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[QUOTE=Supersteve]Mayorista may not be for everyone, but I really like it. ......... They both went with my friend for a couple of hours at less than one would pay for an hour at Fase Dos. Health & happiness to all.................[/QUOTE]
Glad to see it's not just me that can LIVE in Mayorista! I love love love the place.
Maybe you can help me out once again.
I have been to the places in El Centro in the past but did not go in on my last visit as I started taking medication in which booze is a no no. I felt it would be uncomfortable for me to sit there with just a water. Are these places OK with me going in an just "milking" a water for an hour or so?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Thats even worse, that you think you can club hop with the same bottle of water you had from other clubs(cheap bastard).
The reason they have "one drink mins" is because they offer entertainment. And some guys will try to take advantage of the situation and sit there all night for free if allowed. From a business owners standpoint and a mongerers stand point that's fucked up. You travel half way around the world and balk at buying a beer, when you've got more naked pussy running around the room and dancing than you have ever seen in one place. Just for your info were not talking about a 20usd beer. In Sandiego I buy a bottle of rum for 23 usd, it lasts me a couple hours while I enjoy the show plus if I choose I can share with the girls (what I don't drink there I take with me). Cheap beers in Sandiego run 4-8 USD each.
That deception talk is bullshit. You want to set the rules in someones establishment to fit what you want. But if you owned the club you would do the same thing. You did right to leave if you feel you were mislead, but then you bash the place because you didn't want to play.
Medellin is not for you and good luck in Spain. I can see the expression at the clubs from the workers when you arrive (Here comes this cheap bastard damn!)
P.S. Thanks for contributing your political frustration (Obamacare) to this sex board.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]This law is older than you Frank.[/QUOTE]
So the INFORMATION that one pays 500 pesos more for a taxi ride is correct?
Oh... I see... just taking another UNNECESSARY [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at Frank. I appreciate you pointing out the law is an old one, it merely shows some egotistical jealousy you have with Frank, however it doesn't change the fact that I STILL MUST PAY AN EXTRA 500 PESOS ON MY NEXT DECEMBER TAXI RIDE.
but I did pass by. I did see that my favorate door person was not around to grope me. Did not know if he was on vacation or not working anymore.
Just one thing I learnt during my visits to Colombia. When it is close to their time for vacation the husstle gets stronger and the need for extra money to cover vacation time, out of work, nears.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]Glad to see it's not just me that can LIVE in Mayorista! I love love love the place.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Justafool]Maybe you can help me out once again.
I have been to the places in El Centro in the past but did not go in on my last visit as I started taking medication in which booze is a no no. I felt it would be uncomfortable for me to sit there with just a water. Are these places OK with me going in an just "milking" a water for an hour or so?
Thanks[/QUOTE]The thing is you should want a drink(water, soda, beer) to respect the establishment. If its one of those overpriced establishments, ask for a menu to buy time(thanks Mr. E). If you sip that drink for an hour or longer thats acceptable. But to sit there and not buy anything while all that ass shakes in your face is pure tacky. Or maybe buy a girl a drink if you don't drink alcohol. Where I live its 10-20usd cover and a coke costs five dollars. Now I've been known to sneak some rum into the club for my coke(I'm not a cheap bastard but I've been known to be a sneaky bastard).
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]So the INFORMATION that one pays 500 pesos more for a taxi ride is correct?
Oh... I see... just taking another UNNECESSARY [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at Frank. I appreciate you pointing out the law is an old one, it merely shows some egotistical jealousy you have with Frank.[/QUOTE]I like Frank alot - one of my favs here. I bust him and AG as much as possible. Both have me rolling with some of their posts. This is not a new law and I am just trying to keep the facts straight on this board where oftimes there is a great deal of misinformation.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]..however it doesn't change the fact that I STILL MUST PAY AN EXTRA 500 PESOS ON MY NEXT DECEMBER TAXI RIDE.[/QUOTE]An extra 25 cents down the drain - and yet somehow life goes on.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]
For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin:
(1) With only one exception (a black girl at Abydos), all the girls or women working in these places I saw were overweight, and I saw exactly one pretty face (which was that of the girl I chose at Fase II). There are pretty young, thin women in Medellin, but none I've seen were working as prostitutes.
