Medellin Reports

I've seen a lot of posts here about using FB and SA in Medellin. I saw that there is a guide on how to use FB but was wondering if there is a similar guide for SA. Most of my mongering is done through photoprepagos and mileroticos with some spa action mixed in but based off what I have read here it seems that FB and SA give some really good opportunities too. Main questions I have are:

1. What do you message them at first? Should you just say I am looking for a PPM arrangement, what are your rates and what do you do? Or is it more subtle?

2. Should I message first or wait for girls to add me?

3. How soon before my trip should I start messaging?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2746924]I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I haven't had it happen since I got Global Entry, but prior to that I was stopped once in New York and once in Miami. Sometime around 2012-2014. I don't think it's complicated, just say your girlfriend lives there or you have property. What they can get you for is bringing controlled substances / medications back from Colombia so be careful about that.

In regards to sex crimes, I do know someone that was wrapped up in the Colombia Jake stuff and he was stopped, questioned, and retained both in Colombia and in the US. US Feds were in Colombia and they kept him overnight trying to get more information, but were primarily focused on underage stuff and suspected trafficking with his 'dating service,' not the normal prostitution.

This is good advice. Be advised however it is not strictly legal to lie to federal officials. It can cause a variety of personal and professional problems down the line. It's best to be honest and stick to the facts. If you claim to own property somewhere it's unlikely be an issue in the situation of an immigration conversation. It the inspector becomes suspicious, the very next question would be something similar to "what is the address of your property?" If you are going to deal in half truths or outright lies, you better be prepared for follow up questions. That is why a response like "I visited friends" or "I wanted to see the parts of the Botero collection I wasn't able to get to during previous trips. " Inspectors are on the lookout for nervous behavior, inconsistent statements, and profiles such as middle aged gringo men traveling alone. Information is power.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2746931]I haven't had it happen since I got Global Entry, but prior to that I was stopped once in New York and once in Miami. Sometime around 2012-2014. I don't think it's complicated, just say your girlfriend lives there or you have property. What they can get you for is bringing controlled substances / medications back from Colombia so be careful about that.

In regards to sex crimes, I do know someone that was wrapped up in the Colombia Jake stuff and he was stopped, questioned, and retained both in Colombia and in the US. US Feds were in Colombia and they kept him overnight trying to get more information, but were primarily focused on underage stuff and suspected trafficking with his 'dating service,' not the normal prostitution.[/QUOTE]

The reason for the questions is the inspectors are looking for people who are involved in illegal activity. If you can explain your reason for traveling to Colombia in any reasonable way without nervous or evasive behavior it is highly unlikely there will be follow up questions. The question international traveler hear from immigration people more than any other is "what is the purpose of your travel?" The most common follow up question is "what do you do for a living?" These are not complicated questions. Inspectors quickly become suspicious when they receive unusually complicated, hesitant, or evasive responses. When they receive the logical responses they normally receive delivered in a direct and natural manner, they send the travelers on their way. Hostile or agitated behavior will also lead to further investigation.

Some good examples: what is the purpose of your travel. Vacation, why so often. I have friends, some are retired, how do they like being retired there. They enjoy the climate and cost of living. Some bad examples: what is the purpose of your travel. Uh-uh what do you mean. I don't know, Sir what do you do for a living. I'm kind of an investor, Are you married. What's it to you!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2746924]I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

Drugs, human trafficking, money laundering / cash smuggling, fugitive from justice. They have their profiles and they are constantly on the lookout.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2746898]A good chance that it is drugs they are questioning. That is the other reason for frequent trips back and forth to the same place in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

That puts a damper on the trip for sure. Don't they use lube at New Life?

[QUOTE=Runner787;2746609]Went to New Life today. Pulled out only to realize the condom was a ring. Chich immediately freaked out.[/QUOTE]

Just came back from a 3 week trip. My main targets were new and repeat FB chicas and Centro SWs brought back to my apartment.

