American Politics

It is a rare pleasure when a Winger-leaning Mainstream Media source simply states the obvious and thereby acknowledges not just one but two Democratic Party Presidents' historic superior economic results.

Notice; "going back to Carter."

Biden's Economic Performance Has Proved Unbeatable.
No first-year president going back to Carter comes close to matching the current White House occupants No. 1 or No. 2 ranking in each of 10 key measures.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable

[QUOTE]U.S. financial markets are outperforming the world by the biggest margin in the 21st century, and with good reason: Americas economy improved more in Joe Biden's first 12 months than any president during the past 50 years notwithstanding the contrary media narrative contributing to dour public opinion.
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All of which makes Biden's first year in the White House the standout among the seven previous presidents, based on 10 market and economic indicators given equal weight. According to data compiled by Bloomberg, no one comes close to matching Biden's combination of No. 1 and No. 2 rankings for each of the measures:

Gross domestic product (1)
Profit growth (1)
S&P 500 performance (2)
Consumer credit (1)
Non-farm payrolls (2)
Manufacturing jobs (2)
Business productivity (2)
Dollar appreciation (2)
S&P 500 relative performance (2)
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GDP growth in every incoming administration during the past four decades never exceeded 2.74% until 2021. Biden is now positioned to surpass Carter (5.01%) as the GDP champion of presidents since 1976.[/QUOTE]Or, as Repubs and fake FUX News anchors would put it, "Biden and the Dems further destroying America"!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2645065]Sigh. Here are the facts.

President Biden may not recall what he said during a 2020 campaign debate last fall, but Americans should:

"Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."

At the time the USA Had recorded 220,000 Covid deaths.

"If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," Mr. Biden said last fall.

So, what happened when Joe-Biden-The-Science-Guy stepped in?

352,000 Americans died of / from COVID in 2020 under Trump (without vaccines available).

474,000 American died of / from COVID in 2021 under Biden (with vaccines available).

As WSJ notes, we recount all this not to blame Mr. Biden for this year's Covid deaths. The truth last year and this year is that the virus is impossible for any politician to control, much less eliminate.

Mr. Biden used the illusion he could vanquish the virus to win election, and he is now paying a political price because he hasn't.[/QUOTE]You obviously have forgotten the timeline here.

Who was president when schools were closed, many places of business were closed, etc? The former guy. Therefore, it must be your contention that all of the measures put into place during his administration worked, right? Lockdowns obviously worked, yet I distinctly remember you and the other Republicans on this board saying that lockdowns didn't work.

Which is it? Since there were fewer deaths under the former guy (when we were locked down), lockdowns clearly worked, didn't they?

Biden figured (wrongly, of course) that once vaccines were made available, everybody would take them. Democrats did. Independents did. But hard-core turmpers refused which is why the vast majority of unvaccinated are trumpers.

And since you claim that the vaccines don't work, who was president when the vaccines were developed? Who should shoulder the blame if the vaccines don't work?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2645065]Sigh. Here are the facts.

President Biden may not recall what he said during a 2020 campaign debate last fall, but Americans should:

"Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."

[/QUOTE]Sigh indeed!

Who could've imagined in the fall of 2020 that we would soon have two perfectly safe and effective vaccines and yet the vast number of die-hard Republicans would stubbornly refuse to take them for mind-blowingly idiotic pseudo-political reasons?

Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?

Let me help.

Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.

[URL]https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211124/unvaccinated-14-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid[/URL]

Of those 474,000 dead, how many hundreds of thousands have died due to their own stupidity?

Aside from not standing in the way of the vaccine development, Trump's did everything he could to downplay and sabotage the fight against Covid.

Biden is doing everything he can to fight Covid within the framework of our judicial system.

Yep we're still a democracy for now, at least until the midterm elections. What the fuck is Biden supposed to do? Shoot them in the head for refusing to get a vaccine?

So tired of those political hypocrites and their mind tricks.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2645374]Sigh indeed!