On the other hand, if you like women with big bubble butts and don't care if a woman has a pretty face, Medellin is your place. The girls at these central Medellin casas or apartments are almost all caucasian and young, and some of them might be just fine if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types. [/QUOTE]The reason for this is private enterprise. Ricker John Gault and a few other thrive on finding the diamonds in the rough - new to the field or at least new working in MDE. A great deal of these girls - the really good looking ones, thin model types that you are looking for - get a good deal of clients who "discover" them in the casas and get them to do TLN, which pays better and she's with a guy she already knows, trusts and had has hand selected for the TLN (the selection is a two way street). Couple that with some high paying Traquetos and foreigners and she can go private 3-4 nights a week at 525.000 a week take home at normal rates (min wage is @ 460K for the entire month) as opposed to under 300K-400K a week at the casa. I know a girl who makes over 4 millones a month and she has not worked at casa on over 2 years. If and when Johns and referrals dry up she goes back to the casa for abot 3 months and builds up more private clientelle - just like a stock broker cold calls.
This is why the really hot girls are only at the casas short time upon embarking on the career or short spats thereafter. Some good looking spinners go right to private thanks to other factors not mentioned here.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad](2) At all but the strip clubs (such as Fase II, San Diego Grill, and La Napa Lady's Night Club), the only familiarity you have with the girls before you have to choose one to spend time and money on is the less than one minute she walks in and shakes your hand or displays her bikini-clad body, front and back, to you. You have no opportunity talk with her and see if (a) she seems to like you, (b) is affectionate, (c) can communicate with you verbally, (d) is reasonably intelligent and pleasant to deal with. I need more getting-to-know-you time than that to feel like doing anything affectionate or sexual.[/QUOTE]Which is why mongering here for less than a few weeks has its drawbacks. You might need to do 4-6 duds before you find that 1 keeper and no, there is no place to hang out and get to know them (OK one place in Fatima) except in the bedroom. Or as another poster suggested you can build up a list of keepers every trip. This is the main reason I recommend SXM for mongering as you can socialize and click. As opposed to Wam bam thank you mam in Medellin - the girls get presented, they twirl, you choose and half an hour later you are out the door, zipping up your fly on the way out.
Some guys who are making up for lost time and counting notches for the lowest price possible love this. They are more into quantity than quality. obviously they are not screwing 50 year old leppers, I'm just saying...
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]
Since the level of attractiveness of the young woman at the inexpensive casas in central Medellin wasn't what I was hoping to find, I looked through reports on ISG to find the most [i]expensive[/i] places, thinking maybe the girls would be model-thin and prettier where the prices are higher. At Loutron (Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245) the madam quoted me 210,000 Colombian pesos ($110 US) for 1 hour, which is much more than you will pay for the same time at casas in central Medellin. However, without exception, all the women in the lineup at Loutron were so overweight I found them unappealing. I didn't see a truly pretty face, either. The situation was the same at Energy (Carrera 74, No. 49-101) where I was quoted 90,000 Colombian pesos; I can't remember how much time that was for.[/QUOTE]Said many times on here before - in the casas and strip joints higher price does not always mean higher quality in any department.
However the higher end places do generally have less fuglies - it's just that when there are a coupla sweethearts in the lower end places guys tend to only remember those and who can blame them? So they will say the girls are the same across the board in looks - but going to Fase II or San Diego and then to the Centro Strip clubs only Ray Charles would not notice a difference.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad] San Diego Grill, Calle 37, No. 45-15. This is a place to go after 8 p.m. after many of the private casas or apartments have closed. I was told entry was free ("libre") but after I went in and sat down a waiter told me there was a minimum drink purchase requirement, so I left without buying anything. Given enough time to look through the crowd, I might have found a girl I liked, but none I did see looked good to me.[/QUOTE]You can surely find great working girls in SD and all over the casas and strip clubs, even if you have high standards but it takes some persistence. As mentioned earlier some of the regulars here are great hunters.
No disrespect to Param AND I don't claim to be an expert on MDE. When I was there in 2005, my experience was quite different. I found the women in MDE to be very attractive with a large proportion of WG being excellent. I would love to go back to MDE again... but alas. Perhaps more seasoned mongers can comment on this post - perhaps things have changed in MDE?
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]Greetings to all from Medellin!