As far as prices go, in peso terms, I was pleasantly surprised that prices didn't increase much, especially zero increase in Centro girl prices. The dollar being so high right now I ended up spending a lot less than I thought I would.

New FB girls took what I offered last year but pressured me to pay an additional 20-50 mil for taxi. So after some meetings I just added more taxi money as a part of my initial offer. Girls I knew from last year or earlier accepted previous year's price without a taxi surcharge.

I got flaked on a lot this time, at least 10 times and 4 times from the same girl that I really wanted to see (and did succeed in seeing in the end). But since I stayed in Laureles, it was a 10 min taxi ride to Centro and before 8 pm there are always plenty of girls who'd accept my offer to go back to my AirBNB. Typically I would schedule an FB appointment one day ahead and confirm same day in the morning and again 2 hours ahead. The best is when the girl confirmed by herself. If the girl doesn't respond to the 2-hour notice, you're going to be pretty sure she'll flake or at least be very late, since it takes them 1 HR to do makeup / get dressed and 1 hour or so to travel by taxi.

Many girls from previous trips gained weight, so it's important to see recent pics even if you knew them from before. I posted a mini-guide on how to avoid overweight chicas a short while ago. I think it's a good idea to refresh your FB list before each trip to filter out those girls that haven't taken care of themselves.

If you enjoy girls with small thin bodies, Centro has great pickings. However the SW scene is just better in Bogota, so they were just backups in case of flakes. I don't think there's a reason to go to Medellin if your main goal is low cost SWs or in-house services in clubs.

Worst thing that happened this time was a scam that I posted about a few days ago. Some of the best sessions include a part time model with a perfect porn star body, a centro girl who just came from some small town in Venezuela who also had an excellent undamaged body, two girls who thought my ethnicity was exotic and was really into me (nothing like this happens in the US LOL).

Though I've been to Medellin several times before, this was the coldest trip that I can remember. I only brought 2 long sleeves and 2 jackets, none of these were particularly thick. I wish I'd brought one sweater because it did get really cold, like Bogota level cold, when it rained.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2746931]I don't think it's complicated, just say your girlfriend lives there or you have property. What they can get you for is bringing controlled substances / medications back from Colombia so be careful about that.[/QUOTE]Yeah it is not complicated when you tell the truth. Why lie? Because when they catch you in a lie they are going to put a microscope up your ass and you will probably end up on some list. When they ask you what is the address of your property or for your girlfriend's phone number, you better have a good answer. Once they had my buddy call the girlfriend he was going to see. Luckily it was not a lie!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2746924]I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. ...[/QUOTE]I think they ask question to catch your mistake. They don't really want your answer. That is why it is best to keep the answer simple. Let's say you traveled around the world for 12 months and returned from your last stop Mexico City. They may ask how long have you been in Mexico City? You say 3 days which does not match their expectation either by design or stupidity and they may act in a way that make you think you did something wrong but it really is that they ask the wrong question considering they do this everyday.

What's the best casa in terms of quality, when money is not an issue?

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2746931]I haven't had it happen since I got Global Entry, but prior to that I was stopped once in New York and once in Miami.[/QUOTE]The beauty of Global Entry is they typically don't ask questions like a lot of other guys have been experiencing who don't have GE.

In essence they just waive you thru but on a few occasions I've been asked if I have anything to declare which they always ask of non GE participants.

GE was set into place to streamline the immigration process, and anyone who travels internationally is foolish not to have it.

A perfect example of this having nothing to do with questioning, but are the wait times to get thru immigration at some airports.

Probably the biggest offender is Fort Lauderdale. I remember returning from Colombia with a buddy who did not have GE and it took him over an hour to get thru immigration and I was thru it in five minutes.

Not everybody can get GE though, but for those who can, just the wait time alone getting thru immigration is what the real value can be.

And after returning from Colombia the last thing you want to deal with are immigration officials asking questions.

