[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2748015]I walked over to Lleras park to check it out. It's pretty torn up. I can't imagine hanging out anywhere near there right now.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering where the women who did hang out around Parque LLeras are now?
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[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2748015]I walked over to Lleras park to check it out. It's pretty torn up. I can't imagine hanging out anywhere near there right now.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering where the women who did hang out around Parque LLeras are now?
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2748013]I cordially disagree.
If you negotiate it outside the girl will have pena especially if she is with a group of friends because she isn't going to want her other friends to hear that she is working sin preservativo. I've had a success rate of about 75% using this method with most girls going for 80 k - 100 k range.[/QUOTE]There's a group of guys I know that would vehemently disagree with you about negotiating in the room versus beforehand for BBFS.
The biggest reason being is that they don't want to go with a girl, and then find out in the room that she won't agree to it. And then typically the session turns out to not be that great. So their thinking is that when they want BBFS, they don't want it to be hit or miss. And sometimes after getting in the room and guys are laying out what they want, some girls will not be happy campers, hence a bad session can happen, and nobody likes those.
And another reason guys don't negotiate in the room is because the girl is in a better position inside the room versus on the street when it comes to what it's going to cost.
And the guys I know always tell me is never, ever, negotiate BBFS with a girl in front of anyone else for reasons you have pointed out.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2748013]And I was going down on a SW (first time encuentro) the other day and she had a tampon in her totona LOL. I had her remove it and then went back to munching LOL. The blood was minimal and much less of a concern than the stupid tampon LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know if your really being serious here, and don't take this the wrong way if you are, but very few guys are going down on girls when they are on their period. Or maybe I'm just old school, or perhaps missed the memo. LOL.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2748103] If someone just wants to fuck, it requires very little Spanish. If you must have BBFS, than you probably need more Spanish.[/QUOTE]What your saying is very true.
It's true, you can get by with no Spanish speaking skills in obtaining BBFS, but it's can become quite a bit complicated at times having to use a translator, or something written.
Some guys I know have told me that most of the SW's that offer BBFS don't like being cream pied.
So imagine a guy with no Spanish speaking skills is barebacking a SW and comes inside of her and she freaks outs as she told him outside. Perhaps she was yelling "leche afuera", and the guy was clueless as to what was being said, and perhaps this detail was not understood or even brought up beforehand, he might of thought she was yelling Giddy Up, Giddy Up, LOL.
Maybe this isn't the best example, but it illustrates what your saying.
I would absolutely pay to watch someone walk around Centro with that sign. The reactions would be entertaining. I also think it would bring multiple offers.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2748021]Oh and another thing, a few months back weren't there a bunch of guys on the board here saying that they don't need any Spanish skills to seal the deal in Centro?
Now all the sudden the truth comes out that Spanish skills are in fact necessary to get what you want in this market, or I guess you could go around with your phone like Maddtraveler's buddy did. Or better yet just write the phrase on a cardboard sign like the homeless people in the US do to ask for money and just flash your cardboard sign at all the chicas? Jajajajajaja.
For u non Spanish speakers just print this out and carry it with you to Centro...[/QUOTE]
I guess I should not be surprised I have to say this. I recommend all negotiations take place away from groups of other people. I also agree it is better to negotiate before entering a room.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2748013]I cordially disagree.
If you negotiate it outside the girl will have pena especially if she is with a group of friends because she isn't going to want her other friends to hear that she is working sin preservativo. I've had a success rate of about 75% using this method with most girls going for 80 k - 100 k range.
And I was going down on a SW (first time encuentro) the other day and she had a tampon in her totona LOL. I had her remove it and then went back to munching LOL. The blood was minimal and much less of a concern than the stupid tampon LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2748095]Because that is how it works usually for most. It is not a certainty. Negotiate before you pay for the room, otherwise you are rolling the dice.[/QUOTE]I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that there will be some girls that will say no in public that will say yes in the room. And by using your method you would be missing out on those girls.
Check the surrounding streets beginning with la 10. You will also find them at the entrances of and inside Gustos and similar nearby businesses. Enjoy your time with them.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2748164]I'm wondering where the women who did hang out around Parque LLeras are now?[/QUOTE]
Think of Spanish knowledge as a tool that makes a job easier. The job at hand is pulling girls. If you know Spanish it is easier and more efficient to use it to pull girls rather than a translation app or non verbal gestures. It's no different than using a hammer to get a nail into a piece of wood rather than a shoe heel or other object. In either case you will achieve the objective but it is easier and faster with the advantage of the tool. Suggestions that guys who don't speak Spanish and come to Medellin will leave with blueballs is misleading to say the least.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2748103]As far as [B]don't need ANY Spanish skills[/B] goes, I think it is not a bunch of guys. It was Mr E and I can back him up on that, and also the best fried chicken part LOL, but that does not mean anyone can do it.
