Lima

[QUOTE=Gristle1;2822482]Hello All,

I'm still in Lima. I will be here until Sunday. So far I tried photokinesiololgas. Had one Venezuelan who was accurate as her pictures. Went to her apartment, other girls were there. Got GFE experience and all holes for an hour. The second one from the website was a Colombian. Went to her apartment, she didn't look like her pictures but she had an amazing body so I said why not. The price was good, unfortunately, the service wasn't. .. .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great update! Where did you end up staying? I'd really appreciate any input. I was planning a trip for a month and all Airbnbs I asked don't allow guests which sucks.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2822792]Thanks for the great update! Where did you end up staying? I'd really appreciate any input. I was planning a trip for a month and all Airbnbs I asked don't allow guests which sucks.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Hotel Lexus in Miraflores, it's guest friendly. I found a few airbnbs in Miraflores that were guest friendly as well when I was searching.

Decided to do another chonga run. I first went to Trocadero since it was closer and it ended the earliest at 1030 PM. Horrible decision. The place is in the slums and next to what looks like a run-down auto yard. Even the road was bad. 15 sole entry. The girls cost 40 soles and I saw why. The place had old women, fat women, and I think there was a tranny there too. Open area, building smelled like piss, and there were leaking pipes in the ceiling. I should have known something was up when an unattractive woman kept telling me to come into the building while I was vaping outside before I entered. Beds looked dirty and these chicks were constantly begging you to come into their rooms. This place has got to be for the low-class people. Felt like I needed a body condom to walk in there. I obviously didn't like anything about that place and left. Called an Uber, and oh my god it couldn't come fast enough. Went to La Colmenita VIP. Uber driver dropped me off at the wrong location. So I walked the rest of the way for 9 minutes. Again, I'm in the slums and I'm dressed pretty well. Wasn't worried, thought about what my bad used to always say, "Son, you're a big ass dude, no one's just going to roll up on you and try you and you got a mean ass resting ***** face. " Finally made it to La Colmenita VIP, and saw three police cars outside it and a police van. Had no idea what was wrong going there but it didn't look fun so I walked 9 more minutes to Las Sirenitas. Las Sirenitas has the same owner as Geisha. So I'm already thinking about last night's experience, lots of girls, and rushed service. Oh well, decided to try it out just so I can contribute to the body of knowledge in the forum. 10 sole entry, 50 soles for the soles I guess (I'll get to that part in a minute). Paid my entry, I turned my phone off before going in because I knew they would check it. They checked my pockets and took my condoms. Really annoyed me because I wear magnum things or magnum bare skin. I guess they want you to use their cheap ass condoms and buy more out of the vending machines there. It's stupid because my member is girthy and those tiny condoms look like a top hat on me or suffocate my member. Anyway, I walk in and there are a lot of rooms. They even have rooms upstairs. They had a stage where a girl was stripping, and a seating area upstairs and downstairs. Not as nice or big as Geishas's but I didn't come there to sit. Saw a Colombian with a big ass and decided to break my rule again. The rule is to not see Colombians outside of Colombia because generally, their service sucks when their not home. Made small talk with the Colombian and walked into her room. Asked her for the price and she said for a quick time (15 min) it was 50 soles. Then she said I believe 80 for half an hour and 100 for a full hour which includes a massage. I don't need a massage and these women aren't built for long fucking so I decided to do the quick time. BJ was decent. She did, cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. I eventually bent her over and pounded her doggy. Guess she didn't expect me to tear that ass up. She did ask me to leche, which I can't stand. So I increased the speed of my thrusts so I can climax. Overall, I think the girls