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Was at RP on Sunday night, had a great night, when I left the securtiy guard tried to charge me some dodgy fee so I gave him 50 gr and he got lost.

The Royal Palace I was at last night and is very expensive. $100 USD for a 2 song strip dance. Plus the girls want to sit with you and ask you to buy them drinks which are usually about 400 gr per drink (£40 ish), so no chance. Also the girls only do a strip, no more than that so it is a rip off.

There was another place on the main drag (Krazcheck or however it is called) near Arena which is down an alley way with a red sign light up on it and called the Red Lion Art Club. Anyway was 100 gr to get in, then pick a girl straight away (so you don't have to tip stippers) and you can go out the back and bang her for about 800 grn (400 to 800 from memory) for up to an hour.

Stayed at the Rus Hotel and saw girls on the second floor bar looking for business but only about 5 girls there and they were average in looks. The funny guys still hang around reception but that is normal there I think. Next time I will stay in a hotel a bit closer to the city.

Also tried to out Roksolana last night but it all looked like no sign of life there. I even opened up the front door which was open and walked into the building, but I couldn't see any club there. Although there is a sign outside of a girl dancing. Weird. I would recommend calling first just to make sure they are open and confirm exactly where their front entrance is (yes, I did look at their map first), but for about 1, 500 gr you can get a one and a half hour Sultan massage by two girls which looks like good value according to their website.

Any questions let me know, but would stay clear of the Royal Palace Hotel strip club as it is more expensive than London.

At RP the girls were quoting $300 for the night for pretty good sorts, I would say about 8 out of 10 on the looks scale. It was reasonably busy, but still lots of girls. It looks like you need to pick your girl just before 2am as from that point on all the pretty one's started to disappear. Overall was the best "club" type atmopshere for some drinks and to meet some girls. I got Irina's (great legs, little girl brunette) and Valeria's (red head) mobile numbers too if any of you need them. Also, Valeria told me that I could take her to dinner on a night she wasn't working and meet around 6pm, then spend the whole night for $300. Just so prices are a bit more transparent for you guys.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Not to keep knocking him but I thought the girls he posted in the photo section were just average for Kyiv.

I still can't get over (believe) the girls at RP throwing themselves at him (sure, some of the minor league skanks (no relation to the doctor) do that, but it's not the norm. And the perfectly smooth hook ups with ho's from mamba/flirt, that just doesn't happen (most of the time).[/QUOTE]

This one could be worth debating! :)

[url]http://novynar.com.ua/gallery/politics/691?img=11[/url]

[QUOTE=Uke Boy]

You have just got to love the antics of FEMEN.

This time, it seems that have hit a new high (or low) in criticizing the teachers who give girls better grades if the girl agrees to oral sex or sex. The photos are well worth a look.

Those are some fine ladies.

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UB, many thanks for these occasional bulletins.

Working feverishly here at Castle Gergiev trying to come up with some way of getting on the wrong side of these girls! :)

[QUOTE=Gergiev]

This one could be worth debating.

[/QUOTE]

What kind of debating,

Master?

[QUOTE=Billy Elliot]Was at RP on Sunday night, had a great night, when I left the securtiy guard tried to charge me some dodgy fee so I gave him 50 gr and he got lost.

The Royal Palace I was at last night and is very expensive. $100 USD for a 2 song strip dance. Plus the girls want to sit with you and ask you to buy them drinks which are usually about 400 gr per drink (£40 ish), so no chance. Also the girls only do a strip, no more than that so it is a rip off.

There was another place on the main drag (Krazcheck or however it is called) near Arena which is down an alley way with a red sign light up on it and called the Red Lion Art Club. Anyway was 100 gr to get in, then pick a girl straight away (so you don't have to tip stippers) and you can go out the back and bang her for about 800 grn (400 to 800 from memory) for up to an hour.

Stayed at the Rus Hotel and saw girls on the second floor bar looking for business but only about 5 girls there and they were average in looks. The funny guys still hang around reception but that is normal there I think. Next time I will stay in a hotel a bit closer to the city.

