Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Nounce;2748653]It's not about if you pay up front or not. It's about losing leverage if you try to negotiate after you already pay for the room. It just a simple example and I am not saying it happens often. It takes a few seconds outside vs a few minutes in the room and the possible drama.

[/QUOTE]There is another reason why BBFS is not negotiated outside the room by some guys which I don't think has been touched upon as of yet.

For some guy's it's how they monger, it's how they operate, or their technique of mongering after identifying a girl to see what unfolds in the room.

And sometimes there are some unexpected and welcome surprises that both you and Gabacho have encountered.

I personally like seeing what transpires in the room with the girl, yet make it clear that the BJ will be uncovered, and leave it at that.

And I, like both you and Gabacho have had some uncovered FS experiences that I hadn't expected which was a surprise.

The last time this happened I was told 30 K by a small Colombian spinner. I asked if the BJ was uncovered and was told of course which is a good sign.

And once in the room I laid a condom out, yet when it was time to ride me, she just hopped on board to my surprise with no mention of the condom.

I was a bit nervous about it, but my little head said yes so I had to comply. LOL.

So pinning down all the details and costs for BBFS beforehand is not how some mongers roll, where as for others it's mandatory.

[QUOTE=ProPooper98;2748699]Was wondering if you guys have any idea what the rate for the high end girls (9/10's) off of seeking arrangement would be for a good date / intimacy.

Here in the states it's about 500 usd for a quality girl in seattle, wondering the same for Colombia. Thanks![/QUOTE]"Quality girl". Here we go again. Haha. Quality for me is a girl that will have great sex w me for less than USD 10. So on that basis. Less than USD 10. Or maybe you mean a philosophy graduate? Possibly others might give you other answers. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2748335]Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. But I very very rarely pay unfront, if a girl tries to charge me adelanto I always say "pago despues. " maybe you guys handle that differently, I don't know.[/QUOTE]I never pay upfront and I think size has nothing to do with it. Lol.

After the pre game chit chat we both know what's going on, and if I'm not feeling the vibe, I just move on.

Eazy Peazy.

Another day or so in Medellin and then off to Bogota.
The Vennies have been great!

Haven’t touched a Paisa yet, lol.

On my first trip to Medellin, I was happy with the outcome of meeting girls from Facebook. Yes, there were girls who chatted with me and said they would meet me but did not meet me. There were also girls who confirmed that they would meet me and then ghosted me. But it was far less than my online dating experience in the Philippines. On Facebook, girls usually had a fair number of pictures and most looked like their pictures when they showed up. Most of the girls that I saw were semi-pros or at least girls who denied that they were escorts but were open to pay for play when they need money. Generally I offered 200 to 250 mil for 2 hours. Sometimes transport was included, most times it was extra and I paid the taxi when they arrived. None of the girls were business like and all performances were good to great. Most of the girls were in the 18-21 age range with ID verification at the hotel. I always looked at the ID myself before they entered the hotel and no one lied about their age.

I did not take any girls outside of FB on my first trip. Streetwalkers and casa girls will be on my agenda on a future trip. Yes, it is cheaper in El Centro but I was happy with my experiences with the FB girls coming to my hotel room.

I enjoyed my first visit to Medellin and I will return. I stayed in the Poblado region and I felt safe in the neighborhood. There are places that are more dangerous. I recommend staying in Poblado for newbies.

[QUOTE=ProPooper98;2748699]Hey guys,

Was wondering if you guys have any idea what the rate for the high end girls (9/10's) off of seeking arrangement would be for a good date / intimacy.

Here in the states it's about 500 usd for a quality girl in seattle, wondering the same for Colombia. Thanks![/QUOTE]Typically from 400 k up to 800 k, so $90 to $180 for the very top girls, although I don't think you'll find a 10. It's not too hard to find SA girls that are quite attractive for 300 k to 400 k all in. The most attractive and made up girls tend to be on IG and a bit harder to connect with or they associate with the high net worth Colombian sugar daddies.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2748853]"Quality girl". Here we go again. Haha. Quality for me is a girl that will have great sex w me for less than USD 10. So on that basis. Less than USD 10. Or maybe you mean a philosophy graduate? Possibly others might give you other answers. Hehe.[/QUOTE]On the streets? Dumb questions. This board is the wrong place to ask. They're better educated girls in Bogota. SA maybe starting at $600 COP PPM down and make payments. $10 ? LOL use the glory hole.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2748771]...