The above quotation is from my last post (9/30/2010) in the St. Maarten (SXM, Dutch side) section. But now I [i]can[/i] speak from experience, having spent several days in Medellin.
There is a lot positive to be said about Medellin. Despite being only 6 degrees north latitude, where I thought the temperature would be hot all year, right now in December, daytime is T-shirt or short-sleeve weather, and sometimes at night it has been cool enough I've needed a long-sleeved shirt (and sometimes an umbrella) to keep me comfortable. The 5,000 ft. above sea level elevation is probably one of the reasons for the comfortable temperature. Hotels, taxis and prostitutes are inexpensive in Medellin. The cheapest rental car I could find at the Medellin airport was $99 US per day. Taxis are so inexpensive and readily available I suggest avoiding the expense and parking hassle and difficulty navigating to your destination associated with having a rental car. I took a bus from the airport to central Medellin for about $7 US: The driver accepted US currency. So did taxi drivers, although you might save a little money by paying in Colombian pesos. The most expensive taxi ride I did was 15,000 Colombian pesos ($7.89 at the current exchange rate of $1 US = 1900 Colombian pesos). It is never difficult to find a taxi when I want one wherever in the City I am, and the taxi drivers so-far have all been friendly and have done a good job of getting me to the address I give them. I've seen no evidence of taxi scams such as payments to taxi drivers for delivering customers whereby me, the customer, is charged more at the club I'm going to because I arrived in a taxi, which was commonplace in Prague, Czech Republic when I was there a few years ago. Hotel rooms with a private bathroom I've stopped to look at ranged from about $6 US (yes, six dollars US! - tiny rooms with no exterior window in central Medellin) to $64 US per night at nicer hotels. With one exception, all Colombians I've met have been very nice people who went out of their way to be helpful, including hotel managers and front desk clerks and other hotel employees, taxi drivers, store clerks, a young woman who went out of her way to show me the way to walk to a post office, waitresses, and the people in the massage parlors and casas. Colombians are also very patient with my limited knowledge of Spanish. The one exception to how nice Colombians have been to me was late at night on a sidewalk in central Medellin: A young caucasian man grabbed me, shouting I don't know what, and in the ensuing scuffle I got knocked onto the sidewalk. But then as I got up my attacker and his amigos went away, either because he saw he had a fight on his hands or because a taxi driver stopped next to us to watch the fight. After this when I asked a hotel employee for directions to a place in the same area he warned me the area was "malo" (bad).
The setup at the "casas" or apartments in central Medellin are all about the same. The outside of the building is totally nondescript. Absolutely nothing outside gives any hint of what's going on inside or even that it is a business. I have no idea how customers find these brothels and massage parlors other than through ISG and word-of-mouth. The only way to identify the place is to have the exact address or ask a taxi driver. From the outside all these places look like a typical city residence.
You ring the door bell and are led to a room where you are invited to sit and wait. After a few minutes, girls come in one at a time to kiss you on the cheek or shake your hand and say her name. They may be wearing normal street clothes or more revealing attire. At Loutron, Abydos, and Energy (see addresses and GPS positions below), the girls, wearing a white shirt or coat that covers them from shoulders to hips, enter the room where you wait. Then they stand in front of you facing you, take off the white garment revealing the tiny tops and g-strings they are wearing beneath, and then turn around so you can see their almost nude backsides. While doing this she tells you her name so you will know who to ask for if you choose her after you've seen the all the girls. At all of these places I said "no, gracias" (no thanks) and left without choosing anyone and never heard any complaints or snide remarks nor was otherwise made to feel uncomfortable because I didn't like any of the girls in the lineup.
What's amazing about Medellin, and probably why so many men rave about the City as a sex tourism destination, is how cheap prostitution is: A typical price is 30,000 Colombian pesos ($15.79 in US currency) for 30 minutes. That is without question cheapest prostitution I've found anywhere. It is better than the Fylis/Filis Street area in Athens, Greece, where the price when I was there was about $15 worth of Greek drachmas (which means this was before the days of the Eurodollar). But in Athens (according to the madam or gentleman I spoke with at each of these places) that $15 worth of local currency bought you no more than 5 minutes with the prostitute - barely enough time for a mechanical "slam, bam, thank you, Mam!" (I wasn't tempted.)