Also tried to out Roksolana last night but it all looked like no sign of life there. I even opened up the front door which was open and walked into the building, but I couldn't see any club there. Although there is a sign outside of a girl dancing. Weird. I would recommend calling first just to make sure they are open and confirm exactly where their front entrance is (yes, I did look at their map first), but for about 1, 500 gr you can get a one and a half hour Sultan massage by two girls which looks like good value according to their website.

Any questions let me know, but would stay clear of the Royal Palace Hotel strip club as it is more expensive than London.

At RP the girls were quoting $300 for the night for pretty good sorts, I would say about 8 out of 10 on the looks scale. It was reasonably busy, but still lots of girls. It looks like you need to pick your girl just before 2am as from that point on all the pretty one's started to disappear. Overall was the best "club" type atmopshere for some drinks and to meet some girls. I got Irina's (great legs, little girl brunette) and Valeria's (red head) mobile numbers too if any of you need them. Also, Valeria told me that I could take her to dinner on a night she wasn't working and meet around 6pm, then spend the whole night for $300. Just so prices are a bit more transparent for you guys.[/QUOTE]

A part RP seem a real Rip Off... I'm not in to lap dance but that is a crazy price, for the same you can get a 19 y.o. blondinka fucking you for at least a cuple of hours...

Frankly speacking Rus Hotel is a satysfing quality/price... but a prifate flat is much much better. Never stayed there but visited. Nothing to have.

IT

just my two cents

[QUOTE=Billy Elliot]There was another place on the main drag (Krazcheck or however it is called) near Arena which is down an alley way with a red sign light up on it and called the Red Lion Art Club. Anyway was 100 gr to get in, then pick a girl straight away (so you don't have to tip stippers) and you can go out the back and bang her for about 800 grn (400 to 800 from memory) for up to an hour. [/quote]I have walked past this place many times, but never went in. Every time I have wondered what kind of place is that? Can you give more information? Is it a strip club? Is take out of girls possible? The location is great, very close to where I usually stay.

[QUOTE=Billy Elliot]Was at RP on Sunday night, had a great night, when I left the securtiy guard tried to charge me some dodgy fee so I gave him 50 gr and he got lost.

The Royal Palace I was at last night and is very expensive. $100 USD for a 2 song strip dance. Plus the girls want to sit with you and ask you to buy them drinks which are usually about 400 gr per drink (£40 ish), so no chance. Also the girls only do a strip, no more than that so it is a rip off.

There was another place on the main drag (Krazcheck or however it is called) near Arena which is down an alley way with a red sign light up on it and called the Red Lion Art Club. Anyway was 100 gr to get in, then pick a girl straight away (so you don't have to tip stippers) and you can go out the back and bang her for about 800 grn (400 to 800 from memory) for up to an hour.

Also tried to out Roksolana last night but it all looked like no sign of life there. I even opened up the front door which was open and walked into the building, but I couldn't see any club there. Although there is a sign outside of a girl dancing. Weird. I would recommend calling first just to make sure they are open and confirm exactly where their front entrance is (yes, I did look at their map first), but for about 1, 500 gr you can get a one and a half hour Sultan massage by two girls which looks like good value according to their website.

Any questions let me know, but would stay clear of the Royal Palace Hotel strip club as it is more expensive than London.

Drinks and to meet some girls. I got Irina's (great legs, little girl brunette) and Valeria's (red head) mobile numbers too if any of you need them. Also, Valeria told me that I could take her to dinner on a night she wasn't working and meet around 6pm, then spend the whole night for $300. Just so prices are a bit more transparent for you guys. [/quote]I see you packed an interesting programme during your weekend.

The Royal Palace, you mean (Premier Palace) in the hotel by the same name.

When I went there in sept, it was empty, and it was a quick drink, and in and out for me.

Rio strip club, is one of the best, and girls can be taken out for $300, when they finish work at 5 am, at least this is, what I was told by one of the girls.

I didn't take up her offer.

Your best discovery, I must say is The Red Lion Art club, this is the sort of establishment, that I was looking for in Kiev, and couldn't find it. Next time.

How were the girls on the looks scale?

