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Hi guys,
New law in Medellin for December passed by Mayor. Taxi cabs will add an additional $500cop to your fare during the month of December. Some kind of x-mas bonus for cabbies. So don`t panic when the the cab fare is different than the meter.
Frank Casio !
As I'm sure you know from looking through past posts, Carolina has been pretty well known among the monger community for years now. I don't think I can say anything either way about her that makes her better or worse than any of the other girls in her profession in Medellin. If she's trying to downplay her SP activity, that's straight up BS though. I recall seeing her a lot at the Mansion and on Mayorista. She's gotten a lot of mention in this forum, so you can use that as a barometer. A decent shag though, I will give her that.
Dude, it's good you had the sense to do a little background research beforehand. But it looks like you're about to drop the ball right before the touchdown.
You seem to be suffering from a confused sense of chivalry and PTPPS(Post Traumatic Pussy Prison Syndrome), a condition where gringos who otherwise exercise good judgement in their lives suddenly throw it all out the window when one of these chicas gives them some attention, because they're used to the comparatively cold and standoffish of many women at home in the States.
As mentioned before by previous posters, these girls can be ruthless opportunists and pretty good at deception and emotional manipulation if you open that door for them. They can also be a great time for a roll in the cama and a little pseudo-romance, it largely depends on you and whether you want to play the role of dashing Western Union gringo to the rescue every time the rent comes up. But I think it's common knowledge that that's not a wise thing to do. No one respects a pushover.
I've heard some of the same routines from a lot of these girls, it often makes me wonder if they have their own forum online somewhere where they swap tricks and tactics. The best response is usually "Times are tough all around baby, wish I could help. I hope it all works out for you"
I get the impression you're a good guy, but if you're looking for love, you're going about it the wrong way. Take some time to think about it rationally and I think you'll realize getting seriously "invested" in her is a bad idea. When it all goes bad, you're going to hate yourself for ignoring the many obvious red flags and getting played for a rube. And the worst part is, you'll have no one blame but yourself.
I'm guessing you're still on the fence because you want to think the best of the situation as you've been talking to her for a while and already have this image of her built up in your head.common sense should tell you to cut your losses.come to Colombia when you want to and she'll still be there, ready to pick up right where you left off. If not, 25K pesos(her rate on Mayorista) may change her mind.
If you want to meet a nice latina non-pro, go about it the same way 99% of people do around the world. Learn as much spanish as possible, visit often to get yourself as acquainted with the customs and cultural subtleties as you can, and get in with a crowd of good social standing and meet the people they introduce you to. Cold calling off the internet is rarely a good idea for long term relationships.
You've worked hard for your money, and I'm sure she will too, that is until the next naive gringo comes along while she makes time with a local guy who she can actually relate to.
Some questions to ask yourself:
1. Would you get into a serious relationship with a stripper/SP at home in the United States? If not, why would you do so with one from Colombia?
I think the reason this doesn't sink in is because as gringos, we don't have the cultural context to understand the social dynamics and place that person into one of those spots. We don't pick up on the social clues(low class accent, mannerisms, etc.) like we would with someone from our home country. We just see a hottie who's looking to make time with us.
This can be good in some cases and terrible in cases like this.
2. Did she tell you beforehand about her profession or did she only confess after you confronted her with the evidence?
Best wishes. I'm sure you'll smarten up after thinking about it for a bit. A lot of the guys on this forum are pretty savvy and wordly and have been around the block a few times in your exact situation, so give all the responses some honest consideration.
[QUOTE=Agwood69]Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood[/QUOTE]
To all: First off please bear with me for one last post on this. Believe me, I heeearr the howls fron north to south and back again.
Luck: It's not just the genre. Several of her characters and their roles in her plots are mirror images of characters Gabo had already constructed.
And to all again: Like I said before, her novels make good reads. If you're into it but don't feel like reading, check out House of the Spirits on dvd. Stars Merril Streep, Vanessa Redgrave and a whole slew of other stars. While you're at it, get Love in the Time of Cholera based on the the novel by Gabo. Both are Hollywood productions.
The latter is the better of course, IMHO. And I'm no fan of Gabo personally. He's life long best buds with Fidel. (What a dumbass :))
I can clearly read however, that Isabel isn't in the same league as a novelist.
