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The glue sniffer SWs are in minority, dunno, 5% or less, last time I've been. It's possible to snag an 'amateur' chica too, I remember one that got righteously indignated when I wanted to switch from missionary to doggy - - 'soy no puta! It made me confused for a moment. Could be true, her BJ skills were nonexistent and have not seen her in Centro since.
[QUOTE=Marxh;2751143]I just got a girl who wants an iPhone (of excellent quality), I assume the newest version. What does phone typically run in Colombia? I've seen a few threads talk about buying phones but not sure the type of phone or cost. Been a lot of girls saying they have no cell or their phone is broken. Haven't mentioned they want a phone, but I can read between the lines.
Want to see if that's a feasible and worthwhile exchange.[/QUOTE]Lots of girls want an iPhone of excellent quality. Are you intending to have a long term relationship with the girl? If not, why would you consider giving her something that expensive? For the same amount of money you could fuck her 10-20 times. If you give her the phone will she give it up to you for free 10-20 times?
[QUOTE=Marxh;2751143]I just got a girl who wants an iPhone (of excellent quality), I assume the newest version. What does phone typically run in Colombia? I've seen a few threads talk about buying phones but not sure the type of phone or cost. Been a lot of girls saying they have no cell or their phone is broken. Haven't mentioned they want a phone, but I can read between the lines.
Want to see if that's a feasible and worthwhile exchange.[/QUOTE]Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.
Recently concluded my third trip to Medellin. All around a positive trip. The difference for this trip was socializing with fellow ISG members. Definitely worth it. I will do the same and announce my travel dates in the month leading up to a trip.
Thanks to Alaska1986 and Shank. Two really good guys with insight to the city, the philosophy of the game, and good life pointers. We kept with our call signs, which I appreciated. It made me feel like Secret Agent Man, added to the mystic and charm of the trip, but also dealt with the very real nature of what we are doing and our lives back home. A nice thing about them was the lack of agenda. It was a come-as-you-are, make-it-if-you-can-make-it feel. Which was akin to, riding up to your friends house on your bike, knocking to see if he was done with dinner, and then tearing up the neighborhood, or not because he had homework or had to sit for dinner. It was refreshing to have my own agenda to live up to and do things as a group if the timing aligned.
Also, they were not afraid to buy a man a beer.
Other ISGs were arriving as I was leaving, so sorry to have missed.
The "Negative" Note: La Isla. As expected, the Island was the most expensive single event on my trip. I went through 600 mil in an hour.
Entrance was 50 mil.
Beer was 30 Mil.
A shot of tequila was 80 mil, for the girl.
Girl was 350 mil.
The ride out was pricey, and my driver offered me coke. Jajaja. I declined.
The ambiance is not the best. If you've seen a video of the place, yeah, it is just a big room. Your only means of privacy is due to the music being so loud. Otherwise, everyone can see everything. Who you talk to and vice versa. I guess I got there early (10:30 pm), so it was sparsely populated. There's nothing sadder than an empty strip club, IMO. It did allow me to size up the girls easier, but I expected to kinda get lost in the crowd.
I found a girl with medium length brown hair, blue dress, medium-small tits, and nice ass. The girl on the floor that I took up to the room was nice when on the floor, as she waited for me to run to the bathroom, and on the March up the stairs up to the room. In the room, boom< I was on the clock. We did the full 30 minutes, but her demeanor turned a little colder, as in it was just business. It was not nasty or anything like that, but a noticeable change from smiles smiles smiles, touch of my arm, giggle giggle, to ok, it's sex time and you got 30 minutes. She was compliant in terms of the positions, but it wasn't like I put her in the Guatemalan Face Hat position or anything like that. Mish, Doggy, and a mild variation of doggy.
Ok, but older face once the lights were normal. Nice, but slightly smaller tits (those dresses to deceive). Great ass. Her butt to my pelvis was a delight.
The sex rooms were clean.
Once we got back, I saw a couple that were cuter so I felt I rushed my decision.
Would I go back? Yes, but not all that often. It was nice to see girls done up in cocktail dresses. I would want to slow it down and work the room better next time. I am glad to have popped that cherry and satisfied the curiosity, so no real regrets.
The main "negative" was the sticker shock. In USD terms, as Alaska1986 said, "for $150, you had a better night than in the States. " True. True. Keeping it in perspective of both the US and Colombia, cheap strip club night (better than anything I experienced in the States and all the money I blew on grazing a girl's tit with a buck), but I did miss out on 4 to 6 regular girls.
[QUOTE=Jimbox;2751228]Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.[/QUOTE]Well buy her a used Rolls Royce while you are at it. Remember when smart phones were for people that needed them to do real business? And the only people that could afford them were people that were making money with them.
I remember having my Palm Treo out when airplane mode first hit the scene. The lady on the plane made me turn my phone all the way off because she did not understand airplane mode even existed.
Now everyone has or wants these expensive ass phones no matter how much money they are making, and they use only 2 types of apps on them. Look at any of these chicks' homescreen and see what is there. The shit is fucking empty because they only use it for 2 things.