Roksolana, is not a club, but a Massage parlour. Just a Kiev apartment, with 3 rooms, and a big bathtub.

It is located in the courtyard, off the main street. You need to key in the code 37 on the main door, and pull the handle down, and walk up to the apartment on the left, I think either on the first, or second floor.

YOu can make an appt, and they arrange for a girl to meet you downstairs.

It is a bit tricky to find, and I had problems finding it first time. So a phone should be at hand.

River Palace. I am not sure about this dodgy fee?

Are you sure, it wasn't for checking your coat in?

I have never been asked to pay any fees, when leaving.

Valeria, seems to be a resident at RP, and can be very persistent. She can be a good guide, since she claims on her card to be a traslator, fluent in 4 or 5 languages. Not a stunner by anymeans, and certainly not worth the $300, she is quoting.

Irina. Now you mentioned (Great Legs), jogged my memory, and I do recall, she has long blond hair and tall. Is she the one.?

The $3oo, quotations, wouldn't be bad, if the girls stay for say a min of 3 to 4 hours. This should compare favourably with hourly rates quoted, by the really attractive ones from agencies and indies on the web sites.

But why waste $300, on just one girls, when you can sample few others?

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[QUOTE=Billy Elliot]

At RP the girls quote $300 for the night, they are 8's on the 10 scale.

You need to pick your girl just before 2am as from that point, all the pretty one's started to disappear.

Just so prices are a bit more transparent for you guys.

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Looks like all mongers need to hire Hunter to be their RP wingman/ price negotiator, (like Bill Shatner!), since he is the obvious Tsar of the Pussy Palace.

Also, ranking a greedy RP professional prostitute with a score of 8, that processes you like a piece of meat with a wallet, is just not the same as a romance with a horny office secretary.

Oh wait, I forgot that Hunter proved that every RP pro and agency escort pro is even more GFE than non-pro students.

Has bin a while that I visited this site. Somehow got out of my mind.

Due to my work I have bin travelling to Ukraine about 160 times since summer 2002. I counted the stamps in my passports.:) Though the frequency of travelling has reduced the last 2 years I still have chance to travel regular.

I learned a lot about the country, the language, the way of handling business and the way pros and "non-pros" (mostly students) work.

Prices for renting apartments went up the last 5 years and are falling down rapidly the last 6 months. The same counts for the buying prices for apartments, houses, land, food in restaurants and of course women.

Since about a week or two I am visiting this site frequently again! Astonished to see that still many forum members from the past are still here. So "Hi" to all who remember me or with whom I had a drink in one of the Ukraine cities.

Also there are a lot of new members of course. I read back a few months of posts and I was kinda surprised. I contacted Hunter for get a contact detail, but I am still waiting:.)

Here my 2 euro in short about Kiev:

- It is impossible to get a RP girl for $125.

- The price for "I look for sponsor" girls in flirt/mamba or other starts at about 450 grivna up to

- For 450 grivna you not get a beauty!

- U are lucky when you get a beauty starting at 800.

- The most pictures on the pink pages are fake! Especially when the price is lower then 800 grivna per hour.

- Ukraine girls learn a lot about deceases. Many do not suck without. Especially the beauties, who also mostly strangely are higher educated then the ugly ones do not suck without unless there is sympathy during the meeting or the price is extremely good.

- The less beautiful ladies do almost all for money.

- Almost all interesting clubs for foreigners have an amount of prostitutes waiting for meat (Decadence, Tsar, Arena, Patipa, Shooters, Buddah and so on). The chance of picking up a freebee is very low.

- To meet a freebee go to one of those new local pubs or a club more far from centre. For a nice pub in centre go to Lucky-star for instance. For a club I can recommend still Forsage, 112, Caribbean. The pros are low in these places. It is easy to get in contact with locals in a club. But it is just a contact. To get her in bed you need some more effort.

- Meeting someone on Kreshatik by speaking to her you can forget! Pravda. This was in the past already difficult and now it even worse. Then you can better go to a Double coffee or so and sit next to a table where one or two girls are sitting and try to get in contact. If you like it younger 18-22, go to Mc Donald or sit in one of the bigger internet café's next to a nice girl and just talk to her.