I'm out, Schwmm
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]You can't "copy" a genre - you can be inspired by and write within that genre.
That's like saying Joseph Heller "largely copied" Mark Twain because Twain wrote satire before him or because they both wrote about people. The stories all are all different.
Kafka wrote Magical realism before Gabo was born. Borges's Garden (1941) and Pedro Paramo (by Juan Rulfo's Pedro Páramo (1955) were a few of many works before Gabo. Doesn't make Gabo a copy cat - does it?
Kafka's Metamorphosis(1915), and Julio Cortazar's Letter to a Young Lady in Paris (1951) were key inspirations for Gabo, and are closer to Gabo's work than anything Allende has ever written. I would not consider Gabo a copycat of Kafka and neither would the Nobel Prize comitte. JMHO.
Perhaps "inspired" is a better word?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Speaking not from personal experience, but speculating, I think if I particularly liked young Colombian women, I'd probably go to Colombia! I've heard great things about clubs in Medellin, but I can't speak from experience.[/quote]Greetings to all from Medellin!
The above quotation is from my last post (9/30/2010) in the St. Maarten (SXM, Dutch side) section. But now I [i]can[/i] speak from experience, having spent several days in Medellin.
There is a lot positive to be said about Medellin. Despite being only 6 degrees north latitude, where I thought the temperature would be hot all year, right now in December, daytime is T-shirt or short-sleeve weather, and sometimes at night it has been cool enough I've needed a long-sleeved shirt (and sometimes an umbrella) to keep me comfortable. The 5,000 ft. above sea level elevation is probably one of the reasons for the comfortable temperature. Hotels, taxis and prostitutes are inexpensive in Medellin. The cheapest rental car I could find at the Medellin airport was $99 US per day. Taxis are so inexpensive and readily available I suggest avoiding the expense and parking hassle and difficulty navigating to your destination associated with having a rental car. I took a bus from the airport to central Medellin for about $7 US: The driver accepted US currency. So did taxi drivers, although you might save a little money by paying in Colombian pesos. The most expensive taxi ride I did was 15,000 Colombian pesos ($7.89 at the current exchange rate of $1 US = 1900 Colombian pesos). It is never difficult to find a taxi when I want one wherever in the City I am, and the taxi drivers so-far have all been friendly and have done a good job of getting me to the address I give them. I've seen no evidence of taxi scams such as payments to taxi drivers for delivering customers whereby me, the customer, is charged more at the club I'm going to because I arrived in a taxi, which was commonplace in Prague, Czech Republic when I was there a few years ago. Hotel rooms with a private bathroom I've stopped to look at ranged from about $6 US (yes, six dollars US! - tiny rooms with no exterior window in central Medellin) to $64 US per night at nicer hotels. With one exception, all Colombians I've met have been very nice people who went out of their way to be helpful, including hotel managers and front desk clerks and other hotel employees, taxi drivers, store clerks, a young woman who went out of her way to show me the way to walk to a post office, waitresses, and the people in the massage parlors and casas. Colombians are also very patient with my limited knowledge of Spanish. The one exception to how nice Colombians have been to me was late at night on a sidewalk in central Medellin: A young caucasian man grabbed me, shouting I don't know what, and in the ensuing scuffle I got knocked onto the sidewalk. But then as I got up my attacker and his amigos went away, either because he saw he had a fight on his hands or because a taxi driver stopped next to us to watch the fight. After this when I asked a hotel employee for directions to a place in the same area he warned me the area was "malo" (bad).
The setup at the "casas" or apartments in central Medellin are all about the same. The outside of the building is totally nondescript. Absolutely nothing outside gives any hint of what's going on inside or even that it is a business. I have no idea how customers find these brothels and massage parlors other than through ISG and word-of-mouth. The only way to identify the place is to have the exact address or ask a taxi driver. From the outside all these places look like a typical city residence.
You ring the door bell and are led to a room where you are invited to sit and wait. After a few minutes, girls come in one at a time to kiss you on the cheek or shake your hand and say her name. They may be wearing normal street clothes or more revealing attire. At Loutron, Abydos, and Energy (see addresses and GPS positions below), the girls, wearing a white shirt or coat that covers them from shoulders to hips, enter the room where you wait. Then they stand in front of you facing you, take off the white garment revealing the tiny tops and g-strings they are wearing beneath, and then turn around so you can see their almost nude backsides. While doing this she tells you her name so you will know who to ask for if you choose her after you've seen the all the girls. At all of these places I said "no, gracias" (no thanks) and left without choosing anyone and never heard any complaints or snide remarks nor was otherwise made to feel uncomfortable because I didn't like any of the girls in the lineup.
