Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2749634]The flake factor is something I learned to eliminate. I make it clear to potential companions there is a 15-minute grace period from the established meeting time, after which there will be no meeting. In the rare cases where I don't have a plan be at the ready, I'm willing to accept postponement requests if they come before the end of the grace period. Those instances are rare. By the time the grace period is up, I normally move on. I remember people telling me I would become more patient as I age. That has not so far turned out to be true. We all have a limited amount of time to enjoy our lives. God forbid but sometimes it is less time than expected. This is why I refuse to fritter any of that time away waiting, hoping, and wondering if somebody is going to fulfill their time commitment. I take the mystery out of it. There are so many options in Medellin between mileroticos, Centro, casas, and personal contacts it just makes no sense to me to be up in the air over the whims of some girl.[/QUOTE]It is true that girls will be late or have excuses for not showing up on time and will show up much later. It is part of the game if you decide to use Facebook for mongering. If you are only giving girls a 15 minute grace period, you are going to do a lot of cancelling and you probably should not use Facebook to look for girls. It is also part of the culture in Colombia where time is more easy going. Traffic is also an issue. I would agree that if you are not tolerant of girls being late, you should be seeing streetwalkers, casas and nightclub girls instead. You don't have to put with it if you don't want. FB girls generally will not show up on time. It does take a lot of patience if you want to play the FB game but you don't have to play on FB, there are other options.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2749750]In general Saturday night is date night where chicas go out with their real boyfriends and Sundays are family day.[/QUOTE]I've been invited and participated in many Saturday / Sunday family events, especially when a holiday falls on a Monday, which happens a lot out here. This past summer there was literally 3 consecutive weeks with Mondays being a holiday in each of them. All I can say the barrio block parties are out of this world. Come with a fresh liver because guaro and ron going to be poured endlessly out of carton containers. Grandmas and grandpas would go shot for shot with me goddamn, I loved it! They would say better treat my granddaughter right hehe. Most of the time, the families know their daughter / granddaughter are in the prepago business because they know a day job won't cut it. Other times, the girl would specifically tell me to be discreet and that their families don't know what they do on the side. Either way, I'm putting it in hehe. Respecting and appreciating their culture and speaking the language goes a long way in the barrios, and having a strong liver definitely helps. And nothing beats homemade sancocho and frijoles!

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2749752]It is true that girls will be late or have excuses for not showing up on time and will show up much later. It is part of the game if you decide to use Facebook for mongering. If you are only giving girls a 15 minute grace period, you are going to do a lot of cancelling and you probably should not use Facebook to look for girls. It is also part of the culture in Colombia where time is more easy going. Traffic is also an issue. I would agree that if you are not tolerant of girls being late, you should be seeing streetwalkers, casas and nightclub girls instead. You don't have to put with it if you don't want. FB girls generally will not show up on time. It does take a lot of patience if you want to play the FB game but you don't have to play on FB, there are other options.[/QUOTE]The "on time" issue is not just working girls. Had a long class discussion with a spanish teacher from Colombia about this. In social situations it is normal for people to show up 1 or 2 hours late, in fact not very cool to actually show up on time. It is a "thing" for informal social get togethers. If someone says I'm having a few people over at 6 for drinks. No one will show up until 7:30 at the earliest. Just being cool.

Don't know if this is part of the working girl mentality, but if they are viewing their dates as social events then that is very possible. They see these sorts of appointments as social, not business or like a medical appointment.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2748934]From my perspective, it is more about cost and time. If El Centro is my main playground, I will chat with the girl but I won't negotiate too much except cost. I can fuck 7 girls in El Centro for the cost of getting an outcall to my place. I can fuck at least 20 girls in El Centro for what I paid for one in Sao Paulo. I will try my luck in the room and keep the base cost low in El Centro. 😂 That is what you observe GB is doing thus far so we are not that different. The reason I won't do the same with outcall simply because the cost is high. In Sao Paulo, I won't even take the girl is she does not DFK when negotiating. The reason is the same, cost is very high. LOL[/QUOTE]I found more easily DFK in El Centro than calling some prepago. Prepago in Medellin is too random. It's very unlikely there is a girl behind the number. Usually there is a guy who answers for many girls. El Centro worked better for me in Medellin. And then Facebook of course. But I didn't have many contacts when I was there. I remember I brought home two girls I met in El Centro for a threesome, and one even rimmed my ass. Beautiful face, both young, but both with saggy tits, because they had kids. Which was a huge turn off for me. I couldn't know till I saw them naked.

