Bangkok Reports

I used to frequent Eden Club way back when. Marc was a decent fellow, I remember this one time I chatted with him before a session and hit it off.
When it came time to select girls, the rule was that you picked the first girl, and she'd pick her partner.
This is how they got sessions for older women, because the unwritten rule was that the younger girls had to pick older sisters.
So I picked, and when I started heading to the room, Marc stopped us, and replaced the older lady with a young hottie.

That was a GREAT session.

Anyway, let's say a prayer and wish a pleasant afterlife for him. Rest in Pussy.

Maybe now that the pandemic is over, Devils Den will be revived. I liked that place as well!

[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2709199]Holy crap. This is really sad. Marc was a good guy, nice, and operated a really interesting spot.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2304654/two-dead-one-wounded-in-shooting-at-bangkok-cold-cuts-company
Guessing we'll never seen a spot like his again in Bangkok, maybe nowhere if Devil's Den in Pattaya is gone. Sad for Marc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kukooo;2926363]I usually pick 1-2 girls from Massagerepublic during my 30 day trip every year.

Are they expensive? Definitely yes, also I have paid 5000 THB plus at MITU and Soapy parlors.

Am I exploring pricier circuit? Not everyday but occasionally yes. I have met girls between 2500 THB and 6000 THB, never beyond that.

I have got better experiences, A+ women and good number of repeats with some lovely women. Thermae is a hit or miss place, mostly a miss.

I do not recommend online choices though for every ding, once in a week or while is sensible and a different experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kukooo;2925993]I was at thermae last October / November, picked women many a times, Highest I paid at that time was 3000 THB for a hot chick 8/10, others were mostly quoting 2500 THB and I tipped them additional 200 if their behavior and service was good through out.[/QUOTE]What was it mostly a miss or was service good throughout? If you're going to contradict yourself, try to let some pages get in between the post.

[QUOTE=Tommylove;2926378]I used to frequent Eden Club way back when. Marc was a decent fellow, I remember this one time I chatted with him before a session and hit it off.
When it came time to select girls, the rule was that you picked the first girl, and she'd pick her partner.
This is how they got sessions for older women, because the unwritten rule was that the younger girls had to pick older sisters.
So I picked, and when I started heading to the room, Marc stopped us, and replaced the older lady with a young hottie.

That was a GREAT session.

Anyway, let's say a prayer and wish a pleasant afterlife for him. Rest in Pussy.

Maybe now that the pandemic is over, Devils Den will be revived. I liked that place as well![/QUOTE]That man Marc was sick in the head, deranged and mentally unstable. He wanted to kill his girlfriend, another Frenchman and then himself in a murder-suicide plot. His suicide note detailed everything. His girlfriend was killed and then he got killed by the other Frenchman in a struggle over the gun. You have to be a serious phycho lunatic to try to carry out something like that and then want to killed yourself in the end. He was not a good person at all. Pure evil.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2926458]What was it mostly a miss or was service good throughout? If you're going to contradict yourself, try to let some pages get in between the post.[/QUOTE]The major miss with Thermae girls was the attitude, they know they look good, hence always in a rush to get the work done and rush to cafe for another customer. In one word, "Everything feels rushed".

Bath-Foreplay-Act-pack up.

This is exactly my miss and nothing else, not that somebody was rude or did not agree to things.

However with the massagerepublic pickups, purely my personal experience -- booked them in the evenings and they really didn't do that as far I have seen. Ladies went to the extent that they gave me a nice massage before and after, those little things are what I would call "Nice".

BTW -- Whatever Thermae reports I have posted are only good apples, I didn't report on bad experiences.

[QUOTE=Kukooo;2926556]The major miss with Thermae girls was the attitude, they know they look good, hence always in a rush to get the work done and rush to cafe for another customer. In one word, "Everything feels rushed".

Bath-Foreplay-Act-pack up.

This is exactly my miss and nothing else, not that somebody was rude or did not agree to things.