What's amazing about Medellin, and probably why so many men rave about the City as a sex tourism destination, is how cheap prostitution is: A typical price is 30,000 Colombian pesos ($15.79 in US currency) for 30 minutes. That is without question cheapest prostitution I've found anywhere. It is better than the Fylis/Filis Street area in Athens, Greece, where the price when I was there was about $15 worth of Greek drachmas (which means this was before the days of the Eurodollar). But in Athens (according to the madam or gentleman I spoke with at each of these places) that $15 worth of local currency bought you no more than 5 minutes with the prostitute - barely enough time for a mechanical "slam, bam, thank you, Mam!" (I wasn't tempted.)
For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin: (1) With only one exception (a black girl at Abydos), all the girls or women working in these places I saw were overweight, and I saw exactly one pretty face (which was that of the girl I chose at Fase II). There are pretty young, thin women in Medellin, but none I've seen were working as prostitutes. On the other hand, if you like women with big bubble butts and don't care if a woman has a pretty face, Medellin is your place. The girls at these central Medellin casas or apartments are almost all caucasian and young, and some of them might be just fine if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types. (2) At all but the strip clubs (such as Fase II, San Diego Grill, and La Napa Lady's Night Club), the only familiarity you have with the girls before you have to choose one to spend time and money on is the less than one minute she walks in and shakes your hand or displays her bikini-clad body, front and back, to you. You have no opportunity talk with her and see if (a) she seems to like you, (b) is affectionate, (c) can communicate with you verbally, (d) is reasonably intelligent and pleasant to deal with. I need more getting-to-know-you time than that to feel like doing anything affectionate or sexual.
Since the level of attractiveness of the young woman at the inexpensive casas in central Medellin wasn't what I was hoping to find, I looked through reports on ISG to find the most [i]expensive[/i] places, thinking maybe the girls would be model-thin and prettier where the prices are higher. At Loutron (Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245) the madam quoted me 210,000 Colombian pesos ($110 US) for 1 hour, which is much more than you will pay for the same time at casas in central Medellin. However, without exception, all the women in the lineup at Loutron were so overweight I found them unappealing. I didn't see a truly pretty face, either. The situation was the same at Energy (Carrera 74, No. 49-101) where I was quoted 90,000 Colombian pesos; I can't remember how much time that was for.
After visiting all of the below listed clubs or casas, the only place I found anyone who appealed to me was Fase II. When I arrived at Fase II about 6:30 p.m., I asked and was permitted to look at the rooms at South Beach Hostel next door, which is apparently part of Fase II. South Beach Hostel is an interesting setup: smaller buildings built inside a larger building. The rooms are, in my opinion, very nice with comfortable beds, clean linens and towels, and a private bathroom including shower. However, the employee of South Beach Hostel who gave me permission to take a look at the rooms told me Fase II doesn't open until 7:30 p.m. I explored the Premium Plaza Shopping Mall on the opposite side of the street (Carrera 44) from Fase II and South Beach Hostel and then took a taxi to a few other places before returning to Fase II at 9 p.m. Even at that hour on a Saturday night it appeared I was the only customer, or maybe one of two depending on whether the other guy sitting in the main room doing nothing was a club employee. I saw three or four girls talking with a man with SECURITY (or the Spanish word for that) on the back of his jacket. One who I think from what she was wearing is a waitress, not a dancer, actually was an attractive weight for her height but didn't have a pretty face. One of the other girls, mid-20s, had a perfectly pretty face and, while not as thin as I find most attractive, didn't look as overweigt as most of the girls I'd seen. At Fase II, unlike at Bell Suite, New Life, Masages Aiffe, Abydos, Loutron, and Energy, and most others, it is possible to have a conversation for however long you want with the girl and decide on the basis of personality as well as how she looks whether she appeals to you. After talking and holding hands awhile, she asked me, "Que quieres hacer?" (What do you want to do?) I spent about $107 for 45 minutes with her in one of the rooms at South Beach Hostel, including the cost of the room. She was so affectionate and passionate and apparently orgasmic I found myself thinking afterwards that with prostitutes like that, who needs a girlfriend?