For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin: (1) With only one exception (a black girl at Abydos), all the girls or women working in these places I saw were overweight, and I saw exactly one pretty face (which was that of the girl I chose at Fase II). There are pretty young, thin women in Medellin, but none I've seen were working as prostitutes. On the other hand, if you like women with big bubble butts and don't care if a woman has a pretty face, Medellin is your place. The girls at these central Medellin casas or apartments are almost all caucasian and young, and some of them might be just fine if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types. (2) At all but the strip clubs (such as Fase II, San Diego Grill, and La Napa Lady's Night Club), the only familiarity you have with the girls before you have to choose one to spend time and money on is the less than one minute she walks in and shakes your hand or displays her bikini-clad body, front and back, to you. You have no opportunity talk with her and see if (a) she seems to like you, (b) is affectionate, (c) can communicate with you verbally, (d) is reasonably intelligent and pleasant to deal with. I need more getting-to-know-you time than that to feel like doing anything affectionate or sexual.
Since the level of attractiveness of the young woman at the inexpensive casas in central Medellin wasn't what I was hoping to find, I looked through reports on ISG to find the most [i]expensive[/i] places, thinking maybe the girls would be model-thin and prettier where the prices are higher. At Loutron (Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245) the madam quoted me 210,000 Colombian pesos ($110 US) for 1 hour, which is much more than you will pay for the same time at casas in central Medellin. However, without exception, all the women in the lineup at Loutron were so overweight I found them unappealing. I didn't see a truly pretty face, either. The situation was the same at Energy (Carrera 74, No. 49-101) where I was quoted 90,000 Colombian pesos; I can't remember how much time that was for.
After visiting all of the below listed clubs or casas, the only place I found anyone who appealed to me was Fase II. When I arrived at Fase II about 6:30 p.m., I asked and was permitted to look at the rooms at South Beach Hostel next door, which is apparently part of Fase II. South Beach Hostel is an interesting setup: smaller buildings built inside a larger building. The rooms are, in my opinion, very nice with comfortable beds, clean linens and towels, and a private bathroom including shower. However, the employee of South Beach Hostel who gave me permission to take a look at the rooms told me Fase II doesn't open until 7:30 p.m. I explored the Premium Plaza Shopping Mall on the opposite side of the street (Carrera 44) from Fase II and South Beach Hostel and then took a taxi to a few other places before returning to Fase II at 9 p.m. Even at that hour on a Saturday night it appeared I was the only customer, or maybe one of two depending on whether the other guy sitting in the main room doing nothing was a club employee. I saw three or four girls talking with a man with SECURITY (or the Spanish word for that) on the back of his jacket. One who I think from what she was wearing is a waitress, not a dancer, actually was an attractive weight for her height but didn't have a pretty face. One of the other girls, mid-20s, had a perfectly pretty face and, while not as thin as I find most attractive, didn't look as overweigt as most of the girls I'd seen. At Fase II, unlike at Bell Suite, New Life, Masages Aiffe, Abydos, Loutron, and Energy, and most others, it is possible to have a conversation for however long you want with the girl and decide on the basis of personality as well as how she looks whether she appeals to you. After talking and holding hands awhile, she asked me, "Que quieres hacer?" (What do you want to do?) I spent about $107 for 45 minutes with her in one of the rooms at South Beach Hostel, including the cost of the room. She was so affectionate and passionate and apparently orgasmic I found myself thinking afterwards that with prostitutes like that, who needs a girlfriend?
But still, the next time I travel somewhere for the purpose of finding intimate female company, it will probably be Spain where at clubs like S'candalo in Malaga, Estark 92/Star of the Seas in Fuengirola, Lady's Dallas in La Jonquera, or Estark 95 in Algeciras, girls with pretty faces and thin, shapely figures in sexy outfits are everywhere. If you're selective about a woman's looks, the cost is about the same. If you're of the "all cats are grey at night" philosophy, you can save yourself a lot of money in Medellin.
Abydos, Calle 33, No. 64-198, GPS position N 06 14.378, W 075 34.946.
Alejas, Calle 54 (Caracas), No. 42-13, is now CLOSED with "ARRIENDA" (for lease) signs in the windows.