were a bit average-looking. Only saw one I like which was the one I saw. So I decided the night is still young and I only busted one nut, I need to go back to the place I liked the most to get two more nuts. But before I left, I made sure security gave me back all my damn condoms! These packs of magnums aren't cheap. Ordered an Uber to Las Cucardas. Waited 7 min for the Uber driver to message me on the app to say if I have cash or card. I told him I have a card, and that's why I use Uber. To no one's surprise, he canceled the ride. Waited 10 more minutes for another Uber. That's the risk of going to Chongas located in shit areas, hard to find Ubers to pick your ass up after. Finally arrived in Las Cucardas, I think the be-team was working tonight. Didn't see the hotties I saw on Tuesday and no one was stripping. Anyway did my usual walk around. As I try to get through the hallway some chubby chick with braces blocks my way. I try to go around her and she intentionally blocks my way again. Then she speaks to me and tells me she wants me in her ass. I'm like whoa! I love me some anal but not from her when there are actual dimes in here. She starts grabbing my dick. Thank goodness I didn't get hard. Then she turns around and lifts up her skirt to show she's not wearing panties. She then grinds on my dick and he gets hard, damn it! I told her to relax, I have to go to the bathroom, which I really had to do. She says no, give me a kiss first. I said are you serious. She said yes. OMG, so I have to kiss this chubby chick just so she can move out my way so I can go to the bathroom. Meanwhile, the actual hot women are watching this. So fine, I gave her a kiss. She keeps kissing me. I hate myself right now LOL. I went to the bathroom. Had a beer, and saw a thick-ass Colombian that I saw on Tuesday that I didn't hit. The face looked too cosmetic to me. I may be overanalyzing, but from my experience, the ones that are dolled up with extremely big asses or enhanced body parts are good for looking at, not drilling. Did another walkaround and I happened to walk past the chubby girl's door. She grabs my wrist to yank me into the room. I'm halfway into her room. I'm pulling away. She's pulling me in. It's like a sick game of tug of war. She was strong as an ox. Probably because she had weight on her. After what seemed like forever I broke away and went back to the seating area. I decided to wait hoping she would either get off work or find a client. Did another walk around and finally approached the thick-ass Colombian. Told her, no need to sell me. I saw you looking at me several times and I want you. Went in there, and she asked if I had a condom. I smiled and put a magnum on the bed. She asks if I have a big penis. I told her I'm a grower, not a show-er. Told her it's ok, I'm more girthy than long. She laughs. She lays me down and gives me a BJ. She stops and said, wow it's big. I said well I didn't lie. Her BJ was good, I was impressed. She swirled her tongue while doing, something I never experienced. I kinda like it LOL. She gets on top and rides me and slowly rides me up and down and moans. After a few minutes, she asks me how I want it. I'm like come on, that big ass needs to be hit from behind. I thoroughly enjoyed doggy. I can tell she did too from looking at her face in the mirror while I was clapping those cheeks. I couldn't stop palming all that ass like a basketball while I was drilling her. She didn't even rush me. I finished extremely satisfied. Wish I was able to hit it again now as I type this. She tells me the sex was very strong and rich. I thanked her and left. On my way out, I saw the chick who took my vape on Tuesday. Said Hello, to her. Told her it was a shame that you asked for my whatsapp but didn't respond to my message. She says she never got it and she'll prove it to me. She takes me to her room, she gets her phone, opens whatsapp, and scrolls down. Well what do you know, an unread message from me. Told her what a shame, if only knew my net worth LMAO. Then I walked away. Got my belongings and called an Uber. While in the Uber I get several messages from heard that included "I'm sorry", heart emojis, and teddy bear emojis. Had the Uber pass by Pizza alley. There were definitely quite a few hookers there. Some dressed average, some dressed horribly. Wasn't interested in any of them. They looked rough.