In Sao Paulo is hard to find hot girls for cheap, but I met a few. The same girls you meet at Scandallo take less than half the money if you manage to meet them in a different context. With one in particular, which I fucked multiple times, I had two different threesome. The first was great because the other girl was really into it, the second one was not, the other girl was a joke. I definitely didn't pay 20 times the price I would have paid en El Centro (for the same time), but it was very hard to find a cheap hot girl. I also had one awful experience with a girl that I called to my place. We agreed for GFE but then she didn't want to kiss. This happened at least 3 times in Sao Paulo. So I said: look, you can go. She asked me money and I refused. The situation escalated till she threatened me with a taser. No need to say she went home without a single real. Also in Brazil I manage to fuck for free, in multiple occasions, one hot girl I met on Tinder. That didn't happen in Colombia. I guess that happened because I have been in Sao Paulo for a very long time. I don't think I could have scored the price I did if I was there for just two weeks. I spent there almost 5 months.

I know a few. I've never approached a girl on a camsite. Rather, I find them on facebook and now through an amiga. It's a common job so its not that hard. It's more likely you'll find women who dabble or do it occasionally than high level pros (though the first one I met does it full time and is relatively successful). Anyway, you have a much higher chance of charming her on normal social media than via a camsite. Just talk to them, meet them and also be aware of their photos on social media as they can clue you in to her job. One of my amigas have clothed cam-style photos on her facebook profile.

[QUOTE=Tudman;2749009]Hello, I was experiencing with webcam (mostly gals from Colombia and for this thread, a few medellin cam girls). I started in 2021 as covid restrictions hit Canada and with the cold weather at the time I said why not. Kill some time. Ohhh shout out to those like jjbee22 dropping knowledge and experience. Thanks!. [/QUOTE]

I agree, I don't consider the facebook scene worth the amount of my time it would consume. It's in the same category as waiting at a carousel in an airport baggage claim area. I don't do that either. If there were any relative benefit I would maybe deal with it from time to time.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2749752]It is true that girls will be late or have excuses for not showing up on time and will show up much later. It is part of the game if you decide to use Facebook for mongering. If you are only giving girls a 15 minute grace period, you are going to do a lot of cancelling and you probably should not use Facebook to look for girls. It is also part of the culture in Colombia where time is more easy going. Traffic is also an issue. I would agree that if you are not tolerant of girls being late, you should be seeing streetwalkers, casas and nightclub girls instead. You don't have to put with it if you don't want. FB girls generally will not show up on time. It does take a lot of patience if you want to play the FB game but you don't have to play on FB, there are other options.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2749805]The "on time" issue is not just working girls. Had a long class discussion with a spanish teacher from Colombia about this. In social situations it is normal for people to show up 1 or 2 hours late, in fact not very cool to actually show up on time. It is a "thing" for informal social get togethers. If someone says I'm having a few people over at 6 for drinks. No one will show up until 7:30 at the earliest. Just being cool.

Don't know if this is part of the working girl mentality, but if they are viewing their dates as social events then that is very possible. They see these sorts of appointments as social, not business or like a medical appointment.[/QUOTE]This "open widow of time" for arrival might be true for parties that last through an evening, as it often is in many cultures including the US. But this claim that it's "cultural" for Latin American women to show up for appointments an hour or two late is a myth that is slow to die in forums like this as it goes full circle every month or two. It's very easy to disprove with a simple experiment, leave the girl waiting past the appointed time and watch your phone blow up with frantic messages within 60 seconds. LOL No it's only "Colombia time" when it's your time wasted, but as someone else noted traffic can be a issue so some leeway of about 30 minutes is reasonable.

P.S. Last trip for whatever reason I had several show up early, and a few when I wasn't ready yet. They had to wait.

Finally popped my facebook cherry today when I called Montoya Paulina. I had been messaging her for a couple of days (she initiated contact) and told her to come at around 9:30. She ends up arriving at around 10:45 even after continuous communication. She is the girl in the facebook profile and the pictures are relatively accurate for her body. Her face seems to have been touched up or perhaps is in a better lighting in her profile pictures but isn't as good. Decent bolt on tits but I can still see the scars from when she got them and a very nice ass. She is rather fit. I show her in and we sit for a short while before she asks to take a shower. She asks to go to the bedroom where she does an ok BBBJ and I give her some oral as well as suck her tits and start giving her some kisses. Her kisses are rather weak. There was some tongue but no passion in it at all. We fucked in a couple of positions (doggystyle is good with her since her ass is quite nice and she looks back so you can see her face while you are fucking her. I cum inside the condom and we talk for about 2 minutes before she goes to take a shower. She calls her ride, I give her the standard FB girl rate and gives me a kiss goodbye. Overall, I don't think I would repeat with her since I didn't feel any chemistry between us. She seemed rather tired and mentioned that she has work a 8 in the morning. She has a 10 years old daughter (I think the chica is around 27) and works in a clothing store in Poblado so I think she is a semi-pro. I think she also has a husband / boyfriend who is in on this since she was receiving a call from "amor" while in the shower and left in the same car that dropped her off. I think she probably makes pretty good money though since she had one of the newer iphone models.

A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:

Next week=Never.