For some guy's it's how they monger, it's how they operate, or their technique of mongering after identifying a girl to see what unfolds in the room.

And sometimes there are some unexpected and welcome surprises that both you and Gabacho have encountered.

I personally like seeing what transpires in the room with the girl, yet make it clear that the BJ will be uncovered, and leave it at that.

....[/QUOTE]From my perspective, it is more about cost and time. If El Centro is my main playground, I will chat with the girl but I won't negotiate too much except cost. I can fuck 7 girls in El Centro for the cost of getting an outcall to my place. I can fuck at least 20 girls in El Centro for what I paid for one in Sao Paulo. I will try my luck in the room and keep the base cost low in El Centro. 😂 That is what you observe GB is doing thus far so we are not that different. The reason I won't do the same with outcall simply because the cost is high. In Sao Paulo, I won't even take the girl is she does not DFK when negotiating. The reason is the same, cost is very high. LOL

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2748929]On the streets? Dumb questions. This board is the wrong place to ask. They're better educated girls in Bogota. SA maybe starting at $600 COP PPM down and make payments. $10 ? LOL use the glory hole.[/QUOTE]He he I think the question would be better posed as "how much is an expeniive prepago?" . I think that is really what he means TBH.

Hello, I was experiencing with webcam (mostly gals from Colombia and for this thread, a few medellin cam girls). I started in 2021 as covid restrictions hit Canada and with the cold weather at the time I said why not. Kill some time. Ohhh shout out to those like jjbee22 dropping knowledge and experience. Thanks!

Got a few whatsapps (stupid of me as I now know that's a dead end) I always like the challenge to shore "prostitutes". Strippers and such. These girls IMHO are virtual prostitutes not models. I guess industry leaders insisted in models to eliminate any shame as prepago sounds better than prostitute. Or off on another topic how abortion advocates use the word fetus as opposed to baby when discussing abortion. Point is, my definition is that they are prostitutes who work virtually.

Fast forward, when giving tokens as tips or getting private time with them, it's just like a stripper taking to you at your table or in the vip section booth if having a dance or 2. Their goal is to take out as much money as possible. Bear in mind my senior experienced members, maybe this might help a new fish. The success rate of converting a whatsapp into something deeper is slim. Happened to me but go figure, my chicks live in other cities. I do not want to fly them in. Send the money vis western union then get the. Text, ohhh I can't make it etc. As for the medellin chicks, either they don't do meetups, or made a few excuses (nice way of rejecting your date offer) .

I am stubborn at times, and I want to be able to get a webcam chick even for a date (without buying her time if that makes sense). So far I struck out. Granted, I was in medellin for a few days in 2021 and 7 days in 2022. You can't do sh!! If you want to meet up. I have a big strike against me, I do not live there and am there for a few days. Best is to pay the chicks and get on with it.

After talking with a few webcam chicks this is what they usually say like it is scripted. Both independent and girls who work in studios. In no particular order:

1. No hago reales, no hago encuentros (I don't do meetups).

2. Soy soltera. (I am single) yeah right.

3. Compra mi whatsapp why podemos charlar más (buy my whatsap so we can talk more) we can talk fine on the site dear.

4. Soy bisexual.

Experience costs money. After browsing some profiles I've noticed some posting (showing off in some ways) guys tipping these girls thousands of dollars. From mid tier to the higher tier in looks. Great for the workers! And no jealousy from my end. I asked myself, how the hell can I compete with a guy who is sending a model a few thousand bucks in a tip? I could do it, but I don't have that kind of spare change. Then I remembered talking to a buddy, and how 99.9999% of men who follow Instagram girls or webcam girls have no chance to even go on a date with them. It's those men who do not follow these girls, it's those men who do not join webcam sites are the ones dating these girls. Forget about p4 p. I am talking about forming a bond to gain her trust so you can meet up. It's damn hard to do when competing with big tippers. It's cheaper to even go to la isla then to get her whatsapp which is usually $80 usd plus tips and private time. (Again being outside of medellin hurt my really really really slim chances).