Well, got two more full days left. I'll probably repeat with the Venezuelan GFE bowling ball (3-holer) during the day that I had previously since she's been blowing my phone up. Then Friday and Saturday night I'll go to Geisha and Las Cucardas to drain myself before the flight home on Sunday.

It wouldn't be a monger trip, I would be coming with my GF. 30 years or so ago I came Peru and used this guy who made all the arrangements, flights to Cuzco, hotels, tours, trains ect.

I'd like to spend maybe a week, or ten days, The Itin would be Lima, Cuzco, MP, Sacred Valley, Nazca and out. Ideally the person I'm looking for would arrange all the tour stuff, train to MP, entradas, ect.

If anybody knows anybody who does that please drop me a PM to Admin2 or just reply in the thread.

A2.

P.S., I did a search of the thread and all "guides" were for guys wanting to find hookers, which of course makes sense, but I'm just looking for a good tour guide that won't rob us.

[QUOTE=Gristle1;2822957]Decided to do another chonga run. I first went to Trocadero since it was closer and it ended the earliest at 1030 PM. Horrible decision. The place is in the slums and next to what looks like a run-down auto yard. Even the road was bad. 15 sole entry. The girls cost 40 soles and I saw why. The place had old women, fat women, and I think there was a tranny there too. Open area, building smelled like piss, and there were leaking pipes in the ceili[/QUOTE]Hey, thanks again for the wonderful report. How have tried hooking up with non-pros in Lima for pure GFE? I am starting to want GFE and with pros it has been hard to get. I would really appreciate any input.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2823216]Hey, thanks again for the wonderful report. How have tried hooking up with non-pros in Lima for pure GFE? I am starting to want GFE and with pros it has been hard to get. I would really appreciate any input.[/QUOTE]Here's my input on non-pros and GFE, it may go beyond your focus on Lima. I usually don't care for GFE too much. For me, it provides an opportunity for me to get sweet on them and to eventually start simping. It also provides an opportunity for them to tell us their sob stories about how hard life is and the many debts they have (Absolutely ruins my vibe). I feel if you want GFE from non-pros, what's the difference between that and having an actual girlfriend? I traveled to over 40 countries in the last 10 years and have been with pros and non-pros in all of them. From my experience, getting GFE from non-pros would require some kind of investment. Whether it be a long stay, the ability to moderately speak the local language, staying in area where locals live (not our tourist-friendly areas), or dates with gifts. Think about it from her point of view. If she's a non-pro, more than likely she's in school or has a regular job, which already limits her availability, which in turn limits the amount of time she is available to see you. Most of these women still stay at home with families and take care of their families as well, again limiting availability. Another point to consider, when we visit, we're using staying in a nice tourist area which is expensive to the locals. So oftentimes, the ones you like or meet, live farther out where it's more affordable, and only come to the nicer areas for work or a night out when they can splurge a bit. Usually, it takes some of these women an hour on public transportation or Uber to get to you if they are non-pros.

Anything is possible and from my experience, I believe you can get GFE from non-pros but it might take some time that you may not be willing to lose on your trip. I would suggest using Tinder or Bumble (Pay the fee to change your location and set it to Lima) a week or two before you get here to start laying down a foundation by communicating with them and giving them the opportunity to make themselves available. If you have Instagram, do a hashtag search for #Lima, or #(insert a popular spot in Lima that you know girls frequent, perhaps a bar or nightclub). Then add them and start messaging them. Or follow / like the club / bar and see which women follow them and then add them. Just make sure your social media looks somewhat engaging. Then message them.

These are the techniques I've used in other countries.

I just spent 2 weeks in Lima and here is what I think.

Forget about Peruvian girls; they are really on par with average Mexicans with no chest and no butt; they are also more distant than Colombians.

The only good looking girls in Peru are Colombians, Vennies and ecuadorians.

There are many "chongos" that have many girls and are well organized. These are "german style Eros centers" where girls are waiting for their Johns in their room.

The entry is very affordable ($3 average) and girls are cheap ($ 15 for 20 min).

My ranking for the chongos is.

1 las sirenitas.

2 la colmena VIP.

3 la miel.

4 trocadero+ Botecito (kind of far away).

5 geisha (too far).

6 las Cucardas.

There are several smaller chongos close to la Colmena VIP. Cheap but less quality. One just opened in calle "LOS taladros" but I forgot the name. Its a beautiful 2 storeys building with lots of rooms and good potential to grow.

Problem with Chongos is that they don't allow you to use your cell phone which sucks.

There is some daytime action in the streets too.

The girls in "jiron Zepita" are constantly harassed by the police and the "senerezgo". Only the ugly Peruvian trannies are allowed to work unfortunately.

Would I go back? Maybe; but not as often as Colombia where you have more options and closer to the US.

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Hi BigButtDetecto,

Good report, thanks!

Just a question, out of curiosity. Where did you stay in Lima?

I ask this because you label Trocadero + Botecito as "kind of far away" and Geishas as "too far", while, at the same time, you have no such objections to Las Sirenitas, La Colmena VIP or La Miel. But if you stay in Miraflores, San Isidro or Barranco, it is quite the opposite, with Geishas being the closest and Las Sirenitas being the furthest away. It would be very useful for all forum members to learn about lodging in the north end of Lima.

J. J.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2823740]I just spent 2 weeks in Lima and here is what I think.

Forget about Peruvian girls; they are really on par with average Mexicans with no chest and no butt; they are also more distant than Colombians.

The only good looking girls in Peru are Colombians, Vennies and ecuadorians.

