Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2919325]I've never been ripped off at Red Dragon but I go there a lot. I also don't care about the money if I'm having a good time, that's the reason I go. However I'm never giving a mamasan a 10 k tip.

I agree that you do need to confirm that the lady will barfine if that's your intention because they do have drinks only girls there. Some won't barfine unless they really like you.

To answer BananaBoi's question it is a very hands on bar, guys getting lap dances all the time.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure tip of 10 k was not for momason, it was for girl to show up next day, but I'm sure moms tip was between 2-4 k min! As far as the ripped off part it's happened more then once their but maybe a lot to do with them taking advantage of his kindness! And yes about if girl likes you helps a lot, I follow his Lead but not in that way I've had several hotties from their meet me at hotel next day (getting their numbers) for more like 4-5 k range! But a lot probably has to do with the way he's treating everyone! But I stick to the hustle club part for guys just passing through! And yes the booth right behind stage I've seen some hands on dancing going on! Most likely with guys spending lots of money! Definitely worth haven a beer there and see lots and lots of young hotties!

[QUOTE=TomJones06;2916983]Hello all, I am currently In the land of smiles, the land of milk and honey, the Adult Disney World, or so I thought. A bit of backstory: I'm 36, blk, US Navy Sailor, and two years away from retirement. Before heading my final command, I decided to spend my transfer leave looking at different areas of the Philippines and Thailand for pote, ntial landing situations post retirement. I also figured ID kill two birds with one stone and get a little action in. After a successful week in Manila touring condos in Makati and BGC, and having to beat the ladies off with a stick, I made my way to Bangkok. First day was spent getting a signature spring massage at spring spa. Great deep massage from a portly old lady. I then toured a few apartments and dropped by Lolitas on soi 8. The girl was cute enough, but she failed to get the ole trouser snake to spit (I blame the young lady in Manila who went to town on me the previous evening.) I Called it a day after dinner and hit the room. The next day (yesterday) I toured more condos and did a tour of what Arun, lovely place, loved the history. Last night is where things got a bit sour. I'm staying on soi 11, so I decided to check out thermae. Now I'm not conceited, but I do consider myself to be a conventionally attractive individual. 5'11,230 lbs, muscular, with a six pack of and and well groomed / dressed. Also, from what I've been told, a very nice smile. I have never had an issue with the ladies in the you. S, or otherwise. Until last night. I got a beer and made a lap around the room and you would have thought I had a face tattoo that said AIDS on my forehead! Not a single lady in the room would even meet my gaze. I grabbed a second beer and talked to an older guy in a corner who told me to come back later as there would be more talent after 11 pm. I decided to walk the Sois and see what I could find. It was a bit wet out last night, but the streets were still packed. I think I discovered a cheat code on how to spot a ladyboy! As I was walking the ladyboys who were obviously ladyboys all tried grabbing me and, or called me sexy as I walked by. Not going to lie, this gave my ego a bit of the boost it needed, but I like girl butt. Unfortunately, the actual women freelancers standing on the streets wouldn't even meet my eye. Not even the African chicks! (One African chick did grab my arm, but I'm not convinced she wasn't a dude. Hard pass.) Ok, so at this point my feelings are hurt. It's honestly not the first time in my life I've been in a similar situation, but getting turned down by hookers kinda stings a little. My feelings were hurt. I made my way back to thermae and the place was way more packed with women, but again, not a single one would even look at me. I sat down and just looked around and a fuckin geriatric, balding Asian guy was getting blinded by the beaming smiles as he passed, WTF?! I'm not dumb, I get it. Who wants a big black guy with stamina when you can have an old guy who may not even rise to the occasion. I know this, but damn, not a SINGLE option for me?! I leave for the second time and make my way back to the room. I make it a point to smile at every single chick I pass on the streets and again, I'm treated like a fuckin lepur. I remember my first port visit to Pattaya beach back in 07 like it was yesterday. I was serenaded with calls of chocolate man, so sexy, and I had no shortage of ladies ready and willing to take me on. My how times have changed. I could have probably had some luck at Nana plaza, but I don't really drink like that and I'm not too keen on paying that kind of money when I'll be back In the Philippines this weekend where it's either free, or very cheap. I guess the moral to this story is if you are a relatively young, fit black guy in Bangkok, you may be in for a bad time. Not sure if the same applies to young white guys because I ddn't see very many out last night. If you're Asian, or I shit you not, a white guy who looks like the penguin from Batman returns in a fuckin mobility scooter, you will be a kid in a candy store.[/QUOTE]That's what I've been saying for literally years now TomJones, and I thank you for saying it too. Only in places like Thailand, where if you are old and look like Danny Devito can you get sex, paid or otherwise. I'm thankful that places like this exist, or I'd never be able to get laid. Ever. Cause I'm too ugly, and now I'm also very old. I thank Baphomet that I had a chance to go to Thailand couple times to fuck chicks, just by giving them some cash. It ain't just me either. You can be an ancient old farang, and ugly as shit, the Thai chicks will flock over to you and be all over you like you're some of kpop star just cause you're a white guy. A super old, decrepit, ugly white guy. It ain't about the cash or whatever, it's all about the status that apparently being with farangs confer. Even with the super old, ugly Danny Devito looking ones. Go figure.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2919372]Which one is Red Dragon?

