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On a recent trip to BKK, I went to Levels Club on Soi 11. A fair share of the girls there are freelancers. The selection varies but I found some to be really good looking and easy to chat with. The crowds get pretty large there. It's easier to pick up a girl here than in other clubs in the immediate area with the exception of the beer bars.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2922058]Rain should not deter you from making your trip. Rains do not affect day to day life of locals or tourists. Don't be in two minds, book your tickets and hotel.[/QUOTE]It is rainy season now, the weather report announces daily thunderstorms and it has rained today for the first time in a week. For half an hour. LOL.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2921684]Tonight I had a look at soi Cowboy for the first time in years. Had a look at two bars (Suzy Wong and Shark) and had been received the same way in both places. A rude waitress wouldn't even allow to spend 5 seconds looking at the talent before sitting down and buying a drink. Told them to fuck off in both places. Never had a good experience in Baccara or Crazy house in the past, so didn't want to look them this time. Every other bars looked to be ladyboy bars or the scammer's bar. Seems that the whole soi turned to a rip off place.[/QUOTE]May be you should go to evening classes where they teach you about statistics. That way you will realise the dangers of forming conclusions from very small data sets.
[QUOTE=Bugged;2921983]Haven't been to Thailand in years and hoping to correct that later this year.
Is it worth going in September? I know it's supposed to be 'rainy season' but is it a downer and not worth going? That's the best window for me going at this point.
For reference, I was in Pattaya in about 1990 and it was amazing. I know it's not the same but I wanted to give Bangkok a go.[/QUOTE]I am in Thailand now and was having the same quandary as you about visiting in the rainy season. The Thai met office must have purchased a job lot of thunder and lightning stickers, because they appear to be on display everywhere.
It rained heavy when I arrived BKK on 3rd, and then virtually nothing during my trip to Hua Hin. Coming back to BKK today it p*ssed it down part way along the route, but clear when I arrived at my hotel. We've had a few spots this afternoon and evening.
So I'm staying in a hotel on Soi 8 and having porked a TF girl earlier in the night I'm having a couple of pints in one of the larger sports bars just down the road.
While I'm having my first pint a middle aged white guy comes in with a couple of black girls (difficult to see how good looking they are as they have big frizzy afros covering their face). One of the girls sits next to the guy, and he cuddles her and rubs her back from time to time (I assume they are an item). The other girl sits on the opposite side of the table, and they have a bottle of wine and some food. After a while the girl who is sat next to the guy goes to the toilet. As soon as she is out of site the guy get some money out of his pocket and slides it across the table to the other girl. He makes a gesture for her to keep quiet about it.
If they're having a threesome then just get on with it. If not what is the point of funding 2 girls if you're only shagging one of them?
Let's start with the positive. Tons and tons of girls at Thermae tonight. Quite a lot of decent ones too. Sadly tons and tons of guys too.
Maybe no one goes to Thermae or maybe no one goes for the TOP girls at Thermae. Well it looks like 3500 is the new 3000 from the old 2500, at least with the TOP tier Thermae girls. And no these weren't girls who didn't make eye contact with me and didn't want to go with me. They were girls who were very flirty and smiley with me. Yes, they want 3500 baht now.
Watched one girl reject at least 6 guys within minutes of her sitting down. I just thought to myself not another one of these girls who only look for a Japanese in there early 20's. The rejected guys all Japanese guys all 40+ and one farang in his 60's (good for him having the balls to approach her). Then I said I need to find out what's going on cause she's too hot for guys to be walking away. I said Hi she was friendly. Small talk. Upstairs I said. Sure she said. As I start walking away thinking that was simple she grabs me and says she is 3500 baht, Huh? I figured she knew she was by far the hottest girl at Thermae so figured she can pull in 3500. I was dumfounded (never heard 3500 being reported here) and stumbled saying let me think a minute. As I took a step back a Japanese guy in his 20's immediately grabbed her and off she went. There was no price discussion or any discussion at all. Not even a Hello! He just pointed upstairs. Well lesson learned but I assume I can go with her tomorrow. Did I miss reports of the TOP Thermae girls going for 3500?
Watched another pretty girl walk in the bar and she smiled as she passed me. I chased after her but some young'un Japanese guy in his 20s scooped her up. She hadn't been in the bar for 10 seconds! Hate when it's so crowded I'm going at 8 tomorrow! Those skinny Japanese guys move quick through a crowd like a Ninja.