Could you get by on charm with these virtual chicks. Yes, but be ready to be treated like a clown. Her man she is probably banging does not do that. As for bisexuality, something is up as I noticed girls in the sex industry tend to be on the experimentation side, to each their own, is there truth to this? So, they swing both ways, do they say it to get more tips? Or is it true? How can I use this to my advantage? LOL.

My approach to webcam was never p4 p in real life. I always had that slim hope of getting the girl with my charm and a few tips here and there as they are working per se. Ego is a bi! Ch!

To sum up my rant, I choose to not out compete the big tippers as I know the juice is not worth the squeeze. I probably have a better chance to get her just by luck if I run into her in the mall. I would not doubt that the F buddies or boyfriends they have even girlfriends are not hotter or have more to offer than users in the site. Scary for some to meet up, I get it, but quite unwise after trust has been built up to not take a chance on a good catch sort of speak.

My advice, avoid buying the whatsapps or instagrams etc. If you are outside of Colombia or any other region, don't even bother buying private's etc. If you have hopes of one day shoring and dating her. If you are living there, the chances increase most definitely. Heck, only go on it if you live there and are really bored. Use a vpn of course. As I said, it's cheaper in many places for p4 p if that is what you want than getting a webcam chica to agree to meet you. La isla is probably a cheaper and better alternatives.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2748948]He he I think the question would be better posed as "how much is an expeniive prepago?" . I think that is really what he means TBH.[/QUOTE]I've been lurking for months but only recently got posting privileges. And then weekend will be one week since I sent transfered Bitcoin and messaged admin. But no sub yet.

I'll be going to making my first trip in November and am excited.

To prep I have added Facebook girls but they have not replied. Not sure to be straightforward or not. Those that do stop replying once I get to asking about P4 P. However I am also on Cupid and that has been interesting. Along the lines of what is too much. I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop CFS, and 1,200 cop for anal, super hot. Got another that quoted in $1500 usd can't remember the time but probably 1 HR, also hot. Then this one tells me I had to pay for photos and videos. And got mad going into a rant about I wanting free photos and stuff. I was clear no photos or videos or chat for pay, only meet. She wasn't too happy when I said my money has more value since I was walking away and she was going crazy about how I needed the photos and stuff.

Reading the forum, I know not to pay before even if it's to eventually meet. I walked from all, but other than the last one, the girls were all very understanding.

When should negotiation start. I'm a month out, I now realize that's too far out to be on Cupid, should it be the week before, days when arranging meets?

For Cupid, any advice on asking for P4 P. A lot of girls say serious relationship, but when I say casual date or looking for a short time girlfriend I get responses, even when I say intimate and naughty. I believe they must only see the USA in the profile much like I only see their photos! A few I have jumped right into what I want and they are cool. They were very clear in their descriptions. I've tried a few different approaches with the same results.

I was wondering, besides El Centro (which is another question that I believe is in the thread which is price of SG in the different areas), what should we expect for prices from Cupid, Tinder, SA, FB. Is there some kind of centralized list.

I don't think I get PM yet, let's hope tomorrow! I need all the help I can get to make this the best trip. I consider myself a very green monger!

[QUOTE=Marxh;2749014]I've been lurking for months but only recently got posting privileges. And then weekend will be one week since I sent transfered Bitcoin and messaged admin. But no sub yet.

I'll be going to making my first trip in November and am excited.

To prep I have added Facebook girls but they have not replied. Not sure to be straightforward or not. Those that do stop replying once I get to asking about P4 P. However I am also on Cupid and that has been interesting. Along the lines of what is too much. I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop CFS, and 1,200 cop for anal, super hot. Got another that quoted in $1500 usd can't remember the time but probably 1 HR, also hot.

Reading the forum, I know not to pay before even if it's to eventually meet. I walked from all, but other than the last one, the girls were all very understanding.