- If you do not want to be disappointed in what will be at your door after a phone call, go to one of the brothels and pick the one you like. There are several in centre. (Kreshatik, Basseina, Crasnoarmirska). You pay from 800 grivna or so, but you are not in shock if the one on the picture is not showing up.

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It is a strip club with about 5 or 6 girls in there (Sat night) which is open very late and does take out. The only problem with it is that everytime a girl dances near you they want a 50 gr tip (only £5) but I found it annoying especially when I was ignoring some of them.

If you go in, look at them sitting in the foyer as you go down the stairs on the left entrance and work out which one you want. Then you can take them out the back and bang that one. They do it with protection but seem good.

You can take out the girls too, am not sure from what time but I think the price was 3, 200 gr (about £300) so it is cheaper to bang them out the back.

When you walk down the corridor you turn left, pay your 100 gr to get and and grab a seat. If you want to bang someone in house it is cheap, but if none of the girls take your fancy then head back out. If you want to take a girl home, then RP seems better.

[QUOTE=Explorer69]I have walked past this place many times, but never went in. Every time I have wondered what kind of place is that? Can you give more information? Is it a strip club? Is take out of girls possible? The location is great, very close to where I usually stay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Billy Elliot]Was at RP on Sunday night, had a great night, when I left the securtiy guard tried to charge me some dodgy fee so I gave him 50 gr and he got lost.

The Royal Palace I was at last night and is very expensive. $100 USD for a 2 song strip dance. Plus the girls want to sit with you and ask you to buy them drinks which are usually about 400 gr per drink (£40 ish), so no chance. Also the girls only do a strip, no more than that so it is a rip off.

There was another place on the main drag (Krazcheck or however it is called) near Arena which is down an alley way with a red sign light up on it and called the Red Lion Art Club. Anyway was 100 gr to get in, then pick a girl straight away (so you don't have to tip stippers) and you can go out the back and bang her for about 800 grn (400 to 800 from memory) for up to an hour.

Stayed at the Rus Hotel and saw girls on the second floor bar looking for business but only about 5 girls there and they were average in looks. The funny guys still hang around reception but that is normal there I think. Next time I will stay in a hotel a bit closer to the city.

Also tried to out Roksolana last night but it all looked like no sign of life there. I even opened up the front door which was open and walked into the building, but I couldn't see any club there. Although there is a sign outside of a girl dancing. Weird. I would recommend calling first just to make sure they are open and confirm exactly where their front entrance is (yes, I did look at their map first), but for about 1, 500 gr you can get a one and a half hour Sultan massage by two girls which looks like good value according to their website.

Any questions let me know, but would stay clear of the Royal Palace Hotel strip club as it is more expensive than London.

At RP the girls were quoting $300 for the night for pretty good sorts, I would say about 8 out of 10 on the looks scale. It was reasonably busy, but still lots of girls. It looks like you need to pick your girl just before 2am as from that point on all the pretty one's started to disappear. Overall was the best "club" type atmopshere for some drinks and to meet some girls. I got Irina's (great legs, little girl brunette) and Valeria's (red head) mobile numbers too if any of you need them. Also, Valeria told me that I could take her to dinner on a night she wasn't working and meet around 6pm, then spend the whole night for $300. Just so prices are a bit more transparent for you guys.[/QUOTE]

So this Royal palace or Premier palace you pay $100 for two songs? That Is crazy lol, I wouldn't pay that In London! Is this some sort of tourist trap?

Jojosun, that is a great post mate, was very true...all of it, wish I knew some of that beforehand :)

- Yes, I mean the Premier Palace, it is apparently empty on weekends and only busy during the week after 11pm. It is expensive and being the only guy in a club means every girl wants a dance every 10 seconds and at $100 for 2 songs ur money goes in about a half hour so I would avoid the place;

- The Red Lion Art Club, there were 2 very pretty blonde girls (about 8 out of 10) and about 3 or 4 more 6 out of 10's. Expensive for take out, but eating in you can bang them cheaply. Just make sure you hit them up early on prices as small talk is not their thing.

