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[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2750555]I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. She propositioned a trio and I liked the girl she sent pictures of so we agreed. She initially asked for 400 k each but I negotiated down to 600 k including taxi, OWO, kisses with tongue, and for the girls to have sex with each other. I didn't trust the girls in my apartment so told them to go to a motel near me. We went to the love motel but the younger girl (Mariana Sosa in FB) did not have a cedula on her so they didn't let her in. The girl had a picture of her cedula but the motel didn't accept that. This was strike 1 and I should have followed my better judgement and broke it off there. I decided that the girls look ok and that I can keep an eye on them so I brought them to my apartment. Inside the girls wanted to rush to take a shower and go to the bedroom. This was strike 2 and I again should have sent them away. Once they washed up, Jenni tried to get wet using a vibrator while I tried to kiss both of them. They gave peaks but nothing more. I could smell that Jenni was high. She made up some BS excuse about not being willing to do OWO on me and the Mariana gave me CBJ. Jenni then rode me while Mariana sucked my nipple. I ended up coming like this since I love getting my nipple sucked and I was holding in two days of leche. Jenni said we are done since I came and I told them that it isn't time yet so to give me a massage. She said they would after a shower. They take a shower and give me perhaps the worst massage of my life and I have gotten some pretty shitty massages. After a couple of minutes I just want them to leave. I give her 500 k and say that this is for the whole mess. She refuses and wants the extra 100 k. At this point I just fucking hope I never have to see them again and give them the 100 k and kick them the fuck out. It was an expensive lesson learned and I hope to never deal with this again. The only positive is that I didn't end up paying for the motel so I saved 100 k there. I ended up blocking her on Whatsapp and FB afterwards. She has 2. 8 k friends so chances are that someone here may have the misfortune of dealing with her and hopefully can avoid it. Fuck, I should have just gone to centro and I would have had a better experience for a much lower price. The girls are young (22 and 18 I think) but a complete pissing of pesos.[/QUOTE]I understand that this did not work out like you wanted. But if I understand it right you did have them both at your place, everyone got naked, sex was had. They did not do everything you wanted, true. But. Just because it did not work out fully the way you wanted, and even in a sense what you paid for, you can really cause the situation to get worse by not paying the full 600 you agreed to. When it comes to paying that is a risk you probably should not take. Even if nothing happens and you end up kicking them out it is often, or I would say almost always, best to pay, and write it off to experience.
PS.. Others may disagree with that I say here... feel free. Just my opinion for minimizing chances of a bad scene.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2750638]I guess you get what you pay for? I thought facebook chicks were 150 to 200?[/QUOTE]I think these days they're trending towards 200-250 k. However, the price agreed upon ultimately depends on which head was handling the negotiations.
For those who don't know yet:
When a girl quotes a much higher price than expected, don't try to figure out how high to make your offer so she'll accept. Instead, come back with the price you want to pay. For example:
"400".
"Entiendo amor, pero siempre pago 150 mil. ".
I understand, but I always pay 150 thousand (it's vital to get that "mil" in the conversation so you don't end up with a girl demanding dollars). From there, you can agree to add the taxi. If she gets offended, or starts whining and complaining you've identified someone who isn't going to be good in bed. Next.
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[QUOTE=Zeos1;2750921]I understand that this did not work out like you wanted. But if I understand it right you did have them both at your place, everyone got naked, sex was had. They did not do everything you wanted, true. But. Just because it did not work out fully the way you wanted, and even in a sense what you paid for, you can really cause the situation to get worse by not paying the full 600 you agreed to. When it comes to paying that is a risk you probably should not take. Even if nothing happens and you end up kicking them out it is often, or I would say almost always, best to pay, and write it off to experience.
PS.. Others may disagree with that I say here... feel free. Just my opinion for minimizing chances of a bad scene.[/QUOTE]You are right. You might get in trouble for not paying the agreed price. There was the infamous case of the US secret service agents getting caught because one guy wouldn't pay the girl.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-scandal-colombian-woman-describes-night-of-carousing-with-agents/2012/05/04/gIQAcwyi1T_story.html[/URL]
Seems the Colombian police sided with the girl because I guess sex worker get some type of protection?