But still, the next time I travel somewhere for the purpose of finding intimate female company, it will probably be Spain where at clubs like S'candalo in Malaga, Estark 92/Star of the Seas in Fuengirola, Lady's Dallas in La Jonquera, or Estark 95 in Algeciras, girls with pretty faces and thin, shapely figures in sexy outfits are everywhere. If you're selective about a woman's looks, the cost is about the same. If you're of the "all cats are grey at night" philosophy, you can save yourself a lot of money in Medellin.
Abydos, Calle 33, No. 64-198, GPS position N 06 14.378, W 075 34.946.
Alejas, Calle 54 (Caracas), No. 42-13, is now CLOSED with "ARRIENDA" (for lease) signs in the windows.
Bell Suite, Carrera 45 (El Palo) No. 56-45, 1st floor
Energy, Carrera 74, No. 49-101, GPS position N 06 15.576, W 075 35.422
La Piramide Egipto/Lindas Chicas - (named Casa de Piedra in a previous report), Calle 58 (Oriental) No. 50A-54
Loutron, Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245, GPS position N 06 11.086, W 075 33.273. I was quoted 210,000 Colombian pesos for 1 hour.
Masages Aiffe, Calle 57 (Argentina) No. 43-27, Tel. 254 51 39, cell 311 761 98 50. The business card says Monday-Saturday 10 a.m. to 8 p.m., 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Sundays.
Puntocon, Carrera 50A, No. 53-38: A previous report said closing time is 8 p.m., Monday through Saturday. I arrived at 7:45 p.m. on a Saturday and found the place shuttered (closed).
New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia), No. 43-39, 2nd floor
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Unlike the above, which have no signs outside, the below have bright neon lights like typical night clubs and restaurants:
Fase II, Carrera 44, No. 30-27 (behind Premium Plaza mall), GPS position N 06 13.818, W 075 34.245. I paid 10,000 Colombian pesos ($5.25 US) to enter. I was not hassled when I was asked if I wanted to order a drink and said no.
La Napa Lady's Night Club, Cra. 50 No. 52-10, Tel. 511 94 26. This is a strip club that is open until after midnight. There was no entry fee, but the waiter wouldn't go away until I ordered a drink, which I did in this case.
San Diego Grill, Calle 37, No. 45-15. This is a place to go after 8 p.m. after many of the private casas or apartments have closed. I was told entry was free ("libre") but after I went in and sat down a waiter told me there was a minimum drink purchase requirement, so I left without buying anything. Given enough time to look through the crowd, I might have found a girl I liked, but none I did see looked good to me.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]Greetings to all from Medellin!
The above quotation is from my last post (9/30/2010) in the St. Maarten (SXM, Dutch side) section. But now I [I]can[/I] speak from experience, having spent several days in Medellin.
There is a lot positive to be said about Medellin. Despite being only 6 degrees north latitude, where I thought the temperature would be hot all year, right now in December, daytime is T-shirt or short-sleeve weather, and sometimes at night it has been cool enough I've needed a long-sleeved shirt (and sometimes an umbrella) to keep me comfortable. The 5, 000 ft. Above sea level elevation is probably one of the reasons for the comfortable temperature. Hotels, taxis and prostitutes are inexpensive in Medellin. The cheapest rental car I could find at the Medellin airport was $99 US per day. Taxis are so inexpensive and readily available I suggest avoiding the expense and parking hassle and difficulty navigating to your destination associated with having a rental car. I took a bus from the airport to central Medellin for about $7 US: The driver accepted US currency. So did taxi drivers, although you might save a little money by paying in Colombian pesos. The most expensive taxi ride I did was 15, 000 Colombian pesos ($7. 89 at the current exchange rate of $1 US = 1900 Colombian pesos). It is never difficult to find a taxi when I want one wherever in the City I am, and the taxi drivers so-far have all been friendly and have done a good job of getting me to the address I give them. I've seen no evidence of taxi scams such as payments to taxi drivers for delivering customers whereby me, the customer, is charged more at the club I'm going to because I arrived in a taxi, which was commonplace in Prague, Czech Republic when I was there a few years ago. Hotel rooms with a private bathroom I've stopped to look at ranged from about $6 US (yes, six dollars US!. Tiny rooms with no exterior window in central Medellin) to $64 US per night at nicer hotels. With one exception, all Colombians I've met have been very nice people who went out of their way to be helpful, including hotel managers and front desk clerks and other hotel employees, taxi drivers, store clerks, a young woman who went out of her way to show me the way to walk to a post office, waitresses, and the people in the massage parlors and casas. Colombians are also very patient with my limited knowledge of Spanish. The one exception to how nice Colombians have been to me was late at night on a sidewalk in central Medellin: A young caucasian man grabbed me, shouting I don't know what, and in the ensuing scuffle I got knocked onto the sidewalk. But then as I got up my attacker and his amigos went away, either because he saw he had a fight on his hands or because a taxi driver stopped next to us to watch the fight. After this when I asked a hotel employee for directions to a place in the same area he warned me the area was "malo" (bad).