If you add some context, then it is easier to reach consensus. If someone just wants to fuck, it requires very little Spanish. If you must have BBFS, than you probably need more Spanish.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2747760]You find a 30 k centro girl.
After in the room:
1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).[/QUOTE]How strange that I always read guys stating to best get everything (money being the most important) agreed to whether it be with a FB, strip club, casa, or street girl before asking her to jump in the taxi or taking her to the supplied room or taking her to a hotel. Even in other countries the advice is the same. So all these countless guys using all these different formats to get girls and in all these different countries are wrong.
Yes. If you like drama this is the way to do it!
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2748164]I'm wondering where the women who did hang out around Parque LLeras are now?[/QUOTE]Arrived in Medellin yesterday on a spur of the moment trip.
Centro was great for me. Saw some chicas from previous trips and lots of new ones.
BB was always available if that's what I wanted. I almost always bring that up with girls I haven't seen before, during the chat before we go to the room, if that's what I want.
Fun times.
Parque Lleras was fun to walk about as well.
It was amusing to me that the girls on the street were asking for 300 mil. LOL.
Most easily went down in price with little negotiation.
Most just hope you're a naive gringo and that you'll accept their 300 mil price.
Lots of lower level type chicas in Lleras IMO, some scattered hot ones.
I would say 90% don't even get talked to by guys.
Several girls I talked with in Centro said they stopped going to Lleras, saying there are too many girls and mostly don't get any business.
Higher price paid means nothing in regard to the service you'll receive, and often it's reverse of what you might think.
Enjoy.
Truth bombs blowing up all over the Medellin forum today.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2748231]Arrived in Medellin yesterday on a spur of the moment trip.
Centro was great for me. Saw some chicas from previous trips and lots of new ones.
BB was always available if that's what I wanted. I almost always bring that up with girls I haven't seen before, during the chat before we go to the room, if that's what I want.
Fun times.
Parque Lleras was fun to walk about as well.
It was amusing to me that the girls on the street were asking for 300 mil. LOL.
Most easily went down in price with little negotiation.
Most just hope you're a naive gringo and that you'll accept their 300 mil price.
Lots of lower level type chicas in Lleras IMO, some scattered hot ones.
I would say 90% don't even get talked to by guys.
Several girls I talked with in Centro said they stopped going to Lleras, saying there are too many girls and mostly don't get any business.
Higher price paid means nothing in regard to the service you'll receive, and often it's reverse of what you might think.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and to take it a step further there are girls who will say no to going to the room while in public but if you pull them aside they will agree to it.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2748216]I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that there will be some girls that will say no in public that will say yes in the room. And by using your method you would be missing out on those girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2748230]How strange that I always read guys stating to best get everything (money being the most important) agreed to whether it be with a FB, strip club, casa, or street girl before asking her to jump in the taxi or taking her to the supplied room or taking her to a hotel. Even in other countries the advice is the same. So all these countless guys using all these different formats to get girls and in all these different countries are wrong.
Yes. If you like drama this is the way to do it![/QUOTE]Ok let's say everyone else is right and I'm wrong.
Every girl that would say yes in the street will still say yes in the room. There are going to be some that say no in the street but will say yes in the room. So if the girl would have said yes to begin with what is the difference? And if it was a girl that would have been ashamed to say yes in the street but would say yes en la pieza then you would have missed your opportunity with that girl, entonces usted me diga, que va a perder?
Here is a screen shot of a chica I barebacked with yesterday specifically telling me not to mention what we did yesterday to her friend. So you tell me bud, if she was with her group of friends and you asked her in front of them if she would do it, do you think she would be willing to say yes in front of them?
But you know what I'm done wasting my time, you go ahead and do it your way and I'll do it my way. There is no wrong way to monger.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2748203]I would absolutely pay to watch someone walk around Centro with that sign. The reactions would be entertaining. I also think it would bring multiple offers.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed it would be entertaining. I suppose if one where to do it, they could walk around in front of the Veracruz Church area, display the sign, and then go stand say opposite the glass covered walkway. And I envision some very desperate girls approaching the guy with the sign, albeit it's not going to be the cream of the crop approaching the guy. Another area to walk around with the sign is around Botero Park near the entrance to the Museum.
A sign would definitely work, and could attract a lot of attention, albeit the SW's would most probably through out a huge price for the services, unless it was a Sacalero or other fucked up SW.
But again, I don't think the guy is going to like what approaches him.