Who could've imagined in the fall of 2020 that we would soon have two perfectly safe and effective vaccines and yet the vast number of die-hard Republicans would stubbornly refuse to take them for mind-blowingly idiotic pseudo-political reasons?

Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?

Let me help.

Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.

[URL]https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211124/unvaccinated-14-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid[/URL]

Of those 474,000 dead, how many hundreds of thousands have died due to their own stupidity?

Aside from not standing in the way of the vaccine development, Trump's did everything he could to downplay and sabotage the fight against Covid..[/QUOTE]2021 is over. Who could have imagined Biden / Harris were totally incompetent. Who could have imagined that 2021 would have been this bad. Starting with XL Pipeline cancelled and cancellation of Trump border policies moving on to Afghanistan disaster then high gas prices, then supply chain catastrophe creating highest inflation in 40 years. Not to forget Biden having no clue on Covid and more people dying under his presidency than Trump presidency when there was no vaccine. Who could have imagined that in one year Biden is already worst president in history and Harris is worst Vice President in history. I think 74 million smart people knew in 2020. Now 210 million people know. Some will never learn.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2645252]Market is strong because Biden policies failed. Biden did nothing and Manchin killing BBB enduring markets would stay strong because of strong economic policies of Trump. Biden was only able to cripple the energy market by cancelling pipelines and drilling permits on federal land. It was only temporary as oil prices doubled in his first year and by end of year he had huge sale of offshore oil leases contradicting his first move. Yes we can thank Biden for one thing and he did it well. He virtually did nothing and it worked making my clients millions.[/QUOTE]Evidently you forgot that your guy (the former twice-impeached so-called potus) said [B]during a presidential debate[/B] that the markets would crash if Biden was elected.

What part of the former guy's comment did you not understand?

Guess what? It didn't happen. The market didn't crash. So, the former guy was wrong. Again. You can spin this anyway you want but the end result will still be the same. Trump lied. Again.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2645399]Evidently you forgot that your guy (the former twice-impeached so-called potus) said [B]during a presidential debate[/B] that the markets would crash if Biden was elected.

What part of the former guy's comment did you not understand?

Guess what? It didn't happen. The market didn't crash. So, the former guy was wrong. Again. You can spin this anyway you want but the end result will still be the same. Trump lied. Again.[/QUOTE]Trump said market would crash with Biden policies. Biden did nothing and market didn't crash. Thank the few smart democrats in the senate like Manchin and Sinema for the strong market.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2645303]Trump is still responsible for creating Trump's Pandemic in all its past, current and future variants and every death from it going all the way back to when he paved the way for it to happen in 2018 against all expert advice and warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous and every disastrous decision of his through 2020.

Biden's accurate statement still stands; Trump was and still is "responsible" for all the deaths, Biden is "responsible" for none of them.[/QUOTE]If the virus starts in China and China spreads it all over the world then you think Trump should be blamed for all USA deaths. Is Trudeau to blame for all Canada deaths. Who is to blame for the 2 or 3 million Chinese deaths and a million Russian deaths. Fortunately there can't be more than one stupid person in the world that could believe this.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2645308]It is a rare pleasure when a Winger-leaning Mainstream Media source simply states the obvious and thereby acknowledges not just one but two Democratic Party Presidents' historic superior economic results.

Notice; "going back to Carter."

Biden's Economic Performance Has Proved Unbeatable.
No first-year president going back to Carter comes close to matching the current White House occupants No. 1 or No. 2 ranking in each of 10 key measures.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable

Or, as Repubs and fake FUX News anchors would put it, "Biden and the Dems further destroying America"![/QUOTE]Until 2021 300,000,000 people in USA conceded that Carter was worst president ever. Now close to 200,000,000 think Biden has surpassed Carter. It is very hard to explain to the uneducated, criminals, homeless and illegal left wingers.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2645399]Evidently you forgot that your guy (the former twice-impeached so-called potus) said [B]during a presidential debate[/B] that the markets would crash if Biden was elected.

What part of the former guy's comment did you not understand?