The setup at the "casas" or apartments in central Medellin are all about the same. The outside of the building is totally nondescript. Absolutely nothing outside gives any hint of what's going on inside or even that it is a business. I have no idea how customers find these brothels and massage parlors other than through ISG and word-of-mouth. The only way to identify the place is to have the exact address or ask a taxi driver. From the outside all these places look like a typical city residence.
You ring the door bell and are led to a room where you are invited to sit and wait. After a few minutes, girls come in one at a time to kiss you on the cheek or shake your hand and say her name. They may be wearing normal street clothes or more revealing attire. At Loutron, Abydos, and Energy (see addresses and GPS positions below), the girls, wearing a white shirt or coat that covers them from shoulders to hips, enter the room where you wait. Then they stand in front of you facing you, take off the white garment revealing the tiny tops and g-strings they are wearing beneath, and then turn around so you can see their almost nude backsides. While doing this she tells you her name so you will know who to ask for if you choose her after you've seen the all the girls. At all of these places I said "no, gracias" (no thanks) and left without choosing anyone and never heard any complaints or snide remarks nor was otherwise made to feel uncomfortable because I didn't like any of the girls in the lineup.
What's amazing about Medellin, and probably why so many men rave about the City as a sex tourism destination, is how cheap prostitution is: A typical price is 30, 000 Colombian pesos ($15. 79 in US currency) for 30 minutes. That is without question cheapest prostitution I've found anywhere. It is better than the Fylis/Filis Street area in Athens, Greece, where the price when I was there was about $15 worth of Greek drachmas (which means this was before the days of the Eurodollar). But in Athens (according to the madam or gentleman I spoke with at each of these places) that $15 worth of local currency bought you no more than 5 minutes with the prostitute. Barely enough time for a mechanical "slam, bam, thank you, Mam! " (I wasn't tempted.)
For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin: (1) With only one exception (a black girl at Abydos), all the girls or women working in these places I saw were overweight, and I saw exactly one pretty face (which was that of the girl I chose at Fase II). There are pretty young, thin women in Medellin, but none I've seen were working as prostitutes. On the other hand, if you like women with big bubble butts and don't care if a woman has a pretty face, Medellin is your place. The girls at these central Medellin casas or apartments are almost all caucasian and young, and some of them might be just fine if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types. (2) At all but the strip clubs (such as Fase II, San Diego Grill, and La Napa Lady's Night Club), the only familiarity you have with the girls before you have to choose one to spend time and money on is the less than one minute she walks in and shakes your hand or displays her bikini-clad body, front and back, to you. You have no opportunity talk with her and see if (a) she seems to like you, (b) is affectionate, (c) can communicate with you verbally, (d) is reasonably intelligent and pleasant to deal with. I need more getting-to-know-you time than that to feel like doing anything affectionate or sexual.
Since the level of attractiveness of the young woman at the inexpensive casas in central Medellin wasn't what I was hoping to find, I looked through reports on ISG to find the most [I]expensive[/I] places, thinking maybe the girls would be model-thin and prettier where the prices are higher. At Loutron (Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245) the madam quoted me 210, 000 Colombian pesos ($110 US) for 1 hour, which is much more than you will pay for the same time at casas in central Medellin. However, without exception, all the women in the lineup at Loutron were so overweight I found them unappealing. I didn't see a truly pretty face, either. The situation was the same at Energy (Carrera 74, No. 49-101) where I was quoted 90, 000 Colombian pesos; I can't remember how much time that was for.