However with the massagerepublic pickups, purely my personal experience -- booked them in the evenings and they really didn't do that as far I have seen. Ladies went to the extent that they gave me a nice massage before and after, those little things are what I would call "Nice".

BTW -- Whatever Thermae reports I have posted are only good apples, I didn't report on bad experiences.[/QUOTE]I agree with you.

Girls from MR or Smooci are much better from GFE POV.

Ofc you have to pay almost double to them, but some of them are worth it for some days; if money is not an issue for you.

Also in my exp they have been more non-mechanical and non-rushy. Thermae girls sometimes don't properly know how to ride or are mechanical, maybe due to their nature of being in this business for part-time only.

[QUOTE=TiredOf;2926656]I agree with you.

Girls from MR or Smooci are much better from GFE POV.

Ofc you have to pay almost double to them, but some of them are worth it for some days; if money is not an issue for you.

Also in my exp they have been more non-mechanical and non-rushy. Thermae girls sometimes don't properly know how to ride or are mechanical, maybe due to their nature of being in this business for part-time only.[/QUOTE]ST for Thermae girls is 3 k for one hour, 5 k for 2 hours.

Most of them will complain about pain after 15 minutes after taking all the money upfront and make life hell for you in the room.

I had 3 experiences in Thermae, and each time it got worse.

Until 2022, you could pay 3 k for 2 hours and some of my friends got girls for just 4 k for the whole night.

These days, they kinda have an understanding. Even they agree to everything in the club, they won't do much apart from opening legs for penetrations in the room.

I found picking up girls from Soicowboy to be worth it. Last time, I got a young one for 3 k for LT plus 1 k bar fine and additional 500 baht for drinks.

Destination: Bangkok- Sukhumvit, Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza.

Women: You can get some very attractive women here in the gogos. I am impressed, as always you must weed through the girls to find the ones who you consider high level. I am used to Latin America so it is a bit disappointing there isn't as much curvy girls, but the talent is great none the less. The beer bar girls are cool but honestly, I have found them to be sub-par, I put them in the 5-6 range with maybe some 7's running around. The young beautiful fit and sexy girls are in the gogos. I haven't had time to hit any night clubs yet so I cannot comment there. For the most part, the attitudes have been very good, but I did encounter 2 girls who gave me the look and attitude like "you aren't shit get the fuck away from me". I roll low key and I am respectful so it was strange to get that from some of the girls, but 95% of them are grabbing at you and calling you over when you walk through cowboy or by the bars in Nana so its all good. I would say the full on baby love making GFE rate is over 50%, first girl I grabbed was a stunner but she gave me bad service with covered blow job and little kissing, so I very politely told her I was going to sleep so I could go back out and get what I wanted. The standard rate seems to be $3000 baht for ST and a $1000 baht bar fine, so 4000 total and I have been in splurge mode so I haven't negotiated that price. I am buckling down now and I am going to start seeing how low I can get them. I did have some girls in the bar tell me 5000 for ST, and I think that means they are probably tired from being fucked already or they just really don't want to go with you. The massages have been amazing, don't go to a massage place for sex, just pay the 500 baht fee and throw them a 1000 baht for a hand job at the end, but I have been loving the massages. Colombia and Mexico cannot fuck with the massage game of Thailand. Its a huge plus.

*So here is my advice guys should really read that I didn't consider before coming*.

These girls in the gogos are so good at flirting and pushing your buttons. I am hardened as fuck in the monger game and this one girl gave me little kid butterflies like I was a school boy again. I am glad I have done my research and I know the game because it would be so easy for a newbie to fall for these girls tricks. They really know what the fuck they are doing. In all my travels these girls can really flirt and pull your strings and get you going. Be careful guys and know this before going in if its your first time.

