse, and general action. Thanks have fun.

I was there today and paid 350 extra to get into one of the nicer rooms for 2 hours. I've asked a few of the girls how much most customers tip and they both told me 100 is what the majority tip and they are fine with that. Though each has the occasional generous customer who will tip 1000 to 2000 or even buy them expensive gifts etc.

I've been here for 6 weeks now and ask almost every girl about her experiences. Tipping is not mandatory but all girls expect it as its the norm here. In the big clubs on the East end of fields like Atlantis the popular girls have come to expect 1000 to 2000 peso tips for long time because that is what most Korean and Japanese customers are giving them and most of the visitors to that end year round are Korean and Japanese. Most girls will stand around waiting for you to walk them out unless you give them a tip. When customers don't tip most are just disappointed and won't say anything so you don't even notice that they are upset. However a few will express their disappointment, from "I wish you had picked a different girl" to "Fuck you!. "

The popular girls will not see a customer again if they were not happy with his tip. But I guess most guys arent looking to go get the same girl twice anyway.

Anyways this just applies to the girls who will get asked to barfine several times per night every night if they choose to stay there the whole shift.

I can't comment on what the less popular girls expect.

I do know even the popular girls I've barfined in the bars in the center of fields like Cherry's/stampede, pony tails, Dr. Holms, eruptions, and then all the clubs on the West end of fields have lower expectations and rather than expecting that 1-2k tip they feel lucky when they get it. They don't hold it against you if you tip less. (I tip less)

Anyways thats just what I've gathered from so many conversations.

[QUOTE=European Man]Hi guys,

I have understood that it is considered common to tip girls after the night.

Isn't possible don't it? Is it saw as mandatory by girls that can be crazy without it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Strikesfun]Keeping the tip topic alive. The previous responses go from no tip to cover a thank you 100 peso and you did a great services to 200-300 pesos. Is there a guide for the short time places on Santos? I have gave nothing to 100 if the time was above average and 40mins to an hour. Short time in the location small room, cold rinse, and general action. Thanks have fun.[/QUOTE]

A short time on santos, get her a LD after wards if you had fun, but no tip requiered on santos. A short time in the hotel I give money for a ride home. Had a short time I had to kick out of the room after two rounds and she was trying for number three and gave her 200P, but she earned it.

[QUOTE=Freetime]A short time on santos, get her a LD after wards if you had fun, but no tip requiered on santos. A short time in the hotel I give money for a ride home. Had a short time I had to kick out of the room after two rounds and she was trying for number three and gave her 200P, but she earned it.[/QUOTE]I got two girls from santos one afternoon a while back for a 3-some. Wonderful time in the room. No taxi tip needed as I walked them 2 blocks back there. They offered themselves for another session the next day; that's how mad they were over no tip.

[QUOTE=Filipino]When I tried to call their customer service on a recent trip to confirm my flights, I could never get through to a person.[/QUOTE]These days whenever this happens to me with Cebu Pacific or other budget airlines, I just have a travel agent take care of it. Most will do it for P50 or P100, and it saves all kind of time and frustration.

[QUOTE=Filipino]When I tried to call their customer service on a recent trip to confirm my flights, I could never get through to a person. I was stuck on hold forever. Although, I never had a canceled flight, but my four flights with them were domestic - Manila to Bohol (took a boat to Cebu), Cebu to Manila, Manila to Cebu, and Cebu to Manila.[/QUOTE]

I was able to negotiate for alternative routing with emails. I did not want to take a risk being three extra days in Bangkok in current political climate. Anything can happen by end of June :( They agreed to change destination to Manila instead of Clark so I could transfer same day and not leaving airport if situations escalates back what it was or even worse.

What they did not agree was to compensate added travel cost because of arriving Manila - not Clark. I am not going to put fight on it but I will make a mental note for future travel.

I have been using CPA quite a lot. They also are many times delayed so too tight transfer window from their flight is not advisable.

I also have seen very pissed of mongers on check-in desk when they have been demanded to pay for excess weight (>15kg) for their luggage. The weight limit is strict. It may come surprise if you mostly have spent all your pesos.

I flew into Hong Kong and my girl friend was going to fly up from Clark and spend a few days with me in HKG before we both were going to fly back to the Philippines. Long-and-short of it, she got extorted by Clark immigration and they would not let her out of the country. That is another entire story. So, she did not arrive in HKG. Upon learning of her not arriving I went to the Cebu Pacific counter in HKG and tried to catch an earlier flight to either Manila or Clark. I did not want to sit in HKG for 3 days by myself. Cebu Pacific had one flight later that night but they wanted the equivalent of US$ 300 for one-way. I already had a ticket from HKG to Clark, but it was three days later. I then pulled out a credit card and Cebu Pacific in HKG would not take an American credit card. At their ticket counter in HKG they would not take US dollars in cash. They would not even take Philippine pesos (remember, they are a Philippine airline). To buy that US$ 300 ticket I would have had to convert any currency or any credit card into Hong Kong Dollars, before they would sell me a ticket. Long-story short, I had to go online the next day and buy a ticket and I spent probably US$ 300 buying another ticket and flying into Manila a couple of days later. Cebu Pacific I think is an OK airline once they shut the plane’s door and get up in the air, but when it comes to their administrative and ground operations they totally suck!

Just a thought, why should a company accept the money from some foreign country? Philippine Airlines in Hong Kong is running by HK rules.

Nevertheless, sorry to hear you had such a bad experience.

[QUOTE=Noguera]I flew into Hong Kong and my girl friend was going to fly up from Clark and spend a few days with me in HKG before we both were going to fly back to the Philippines. Long-and-short of it, she got extorted by Clark immigration and they would not let her out of the country. That is another entire story. So, she did not arrive in HKG. Upon learning of her not arriving I went to the Cebu Pacific counter in HKG and tried to catch an earlier flight to either Manila or Clark. I did not want to sit in HKG for 3 days by myself. Cebu Pacific had one flight later that night but they wanted the equivalent of US$ 300 for one-way. I already had a ticket from HKG to Clark, but it was three days later. I then pulled out a credit card and Cebu Pacific in HKG would not take an American credit card. At their ticket counter in HKG they would not take US dollars in cash. They would not even take Philippine pesos (remember, they are a Philippine airline). To buy that US$ 300 ticket I would have had to convert any currency or any credit card into Hong Kong Dollars, before they would sell me a ticket. Long-story short, I had to go online the next day and buy a ticket and I spent probably US$ 300 buying another ticket and flying into Manila a couple of days later. Cebu Pacific I think is an OK airline once they shut the plane's door and get up in the air, but when it comes to their administrative and ground operations they totally suck![/QUOTE]

Its a crappy airline. The planes are new, but its a typical asian airline (absolutely no frills). The aircraft interior on their A319/20 series are not the best (seats on all aircraft have no lower back support you find on every other airline). A number of similar items. Why the hell do the cabin overhead vents spit out steam while sitting on the tarmac/taxiway? Take the 5-hour flight from Manila-Jakarta and they won't even offer you a soda. This is low-cost stuff with a pretty face. Making a change to a ticket can be frustrating in other ways. Even if you get CP to make the change at one of their mall offices, you may have to taxi to the domestic airport in Manila to pay the change fee.