Tomorrow=Ask me a couple hours before you want me.

One hour=2-3 hours.

30 minutes=1. 5 hours.

10 minutes= 30 minutes.

Could someone fill me in on the weather there. Coming first week of November. I know it's usually 60 to about 70 degrees but what about the rain.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2748896]On my first trip to Medellin, I was happy with the outcome of meeting girls from Facebook. Yes, there were girls who chatted with me and said they would meet me but did not meet me. There were also girls who confirmed that they would meet me and then ghosted me. But it was far less than my online dating experience in the Philippines. On Facebook, girls usually had a fair number of pictures and most looked like their pictures when they showed up. Most of the girls that I saw were semi-pros or at least girls who denied that they were escorts but were open to pay for play when they need money. Generally I offered 200 to 250 mil for 2 hours. Sometimes transport was included, most times it was extra and I paid the taxi when they arrived. None of the girls were business like and all performances were good to great. Most of the girls were in the 18-21 age range with ID verification at the hotel. I always looked at the ID myself before they entered the hotel and no one lied about their age.

I did not take any girls outside of FB on my first trip. Streetwalkers and casa girls will be on my agenda on a future trip. Yes, it is cheaper in El Centro but I was happy with my experiences with the FB girls coming to my hotel room.

I enjoyed my first visit to Medellin and I will return. I stayed in the Poblado region and I felt safe in the neighborhood. There are places that are more dangerous. I recommend staying in Poblado for newbies.[/QUOTE]Where are you guys finding girls on FB. Is there some group? Do you just search for girls from the city? Any details on the process would be appreciated. I like your style and would like to try it out.

[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2749925]Could someone fill me in on the weather there. Coming first week of November. I know it's usually 60 to about 70 degrees but what about the rain.[/QUOTE]This year has had an unseasonable amount of rain. I would definitely bring a light rain jacket and / or a small umbrella. 60 degrees early in the morning or late at night is very comfortable for me but if that is cold to you. You might bring a light jacket or some long sleeve hoodies.

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2749872]

A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:

Next week=Never.

Tomorrow=Ask me a couple hours before you want me.

One hour=2-3 hours.

30 minutes=1. 5 hours.

10 minutes= 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]This gets discussed periodically. There is the carrot or the stick approach.

Carrot approach: Tell her that if she arrives within 30 minutes of the appointed time she gets a 20 mil propina but if she is 31 minutes late, no propina. (Make it higher if that matters that much to you).

Stick approach: Tell her if she is 30 minutes late the date is cancelled and you will make other plans.

Some girls really have no sense of time, others are semi-pros and don't take cabs that much and have no sense of judging the traffic especially around morning or late afternoons sprawls.

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2749872]

A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:

Next week=Never.

Tomorrow=Ask me a couple hours before you want me.

One hour=2-3 hours.

30 minutes=1. 5 hours.

10 minutes= 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Ooops I left out the all American classic which is: Deception. Make your date for 3:00 pm when you really want to start at 4:00 pm.

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2749872]...A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:...[/QUOTE]For me, the appointment time for them is the time to start preparing or when they leave their home to come to my place.

Most of these girls do this line of work for a reason. Like your previous report, the agency's girl usually will be on time when they are managed.

I am not sure the generalization is true about the lateness. My guess is the more educated ones with a professional jobs will be more likely to be on time.

I have a date with this girl in Brzail in her club at 5 PM. She was on time. It took one hour to get to the club, and about another hour to get ready in the club. She drew a circle around her face when I asked what were you doing downstairs so long. LOL.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2749836]This "open widow of time" for arrival might be true for parties that last through an evening, as it often is in many cultures including the US. But this claim that it's "cultural" for Latin American women to show up for appointments an hour or two late is a myth that is slow to die in forums like this as it goes full circle every month or two. It's very easy to disprove with a simple experiment, leave the girl waiting past the appointed time and watch your phone blow up with frantic messages within 60 seconds. LOL No it's only "Colombia time" when it's your time wasted, but as someone else noted traffic can be a issue so some leeway of about 30 minutes is reasonable.

P.S. Last trip for whatever reason I had several show up early, and a few when I wasn't ready yet. They had to wait.[/QUOTE]Most of these women deal with gringos so they know that time can be an issue. Hence your phone blowing up. But I do think that the culture there, especially for social events, is more relaxed about time than most of us are used to. Whatever the reason, it is what it is, and if we are in this game, we need to reach a level of comfort unique to each of us. I think it makes for better experience to not get too worked up about it, but go with the flow and have ways to enjoy the time, even during waiting time. I just think the idea of "teaching them a lesson" or trying to change their behavior is a losing battle in the short term. But, to repeat, I think a lot of them are aware that it is a bigger issue with gringos. So over time the more experienced ones may get better at it. So if she shows up on time or early, a good chance she is well experienced with gringos.