Travel: Travel from USA is fucking brutal. I didn't realize how bad it actually is. You will be jet lagged for days. I would say it takes close to a week to really get settled in fully from the time difference. Next time I travel, I am going to book flights over two days so I can sleep in a hotel one night and not blast straight through. It was extremely unpleasant traveling 30 hours straight on planes and in airports. BTW one way flight was $800 USD.

Food and Hotels: They are good and I am happy. I thought food would be a little cheaper but its not bad at all. Short TIME hotels in Bangkok are $500 baht to $300 baht for 1 hour ST. I really wish the gogos had rooms in the actual place though instead of having to take the girls out and patrol past all the bars and girls you want to fuck later haha. The gym I have been going to is very good and they seem to be top notch.

Overall I really like Bangkok and I can confirm it is still the premier monger Destination in the world. The only country I have not mongered in is Brazil, but I think Thailand would be hard to beat. That being said, if you are coming from the USA, unless you have 3 FULL WEEKENDS to party in Thailand, I would still plan a shorter trip to any major destination in Latin America. The Travel is just too fucking brutal.

[QUOTE=Zam007;2926698]ST for Thermae girls is 3 k for one hour, 5 k for 2 hours.

Most of them will complain about pain after 15 minutes after taking all the money upfront and make life hell for you in the room.

I had 3 experiences in Thermae, and each time it got worse.

Until 2022, you could pay 3 k for 2 hours and some of my friends got girls for just 4 k for the whole night.

These days, they kinda have an understanding. Even they agree to everything in the club, they won't do much apart from opening legs for penetrations in the room.

I found picking up girls from Soicowboy to be worth it. Last time, I got a young one for 3 k for LT plus 1 k bar fine and additional 500 baht for drinks.[/QUOTE]Yes exactly, although I didn't have all bad experiences.

If you compare now just with money proposition, then their rate is same as of Smooci premium 1 HR basic girls, but usually those who are charging 7 k for 2 hrs, I had better time with them. But again, at the cost of extra money, which I don't mind for some days.

Fiwfans and TF are best in this area. But only from money's POV. I had bad experience with Fiwfans service-wise though + I don't really like to visit incall, so double negative for me.

Keeping only service in mind, atleast for me, High end Smooci girls and MR on general, were the best. In massage parlours also, some girls which are very good and even better than the former with lesser price, so I just ask their number after service.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2926737]Travel: Travel from USA is fucking brutal. I didn't realize how bad it actually is. You will be jet lagged for days. I would say it takes close to a week to really get settled in fully from the time difference. Next time I travel, I am going to book flights over two days so I can sleep in a hotel one night and not blast straight through. It was extremely unpleasant traveling 30 hours straight on planes and in airports. BTW one way flight was $800 USD.[/QUOTE]I have at least 30 trips in an out to Thailand from the USA and Europe and here is the best advice I can give travelers to the USA based on present conditions. Plus my rule is I try never to do the whole trip in one leg.

Going in to Thailand from the east coast, your best bet is to fly to LA, lay over and then go to BKK the next day. Avoid Singapore Air, its 17 hours in the air and then fast changes in a huge airport. I prefer Japan (11 hours plus 5) or Tapei (12 plus 6) or Seoul (13 plus 4), air times are approximate. The airports in Japan and Korea are better than Taipei. If you want to be a cheap charlie and have no bags and are young and healthy by all means do the 17 hour Singapore flight, its around $400. There is a cheap flight on Philippines Air, but only masochists and Filipinas deal with the Manila airport. My upcoming trip in August (I'm on the East coast of USA) will be direct in to Phnom Penh so unless I chose to layover in Bangkok, I'm going out of LA.

If you live West of the Mississippi, head to LA.

My complication is that when I go into Thailand, I generally have 55 pounds of cologne, mash, peanuts, glass, clothes that fit, etc. Plus I have to come in from a satellite airport. Plus I have to go on to Siem Reap. So I tend to avoid the alternate way in, which would be NYC-Frankfurt-Bkk. 8 hours from NYC to FRA, layover in Frankfurt, 11 hours daily to BKK on Thai air. Layovers in Frankfurt tend to be expensive, especially if you know about FKKs.