Quite a few older Farang in there tonight as well as Indian guys. Didn't see any pull a girl from the bar. Saw lots of head turns. I had 1 head turn from a girl I would have went with.
Will be there again tomorrow. I can't go to gogo bars this week as I'm getting over some respiratory issue from Jakarta pollution and smoke in the bars.
Move through a crowd like a Ninja -.
That made me LOL.
3500 is that short time? Wowza. I guess, in the western world, that would still be cheap (I did pay a Thai bird (at Thermae) 5 K for medium time 7 years ago). Seems we've had monster inflation for P4 P over the last several years.
Must be all that QE and city bankers throwing money around like confetti-.
[QUOTE=BrodyasinChief;2922207]3500 is that short time? Wowza. [/QUOTE]No. Most are still 2500 to 3000.3500 for the top few percent maybe?
The girls were desperate tonight. Some really cute young girls with nice bodies just sitting around for a long time. All smiles to at least me anyways. I saw a few pretty girls who many guys asked and no one went with them. I can only assume they were asking 3500 as well. it may take a month or 3 but that 3500 ST will stick with the above average Thermae girls. They just let the prettiest ones condition guys that 3500 is the new black.
Did I ever see a lot of guys hanging around outside Thermae tonight hitting on all those ladyboys. It's become ladyboy central outside Thermae now.
I'm planning a trip in the next few months. I'm a total rookie and have never been to Thailand. My plan was to just show up and play it by year. Make it an adventure with zero plans. However I'm thinking if I do that I should probably at least have a Airbnb option if I want a guaranteed place to stay and make the rest of trip unplanned. Any good Bankok as well as pattyaya and Phuket Airbnb options that were good for you and no issue bringing back a girl?
Thank you everyone for the responses. I'll not worry about the rainy season when I plan my trip. Hopefully be there in September this year. Really looking forward to it.
I'm fine with the Hotter girls getting 3. 5 k while the rest get less.
What happens at a place like Rainbows is when the fully ugly charges the same prices as the Superstar they get NO customers.
Not all Girls are created equal as a few members in Pattaya might believe.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922199]Let's start with the positive. Tons and tons of girls at Thermae tonight. Quite a lot of decent ones too. Sadly tons and tons of guys too.
Maybe no one goes to Thermae or maybe no one goes for the TOP girls at Thermae. Well it looks like 3500 is the new 3000 from the old 2500, at least with the TOP tier Thermae girls. And no these weren't girls who didn't make eye contact with me and didn't want to go with me. They were girls who were very flirty and smiley with me. Yes, they want 3500 baht now.
Watched one girl reject at least 6 guys within minutes of her sitting down. I just thought to myself not another one of these girls who only look for a Japanese in there early 20's. The rejected guys all Japanese guys all 40+ and one farang in his 60's (good for him having the balls to approach her). Then I said I need to find out what's going on cause she's too hot for guys to be walking away. I said Hi she was friendly. Small talk. Upstairs I said. Sure she said. As I start walking away thinking that was simple she grabs me and says she is 3500 baht, Huh? I figured she knew she was by far the hottest girl at Thermae so figured she can pull in 3500. I was dumfounded (never heard 3500 being reported here) and stumbled saying let me think a minute. As I took a step back a Japanese guy in his 20's immediately grabbed her and off she went. There was no price discussion or any discussion at all. Not even a Hello! He just pointed upstairs. Well lesson learned but I assume I can go with her tomorrow. Did I miss reports of the TOP Thermae girls going for 3500?
Watched another pretty girl walk in the bar and she smiled as she passed me. I chased after her but some young'un Japanese guy in his 20s scooped her up. She hadn't been in the bar for 10 seconds! Hate when it's so crowded I'm going at 8 tomorrow! Those skinny Japanese guys move quick through a crowd like a Ninja.
Quite a few older Farang in there tonight as well as Indian guys. Didn't see any pull a girl from the bar. Saw lots of head turns. I had 1 head turn from a girl I would have went with.
Will be there again tomorrow. I can't go to gogo bars this week as I'm getting over some respiratory issue from Jakarta pollution and smoke in the bars.[/QUOTE]Great report. I'm on my way for this weekend.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922199]Let's start with the positive. Tons and tons of girls at Thermae tonight. Quite a lot of decent ones too. Sadly tons and tons of guys too.