After visiting all of the below listed clubs or casas, the only place I found anyone who appealed to me was Fase II. When I arrived at Fase II about 6:30 pm, I asked and was permitted to look at the rooms at South Beach Hostel next door, which is apparently part of Fase II. South Beach Hostel is an interesting setup: smaller buildings built inside a larger building. The rooms are, in my opinion, very nice with comfortable beds, clean linens and towels, and a private bathroom including shower. However, the employee of South Beach Hostel who gave me permission to take a look at the rooms told me Fase II doesn't open until 7:30 pm I explored the Premium Plaza Shopping Mall on the opposite side of the street (Carrera 44) from Fase II and South Beach Hostel and then took a taxi to a few other places before returning to Fase II at 9 pm Even at that hour on a Saturday night it appeared I was the only customer, or maybe one of two depending on whether the other guy sitting in the main room doing nothing was a club employee. I saw three or four girls talking with a man with SECURITY (or the Spanish word for that) on the back of his jacket. One who I think from what she was wearing is a waitress, not a dancer, actually was an attractive weight for her height but didn't have a pretty face. One of the other girls, mid-20s, had a perfectly pretty face and, while not as thin as I find most attractive, didn't look as overweigt as most of the girls I'd seen. At Fase II, unlike at Bell Suite, New Life, Masages Aiffe, Abydos, Loutron, and Energy, and most others, it is possible to have a conversation for however long you want with the girl and decide on the basis of personality as well as how she looks whether she appeals to you. After talking and holding hands awhile, she asked me, "Que quieres hacer? " (What do you want to do?) I spent about $107 for 45 minutes with her in one of the rooms at South Beach Hostel, including the cost of the room. She was so affectionate and passionate and apparently orgasmic I found myself thinking afterwards that with prostitutes like that, who needs a girlfriend?
But still, the next time I travel somewhere for the purpose of finding intimate female company, it will probably be Spain where at clubs like S'candalo in Malaga, Estark 92/Star of the Seas in Fuengirola, Lady's Dallas in La Jonquera, or Estark 95 in Algeciras, girls with pretty faces and thin, shapely figures in sexy outfits are everywhere. If you're selective about a woman's looks, the cost is about the same. If you're of the "all cats are grey at night" philosophy, you can save yourself a lot of money in Medellin.
Abydos, Calle 33, No. 64-198, GPS position and 06 14. 378, W 075 34. 946.
Alejas, Calle 54 (Caracas), No. 42-13, is now CLOSED with "ARRIENDA" (for lease) signs in the windows.
Bell Suite, Carrera 45 (El Palo) No. 56-45, 1st floor
Energy, Carrera 74, No. 49-101, GPS position and 06 15. 576, W 075 35. 422
La Piramide Egipto/Lindas Chicas. (named Casa de Piedra in a previous report), Calle 58 (Oriental) No. 50A-54
Loutron, Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245, GPS position and 06 11. 086, W 075 33. 273. I was quoted 210, 000 Colombian pesos for 1 hour.
Masages Aiffe, Calle 57 (Argentina) No. 43-27, Tel. 254 51 39, cell 311 761 98 50. The business card says Monday-Saturday 10 am to 8 pm, 11 am to 5 pm on Sundays.
Puntocon, Carrera 50A, No. 53-38: A previous report said closing time is 8 pm, Monday through Saturday. I arrived at 7:45 pm on a Saturday and found the place shuttered (closed).
New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia), No. 43-39, 2nd floor
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Unlike the above, which have no signs outside, the below have bright neon lights like typical night clubs and restaurants:
Fase II, Carrera 44, No. 30-27 (behind Premium Plaza mall), GPS position and 06 13. 818, W 075 34. 245. I paid 10, 000 Colombian pesos ($5. 25 US) to enter. I was not hassled when I was asked if I wanted to order a drink and said no.
La Napa Lady's Night Club, Cra. 50 No. 52-10, Tel. 511 94 26. This is a strip club that is open until after midnight. There was no entry fee, but the waiter wouldn't go away until I ordered a drink, which I did in this case.