Guess what? It didn't happen. The market didn't crash.[/QUOTE]Next you're going to tell me that Jon Jon was not resurrected in Dallas last month.

Party pooper.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2645374]Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?

Let me help.

Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.[/QUOTE]I would bet on the odds getting even more favorable in 2022.

Winning trends.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2645252]Market is strong because Biden policies failed. Biden did nothing and Manchin killing BBB enduring markets would stay strong because of strong economic policies of Trump. Biden was only able to cripple the energy market by cancelling pipelines and drilling permits on federal land. It was only temporary as oil prices doubled in his first year and by end of year he had huge sale of offshore oil leases contradicting his first move. Yes we can thank Biden for one thing and he did it well. He virtually did nothing and it worked making my clients millions.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EihTooms;2645308]It is a rare pleasure when a Winger-leaning Mainstream Media source simply states the obvious and thereby acknowledges not just one but two Democratic Party Presidents' historic superior economic results.

Notice; "going back to Carter."

[b]Biden's Economic Performance Has Proved Unbeatable.
No first-year president going back to Carter comes close to matching the current White House occupants No. 1 or No. 2 ranking in each of 10 key measures.[/b]
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable

Or, as Repubs and fake FUX News anchors would put it, "Biden and the Dems further destroying America"![/QUOTE]Further from the link:

[QUOTE]Exceptional returns from dollar-denominated assets, especially the S&P 500 Index in both absolute terms and relative to its global counterparts, can be attributed to record-low debt ratios enabling companies to reap the biggest profit margins since 1950. [b]Corporate America is booming because the Biden administration's Covid-19 vaccination programs and $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan reduced the jobless rate to 4.2% in November from 6.2% in February, continuing an unprecedented rate of decline during the Covid-19 pandemic.[/b]

Consider that real, or inflation adjusted, gross domestic product surged at an average annual rate of 5.03% in each of the first three quarters of 2021, and is poised to expand 5.6% for the year based on the average estimate of more than 80 economists surveyed Bloomberg. If that forecast proves accurate, it would be more than 2.8 times the average between 2000 and 2019 and double the average since 1976.
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The good times may extend into 2022. [b]Biden's bipartisan $1.2 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act bodes well for the economy and American labor because it will rebuild the nation's deteriorating roads and bridges as well as fund climate and broadband initiatives that create jobs. Even Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who said his priority was preventing the Biden agenda, voted for the law along with 18 fellow Republicans.[/b]

Biden, like Carter, now faces the political fallout of the [b]accelerating inflation from global supply chain breakdowns associated with the pandemic[/b] even though maintaining stable inflation and interest rates are the primary responsibility of the Federal Reserve, and the Fed said it's prepared to tighten monetary policy in 2022..[/QUOTE]BTW, the graphs from the non partisan official sites in that link are a joy to behold showing the consistent superior results of Biden, Carter and other Dems over the past 50+ years on the metrics that matter most.

As usual, the positive results for the Dems are dampened and appear less great than they actually were in that so many of them, especially Obama and Biden, took office just as the worst of the previous outgoing Repub administration's Great Repub Crash and Massive Jobs Destruction events were taking place and the resultant stink overlapped into the incoming Dem administration's calculated years. Which means the incoming Dem's overall results numbers took the hit for the failed outgoing Repub administration's horrific economic stewardship. And, naturally, that well known century's old pattern also meant the great recovery and positive trajectories established by the outgoing Dem administrations and handed to the incoming Repub administrations on a platter unfairly improved the recorded results for the incoming Repub before they got their way and typically fuck up everything. However, even with that undeserved assistance the Repub results still wind up atrocious on most of the important metrics.