Bell Suite, Carrera 45 (El Palo) No. 56-45, 1st floor
Energy, Carrera 74, No. 49-101, GPS position N 06 15.576, W 075 35.422
La Piramide Egipto/Lindas Chicas - (named Casa de Piedra in a previous report), Calle 58 (Oriental) No. 50A-54
Loutron, Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245, GPS position N 06 11.086, W 075 33.273. I was quoted 210,000 Colombian pesos for 1 hour.
Masages Aiffe, Calle 57 (Argentina) No. 43-27, Tel. 254 51 39, cell 311 761 98 50. The business card says Monday-Saturday 10 a.m. to 8 p.m., 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Sundays.
Puntocon, Carrera 50A, No. 53-38: A previous report said closing time is 8 p.m., Monday through Saturday. I arrived at 7:45 p.m. on a Saturday and found the place shuttered (closed).
New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia), No. 43-39, 2nd floor
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Unlike the above, which have no signs outside, the below have bright neon lights like typical night clubs and restaurants:
Fase II, Carrera 44, No. 30-27 (behind Premium Plaza mall), GPS position N 06 13.818, W 075 34.245. I paid 10,000 Colombian pesos ($5.25 US) to enter. I was not hassled when I was asked if I wanted to order a drink and said no.
La Napa Lady's Night Club, Cra. 50 No. 52-10, Tel. 511 94 26. This is a strip club that is open until after midnight. There was no entry fee, but the waiter wouldn't go away until I ordered a drink, which I did in this case.
San Diego Grill, Calle 37, No. 45-15. This is a place to go after 8 p.m. after many of the private casas or apartments have closed. I was told entry was free ("libre") but after I went in and sat down a waiter told me there was a minimum drink purchase requirement, so I left without buying anything. Given enough time to look through the crowd, I might have found a girl I liked, but none I did see looked good to me.[/QUOTE]
The cliche is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or to each his own etc. I appreciate how well written Param's report is. It's much easier to evaluate things like taxi fares because they are the same for everybody. Any guy's preference for thicker or thinner women is harder to compare. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer for that. You have to judge for yourself and it's obviously harder to do that without pictures.
I get an uneasy feeling. Personally. About the desire to want to "connect" with the girls before you can fuck them. It's nothing wrong with that in my opinion but I don't think it's realistic to think it will happen with any consistency if you don't invest anymore than a few days. I'm not saying you have to go to Medellin and get married (I wouldn't recommend it there or anywhere else but that's for another post) but I do think anyone who needs to develop a relationship with girls to be satisfied better be ready to block out more than a week or two to do it.
[QUOTE=Crypton]No disrespect to Param AND I don't claim to be an expert on MDE. When I was there in 2005, my experience was quite different. I found the women in MDE to be very attractive with a large proportion of WG being excellent. I would love to go back to MDE again... but alas. Perhaps more seasoned mongers can comment on this post - perhaps things have changed in MDE?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Thats even worse, that you think you can club hop with the same bottle of water you had from other clubs(cheap bastard).[/QUOTE]My bottle of water from La Napa was still shrinkwrap sealed and mostly hidden in what I was carrying when I sat down in San Diego Grill. I wasn't trying to fool anybody as you imply.
[QUOTE]...You travel half way around the world and balk at buying a beer...[/QUOTE]I balked at dishonesty. And I did not come to Medellin because of the women here.
[QUOTE]That deception talk is bullshit.[/QUOTE]At the entrance I asked and was told entry was "libre" (free), and nothing was said about a minimum drink purchase requirement until I was inside and sat down.
[QUOTE]You want to set the rules in someones establishment to fit what you want.[/QUOTE]The only "rule" here is people abiding by their word. That's not just [u]my[/u] rule.
[QUOTE]But if you owned the club you would do the same thing.[/QUOTE]If I owned the Club I would tell all my employees dealing honesty with customers is a requirement of working for me, both because it is right and because it is good for business.
[QUOTE]You did right to leave if you feel you were mislead...[/QUOTE]I'm glad we agree here. That's what I did. Annoying business practices like saying one thing and doing another would stop if more customers said [u]no[/u] and refused to patronize such businesses as I did. It is a relatively minor annoyance, but it is all too commonplace. I thought I was doing my fellow ISG members and readers a favor of letting them know which businesses operate this way.