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[QUOTE=Marxh;2750765]So I'm interested in a trio, but seems tough to find. And I don't want to ask a girl for the reasons in the post. If anyone has any suggestions or direct me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. I'm subscribed so feel free to PM me.
Trying to make this the most memorable expression of Colombia!
TIA.[/QUOTE]It's not impossible.
1. Evaluate every girl after the session. Was she on time? Was she clean? Did she present herself well (looking like she showed up for a date instead of looking like she spent the last 6 hours cleaning house)? Was she responsive, sexually?
That last one is crucial. You want to start with a girl who enjoys having sex with you. Many of them will fake it. Learn to spot the difference.
2. See the girl a second time. Take your time with her. Ask how she feels about women. Most girls will do a trio, but they won't do a threesome. If she's interested, explain what you're looking for. It's helpful to have a video clip on your phone showing how you want things to go.
3. Gauge her interest. Is she interested in the chance for more money, or does she want the experience? If you think she is really interested, ask if she knows someone to join you.
If you do it right, minimal direction will be required and you'll be happy with the results. I highly recommend taking the girls to a place like Motel Ibiza. It's worth the added cost.
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[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2750850]Shit I would skip Fase II and La Isla, overpriced for not much value. You can always new / young girls at the El Centro 1's who look just as good but without the plastic / high cost.[/QUOTE]I agree they are overpriced, but disagree on skipping for a first timer. The strip clubs are both worth seeing in the same vein that so many guys think El Centro SW are worth seeing (which I personally don't). Casas, FB girls, and mileroticos are also worth a try until you find what best suits you.
I personally have found the Fase II and La Isla girls to be more attractive than El Centro (you suggest they're the same), but we obviously have different tase in women. I venture that the percentage of men that would actually find the Centro glue sniffing SW attractive is less than you think.
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[QUOTE=GrantGreen;2750900]That's definitely way more up my alley. I'm not into the plastic, Instagram look.
Which strip clubs in El Centro are worth checking out? The Medellin map has a bunch of places listed. I've seen people talk about Barra Ejecutiva and Conejitos. So I'll probably check those out. But I'm curious about a few others. Here's a few of the ones I'm curious about:
Hilton Grill.
Grill Occidental.
Taberna Victoria.
Grill Nueva Avenida.
Palm Beach.
Taberna Montijos.
Night Club Lejano Oriente.
Ovo Whiskerya.
Do these strip clubs have actual dancing, or are they basically just like the Casas? Are they worth hanging out in after you've finished with a chica? If it's a day where it's non-stop raining, would they be fun to hang out for a couple hours, or strictly get laid and leave?[/QUOTE]Whoa. Now that would be a memorable day checking out all of those. Not sure that would be advisable. Some are hard to find. And some you may wish you had not found. Barra Ejecutiva and Conejitos are fine, and a couple that are very close to Conejitos probably reasonably safe. But the rest I'm not sure.
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[QUOTE=GrantGreen;2750900]
Which strip clubs in El Centro are worth checking out?
Hilton Grill.
Grill Occidental.
Taberna Victoria.
Grill Nueva Avenida.
Palm Beach.
Taberna Montijos.
Night Club Lejano Oriente.
Ovo Whiskerya.
[/QUOTE]Been to the first 4, never been the final 4. Would be interested to check them out thogh if anyone wants an evening of adventure?
All are worth a visit IMO. All have real people and real girls. You never know what you will find and what experience you will have. For me, it is the real Colombia, not the plastic ambition of Poblado etc.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2750901]There is a caveat for 1 hour. One day Zona Rosa was full so we went to Botero Real. I don't speak Spanish so I told the girl to ask for 1 hour as we agreed and I also don't know if that is possible at this place because my friend had problem with them when he booked one hour. In the room, I knew what I paid was for 30 minutes so I had to renegotiate with the girl. I had to make sure she had the change and gave it to me before I handed over 50 K to her. And that makes an interesting experience. LOL.[/QUOTE]Zona Rosa in the past has been for a few hours at a time for whatever the price is. Are you saying that Botero Real is now only renting their rooms in 1 hour increments? And if the room was rented for 1 hour, why did you have to renegotiate with the girl if what you paid for was for only 30 minutes and then you could cut her loose.