I didn't even notice it. Is it one of the 2 bars used to be called Mandarin?[/QUOTE]Yes Mandarin is upstairs and Red Dragon is downstairs (2nd floor right side of Nana from the entrance, first bar on the right off the escalator.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2918893]2 girls and a bus load of horny men. Can't say I like those odds much.[/QUOTE]Maybe you were only joking, but I'll bite. It's not a big bus for 50 - 60 people. It's just a small van or limo that can only have one or two passengers (beside the 2 girls).

I am Asian-American, to be more specific Malaysian / indian -American. Pardon my english if I made mistakes in spelling and grammer. First of all thank you your service.

Fillipinos / Thais / Mainly Sealand aisans also indian subcontinent have strong influance from kpop, japanese and American / Europeans. White is seen as a symbol of wealth, beauty, and higher status in society that been said, as a black / indian / latino guy with little tan you will be seen as less desirable even with fit body and tall etc. Also to do with size of your packer. Sea girls prefer Asian / White custumers preferbly older cause they only need companion for dinner, walk around, and little bit of sex, they want to make as much money with little or no efforts. Sea girls see you as hard money, they have to work really hard which mean you will be fucking them left and right with multiple positions possibley all night or several rounds.

Why would they go with you, if they can get same amount of money or more with little and no efforts.

It doesn't mean you can't get laid, you just have to use little different approach, don't expect street girls, or therme cafe girls will crazy about you. What I do when I go to therme cafe.

I grab a drink, take a seat, and find my target, I also like slim thick girl just like you. After I see what I like, I give her eye contact, smile and invite her to me, or go to her and have little chit chat.

If they girl give you ridiclous price, means she is not into you, don't negociate and let her go. Most girls will negociate a little.

If I like her price, I start asking her questions what I like during sex, such as Do you kiss, do you love to suck? What position do you like? And I assure her that I will not tolerate any kind of nonsense.

Same direct approch towards street girls, you will get a vibe if she is into you or not. Never take a girl LT unless you seen her few times.

There are tons of girls in the sea area where they love chocklate men, you just have to find them. Good Luck, you can PM if you need more recommandation. Yes don't forget to visit 7 heaven for great BJ.

