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[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;1868635]So, are the clubs authorised by the government to collect income tax from independent contractors? If they are, I presume identification like tax file numbers would be required?[/QUOTE]They are. But just the girls WITHOUT tax file number are required to pay. And the club should issue them a receipt for the payments.
HB.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;1868635]So, are the clubs authorised by the government to collect income tax from independent contractors? If they are, I presume identification like tax file numbers would be required?[/QUOTE]No tax file numbers are required so far (maybe one hidden agenda with the new registeration of the girls from July 1st 2017 is also to introduce this). Girls get only daily receipt that she's paid the tax.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1868639]But just the girls WITHOUT tax file number are required to pay.[/QUOTE]And, those girls would be the ones who aren't German citizens?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1868639]They are. But just the girls WITHOUT tax file number are required to pay. And the club should issue them a receipt for the payments.
[/QUOTE]Yep but girls with tax file number are the large minority I guess less than three percent of the FKK club girls. And the daily down payment with 25 or 30 euro is still the better deal for the good money making girls, e. G with daily net income of 250 euro the average tax rate is only 10% with daily income of 500 euros only 5%.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1868648]And the daily down payment with 25 or 30 euro is still the better deal for the good money making girls, e. G with daily net income of 250 euro the average tax rate is only 10% with daily income of 500 euros only 5%.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Not really a down payment then, more a first and final payment.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;1868645]And, those girls would be the ones who aren't German citizens?[/QUOTE]As usual fed are causing all the mess LOL.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;1868645]And, those girls would be the ones who aren't German citizens?[/QUOTE]Probably yes, but also some German girls work without a tax number. If a girl does make a tax declaration at the end of the year and she has all the receipts from the down payment, those will be deducted from her tax due. That's the theory. Craoiva is right, majority of the girls do not pay more than the down payment, which should be a good deal.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1868674]Probably yes, but also some German girls work without a tax number. If a girl does make a tax declaration at the end of the year and she has all the receipts from the down payment, those will be deducted from her tax due. That's the theory. Craoiva is right, majority of the girls do not pay more than the down payment, which should be a good deal.
HB.[/QUOTE]In FKK. Receipt. Not realistic.
Do people think the hit on artemis is a one off due to its particular state of flux and present situation or is this the first in a systematic breakdown of all major german FKK clubs? Is there a hidden agenda here? I do want to ensure my June trip to hessen and future trips are safeguarded like all of us here. My inclination is that something is going on behind the scenes at artemis as the federal state could have boarded up the front entrance if they wanted to.I do hope the overreaction on this forum proves to be true. Look forward to any response.
[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1868930]Do people think the hit on artemis is a one off due to its particular state of flux and present situation or is this the first in a systematic breakdown of all major german FKK clubs? Is there a hidden agenda here? I do want to ensure my June trip to hessen and future trips are safeguarded like all of us here. My inclination is that something is going on behind the scenes at artemis as the federal state could have boarded up the front entrance if they wanted to.I do hope the overreaction on this forum proves to be true. Look forward to any response.[/QUOTE]I think authorities are more after HA than the club owners, it is just that tax thing was handy thing to attack at the same time as joint operation between different authorities.
As far as I know Artemis is not owned by HA as some media tried to portray. I mean they made it sound like Artemis is some kind of biker gang operated dangerous evil club. Which really is not. Usual media.
HA do not provide stunner anyways, usually tattooed silicone tits girls that I do not goto room with.
Are the owners released yet?
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As for girls having pimps or lover boy, that is their business and club did not enforce them to have pimps etc and we know this.
Either way, I never heard girls treated in evil manner in Artemis like some media are reporting. , I mean some media are reporting Artemis as some evil gang related working girl house that exploit women. I mean this is pure lie. !
[/QUOTE]Could be that the brothel prefers to use the gang as a "supplier" and to "manage" the girls. The authorities want to dissolve this partnership, so the gang ceases to profit from the prostitution trade.
Pimps and gangs serve their purpose. Although they can be ruthless, they are not bad 100% of the time. Many WGs do not have a choice to be truly "independent". Sometimes they even benefit from the services that the pimp and gang provide to them.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1869063]Pimps and gangs serve their purpose. Although they can be ruthless, they are not bad 100% of the time. Many WGs do not have a choice to be truly "independent". Sometimes they even benefit from the services that the pimp and gang provide to them.[/QUOTE]That's the same as saying that taking Africans as slaves to America was "not bad" as it saved them from being eaten by lions.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1869068]That's the same as saying that taking Africans as slaves to America was "not bad" as it saved them from being eaten by lions.[/QUOTE]Well it did save them from getting eaten by lions and all the chaos still going on in Africa though. It is just that the way took them was nice at all though.
Despite what goes behind the curtains (journalists may bring some instances into light on the media), law is still there, and it all depends on how strict the enforcement is.
So if I understand it correctly, there is a new law that tries to pass in summer 2017, but how would it damage the current FKK experience?
Even if they forced all sex services only with condom how could they guard it?