- The RP was a made up fee by the bouncer as I walked out with 2 girls, was just trying to get some dosh out of me, as I was heading for the taxi rank. I also lost my coat tag and the girls were waiting for me as we were just chatting so I got hassled a tiny bit, nothing physical or intimidating, they just wanted a small "fee" as a tip. I didn't take the girls home, but they were cute I had a tour trip booked for 9am the next morning so take out would have been too tight time for me. I did see some ridiculously hot blonde dancing there but at 2am she was gone, I bet she charged a good amount though, but it seems like 2am is the cut off for the hot one's judging by Sunday night when I was there. I think I got charged 50 gr for checking my coat in so £5. You also need to leave ur camera in a locker but they are free next to the front door. I think the entrance fee was 100 gr but can't remember now.

- Valeria was very fluent in English, very persistent and a red head. She was not bad, but I think if you want someone for a whole night or a meet up on another night you can limit yourself to a $300 spend. The really hot one's you need to be a bit more clever about getting at better rates it seems. Irina was a brunette and very nice, but shorter, she gave me her card and words at a place also called Eden. I had a look at their website and they look like a normal massage place, at least according to the russian guys I was there hanging out with. There was some girl sitting by the door with a massive rack who was smoking hot, I didn't ask her how much but would think $350-450 would be close to the mark.

[QUOTE=Jojosun]I see you packed an interesting programme during your weekend.

The Royal Palace, you mean (Premier Palace) in the hotel by the same name.

When I went there in sept, it was empty, and it was a quick drink, and in and out for me.

Rio strip club, is one of the best, and girls can be taken out for $300, when they finish work at 5 am, at least this is, what I was told by one of the girls.

I didn't take up her offer.

Your best discovery, I must say is The Red Lion Art club, this is the sort of establishment, that I was looking for in Kiev, and couldn't find it. Next time.

How were the girls on the looks scale?

Roksolana, is not a club, but a Massage parlour. Just a Kiev apartment, with 3 rooms, and a big bathtub.

It is located in the courtyard, off the main street. You need to key in the code 37 on the main door, and pull the handle down, and walk up to the apartment on the left, I think either on the first, or second floor.

YOu can make an appt, and they arrange for a girl to meet you downstairs.

It is a bit tricky to find, and I had problems finding it first time. So a phone should be at hand.

River Palace. I am not sure about this dodgy fee?

Are you sure, it wasn't for checking your coat in?

I have never been asked to pay any fees, when leaving.

Valeria, seems to be a resident at RP, and can be very persistent. She can be a good guide, since she claims on her card to be a traslator, fluent in 4 or 5 languages. Not a stunner by anymeans, and certainly not worth the $300, she is quoting.

Irina. Now you mentioned (Great Legs), jogged my memory, and I do recall, she has long blond hair and tall. Is she the one.?

The $3oo, quotations, wouldn't be bad, if the girls stay for say a min of 3 to 4 hours. This should compare favourably with hourly rates quoted, by the really attractive ones from agencies and indies on the web sites.

But why waste $300, on just one girls, when you can sample few others?

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When I was there on Monday night the International Bankers Conference was on...but the girls even openly said to me that the place is very expensive and is really a place for Saudi businessmen.

That is why I had one dance with a very hot girl who spoke no English, then I took off. Once one of the girls asked me to buy her a drink, then I asked her which one and it was the Chivas Regal aged 18 yo scotch and was 400 gr so I saw the warning signs and headed for the door. The entrance fee is also 200 gr to get in!

[QUOTE=Jerboa]So this Royal palace or Premier palace you pay $100 for two songs? That Is crazy lol, I wouldn't pay that In London! Is this some sort of tourist trap?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer69]I have walked past this place many times, but never went in. Every time I have wondered what kind of place is that? Can you give more information? Is it a strip club? Is take out of girls possible? The location is great, very close to where I usually stay.[/QUOTE]If FS is available on site, and with some attractive girls at this club, this has to be one of the best discoveries not just in Kiev, but in many EE cities.

I still thinkl something similar is going on at TIXI OMUt strip club, but due to wasting time with some dates from flirt, I couldn't check it out during my last trip.

Next time.