San Diego Grill, Calle 37, No. 45-15. This is a place to go after 8 pm after many of the private casas or apartments have closed. I was told entry was free ("libre") but after I went in and sat down a waiter told me there was a minimum drink purchase requirement, so I left without buying anything. Given enough time to look through the crowd, I might have found a girl I liked, but none I did see looked good to me.[/QUOTE]Whoa bro!, I think you jumped in a time wharp machine and you didn't hit Medellin. Chicas arent pretty? Have big asses? Going to Sandiego at 8pm? The girls don't arrive till ten. Got dropped on the street and the cabbie saved you?
You went to Sandiego(a strip club) and left because of the"one" drink minimum(cheap bastard). How can you develope a opinion when you walked in and left.
Went to La napa and they had to strong arm you to buy a drink(cheap bastard). Quit playong with your GPS you got for an early Christmas present and buy a damn drink. You need more"get to know you time"? If your to cheap to buy a drink why would a girl want to get to know you?
Please go to Spain and quit fucking up the game for us guys that don't mind buying a drink to watch pussy dance.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]Greetings to all from Medellin!
But still, the next time I travel somewhere for the purpose of finding intimate female company, it will probably be Spain where at clubs like S'candalo in Malaga, Estark 92/Star of the Seas in Fuengirola, Lady's Dallas in La Jonquera, or Estark 95 in Algeciras, girls with pretty faces and thin, shapely figures in sexy outfits are everywhere. If you're selective about a woman's looks, the cost is about the same. If you're of the "all cats are grey at night" philosophy, you can save yourself a lot of money in Medellin.
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Param, Thanks for your report. I appreciate the manner that you write, with just enough detail about the important stuff and straight to the point.
I will in MDE on 12-15. As this is my 4th trip to Colombia but is my first to MDE I also will gather my own opinions from what I experience and observe.
Although I have never did the P4P in Spain (have traveled through Spain a few times) I have done the P4P in many other European and EU areas.
Good solid report. Thanks as I will use some of this info in the cuming weeks :-))
The Tall Man
[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi guys,
New law in Medellin for December passed by Mayor. Taxi cabs will add an additional $500cop to your fare during the month of December. Some kind of x-mas bonus for cabbies. So don`t panic when the the cab fare is different than the meter.
Frank Casio ![/QUOTE]This law is older than you Frank.
First off. Thanks for the report as I was getting bored with all the chit chat on this forum.
As per your report. My friend I think every one has their own taste. My first visit to Medellin I stayed about 6 days in Mde and I was not much impressed with quality of girls in Mde. For similar reason as mentioned by you that I had visited all these centro casas and service at the Casas as always are quick and impersonal but during that first trip I had some great experiences as well so I went a second time.
From that point on I have had about 7 trips to Mde and IMHO each visit got better and better. Medellin is a place where you develop contacts over a period of time and once you have had good experiences they make your trips worth while. I think you had one such GFE during your trip but think about it if you can have 8 or 10 such GFE than such experiences will make you return to MDE again and again.
I am sure you did not stay at Medellin Mansion but if you would have stayed at the Mansion your experiences could have been much different. Seems to me like you went hunting at the cheap casas most of the time and even if you would have experience the best of the Casas like Loutrons you would still have same non GFE experiences.
IMHO Medellin has some of the sweetest girls.
regards,
John.
Yep, and the price also goes up every year 1st Jan mate !! so I will guess and say that the increase will stay into Jan, Feb, ect
A.G.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]This law is older than you Frank.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi guys,
New law in Medellin for December passed by Mayor. Taxi cabs will add an additional $500cop to your fare during the month of December. Some kind of x-mas bonus for cabbies. So don`t panic when the the cab fare is different than the meter.
Frank Casio ![/QUOTE]I just came back from MDE Saturday after a month's stay. If I recall correctly the news, and exactly what happened while taking my last rides, the 500 pesos would be a voluntary contribution.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo] ... You went to Sandiego(a strip club) and left because of the"one" drink minimum(cheap bastard). ... Went to La napa and they had to strong arm you to buy a drink(cheap bastard). ...[/QUOTE] I [u]do[/u] dislike being told to buy something I don't want (that includes Obamacare), but the main issue at the aforementioned clubs in Medellin is [u]deception[/u] rather than cost. In this case, I was still carrying the bottle of water I didn't want but had bought at La Napa when I was told to buy another I also didn't want after I sat down in San Diego Grill. I didn't mind the honestly stated entry fee at Fase II.