A trip entails careful planning: Thus, on a recent trip, no bag, I landed in Frankfurt at 7 am, cleared Imm by 8, got on the Darmstadt Airbus (stop number 14), got into Darmstadt at 9:30 ish, chilled with some coffee, went over to FKK sharks where I stayed rolling in Romanian pussy till 4 am, then cabbed to the bus stop and smoked weed by myself for an hour till the bus came to pick me up to the airport. That's a $1000 dollar layover though depending on your virility. On another trip out of Bangkok, I used the train and stayed in Darmstadt (Inter City and Dormero Hotels are nice) instead of being an animal all night in an FKK.

Its all a question of how you like to travel. I am too old to sleep in airports or enter an airport and come out of a different one 30 hours later. I view travel in terms of days, one day to get here and one day to get there.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2926737]Destination: Bangkok- Sukhumvit, Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza.

Women: You can get some very attractive women here in the gogos. I am impressed, as always you must weed through the girls to find the ones who you consider high level. I am used to Latin America so it is a bit disappointing there isn't as much curvy girls, but the talent is great none the less. The beer bar girls are cool but honestly, I have found them to be sub-par, I put them in the 5-6 range with maybe some 7's running around. The young beautiful fit and sexy girls are in the gogos. I haven't had time to hit any night clubs yet so I cannot comment there. For the most part, the attitudes have been very good, but I did encounter 2 girls who gave me the look and attitude like "you aren't shit get the fuck away from me". I roll low key and I am respectful so it was strange to get that from some of the girls, but 95% of them are grabbing at you and calling you over when you walk through cowboy or by the bars in Nana so its all good. I would say the full on baby love making GFE rate is over 50%, first girl I grabbed was a stunner but she gave me bad service with covered blow job and little kissing, so I very politely told her I was going to sleep so I could go back out and get what I wanted. The standard rate seems to be $3000 baht for ST and a $1000 baht bar fine, so 4000 total and I have been in splurge mode so I haven't negotiated that price. I am buckling down now and I am going to start seeing how low I can get them. I did have some girls in the bar tell me 5000 for ST, and I think that means they are probably tired from being fucked already or they just really don't want to go with you. The massages have been amazing, don't go to a massage place for sex, just pay the 500 baht fee and throw them a 1000 baht for a hand job at the end, but I have been loving the massages. Colombia and Mexico cannot fuck with the massage game of Thailand. Its a huge plus.

*So here is my advice guys should really read that I didn't consider before coming*.

These girls in the gogos are so good at flirting and pushing your buttons. I am hardened as fuck in the monger game and this one girl gave me little kid butterflies like I was a school boy again. I am glad I have done my research and I know the game because it would be so easy for a newbie to fall for these girls tricks. They really know what the fuck they are doing. In all my travels these girls can really flirt and pull your strings and get you going. Be careful guys and know this before going in if its your first time.

Travel: Travel from USA is fucking brutal. I didn't realize how bad it actually is. You will be jet lagged for days. I would say it takes close to a week to really get settled in fully from the time difference. Next time I travel, I am going to book flights over two days so I can sleep in a hotel one night and not blast straight through. It was extremely unpleasant traveling 30 hours straight on planes and in airports. BTW one way flight was $800 USD.

Food and Hotels: They are good and I am happy. I thought food would be a little cheaper but its not bad at all. Short TIME hotels in Bangkok are $500 baht to $300 baht for 1 hour ST. I really wish the gogos had rooms in the actual place though instead of having to take the girls out and patrol past all the bars and girls you want to fuck later haha. The gym I have been going to is very good and they seem to be top notch.