Maybe no one goes to Thermae or maybe no one goes for the TOP girls at Thermae. Well it looks like 3500 is the new 3000 from the old 2500, at least with the TOP tier Thermae girls. And no these weren't girls who didn't make eye contact with me and didn't want to go with me. They were girls who were very flirty and smiley with me. Yes, they want 3500 baht now.
Watched one girl reject at least 6 guys within minutes of her sitting down. I just thought to myself not another one of these girls who only look for a Japanese in there early 20's. The rejected guys all Japanese guys all 40+ and one farang in his 60's (good for him having the balls to approach her). Then I said I need to find out what's going on cause she's too hot for guys to be walking away. I said Hi she was friendly. Small talk. Upstairs I said. Sure she said. As I start walking away thinking that was simple she grabs me and says she is 3500 baht, Huh? I figured she knew she was by far the hottest girl at Thermae so figured she can pull in 3500. I was dumfounded (never heard 3500 being reported here) and stumbled saying let me think a minute. As I took a step back a Japanese guy in his 20's immediately grabbed her and off she went. There was no price discussion or any discussion at all. Not even a Hello! He just pointed upstairs. Well lesson learned but I assume I can go with her tomorrow. Did I miss reports of the TOP Thermae girls going for 3500?...[/QUOTE]I've seen one girl that stays near the first table on the left and she's always turning down guys but I still see her get a few customers when i stay there longer than an hour. A little taller than the avg thai girl and seen her a few times my last few trips but not everyday. I eventually asked her and she's only one that quoted me 3500, well there was another that quoted 4500 LOL, guess just was trying to be nice and didn't to go with me. Noticed she always pointed up for Ruamchatt, and charged more if you wanted her to walk somewhere else. Quote was 3500 upstairs for 4000 to my hotel. That sound like the 3500 girl? I saw her in some youtubes videos let me see if I can find it.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922208]No. Most are still 2500 to 3000.3500 for the top few percent maybe?
The girls were desperate tonight. Some really cute young girls with nice bodies just sitting around for a long time. All smiles to at least me anyways. I saw a few pretty girls who many guys asked and no one went with them. I can only assume they were asking 3500 as well. it may take a month or 3 but that 3500 ST will stick with the above average Thermae girls. They just let the prettiest ones condition guys that 3500 is the new black.
Did I ever see a lot of guys hanging around outside Thermae tonight hitting on all those ladyboys. It's become ladyboy central outside Thermae now.[/QUOTE]Did you ever get the impression via body language or length of time in the discussion that some of the girls, including the TOP tier ones and / or the desperate ones, and customers were rejecting offers based on something other than the difference between 2,500 baht and 3,500 baht?
Such as, drum roll please, BBFS or not, BBBJ+CIM or not? Yes, even the typically or at least previously low demand Asian guys?
Could be a 45% increase in quotes and non negotiable price expectations has caused a lot of customers to expect at least a 45% improvement in the experience, even among the supposedly low demand weekend or year 'round millionaires.
I mean, I am not Elon Musk but I do alright and I would not hesitate after perhaps one try at a 500 baht reduction to happily agree to 3,500 baht for BBFS+CIP with a TOP tier girl in Thermae. But I would just smile and walk away from her and any other girl in the place as fast as you saw the rejections flying if she said "No" to DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP even if by some weird fluke a TOP tier girl's quote was only 100 baht.
Wasn't there at least some indication of those kind of things being the deal killers for either side rather than simply that she would not budge from 3,500 or 3,000 and he would not budge from 2,500?
Need some suggestion, if I get stuck in Bangkok and need to stay overnight. I usually stay near Nana, Majestic Suite, or Nana Hotel, but thinking about changing up.
Alternatives, when ever in town I do visit Therma but never had pull athough I have many choices usually by that time I've already empty the chambers and just look. But if I do need to stay thinking.
A. Ruamchit Hotel.
B. Nana or Majestic again.
C. Soi 8, Sawasdee Hotel looks ok but far down the Soi.
D. Ambassdor Hotel Soi 11, has club Levels?
E. Soi 22 of options with massage places.
I don't do LT, just a place to catch shut eyes for a few hours and take shower.
Thanks in advance.