When should negotiation start. I'm a month out, I now realize that's too far out to be on Cupid, should it be the week before, days when arranging meets?

[/QUOTE]I would personally say from my experience that a few weeks is not too far out to start communicating with the chicas. It is too far out to start negotiations though, you can mention money so they know what you are looking for but stall negotiating prices until just before you go or even when you arrive and are setting up an actual cita (appointment) tell them some BS that since I am currently in the USA that I cannot talk business becuase its not legal here. Many of these chicas are going to ghost you anyway - dont take it personally they fly by the seat of their pants and are not good with appointments. Best to wait until you are ready to nail down an appointment then negotiate.

Besides I would talk to a hundred chicas in that time frame you have before you go down there. There are thousands of them literally - pros and what I call semi pros. When I started Cupid had real time IM chat windows and I would have to juggle between the chicas I was talking to in real time. But I started communicating early before my first trip because it can take that long to find chicas that you really like. I was clueless when I started so communicating with a lot of chicas was educational. I like GFE and the ones I've gotten the best GFE from are the chicas I spent time communicating with before hand - I want to qualify this by saying that I know my boundaries - but if they blow you off becuase you are not ready to negotiate they may be too business like to offer up good GFE
When you get your PM set up send me a message and I will give you more tips and some leads.

[QUOTE=Marxh;2749014]When should negotiation start. I'm a month out, I now realize that's too far out to be on Cupid, should it be the week before, days when arranging meets?[/QUOTE]I would say stay offline and wait until you get there and go to in-person places like casas. After paying those chicks 40 K or whatever, you will no longer even entertain a chick saying 600 K no matter how hot you think she is. Get to know the place before blindly committing to online shit.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2748929]On the streets? Dumb questions. This board is the wrong place to ask. They're better educated girls in Bogota. SA maybe starting at $600 COP PPM down and make payments. $10 ? LOL use the glory hole.[/QUOTE]He does have a point. "Quality girl" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. The OP might end up paying 600 k for a girl who he will believe was grossly overpriced, after the date. Another guy might pay 40 k for a girl who outperforms the 600 k girl in every way.

[QUOTE=Tudman;2749009]Hello, I was experiencing with webcam (mostly gals from Colombia and for this thread, a few medellin cam girls). I started in 2021 as covid restrictions hit Canada and with the cold weather at the time I said why not. Kill some time. Ohhh shout out to those like jjbee22 dropping knowledge and experience. Thanks!

Got a few whatsapps (stupid of me as I now know that's a dead end) I always like the challenge to shore "prostitutes". Strippers and such. These girls IMHO are virtual prostitutes not models. I guess industry leaders insisted in models to eliminate any shame as prepago sounds better than prostitute. Or off on another topic how abortion advocates use the word fetus as opposed to baby when discussing abortion. Point is, my definition is that they are prostitutes who work virtually.

Fast forward, when giving tokens as tips or getting private time with them, it's just like a stripper taking to you at your table or in the vip section booth if having a dance or 2. Their goal is to take out as much money as possible. Bear in mind my senior experienced members, maybe this might help a new fish. The success rate of converting a whatsapp into something deeper is slim. Happened to me but go figure, my chicks live in other cities. I do not want to fly them in. Send the money vis western union then get the. Text, ohhh I can't make it etc. As for the medellin chicks, either they don't do meetups, or made a few excuses (nice way of rejecting your date offer) .

I am stubborn at times, and I want to be able to get a webcam chick even for a date (without buying her time if that makes sense). So far I struck out. Granted, I was in medellin for a few days in 2021 and 7 days in 2022. You can't do sh!! If you want to meet up. I have a big strike against me, I do not live there and am there for a few days. Best is to pay the chicks and get on with it.