I was wondering how spanish women compare to the women in Medelllin? not just the pros but also the non pros. Are the women in Spain better looking?
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]I [u]do[/u] dislike being told to buy something I don't want (that includes Obamacare), but the main issue at the aforementioned clubs in Medellin is [u]deception[/u] rather than cost. In this case, I was still carrying the bottle of water I didn't want but had bought at La Napa when I was told to buy another I also didn't want after I sat down in San Diego Grill. I didn't mind the honestly stated entry fee at Fase II.[/QUOTE]Thats even worse, that you think you can club hop with the same bottle of water you had from other clubs(cheap bastard).
The reason they have "one drink mins" is because they offer entertainment. And some guys will try to take advantage of the situation and sit there all night for free if allowed. From a business owners standpoint and a mongerers stand point that's fucked up. You travel half way around the world and balk at buying a beer, when you've got more naked pussy running around the room and dancing than you have ever seen in one place. Just for your info were not talking about a 20usd beer. In Sandiego I buy a bottle of rum for 23 usd, it lasts me a couple hours while I enjoy the show plus if I choose I can share with the girls (what I don't drink there I take with me). Cheap beers in Sandiego run 4-8 USD each.
That deception talk is bullshit. You want to set the rules in someones establishment to fit what you want. But if you owned the club you would do the same thing. You did right to leave if you feel you were mislead, but then you bash the place because you didn't want to play.
Medellin is not for you and good luck in Spain. I can see the expression at the clubs from the workers when you arrive (Here comes this cheap bastard damn!)
P.S. Thanks for contributing your political frustration (Obamacare) to this sex board.
I just returned from another trip to MDE. I stayed at CB1 and thanks to Greg, Sara, Mark, and staff that made it another great experience. Greg, I am working on my quiet voice.
I was stupid enough to get ripped off at Fase Dos. The woman came around for a tip and I didn't have any small bills, but she said she had cambio. I gave her $50K COP, and she gave me $10K COP back. I called her on it and a friend came over and they went into overdrive in Spanish while flashing bills. They then just turned around and walked away. It probably saved me money though since I told the other girls that she had their tips and to go get it from her. One question I have though. When they slap their elbow, does that mean how handsome I am? Anyway, my stupidity for handing her the money in the first place in basically what I believe to be a rip-off club for what is available in the rest of MDE.
The best club that we went to IMO was Luna Luneras. While not a great number of ladies, a very good group of lookers. The bad, drink prices. For a beer and a rum & coke it was $30K COP. We left after one drink and went to Mayorista where you can session for the cost of the two drinks at LL.
Mayorista may not be for everyone, but I really like it. Our waiter even asked how 5 Norte Americanos even found the place. It has a vibe similar to TJ, which is a city I also enjoy. Around of drinks for 5 in Mayorista was $14K COP. I would caution to check cedulas there though. One super little hottie would not show hers. My guess would be 15-16 Y.O. so we passed. At one time in one of the "clubs", after p*ssing in the trough (open to the club), I was looking around just kind of dancing by myself. The next thing I know there were six ladies around me in a circle all taking turns attaching their backside to me in the great Paisa tradition.
There were three ladies sitting at the next table with no drinks and no attention. They looked out of place, way to well dressed. My friend ended up with two of them. One was probably in her mid 20's very hot, with a young girl that she was apparently teaching the ropes. They both went with my friend for a couple of hours at less than one would pay for an hour at Fase Dos. Again, some "street smarts" probably would be a good idea though.
I'm looking forward to my return in July.
Health & happiness to all.................
[QUOTE=Supersteve] One question I have though. When they slap their elbow, does that mean how handsome I am? [/QUOTE]Tacaño, Chichipato =cheapskate.
Give exact change wherever possible. Never give money to the girl at your table to pay the bill at La Mayorista - pay the bill your self as the girl could sneak in a fake bill in your change that she got stuck with herself. Not to mention wrong change etc...
Last night I was at a club and two sisters that I know were working and at my table we did a media (pat your forearm - not elbow) and some beers, bill was 39.000 I gave 46.000 and sis #1 took it to the cashier. As I was getting ready to leave sis #2 told me to wait for my 1.000 change, I said "Les deje 46.000". There was en ensuing brewha as 1 sister was cheating the other out of the propina.