If you want to spend $500 for an uneducated, unemployed chick to take pictures and send messages (maybe listen to music too) then you are what some would call a new fool. Shit used to be for mfs that could afford it. As for me, I am not buying a chick anything that she can not buy for herself. What is the fucking point of being a broke mf in the hood with an expensive ass phone? But of course we know that guys will do anything when that pussy is held on the end of a stick and it starts whispering to them.
[QUOTE=Jimbox;2751228]Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.[/QUOTE]She was very nice until we got to the "but you said you would give me anything". Which wasn't exactly true. She sounded like a high-end escort, most likely international escort. She was pushy and demanding. And ready to fly out to me.
Obviously I said no.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2751150]It's 7 K when I paid. That's how I know it was only 30 minutes so I had to renegotiate in the room to reduce rate for 30 minutes. It's the chick's mistake that she did not rent for 1 hour when I asked her to.
What I am saying is I don't know if 1 hour is common in this place or not. My friend paid for an hour but was only allowed 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]7 k was last year's price, it has since gone up to 8 k for 30 mins and its 16 k for an hour. It's not fucking rocket science to ask for an hour when paying for the room "quiero una hora por favor" versus "quiero un ratico" if you just want the half hour.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2751160]Take it all with a grain of salt, although with some guys maybe Valium instead of salt.
The most I've paid in Medellin for 1 girl was just under $100. She works internationally modeling (frequent trips to Europe), stayed for 3 hours and was extremely passionate throughout. I've spent more on a few threesomes.
Overall, outside of the casas and strip clubs most of the women I've had in Medellin have been extremely passionate. If someone can't find passionate women in Medellin I can think of a few possible reasons.
1. They are not picking the right girls.
2. They're unattractive by the girls standards.
3. They have personal hygiene issues.
4. They're not taking the time or making the effort connect with the girls.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your analysis. I'm not saying that Medellin is bad or too expensive, that's the other guy, and it is definitely in my top 5 destinations. It's just not my number one destination, personally.
In my case, I think the following:
1. My sample size is really low. I probably have had 1/100th of the number of experiences you have had, especially in Medellin. Plus I am probably too picky as far as girls' appearances go. I'm sure I missed out on many fantastic girls because of this, like the agency girl I called on this trip who I wouldn't have normally connected to on FB based off her actual appearance but who gave me fantastic GFE. I'm hoping if I continue, I'll be able to find some more.
2. Idk. It may also be that because I am relatively young, the girls judge my appearance more by novio standards rather than sugar daddy standards. Or maybe I'm just rationalizing my ugly ass.
3. Don't think so. I've never had a girl have a problem with this before. Or at least ever mention it.
4. Looking through your posts, I definitely don't make the level of effort you do. I would guess this is probably the biggest reason for the variety of experiences in Medellin. I feel like the girls in Colombia are rather shy and there is more effort needed to open them up to true GFE. My preference for Brazil stems from most Brazilian girls hardly being far from shy and being able to find GFE from casa girls and even some streetwalkers with little effort.
[QUOTE=Jimbox;2751228]Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.[/QUOTE]Actually, I'd double check that. I'm pretty sure the new ones are 20 to 30% more in Colombia due to import duties and VAT. A couple of my favoritas have the iPhone 13 and they had their sisters (who have US visas) purchase in the US because it was that much less. If you're buying a used one, the pricing may be similar to the US, just make sure it's not stolen as they will often be blocked by the carrier.
And DO NOT buy a girl a phone. Very idiotic in my opinion to drop $1000, or even $300 on a phone for 20 year old girl that will break it within a week, leave in a taxi, or have it stolen while she's high on tussi. Also note that it sets an expectation for future gifts of similar size. And $1000 can buy a whole lot of citas jajaja!! My two cents.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2751252]Well buy her a used Rolls Royce while you are at it. Remember when smart phones were for people that needed them to do real business? And the only people that could afford them were people that were making money with them.
I remember having my Palm Treo out when airplane mode first hit the scene. The lady on the plane made me turn my phone all the way off because she did not understand airplane mode even existed.
Now everyone has or wants these expensive ass phones no matter how much money they are making, and they use only 2 types of apps on them. Look at any of these chicks' homescreen and see what is there. The shit is fucking empty because they only use it for 2 things.
If you want to spend $500 for an uneducated, unemployed chick to take pictures and send messages (maybe listen to music too) then you are what some would call a new fool. Shit used to be for mfs that could afford it. As for me, I am not buying a chick anything that she can not buy for herself. What is the fucking point of being a broke mf in the hood with an expensive ass phone? But of course we know that guys will do anything when that pussy is held on the end of a stick and it starts whispering to them.[/QUOTE]Can anyone even try to articulate the "rationale" for buying an irresponsible 3rd world puta an Ifone? For what benefit? My guess, it will be stolen or pawned in less than 48 hrs, or probably more like 12 hrs, talk about labeling ones self a mark? Seriously WTF.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2751138]LOL. I'm also open to recommendations on better places to go. My go-to in Latin America is Brazil but flights there tend to be expensive and long. Plus the political situation at the moment makes me second guess going there. Feel free to PM me.[/QUOTE]I'm as big of a Brasil fan as you'll find. But you can't beat the convenience of Colombia flying from the US. Those are my two go-to countries. I don't think any other South American country is going to give you a better experience.