There are many "chongos" that have many girls and are well organized. These are "german style Eros centers" where girls are waiting for their Johns in their room..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2823216]Hey, thanks again for the wonderful report. How have tried hooking up with non-pros in Lima for pure GFE? I am starting to want GFE and with pros it has been hard to get. I would really appreciate any input.[/QUOTE]It all depends on what you are really looking for and on your definition of non-pro. Strictly speaking, a non-pro is a girl who will not charge you money for sex and will have sex with you just for love and / or fun and / or lust. If that's the case, then [URL=http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?597-Lima&p=2823364&viewfull=1#post2823364]Gristle1[/URL] is absolutely right and I have nothing to add.

But if you're just looking for GFE and not necessarily from a non-pro, or if you're willing to be flexible and consider amateur girls, part-time girls, semi-pros, or whatever you want to call them, my personal experience is that you can find it on apps like Seeking-Arrangement or Glambu.

Granted, SA and Glambu are full of pros but, if you take the time, you can easily filter them out and find girls who are really looking for a sugar daddy, or just to occasionally supplement their regular income, and there is a very high chance to find real GFE there.

I particularly like Glambu as I've had quite good luck with that app; Among the girls I'm currently dating, and that I've met there, there is a girl who works on the final assembly line of a plastic toy factory and two university students (one a future engineer and one a future MD). Of course they are not hot pinup girls, just the girl next door type, but pretty, very sweet and very willing; real GFE. Of course, I've also had some bad results, but that's no different than dealing with agencies or ad pages.

J. J.

[QUOTE=Gristle1;2823364]Here's my input on non-pros and GFE, it may go beyond your focus on Lima. I usually don't care for GFE too much. For me, it provides an opportunity for me to get sweet on them and to eventually start simping. It also provides an opportunity for them to tell us their sob stories about how hard life is and the many debts they have (Absolutely ruins my vibe). I feel if you want GFE from non-pros, what's the difference between that and having an actual girlfriend? I traveled to over 40 countries in the last 10 years and have been with pros and non-pros in all of them. From my experience, getting GFE from non-pros would require some kind of investment. Whether it be a long stay, the ability to moderately speak the local language, staying in area where locals live (not our tourist-friendly areas), or dates with gifts. ... .[/QUOTE]Thanks very much, again for your input. I have a remote job where I can work anywhere so trying to use to find GFE. I am a POC in the West so my luck of finding a GF here has not been futile. So I need to do the digital nomad life for it. I came close to finding one in Costa Rica where I have been recently, but like you said not speaking the local language moderately well has been my problem. Anyway I will try your instagram advice. Thanks again! Tinder has been fairly good but I am not a looker so can't get much likes there LOL.

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2823803]It all depends on what you are really looking for and on your definition of non-pro. Strictly speaking, a non-pro is a girl who will not charge you money for sex and will have sex with you just for love and / or fun and / or lust. If that's the case, then [URL=http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?597-Lima&p=2823364&viewfull=1#post2823364]Gristle1[/URL] is absolutely right and I have nothing to add.

But if you're just looking for GFE and not necessarily from a non-pro, or if you're willing to be flexible and consider amateur girls, part-time girls, semi-pros, or whatever you want to call them, my personal experience is that you can find it on apps like Seeking-Arrangement or Glambu.

Granted, SA and Glambu are full of pros but, if you take the time, you can easily filter them out and find girls who are really looking for a sugar daddy, or just to occasionally supplement their regular income, and there is a very high chance to find real GFE there.

I particularly like Glambu as I've had quite good luck with that app; Among the girls I'm currently dating, and that I've met there, there is a girl who works on the final assembly line of a plastic toy factory and two university students (one a future engineer and one a future MD). Of course they are not hot pinup girls, just the girl next door type, but pretty, very sweet and very willing; real GFE. Of course, I've also had some bad results, but that's no different than dealing with agencies or ad pages.

J. J.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the valuable input, J. J. I am not necessarily that good looking so I am flexible to get GFE from semi-pros or part time girls. I did try Glambu and it looks really promising and the price not that expensive. I did invite girls and have been chatting with some some after they accepted. Some straight up quote their prices which is great actually.

Hoping that this works and I end up actually meeting some. Thanks again, J. J. Cheers!

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2823792]Hi BigButtDetecto,

Good report, thanks!

Just a question, out of curiosity. Where did you stay in Lima?

I ask this because you label Trocadero + Botecito as "kind of far away" and Geishas as "too far", while, at the same time, you have no such objections to Las Sirenitas, La Colmena VIP or La Miel. But if you stay in Miraflores, San Isidro or Barranco, it is quite the opposite, with Geishas being the closest and Las Sirenitas being the furthest away. It would be very useful for all forum members to learn about lodging in the north end of Lima.