Overall I really like Bangkok and I can confirm it is still the premier monger Destination in the world. The only country I have not mongered in is Brazil, but I think Thailand would be hard to beat. That being said, if you are coming from the USA, unless you have 3 FULL WEEKENDS to party in Thailand, I would still plan a shorter trip to any major destination in Latin America. The Travel is just too fucking brutal.[/QUOTE]Great report and I think spot on on most everything. A couple tips from a guy who has done Europe, AP, and South America. First you are totally right on the flight times. Best thing to do it break it up with Europe in the middle. Book one round trip. To London, Zurich, Madrid, or Frankfurt. And book a second round trip from that city to Bangkok. Often this will come out cheaper beleive it or not but it also helps fix the mega travel problem. Choose your city based off fares and what type of fucking you like as follows:

London Diva Escorts. Amazing incall with primarily Romanian girls and recently a bunch of Brazilians. Top notch girls and experience. But pretty much $400/ hour. Def have to try it some time. Unlike the US the I call is her actual apartment. Fucking in her bed is just something special. LOL.

Frankfurt Sharks and Oase FKK. Every man must do FKK. Tons of naked women. Buffet. Sauna. Fuck any girl you like right there on site. Good format to fuck a few. I did two one night and three the next recently. $200/ HR.

Zurich Globe FKK. Same as Frankfurt butter better quality, particularly for service. No fat chicks. Top service. You can also get BBBJ in public there (illegal in Germany). Nothing like throwing open your towel and having s girl go down on you while you survey the club and drink your Heineken. $300/ HR.

Madrid Vive. This is the closest thing in Europe to Brasil's Boates. Fully clothed but sexy women in a bar format. 90% Latinas. Fuck on site. $220/ HR.

I would highly recommend breaking a trip into two pieces like this.

Second, I'm going to have to say until you have done Brazil you have not lived. Esp if you like Latinas. The best club in the world no debate is Scandallo in So Paulo. 100-200 girls all fit and pretty. Luxe nightclub (like nicest you have ever been to). And Brazilian girls are simply the best. Love to kiss and BJ. Like there is no "kissing is extra". Brazilian girls like literally can't have sex without kissing. Plus no rush. You can hang and make out and chat and drink with a girl for an hour before you go to the room. Totally not at all like FKK.

Word of caution do Brasil last because you will be spoiled and it's all downhill from there. I still love Thailand and FKK but they are number 2 and 3 on my list respectively after Brasil.

PS side benefit is even though its like a ten hour flight its only two hours ahead of eastern so no major jet lag.

All of the previous reports tend to show how YMMV the whole scene is. For example, I would never waste my time on an Escort or Fiw Fans or TF simply because I want to pick out what I am spending my money on in the flesh. I don't do massage parlours as I prefer my girls a bit more untouched. I don't do Soi Cowboy, too many tourists and too much drama.

I get all I need out of Thermae and Nana. At prices cheaper than that referenced here, but that's the beauty of being an old timer.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2926805]All of the previous reports tend to show how YMMV the whole scene is. For example, I would never waste my time on an Escort or Fiw Fans or TF simply because I want to pick out what I am spending my money on in the flesh. I don't do massage parlours as I prefer my girls a bit more untouched. I don't do Soi Cowboy, too many tourists and too much drama.

I get all I need out of Thermae and Nana. At prices cheaper than that referenced here, but that's the beauty of being an old timer.[/QUOTE]Your dick, your money, your choice!

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2926801]I have at least 30 trips in an out to Thailand from the USA and Europe and here is the best advice I can give travelers to the USA based on present conditions. Plus my rule is I try never to do the whole trip in one leg.

Going in to Thailand from the east coast, your best bet is to fly to LA, lay over and then go to BKK the next day. Avoid Singapore Air, its 17 hours in the air and then fast changes in a huge airport. I prefer Japan (11 hours plus 5) or Tapei (12 plus 6) or Seoul (13 plus 4), air times are approximate. The airports in Japan and Korea are better than Taipei. If you want to be a cheap charlie and have no bags and are young and healthy by all means do the 17 hour Singapore flight, its around $400. There is a cheap flight on Philippines Air, but only masochists and Filipinas deal with the Manila airport. My upcoming trip in August (I'm on the East coast of USA) will be direct in to Phnom Penh so unless I chose to layover in Bangkok, I'm going out of LA.