To get a lot of passion from the Paisas you have to work at it a bit more than you do in Brasil.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2751267]7 k was last year's price, it has since gone up to 8 k for 30 mins and its 16 k for an hour. It's not fucking rocket science to ask for an hour when paying for the room "quiero una hora por favor" versus "quiero un ratico" if you just want the half hour.[/QUOTE]I remember it was 7 K 7/2 this year. That is what I remember but that does not mean I am correct about the price.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2751286]Actually, I'd double check that. I'm pretty sure the new ones are 20 to 30% more in Colombia due to import duties and VAT. A couple of my favoritas have the iPhone 13 and they had their sisters (who have US visas) purchase in the US because it was that much less. If you're buying a used one, the pricing may be similar to the US, just make sure it's not stolen as they will often be blocked by the carrier.
And DO NOT buy a girl a phone. Very idiotic in my opinion to drop $1000, or even $300 on a phone for 20 year old girl that will break it within a week, leave in a taxi, or have it stolen while she's high on tussi. Also note that it sets an expectation for future gifts of similar size. And $1000 can buy a whole lot of citas jajaja!! My two cents.[/QUOTE]I knew right way it was a no as the thought of that exchange would result in losing out too much for just one girl. She's hot, but I know there are others. I wouldn't be coming to Colombia for a $1000. I can do that here and that's elite level escort. Of course I wouldn't know because I can't see myself paying that much for an escort.
I'm willing to take a shave and a hair cut on this one. The new sacalero row is the lawn on the near the north side entrance to the plaza across the street from the front of the Nutibara hotel. They sometimes mix among the other girls so you could cross paths with one unintentionally. Mostly the other girls shun them because they steal and they will accept very low sums to do any perverted thing we rats can come up with. It's a difficult combination to compete against. I try to be open minded but I actively avoid the sacaleros (aka princesas de pegante).
[QUOTE=Nounce;2751319]I remember it was 7 K 7/2 this year. That is what I remember but that does not mean I am correct about the price.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2751166]Sorry you lost some whiskers not liking Sacaleros as a street rat. LOL.
The quality of the Sacaleros has declined over the years. About seven years ago before all the Vennies showed up, they would hang alongside the Museum. And there where some very pretty ones, albeit all being very thin. I know some guys who were into skinny girls that would go with them and pretty much anything was on the menu with them being so spaced out. I went with one of them and the stench was overpowering, like a heavy smoker with nicotine oozing from their pores.
I don't recommend them to anyone unless your into basically fucking a zombie.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2751004]After yesterday's experience I was very turned off to facebook chicas. I suppose just about any chica would have been better so I may have rose colored glasses as I share this report. Maria (I won't share her full name but as usual I am more than willing to share via PM for an active forum member) is smoking hot by my standards, about 5' 6', small waist, big (fake) tits, nice ass (big but not too big), 23 years old. She could be a model if she really applied herself. I think her facebook pictures have a bit of skin whitening on it but are otherwise reflective of her. She isn't a fitness girl but a couple of weeks in the gym and she could be. She only has a little bit of fat. I messaged her yesterday about coming at 6 PM today. I was a bit tired so I moved the time to 8 PM so I could take a nap, she was very friendly through the whole process. She arrived by 9 and we sat a chatted a bit. She works in a waitress in a club in Envigado during the weekends and makes 100 mil in salary plus tips per night so probably around 1200 mil per month including tips. She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny. She doesn't work anywhere else during the week (well, not including this) After the small talk about ourselves, our travels etc. , we went to the bedroom with some foreplay before I did DATY. She really seemed to enjoy my DATY (maybe she was faking it but it must have been really good faking). I joked that she should pay me to which we both had a laugh. She then gave me CBJ and we fucked in cowgirl, doggy and finally I came in missionary. Throughout she gave peaks but no full kisses. We sat and talked for a bit before she took shower. We then sat some more on the sofa and listed to some music and watched some videos on her facebook feed. Her taxi arrived and I paid her (250 k + 20 k taxi) for the two hours and kissed her goodbye.
Overall, it wasn't the most passionate service I had (Average of above average by Colombian standards but not on the level of Brazil in my experience) but it was pretty good and the girl was hot enough to work in gustos and try and charge 4-500 mil / hour. Outside of the lack of DFK, my only complaint was that she was on her phone more than I would have liked. She is a potential repeat for me which is why I am not publicly sharing her info.[/QUOTE]Dude, this **** is worthless. A CBJ, forgetaboutit, a few peck kisses but no GFE, to hell with that shit, but being on the phone the ultimate kick in the nuts, when a girl is workin on my dime she aint going to be on the phone, tell her to put it away or leave. Terrible session, don't even think about repeating.