J. J.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Centro.

I was closed to "jiron zepita" and easy access by bus to "el naranjal" where the daytime chongos are.

Also its centrical to miraflores, ate, callao.

I went to Geisha and was disappointed; there is another one close by that just opened (la clinica del corazon); it was hudge but I did not find spinners like in las sirenitas.

To me the gravity center for mongering is around the mega plaza and north plaza where you can find many street girls as well as chongos.

Trocadero has some good looking but many rooms are empty. The quality in "el botecito" is just not there but oddily that's is where the Peruvians flock, not next door.

The minibus to trocadero departs from plaza 2 de mayo and is not comfortable at all; It takes a long tome to get there.

In Callao I don't see any other place of interest.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2823804]Thanks very much, again for your input. I have a remote job where I can work anywhere so trying to use to find GFE. I am a POC in the West so my luck of finding a GF here has not been futile. So I need to do the digital nomad life for it. I came close to finding one in Costa Rica where I have been recently, but like you said not speaking the local language moderately well has been my problem. Anyway I will try your instagram advice. Thanks again! Tinder has been fairly good but I am not a looker so can't get much likes there LOL.[/QUOTE]So I'm confused about what you are looking for. GFE is a term for encounters with pros that have a bit of intimacy (Examples include: BBBJ, kissing, caressing, cuddling, etc.). You still pay them for their time. Are you looking for an actual girlfriend?

As far as being a looker. Don't sell yourself short. If you're a digital nomad, I assume you don't have children and are financially stable. Women get involved with men based on three forms of gratification (physical, emotional, and financial). No women is going to give you GFE and not expect something in return. Most want the financial security of having a man and guess what you make more than the locals so that already makes you desirable. Also, since you are American living there, you are a unicorn. That also makes you appealing from the curiosity of being with a gringo and the fact that you don't look, think, or act like the local men there. I always say pick a struggle (short, fat, or broke). You can only be one of those. Knowing the language appeals to nonpros because women like to talk and you investing in the ability to speak to her is a turn on. If you are a digital nomad and plan to live abroad, there's really no excuse not to know Spanish. Find an english speaker in the country you desire to live and schedule Spanish classes. They do it over zoom. The classes will be significantly cheaper than taking them in the USA. It seems like you want things easy my man. I'm a teleworker, so I know you have availability. There's really no reason why you can't be taking classes now from a Peruvian teacher or a Colombian teacher.

[QUOTE=Gristle1;2824247]So I'm confused about what you are looking for. GFE is a term for encounters with pros that have a bit of intimacy (Examples include: BBBJ, kissing, caressing, cuddling, etc.). You still pay them for their time. Are you looking for an actual girlfriend?

As far as being a looker. Don't sell yourself short. If you're a digital nomad, I assume you don't have children and are financially stable. Women get involved with men based on three forms of gratification (physical, emotional, and financial). No women is going to give you GFE and not expect something in return. Most want the financial security of having a man and guess what you make more than the locals so that already makes you desirable. Also, since you are American living there, you are a unicorn. That also makes you appealing from the curiosity of being with a gringo and the fact that you don't look, think, or act like the local men there. I always say pick a struggle (short, fat, or broke). You can only be one of those. Knowing the language appeals to nonpros because women like to talk and you investing in the ability to speak to her is a turn on. If you are a digital nomad and plan to live abroad, there's really no excuse not to know Spanish. Find an english speaker in the country you desire to live and schedule Spanish classes. They do it over zoom. The classes will be significantly cheaper than taking them in the USA. It seems like you want things easy my man. I'm a teleworker, so I know you have availability. There's really no reason why you can't be taking classes now from a Peruvian teacher or a Colombian teacher.[/QUOTE]Thanks again for your reply and input! I truly appreciate it. Yeah, I am looking for an actual girlfriend, but being a person of color (not a gringo per se I guess) in the West, I have not been lucky so started mongering to get GFE from pros. Also, found it a bit easy to get dates from real women in LatAm so started digital nomading. All I have going for me is the financial security and me being 6 ft LOL.

Yeah, there is no excuse not learning Spanish. I am going to start that right away. Yeah, I think I want it a bit easy. I guess I need to put in more work LOL. Thanks again bro!