Sorry I don't understand what your saying here, no different than some of my posts as well. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Zeos1;2750921]I understand that this did not work out like you wanted. But if I understand it right you did have them both at your place, everyone got naked, sex was had. They did not do everything you wanted, true. But. Just because it did not work out fully the way you wanted, and even in a sense what you paid for, you can really cause the situation to get worse by not paying the full 600 you agreed to. When it comes to paying that is a risk you probably should not take. Even if nothing happens and you end up kicking them out it is often, or I would say almost always, best to pay, and write it off to experience.
PS.. Others may disagree with that I say here... feel free. Just my opinion for minimizing chances of a bad scene.[/QUOTE]No. I'm going to agree with you. The dude got into an argument with prostitutes in a 3rd world country, in a city that's dangerous as hell, all over wanting to short them $22 after he actually got laid.
That's how you get robbed, beaten, it even killed. You don't think those chicas know some hitters? They might even do it for less than you paid her to pay with your dick. Just because you're disappointed or mad, don't let that get you into a dangerous situation. Sometimes you got to charge it to the game. Best thing you can do, is sleep it off. If you're still mad, go to Centro and find a 50 k chica to feel better.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;2750944]I venture that the percentage of men that would actually find the Centro glue sniffing SW attractive is less than you think.[/QUOTE]Are the SWers in Centro that fucked up? I was curious about how good they would look vs the casa or strip club chicas. I was definitely curious to check a few places in the map. But now I'm curious. Are they like American Street walkers? Because you pretty much only see heavy drug users doing that in the US. Anyone that's not completely desperate goes online (even then, you can find some trainwrecks). Hopefully it's not a bunch of scabby faced, petri dishes walking around. I love to party, but don't fuck around with anyone doing anything that may involve needles or lightbulbs (heroin / fent / meth / crack). Are there really a lot of chicas sniffing glue, or am I just exhausted after work and can't detect sarcasm / a joke?
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[QUOTE=JustTK;2750976]Been to the first 4, never been the final 4. Would be interested to check them out thogh if anyone wants an evening of adventure?
[/QUOTE]2 weeks from today, my ass will be there. Considering it's 10 pm, I'll probably be getting laid. But I've got 10 days there. And right now, it's looking like some pretty shitty weather. But I'm used to shitty, heavy rain and pop-up showers (my dumbass thought it was the end of the rainy season, not the deaf middle of it l. So I might be down for getting adventurous and checking things out, with it without company (though someone with better Spanish than me is always nice). But obviously somebody's been there, since they're on WT'69's map. But again, things and places change. Sometimes for the bad, but also sometimes for the good. It's worth the roll of the dice, because at worst, you'll probably get a good story out if it.
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Facebook Chica 3- Maria
After yesterday's experience I was very turned off to facebook chicas. I suppose just about any chica would have been better so I may have rose colored glasses as I share this report. Maria (I won't share her full name but as usual I am more than willing to share via PM for an active forum member) is smoking hot by my standards, about 5' 6', small waist, big (fake) tits, nice ass (big but not too big), 23 years old. She could be a model if she really applied herself. I think her facebook pictures have a bit of skin whitening on it but are otherwise reflective of her. She isn't a fitness girl but a couple of weeks in the gym and she could be. She only has a little bit of fat. I messaged her yesterday about coming at 6 PM today. I was a bit tired so I moved the time to 8 PM so I could take a nap, she was very friendly through the whole process. She arrived by 9 and we sat a chatted a bit. She works in a waitress in a club in Envigado during the weekends and makes 100 mil in salary plus tips per night so probably around 1200 mil per month including tips. She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny. She doesn't work anywhere else during the week (well, not including this) After the small talk about ourselves, our travels etc. , we went to the bedroom with some foreplay before I did DATY. She really seemed to enjoy my DATY (maybe she was faking it but it must have been really good faking). I joked that she should pay me to which we both had a laugh. She then gave me CBJ and we fucked in cowgirl, doggy and finally I came in missionary. Throughout she gave peaks but no full kisses. We sat and talked for a bit before she took shower. We then sat some more on the sofa and listed to some music and watched some videos on her facebook feed. Her taxi arrived and I paid her (250 k + 20 k taxi) for the two hours and kissed her goodbye.