[QUOTE]Medellin is not for you and good luck in Spain.[/QUOTE]True, I won't be back to Medellin seeking female company.
[QUOTE]I can see the expression at the clubs from the workers when you arrive (Here comes this cheap bastard damn!)[/QUOTE]Actually, part of the fun in Spain is having so many beautiful young women after me (or at least what's in my wallet) it's hard to choose!
[QUOTE]Thanks for contributing your political frustration (Obamacare) to this sex board.[/QUOTE]Sorry if my three word parenthetical comment "(that includes Obamacare)" offended you!
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]My bottle of water from La Napa was still shrinkwrap sealed and mostly hidden in what I was carrying when I sat down in San Diego Grill. I wasn't trying to fool anybody as you imply.
I balked at dishonesty. And I did not come to Medellin because of the women here.
At the entrance I asked and was told entry was "libre" (free), and nothing was said about a minimum drink purchase requirement until I was inside and sat down.
The only "rule" here is people abiding by their word. That's not just [u]my[/u] rule.
If I owned the Club I would tell all my employees dealing honesty with customers is a requirement of working for me, both because it is right and because it is good for business.
I'm glad we agree here. That's what I did. Annoying business practices like saying one thing and doing another would stop if more customers said [u]no[/u] and refused to patronize such businesses as I did. It is a relatively minor annoyance, but it is all too commonplace. I thought I was doing my fellow ISG members and readers a favor of letting them know which businesses operate this way.
True, I won't be back to Medellin seeking female company.
Actually, part of the fun in Spain is having so many beautiful young women after me (or at least what's in my wallet) it's hard to choose!
Sorry if my three word parenthetical comment "(that includes Obamacare)" offended you![/QUOTE]
Hmmm....I might have to call bullshit here (or suspect bullshit), as the doorman most certainly did not say "libre", but would have said "gratis" to mean "free." Libre is not used in Spanish to refer to free in the monetary senes, but in the sense of "liberty" or "free pass" or used in duty free, at times, as something of a bastardization....So, I guess this makes me wonder about the veracity of your post...Just saying...
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]
For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin: ... (2) At all but the strip clubs (such as Fase II, San Diego Grill, and La Napa Lady's Night Club), the only familiarity you have with the girls before you have to choose one to spend time and money on is the less than one minute she walks in and shakes your hand or displays her bikini-clad body, front and back, to you. You have no opportunity talk with her and see if (a) she seems to like you, (b) is affectionate, (c) can communicate with you verbally, (d) is reasonably intelligent and pleasant to deal with. I need more getting-to-know-you time than that to feel like doing anything affectionate or sexual.[/QUOTE]
This need to assess chemistry with the girl is a huge issue for me as well, and a problem I encountered my first time there. I didn't request to speak with the girls but I was told after the fact that asking some questions is OK. (Can someone please confirm that this still holds true?)
In fact, I can't recall off the top of my head a prive-style brothel anywhere in the world that I've been to where my request to talk with a girl was declined. If that were the case, that's a real good indicator that the place is merely a "wham-bam" factory and not for me.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]My bottle of water from La Napa was still shrink wrap sealed and mostly hidden in what I was carrying when I sat down in San Diego Grill. I wasn't trying to fool anybody as you imply.[/QUOTE]Would it be safe to assume you don't drink alcohol? Maybe not even water if you made it to a second bar without opening the bottle.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]I balked at dishonesty. And I did not come to Medellin because of the women here.[/QUOTE]Are YOU being totally honest in this statement? What DID you come to Medellin for? Certainly not the bottled water! It's not that great in my opinion. Oh wait a minute.come to think of it I can't really say that since I don't believe I've ever bought a bottle of water in Medellin. Beer, wine and the tap water (with ice) at the Casa Blanca 1 & 2 have never made me sick.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]At the entrance I asked and was told entry was "libre" (free), and nothing was said about a minimum drink purchase requirement until I was inside and sat down.[/QUOTE]The doorman was telling you the truth. You asked if there was an entry fee and he said no. You got in without paying, right? Unlike Fase II that does charge an upright fee to step foot inside.
No one told you you had to sit and stay, I know many guys who will go in and walk a lap or two to take a look see and then decide to stay or not. However once they take a seat it's a given (at least in a strip joint) that one is expected to make a purchase. It's nothing new and probably not something even worth writing about.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]The only "rule" here is people abiding by their word. That's not just [u]my[/u] rule.[/QUOTE]"Really"?