If you live West of the Mississippi, head to LA.

My complication is that when I go into Thailand, I generally have 55 pounds of cologne, mash, peanuts, glass, clothes that fit, etc. Plus I have to come in from a satellite airport. Plus I have to go on to Siem Reap. So I tend to avoid the alternate way in, which would be NYC-Frankfurt-Bkk. 8 hours from NYC to FRA, layover in Frankfurt, 11 hours daily to BKK on Thai air. Layovers in Frankfurt tend to be expensive, especially if you know about FKKs.

A trip entails careful planning: Thus, on a recent trip, no bag, I landed in Frankfurt at 7 am, cleared Imm by 8, got on the Darmstadt Airbus (stop number 14), got into Darmstadt at 9:30 ish, chilled with some coffee, went over to FKK sharks where I stayed rolling in Romanian pussy till 4 am, then cabbed to the bus stop and smoked weed by myself for an hour till the bus came to pick me up to the airport. That's a $1000 dollar layover though depending on your virility. On another trip out of Bangkok, I used the train and stayed in Darmstadt (Inter City and Dormero Hotels are nice) instead of being an animal all night in an FKK.

Its all a question of how you like to travel. I am too old to sleep in airports or enter an airport and come out of a different one 30 hours later. I view travel in terms of days, one day to get here and one day to get there.[/QUOTE]I go to Thailand from the west coast of the US and it takes me three flights. I usually fly from LAX or SFO to Tokyo with an American airline and then connect through Tokyo on Thai Air.

I have split up by staying in Tokyo and also done direct. Either way works for me. Doesn't hurt to stay a few days in a beautiful place like Japan.

USD: THB at 37, best rate in years. Bad news is that the rates seem to be $USD 80 for a session and Bangkok is relatively expensive, noisy and polluted. GFE and anal not readily on the table, and its a minimum of 20 hours from the west coast, add another 6 for the east and pretty horrible time zone dislocation. Weed is legal, but that's best left the stoners. The beaches are polluted and insipid. It's not what is was in the 1990's and early noughties.

Brazil is USD: BRL 5. 65 which is also relatively high, and a low-mid quality session is $USD 17.70 (100 BRL) and a mind blowing, 1 hour threesome about $USD 60-70. GFE, DFK and anal tend to be automatically on offer. Weed can be found fairly easily if you want to be a stoner. Great beaches in several places, especially if you get out of Rio (and Rio is pretty good if you head south west).

It is said that good quality massage cannot be found in Brazil. I disagree. That's inexperienced tourist talk. You just have to shop around, and if you are serious, hit the physiotherapy angle and / or get a male for a sports massage but make it clear "no extras".

With flights direct from NYC, DC area, Atlanta and Miami or Dallas, Brazil is a no brainer.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2926737]Travel: Travel from USA is fucking brutal. I didn't realize how bad it actually is. You will be jet lagged for days. I would say it takes close to a week to really get settled in fully from the time difference. Next time I travel, I am going to book flights over two days so I can sleep in a hotel one night and not blast straight through. It was extremely unpleasant traveling 30 hours straight on planes and in airports. BTW one way flight was $800 USD.
[/QUOTE]Good report, thanks for contributing.

The trip is brutal, but I suggest a different imperfect solution to jetlag. I try to schedule short layover flights that arrive BKK in the afternoon and then I use the following routine: check in hotel, get laid, eat dinner, go to bed between about 7-10 PM, and sleep as long as possible. That usually gets me well rested and up in time for the hotel breakfast. Jetlag is about 80% resolved only 20 hours after arrival and is 95% resolved about 44 hours after arrival.

The zinger is flight prices. I'll take less than ideal flight schedule to save a good chunk of money.