After talking with a few webcam chicks this is what they usually say like it is scripted. Both independent and girls who work in studios. In no particular order:

1. No hago reales, no hago encuentros (I don't do meetups).

2. Soy soltera. (I am single) yeah right.

3. Compra mi whatsapp why podemos charlar ms (buy my whatsap so we can talk more) we can talk fine on the site dear.

4. Soy bisexual.

Experience costs money. After browsing some profiles I've noticed some posting (showing off in some ways) guys tipping these girls thousands of dollars. From mid tier to the higher tier in looks. Great for the workers! And no jealousy from my end. I asked myself, how the hell can I compete with a guy who is sending a model a few thousand bucks in a tip? I could do it, but I don't have that kind of spare change. Then I remembered talking to a buddy, and how 99.9999% of men who follow Instagram girls or webcam girls have no chance to even go on a date with them. It's those men who do not follow these girls, it's those men who do not join webcam sites are the ones dating these girls. Forget about p4 p. I am talking about forming a bond to gain her trust so you can meet up. It's damn hard to do when competing with big tippers. It's cheaper to even go to la isla then to get her whatsapp which is usually $80 usd plus tips and private time. (Again being outside of medellin hurt my really really really slim chances).

Could you get by on charm with these virtual chicks. Yes, but be ready to be treated like a clown. Her man she is probably banging does not do that. As for bisexuality, something is up as I noticed girls in the sex industry tend to be on the experimentation side, to each their own, is there truth to this? So, they swing both ways, do they say it to get more tips? Or is it true? How can I use this to my advantage? LOL.

My approach to webcam was never p4 p in real life. I always had that slim hope of getting the girl with my charm and a few tips here and there as they are working per se. Ego is a bi! Ch!

To sum up my rant, I choose to not out compete the big tippers as I know the juice is not worth the squeeze. I probably have a better chance to get her just by luck if I run into her in the mall. I would not doubt that the F buddies or boyfriends they have even girlfriends are not hotter or have more to offer than users in the site. Scary for some to meet up, I get it, but quite unwise after trust has been built up to not take a chance on a good catch sort of speak.

My advice, avoid buying the whatsapps or instagrams etc. If you are outside of Colombia or any other region, don't even bother buying private's etc. If you have hopes of one day shoring and dating her. If you are living there, the chances increase most definitely. Heck, only go on it if you live there and are really bored. Use a vpn of course. As I said, it's cheaper in many places for p4 p if that is what you want than getting a webcam chica to agree to meet you. La isla is probably a cheaper and better alternatives.[/QUOTE]1. Participating in webcams is a different thing for different people. Most guys here see no point. Why pay to see a girl on your screen when you can pay less for a girl in your bed? Other than the fantasy aspect, there's no benefit to trying to lay a webcam model.

2. Almost every Colombian webcam model has someone watching everything. They see every private message, they see every tip note. Often, the person watching is the person chatting (and it's usually a guy). The same guy is often the one sending Whatsapp messages or responding to messages on the model's other accounts (Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans). If the girl will meet you for sex it's almost certainly because the guy is getting a cut.

3. The road to success with successful webcam models is the same as with high earning strippers. You can either throw so much money that she can't ignore it, or you need to establish yourself as a safe haven.

For many years I spent a lot of time and money in strip clubs, and got next to nothing in return. My first partial success came after spending a lot of money over several weeks on 1 girl. We met up a few times outside the club and she bought me lunch once. But no sex.

Years later a bored stripper started talking to me. We had mutual interests and eventually became friends. At the time I was still spending too much, with no success. Then my friend started sitting with me, just having normal conversations. Soon, almost every stripper was hanging out at my table if business was slow, and everyone greeted me. I started spending less, but got more access. At first just lunch or a few drinks, then it became dates and sex. All because I was comfortable and safe. I was someone who didn't treat them like strippers.

I used that when I was into webcams. I chatted, made jokes and avoided direct sexual comments. I tipped, not big amounts, but regularly. On a slow night a girl could depend on me to get some money. Keeping a balance between spending and chatting puts you in an elite group. You're not trying to get something for free and you're not trying to buy something, plus you're making webcam fun for the girls (and usually it's incredibly dull).

All of that got me into the friend zone, got me a few lunches with a successful webcam model and eventually got me an offer to be webcam model support in Colombia, a webcam model roommate and webcam model friends. And that cured me of the webcam model fantasy.

[QUOTE=Marxh;2749014]I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop [/QUOTE]That's less than two dollars US so I think maybe you are missing several zeros. Probably three, in which case those prices are extremely high.