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]If I owned the Club I would tell all my employees dealing honesty with customers is a requirement of working for me, both because it is right and because it is good for business.[/QUOTE]My goodness, it's not like the guy said " Come in! There's Free Pussy inside! ".
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]Annoying business practices like saying one thing and doing another would stop if more customers said [u]no[/u] and refused to patronize such businesses as I did.[/QUOTE]Not in the case of a Strip Joint. The multitude of men that come to see and pay for play with the girls could give two shits about such a minor "perceived" infraction.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]I won't be back to Medellin seeking female company.[/QUOTE]You said before that you didn't come to Medellin for the women. So when were YOU being dishonest, then or now?
By the way, I'll bet you a bottle of water that you do return.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]Actually, part of the fun in Spain is having so many beautiful young women after me (or at least what's in my wallet) it's hard to choose![/QUOTE]I agree with you on this statement. I had a blast in Spain.
Stay Horny My Friend,
Cubanut
Let's face it guys the casas are "wham bam" factories. There is nothing wrong with that. At least with the casas in Medellin, the girls come out in a line-up. With some clinicas in Sao Paulo, they only have a photo album or pictures on the wall.
I always ask to speak to the girl that I am interested in after the line-up. I have never been turned down. Once I was told to tell the manager what I wanted to ask the girl and it was relayed to her in the dressing room.
It's not a perfect system but for 30K ($16 at the moment) you can get to know a cutie for 30mins. If sparks fly you can ask for her number and arrange future 'dates' !
Mr Ahmad can have his own opinion. Personally I don't know Spain but the euro being what it is, I doubt the beauties he is talking about would accept $16USD.
For daytime action in Medellin, it is tough to beat the casas in centro. If you want to hang out, drink and possibly chit chat with the girls there is the strip clubs on Maracaibo which get started around 5pm. Perhaps Medellin could do with some fresh concepts.
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]
... For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin: (1) With only one exception (a black girl at Abydos), all the girls or women working in these places I saw were overweight ...
... The girls at these central Medellin casas or apartments are almost all caucasian and young, and some of them might be just fine if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types ...
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I agree amigo, sometimes you have to do lots of hunting to find 'your keeper' and the quality definitely runs in cycles, from very disappointing to 'damn, it's my lucky day'.
Chicas come and go in these casas frequently.
[QUOTE=Almotu]
Let's face it guys the casas are "wham bam" factories. There is nothing wrong with that. At least with the casas in Medellin, the girls come out in a line-up. With some clinicas in Sao Paulo, they only have a photo album or pictures on the wall.
I always ask to speak to the girl that I am interested in after the line-up. I have never been turned down. Once I was told to tell the manager what I wanted to ask the girl and it was relayed to her in the dressing room.
It's not a perfect system but for 30K ($16 at the moment) you can get to know a cutie for 30mins. If sparks fly you can ask for her number and arrange future 'dates' !
Mr Ahmad can have his own opinion. Personally I don't know Spain but the euro being what it is, I doubt the beauties he is talking about would accept $16USD ...
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You're right on Al, hard to beat the price.
I also, always ask to speak with the chica for a bit before choosing her.
Just chit chat with her a bit, I try to get her to laugh and feel comfortable with me too, all while I'm feeling out her attitude.
Sometimes I'll throw a little propina (tip) to the guy or gal presenting the chicas if they allowed me some chit chat with them.
They'll remeber ya when you return too.
Amazing what 2000 pesos will get ya.
It used to be when you entered a casa, everyone, out of curiousity wanted to see and / or be with the gringo, but now we're so common-place, that it pays to set yourself apart too.
Speaking spanish, showing that you're nice and easy-going, etc.
Like you said, you can hit some of the central strip clubs for chatting up the chicas too.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The reason for this is private enterprise. Ricker John Gault and a few other thrive on finding the diamonds in the rough - new to the field or at least new working in MDE ... [/QUOTE]
Bingo LuckyEddie!
You hit the nail right on the head.
Param Ahmad is absolutely correct in his assesment of general quality of the 'el central chicas', however, at least for me, the search is fun and when you find the diamond in the rough, it makes it all worth while.