Overall, it wasn't the most passionate service I had (Average of above average by Colombian standards but not on the level of Brazil in my experience) but it was pretty good and the girl was hot enough to work in gustos and try and charge 4-500 mil / hour. Outside of the lack of DFK, my only complaint was that she was on her phone more than I would have liked. She is a potential repeat for me which is why I am not publicly sharing her info.
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[QUOTE=Jimbox;2750934]You are right. You might get in trouble for not paying the agreed price. There was the infamous case of the US secret service agents getting caught because one guy wouldn't pay the girl.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-scandal-colombian-woman-describes-night-of-carousing-with-agents/2012/05/04/gIQAcwyi1T_story.html[/URL]
Seems the Colombian police sided with the girl because I guess sex worker get some type of protection?[/QUOTE]I also think they get some sort of protection.
Recently there was a story on a FB group where this gringo dated a lady and on the line of "oh I'm too handsome and she's different".
No financial agreement was made beforehand. After the session she asked for money (around 500 o 600 COP I think).
He didn't want to pay the bill and girl obsviusly went nut and when the cops showed up they got the guy to pay something like 300 COP.
Which given the situation he put himself it's not too bad. I had sympathy for both the police and the girl.
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[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2751004]She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny.[/QUOTE]That is obvious from reading this board. People that travel frequently often bring this up, but Americans are conditioned to do it and seems some even get offended if you advise them otherwise. It is just in my countrymen to give money away willy nilly.
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Welcome to MDE the city of passionless over priced sex. But Hi the weather is great!
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2751004]After yesterday's experience I was very turned off to facebook chicas. I suppose just about any chica would have been better so I may have rose colored glasses as I share this report. Maria (I won't share her full name but as usual I am more than willing to share via PM for an active forum member) is smoking hot by my standards, about 5' 6', small waist, big (fake) tits, nice ass (big but not too big), 23 years old. She could be a model if she really applied herself. I think her facebook pictures have a bit of skin whitening on it but are otherwise reflective of her. She isn't a fitness girl but a couple of weeks in the gym and she could be. She only has a little bit of fat. I messaged her yesterday about coming at 6 PM today. I was a bit tired so I moved the time to 8 PM so I could take a nap, she was very friendly through the whole process. She arrived by 9 and we sat a chatted a bit. She works in a waitress in a club in Envigado during the weekends and makes 100 mil in salary plus tips per night so probably around 1200 mil per month including tips. She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny. She doesn't work anywhere else during the week (well, not including this) After the small talk about ourselves, our travels etc. , we went to the bedroom with some foreplay before I did DATY. She really seemed to enjoy my DATY (maybe she was faking it but it must have been really good faking). I joked that she should pay me to which we both had a laugh. She then gave me CBJ and we fucked in cowgirl, doggy and finally I came in missionary. Throughout she gave peaks but no full kisses. We sat and talked for a bit before she took shower. We then sat some more on the sofa and listed to some music and watched some videos on her facebook feed. Her taxi arrived and I paid her (250 k + 20 k taxi) for the two hours and kissed her goodbye.
Overall, it wasn't the most passionate service I had (Average of above average by Colombian standards but not on the level of Brazil in my experience) but it was pretty good and the girl was hot enough to work in gustos and try and charge 4-500 mil / hour. Outside of the lack of DFK, my only complaint was that she was on her phone more than I would have liked. She is a potential repeat for me which is why I am not publicly sharing her info.[/QUOTE]