[QUOTE=TomJones06;2916983]Hello all, I am currently In the land of smiles, the land of milk and honey, the Adult Disney World, or so I thought. A bit of backstory: I'm 36, blk, US Navy Sailor, and two years away from retirement. Before heading my final command, I decided to spend my transfer leave looking at different areas of the Philippines and Thailand for pote, ntial landing situations post retirement. I also figured ID kill two birds with one stone and get a little action in. After a successful week in Manila touring condos in Makati and BGC, and having to beat the ladies off with a stick, I made my way to Bangkok. First day was spent getting a signature spring massage at spring spa. Great deep massage from a portly old lady. I then toured a few apartments and dropped by Lolitas on soi 8. The girl was cute enough, but she failed to get the ole trouser snake to spit (I blame the young lady in Manila who went to town on me the previous evening.) I Called it a day after dinner and hit the room. The next day (yesterday) I toured more condos and did a tour of what Arun, lovely place, loved the history. Last night is where things got a bit sour. I'm staying on soi 11, so I decided to check out thermae. Now I'm not conceited, but I do consider myself to be a conventionally attractive individual. 5'11,230 lbs, muscular, with a six pack of and and well groomed / dressed. Also, from what I've been told, a very nice smile. I have never had an issue with the ladies in the you. S, or otherwise. Until last night. I got a beer and made a lap around the room and you would have thought I had a face tattoo that said AIDS on my forehead! Not a single lady in the room would even meet my gaze. I grabbed a second beer and talked to an older guy in a corner who told me to come back later as there would be more talent after 11 pm. I decided to walk the Sois and see what I could find. It was a bit wet out last night, but the streets were still packed. I think I discovered a cheat code on how to spot a ladyboy! As I was walking the ladyboys who were obviously ladyboys all tried grabbing me and, or called me sexy as I walked by. Not going to lie, this gave my ego a bit of the boost it needed, but I like girl butt. Unfortunately, the actual women freelancers standing on the streets wouldn't even meet my eye. Not even the African chicks! (One African chick did grab my arm, but I'm not convinced she wasn't a dude. Hard pass.) Ok, so at this point my feelings are hurt. It's honestly not the first time in my life I've been in a similar situation, but getting turned down by hookers kinda stings a little. My feelings were hurt. I made my way back to thermae and the place was way more packed with women, but again, not a single one would even look at me. I sat down and just looked around and a fuckin geriatric, balding Asian guy was getting blinded by the beaming smiles as he passed, WTF?! I'm not dumb, I get it. Who wants a big black guy with stamina when you can have an old guy who may not even rise to the occasion. I know this, but damn, not a SINGLE option for me?! I leave for the second time and make my way back to the room. I make it a point to smile at every single chick I pass on the streets and again, I'm treated like a fuckin lepur. I remember my first port visit to Pattaya beach back in 07 like it was yesterday. I was serenaded with calls of chocolate man, so sexy, and I had no shortage of ladies ready and willing to take me on. My how times have changed. I could have probably had some luck at Nana plaza, but I don't really drink like that and I'm not too keen on paying that kind of money when I'll be back In the Philippines this weekend where it's either free, or very cheap. I guess the moral to this story is if you are a relatively young, fit black guy in Bangkok, you may be in for a bad time. Not sure if the same applies to young white guys because I ddn't see very many out last night. If you're Asian, or I shit you not, a white guy who looks like the penguin from Batman returns in a fuckin mobility scooter, you will be a kid in a candy store.[/QUOTE]

In Thernae now. 4 farang (including myself) and looks like 2 from India. Probably 100 Asian guys.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2919731]In Thernae now. 4 farang (including myself) and looks like 2 from India. Probably 100 Asian guys.[/QUOTE]The odds are in your favor.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2919792]The odds are in your favor.[/QUOTE]That's how I look at it too. How did you, the other Farangs and Indians fair?

I have to say 1 thing about the Japanese. They can immediately see who they want and within 1-2 minutes off they go with a cute girl you didn't even notice yet. Happened to me at Classic 2 nights ago.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919814]That's how I look at it too. How did you, the other Farangs and Indians fair?

I have to say 1 thing about the Japanese. They can immediately see who they want and within 1-2 minutes off they go with a cute girl you didn't even notice yet. Happened to me at Classic 2 nights ago.[/QUOTE]I was only there to check it out. Some women showed interest, but not all. One old farang was just sitting there by himself, not walking around or talking to any girls. The only ones I saw leaving with girls were Asian guys.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2919850]I was only there to check it out. Some women showed interest, but not all. One old farang was just sitting there by himself, not walking around or talking to any girls. The only ones I saw leaving with girls were Asian guys.[/QUOTE]Well when I'm there, that old farang guy would be me. I try to sit at the far right side table under the AC vent so I can keep an eye on the TV while I nurse my cola, get backslaps and shoulder rubs from the staff as they pass by and answer questions from clueless Asians in broken English.