[QUOTE=Canada;2645394]2021 is over. Who could have imagined Biden / Harris were totally incompetent. Who could have imagined that 2021 would have been this bad. Starting with XL Pipeline cancelled and cancellation of Trump border policies moving on to Afghanistan disaster then high gas prices, then supply chain catastrophe creating highest inflation in 40 years. Not to forget Biden having no clue on Covid and more people dying under his presidency than Trump presidency when there was no vaccine. Who could have imagined that in one year Biden is already worst president in history and Harris is worst Vice President in history. I think 74 million smart people knew in 2020. Now 210 million people know. Some will never learn.[/QUOTE]Who could have imagined that the cultists would be willfully ignorant enough to refuse to get vaccinated? Who could have imagined that the cultists would blame for XL Pipeline cancellation (due to be completed in 10 years) for rising gasoline prices when the rest of the world knows that OPEC production is a primary driver of gasoline prices? Who could have imagined that two years of ordering stuff on-line would have any impact of the supply chain? Who could have imagined that the cult is still trying to re-write history?

81 million smarter people knew in 2020. That's why they kicked the twice-impeached grifter to the curb.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2645374]Sigh indeed!

Who could've imagined in the fall of 2020 that we would soon have two perfectly safe and effective vaccines and yet the vast number of die-hard Republicans would stubbornly refuse to take them for mind-blowingly idiotic pseudo-political reasons?

Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?

Let me help.

Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.

[URL]https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211124/unvaccinated-14-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid[/URL][/QUOTE]120,000+ more deaths under your guy despite the vaccine, and you are still buying the Kool Aid on it. The two days with the most vaccinated people there have ever been with the vaccine, December 30 and 31, are the two days where there were the most cases of Covid, and you still are thinking the vaccine is great.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2645374]Biden is doing everything he can to fight Covid within the framework of our judicial system.[/QUOTE]Biden is doing all he can to transfer wealth to billionaires, literally robbing you blind, and you are too clueless to see it. Robert F Kennedy JR wrote a whole book on this very topic, and you have no clue what RFK is talking about.

As for your death statistic, do you know what covid related deaths are? No, I mean literally how do you prove them? How do you know if people died with Covid versus from Covid? It is not like the media would ever confuse those terms right?:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI5E8z89c9U[/URL]

The irony of course is that Brandon threw in the towel. He ran on something he could not possible defeat. Your guy comes in and is a failure by his own definition and he throws out the only line he can, "It's Republican's fault" the virus ran rampant, and you dumb douches buy it hook, line, and sinker.

It is a fucking virus. It is incurable. So what next? Oh yeah, he is going to make the planet cooler. And if it is cooler, he is going to take credit for it and if not, it is the fault of those damned Republicans.

And you douches will buy that shit too.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2645453]Further from the link:

BTW, the graphs from the non partisan official sites in that link are a joy to behold showing the consistent superior results of Biden, Carter and other Dems over the past 50+ years on the metrics that matter most.

As usual, the positive results for the Dems are dampened and appear less great than they actually were in that so many of them, especially Obama and Biden, took office just as the worst of the previous outgoing Repub administration's Great Repub Crash and Massive Jobs Destruction events were taking place and the resultant stink overlapped into the incoming Dem administration's calculated years. Which means the incoming Dem's overall results numbers took the hit for the failed outgoing Repub administration's horrific economic stewardship. And, naturally, that well known century's old pattern also meant the great recovery and positive trajectories established by the outgoing Dem administrations and handed to the incoming Repub administrations on a platter unfairly improved the recorded results for the incoming Repub before they got their way and typically fuck up everything. However, even with that undeserved assistance the Repub results still wind up atrocious on most of the important metrics.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-s-p-500-rang-up-68-records-in-bidens-1st-year-heres-how-stock-market-returns-stack-up-for-the-46th-president-against-others-11640969701?siteid=yhoof2[/URL]

I know that the rightwingnuts on this board will try to spin this every which way but correctly, but the proof is in the results. Especially the overall ones as listed below. The average market performance, since Hoover are: Republicans -1.2%, Democrats +14.2%.

But the wingers, of course, will say something else.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2645413]Until 2021 300,000,000 people in USA conceded that Carter was worst president ever. Now close to 200,000,000 think Biden has surpassed Carter. It is very hard to explain to the uneducated, criminals, homeless and illegal left wingers.[/QUOTE]Last time I looked.

It was 81 million happy faces.

Laughing at 74 million sad frowns.