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2746930]I've seen a lot of posts here about using FB and SA in Medellin. I saw that there is a guide on how to use FB but was wondering if there is a similar guide for SA. Most of my mongering is done through photoprepagos and mileroticos with some spa action mixed in but based off what I have read here it seems that FB and SA give some really good opportunities too. Main questions I have are:

1. What do you message them at first? Should you just say I am looking for a PPM arrangement, what are your rates and what do you do? Or is it more subtle?

2. Should I message first or wait for girls to add me?

3. How soon before my trip should I start messaging?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is what I did. You may get better advice than this but I am just saying how I did it. I am actually hoping others chime in. Obviously she can put the whole thing off the rails at any point or cut to the chase at any point.

1) Here is the "I know you're a nice girl but how much to fuck?" dance.

A) Hello,how are you, you have beautiful.

Response.

B) what kind of a relation are you looking for maybe we could meet if you like. Let's switch to Whatsapp.

She will probably give you some BS here. The best answer is beneficios mutuo. She will ask you what you are looking for – tell her you want the same.

C) after you tell her what you are looking for mention that the physical thing is important but be gentle about it, apologize for being forward but you are only here for a short time, would she like to come to your place for a drink, you would be happy to give her a gift.

She will ask what kind of gift. You should ask her what sort of gift she would like – you can now negotiate the price – after you negotiate the price. Then you need to lay out you expectations re services and make sure she agrees.

2) just message them.

3) I would not start more than a day or two before – you need to establish a date and time to meet when you are getting to the point.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2746924]I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I got stopped last year in Miami coming back from Colombia. I had gone to the Dominican Republic about 2 months prior & they quizzed me about both trips, took my iPhone and iPad to the back for about an hour. Caused me to miss my connection.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2746979]I got stopped last year in Miami coming back from Colombia. I had gone to the Dominican Republic about 2 months prior & they quizzed me about both trips, took my iPhone and iPad to the back for about an hour. Caused me to miss my connection.[/QUOTE]Interesting that you mention the DR. I went there with a buddy back in November of 2020 (depths of Covid). It was guy's golf and fishing trip as he doesn't monger. Anyway, we both exited the baggage area in Miami together and they stop him. I stay close thinking they mistakenly ID'd him when looking for someone else and the agent asks me why, I respond that he's my friend to which the agent asks 'Will you vouch for everything he has?' This guy is a close friend and we were together the whole time so I said 'Of course' which angered him further. My buddy waived me off and they took him to the back for 30 minutes. He said they didn't ask about any of his meds or sports supplements. They wanted to go through his iPhone and he asked if he was being detained as he had personal business that afternoon. He wasn't trying to be a hard ass, but he's an educated guy and knows his rights. Isn't intimidated by them. They said he wasn't so he was polite and asked if he could leave to which they acquiesced. The shit thing was he said they had his stuff spread everywhere. No help in re-packing like the TSA folks LOL.

This is spot on but be careful with the over the top specificity. Just respond truthfully and in a natural conversational manner. I had forgotten about what happened to me on the way out of Medellin years ago after one of my first non business trips. The policeman who checks passports just before the x-ray machines asked me the purpose of my visit. I responded "turismo. " he then asked me what I did during the trip. I told him I went to some restaurants and bars and the botanical garden (all true). This is the good part, he then said "you probably met some girls too" with a smile. I responded "si, comparti con unas cuantas viejas buenas. " That got a loud belly laugh out of him as he waved me through and told me to have a nice trip.

[QUOTE=MaxKane;2746889]Simple answer. "I have friends and / or family in Medellin".

Either that or transit via a 3rd country.

I'm glad I never get this, no-one really cares where I'm going when I leave the UK. However when questioned by customs / immigration they're often looking at how you answer, rather than what you answer with. Evasive language, hesitation, et al. Just practice answering with confidence.

"I'm going to see a friend".

"what friend".

"Steve, driller from Nebroma, met him back in 72". Go full Grandpa Simpson and they'll be begging you to stop.[/QUOTE]