The Japanese are pros in Thermae because they were the first wave and are the "#1" in the Asian hierarchy scale. I have talked to some Japanes guys that have been going there for years. Koreans would be next, Chinese are seen as ki nok or ban nok.

If I spy one I like, after relaxing, I grab her.

The food isn't bad there and if you ask for spicy, you will get spicy.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2919853] ........and if you ask for spicy, you will get spicy.[/QUOTE]Is that the food or the women?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2919853]Well when I'm there, that old farang guy would be me. I try to sit at the far right side table under the AC vent so I can keep an eye on the TV while I nurse my cola, get backslaps and shoulder rubs from the staff as they pass by and answer questions from clueless Asians in broken English.

The Japanese are pros in Thermae because they were the first wave and are the "#1" in the Asian hierarchy scale. I have talked to some Japanes guys that have been going there for years. Koreans would be next, Chinese are seen as ki nok or ban nok.

If I spy one I like, after relaxing, I grab her.

The food isn't bad there and if you ask for spicy, you will get spicy.[/QUOTE]Huh? The Japanese were definitely not the first wave in Thermae. When I started going there in the late 90's there were no Japanese. They didn't arrive until about 2001 and it first there were only a few of them at the back. This changed when the coffee shop at the Siam City Hotel on Petchaburi Road closed. It was the Asian Thermae. Many of the girls there migrated and the number of Japanese began to increase. Thermae was actually a very fun place before it became a majority Asian dudes. Gals we're far more forward and aggressive not standing like wallflowers occasionally giving a smile. Girls were drinking, partying, and dancing by the jukebox. Sadly I never got to go to Thermae when it was located down the street in the Miami Hotel. It moved about a year before my first visit.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2920016]Huh? The Japanese were definitely not the first wave in Thermae. When I started going there in the late 90's there were no Japanese. They didn't arrive until about 2001 and it first there were only a few of them at the back. This changed when the coffee shop at the Siam City Hotel on Petchaburi Road closed. It was the Asian Thermae. Many of the girls there migrated and the number of Japanese began to increase. Thermae was actually a very fun place before it became a majority Asian dudes. Gals we're far more forward and aggressive not standing like wallflowers occasionally giving a smile. Girls were drinking, partying, and dancing by the jukebox. Sadly I never got to go to Thermae when it was located down the street in the Miami Hotel. It moved about a year before my first visit.[/QUOTE]You misinterpreted me Goat, or I was too obscure. I thought it was clear from the context, they were the first wave of Asians in Thermae.

THermae is still a fun place, it just lacks young partying dudes like we used to be.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2920016]Sadly I never got to go to Thermae when it was located down the street in the Miami Hotel.[/QUOTE]Just looked it up in my journal -- the last night at the old location was 13 July 1996. There was no party as such but a lot of other old Bangkok hands showed up (I still keep meeting people who say they were there) and it felt like a bit of history in the making. I've never enjoyed the new venue as much but I'm probably just getting old and cranky. And yes, no Japanese as of then. It was mostly Anglophones plus some Germans and Scandinavians.

[QUOTE=Betong;2920117]Just looked it up in my journal -- the last night at the old location was 13 July 1996. There was no party as such but a lot of other old Bangkok hands showed up (I still keep meeting people who say they were there) and it felt like a bit of history in the making. I've never enjoyed the new venue as much but I'm probably just getting old and cranky. And yes, no Japanese as of then. It was mostly Anglophones plus some Germans and Scandinavians.[/QUOTE]Only asking out of pure curiousity, nothing more sinister. Have you kept a diary / journal of all your exploits since way back to 1996 and yonder? Wow, has to be book or two of stories you could publish amongst them!